1/1.7 and 2/3 are distinct standard sensor sizes, so there should be
no rounding; it's either one sensor or the other. A 2/3 sensor has
34% more area than a 1/1.7 sensor, which at those small sizes is
significant enough to make the distinction between sensors important.
Cheers,
—M.
On 8/1/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
I
understand the preference to isolate your view. But in some situations
it is good to be aware of the surroundings.
When I am composing through the viewfinder, I am totally aware of my
surroundings. The camera may only be up at my eye for a
My opinion on the MX-1, viewfinders, etc. (as if it matters).
1. I agree the MX-1 is largely a PS clone in fancy dress. A shame
Pentax would use the MX moniker.
2. Having both a NEX-5 (no viewfinder) and a NEX-7 (EVF), the NEX-7
with viewfinder wins hands down. Having two very similar cameras
Me too. Did you see the split image focusing feature in the X100s?
http://www.petapixel.com/2013/01/07/a-hands-on-demo-of-fujifilms-new-split-image-manual-focusing-feature/#more-98771
That and the zippy AF has me in shut up and take my money mode already
The MX-1 looks lovely. Pricey for a
point and shoot but I
don't get the obsession with finders.
pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:54:28 +
From: Steve Cottrellco...@seeingeye.tv
To: pentax listPDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
Message-ID:20130107215428.1356334...@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
I have tried the K-01 and do not miss the finder at all.
Have you tried attaching something long and heavy like a DA* 50-135 to
a K-01 and hand-holding it?
I don't get the obsession with finders.
You likely will when
On 8/1/13, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.petapixel.com/2013/01/07/a-hands-on-demo-of-fujifilms-new-
split-image-manual-focusing-feature/#more-98771
That and the zippy AF has me in shut up and take my money mode already
I am literally gagging for it now.
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On 8/1/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
Cotty You confused a bit here. You said you would be interested in
option c mirrorless APC with optical finder then in later msg. you
indicate you have finder-less Fuji you love.??
The Fuji I love does have an optical viewfinder. I use the
On 8/1/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
I have tried the K-01 and do not miss the finder at all. Every review I
have read echos my experience.
Just thinking further on this for a moment.
If optical viewfinders had never existed, we wouldn't miss them. Then
along came a camera with
:46 -0500 From: Bruce Walker
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Subject: Re: Re: New PENTAX MX-1 Message-ID:
cajuu0cc_brde2h2nvtwca_tfgkmlg4tem28anc6gh4todnb...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM,
Don Guthrie shark50
Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 8/1/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
I have tried the K-01 and do not miss the finder at all. Every review I
have read echos my experience.
Just thinking further on this for a moment.
If optical viewfinders had never existed, we wouldn't miss them. Then
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
[...]
Amazing to me but that's the younger generation for you: they find an
optical viewfinder to be a colossal waste of space money.
wait until they get into their 40s and can't focus on the damn thing without
reading
On 1/8/2013 3:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 8/1/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
I have tried the K-01 and do not miss the finder at all. Every review I
have read echos my experience.
Just thinking further on this for a moment.
If optical viewfinders had
From: Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
[...]
Amazing to me but that's the younger generation for you: they find an
optical viewfinder to be a colossal waste of space money.
wait until they get into their 40s and can't focus on the damn thing
Picture clearer now. Understood no argument. Preference better word.
pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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co...@seeingeye.tv To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: New
PENTAX MX-1 Message-ID:
20130108195741.1918932
On 8/1/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
Picture clearer now. Understood no argument. Preference better word.
I prefer to agree with you ;-)
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the preference to isolate your view. But in some situations
it is good to be aware of the surroundings.
pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
Message: 8
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:34:57 -0500
From: John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: New PENTAX MX-1
Message-ID:50ec9101.3060
I tried to find the page again and can't. So I could well be wrong.
On 1/8/2013 5:43 PM, Miserere wrote:
P.J.,
DPR lists a 1/1.7 sensor in the MX-1 specs; where are you seeing it's
a 2/3 sensor? Would be nice though.
—M.
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On 7 January 2013 14:17, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:53 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
On 1/8/2013 5:56 PM, Miserere wrote:
On 7 January 2013 14:17, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:53 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
Miserere wrote:
Larry,
When I saw the news piece and the image of the camera on my phone my
heart skipped a beat. I though one of two things had happened:
1) Pentax had released a fixed-lens (43mm-e f/1.9) APS-C compact.
or
2) Pentax had FINALLY released an interchangeable-lens APS-C
On 8 January 2013 18:01, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
Miserere wrote:
Larry,
When I saw the news piece and the image of the camera on my phone my
heart skipped a beat. I though one of two things had happened:
1) Pentax had released a fixed-lens (43mm-e f/1.9) APS-C
on 2013-01-08 15:43 Miserere wrote
P.J.,
DPR lists a 1/1.7 sensor in the MX-1 specs; where are you seeing it's
a 2/3 sensor? Would be nice though.
1/1.7 = 2/3.4, so it's only slightly smaller than 2/3, perhaps someone just
rounded a bit?
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-Mx-1-hands-0n-preview-just-published
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Hmmm...now if Pentax evolves that in the same way Fuji did with the X
series (I just tested the XE-1)...
