And the Sony A700 is there:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0709/07090601sonydslra700.asp
Dario
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:11 PM
Subject: Pentaxian.com
It's up!
Looks what I expected for Pentax's next DSLR. Somehow I expected more
from SONY, (and sooner).
Dario Bonazza wrote:
And the Sony A700 is there:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0709/07090601sonydslra700.asp
Dario
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From: Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Dario Bonazza wrote:
And the Sony A700 is there:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0709/07090601sonydslra700.asp
Dario
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Subject:
Colour me underwhelmed. Preliminary pricing looks to be $100 more than a
40D with less performance (other than in-body IS). I'm going through
DPreview's preview now.
-Adam
Dario Bonazza wrote:
And the Sony A700 is there:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0709/07090601sonydslra700.asp
Dario
Well, and new Alpha has weather sealing unlike 40D ;-)
On 2007-09-06, at 18:51, Adam Maas wrote:
Colour me underwhelmed. Preliminary pricing looks to be $100 more
than a
40D with less performance (other than in-body IS). I'm going through
DPreview's preview now.
Cheers,
Sylwek
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No, it doesn't. It's dust-sealed just like the 40D, not weather-sealed
like a K10D or D200/D300.
-Adam
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
Well, and new Alpha has weather sealing unlike 40D ;-)
On 2007-09-06, at 18:51, Adam Maas wrote:
Colour me underwhelmed. Preliminary pricing looks to be
On 9/3/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Speaking of babe magnets ...
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/well-hung-4740.jpg
Cotty, Bob W, Godfrey - Camden Lock 2006
Pentax *ist DS + DA21/3.2 Limited - ISO 400 @ f/4 @ 1/200
Oh sheesh!
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Behalf Of Cotty
Sent: 10 March 2007 09:03
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: New Sony
On 9/3/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Speaking of babe magnets ...
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/well
No way Ken, not a Z1P. I wouldn't call it a pretty camera but noway is it ugly.
I'd vote for A3000 or SFX, not sure.
We should make a poll: prettiest and ugliest