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
Except the MX-1 is a small-sensor camera, like the Panasonic LX-7 and
Olympus XZ-2.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Bong Manayon
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
Hmmm...now if Pentax evolves that in the same way Fuji
Why does this remind me of the forgettable I-10? Invoking the veneer of
the past without the substance. I suppose there's hope that a camera
that actually tries to capture the true spirit of the MX will be
released much as the Q tried to capture the actual essence of the actual
Auto 110.
On
Still no viewfinder.
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On 1/7/2013 12:24 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Still no viewfinder.
Yea, not even a provision for an accessory viewfinder. But then we're
not the target demographic for this camera. I think the target is people
who think the Olympus ZX-2 is just too complicated...
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Buy a Leica to get the full
On 7/1/13, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-
compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-Mx-1-hands-0n-preview-
just-published
Dario
Needs an optical viewfinder!!! Aaaargh
PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
Why does this remind me of the forgettable I-10? Invoking the veneer of
the past without the substance. I suppose there's hope that a camera
that actually tries to capture the true spirit of the MX will be
released much as the Q tried
That will be the MX-1s.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Steve Cottrell
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 7:21 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
On 7/1/13, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
On 7/1/13, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-
compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-Mx-1-hands-0n-preview-
just-published
Dario
I understand the K-01 has been the biggest failure in recent Pentax history
and I'm very glad a K-02 won't be.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 7:34 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
I thought that there would
List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
I understand the K-01 has been the biggest failure in recent Pentax history
and I'm very glad a K-02 won't be.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 7:34 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
I
On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:53 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-Mx-1-hands-0n-preview-just-published
Cue the wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth
Seems like a quickie marriage of Ricoh tech with Pentax retro
market-think... Not my cup of tea, sorry...
On 1/7/2013 4:53 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
After seeing the market segment for whom this camera is intended, I
have decided that if anyone ever calls me a photographic enthusiast
I will punch them in the nose (enthusiastically).
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On 1/7/2013 2:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:53 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-Mx-1-hands-0n-preview-just-published
Cue the
On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
After seeing the market segment for whom this camera is intended, I
have decided that if anyone ever calls me a photographic enthusiast
I will punch them in the nose (enthusiastically).
Amusing in one way, sad in another. It is easy for us,
Larry Colen wrote:
What they seem to be doing is a spastic attempt at emulating Steve Jobs, or
at least Apple, in releasing different and innovative products in the hopes
that one of them will catch on. If they release ten products, it doesn't
matter if nine of them are Lisas, if one of them
On 1/7/2013 2:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
After seeing the market segment for whom this camera is intended, I
have decided that if anyone ever calls me a photographic enthusiast
I will punch them in the nose (enthusiastically).
Amusing in one way,
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 2:23 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
Seems like a quickie marriage of Ricoh tech with Pentax retro
market-think... Not my cup of tea, sorry...
On 1/7/2013 4:53 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling
On 1/7/2013 12:24 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Still no viewfinder.
Yea, not even a provision for an accessory viewfinder. But then we're
not the target demographic for this camera. I think the target is
people who think the
more of
them, who else?
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: J.C. O'Connell
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:47 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: New PENTAX MX-1
Why are they wasting their efforts on stuff like this and the k01
when they could be developing a ff dslr
...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 2:23 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
Seems like a quickie marriage of Ricoh tech with Pentax retro
market-think... Not my cup of tea, sorry...
On 1/7/2013 4:53 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
http
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
How about:
a) potentially sell 500,000 PS cameras at $500
b) potentially sell 5000 FF DSLR's at $2000
Probably this kind of thing appeared in a PowerPoint deck during an
exec meeting. Exec's aren't the target demographic for the FF product
From: Bruce Walker
How about:
a) potentially sell 500,000 PS cameras at $500
b) potentially sell 5000 FF DSLR's at $2000
Probably this kind of thing appeared in a PowerPoint deck during an
exec meeting. Exec's aren't the target demographic for the FF product
either.
I'm afraid it's going to
On 7/1/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think that Pentax (for whatever definition of Pentax over the past
decade you want to use) understands that they will not survive as a me
too product. If Pentax were simply to produce another Canon Rebel,
nobody would have any reason to buy
On 7/1/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
What they seem to be doing is a spastic attempt at emulating Steve
Jobs, or at least Apple
Actually when Steve came back he got rid of the confusing array of
computers and laptops and slimmed everything down into these types:
iMac, PowerMac,
In actual fact, I'm really liking what Fuji are doing in their lineup at
the moment. They might not be doing it to the best of their ability just
yet, but that will come in time.
Sure it's not a Leica (and nor is it meant to be, nor to aspire to be)
but the X100 has benchmarked a fundamental
Looks good - I'll be tempted if the IQ is good too.
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Dario Bonazza
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: New PENTAX MX-1
http
Pretty! Boy, add a view finder to this camera, and I would seriously consider
one.
Cheers, Christine
On Jan 7, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Pentax-launches-MX-1-enthusiast-compact-12MP-28-112mm-F1-8-2-5-lens
, but it's interesting.
On 1/7/2013 10:15 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Except the MX-1 is a small-sensor camera, like the Panasonic LX-7 and
Olympus XZ-2.
Dario
-Messaggio originale- From: Bong Manayon
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New PENTAX MX-1
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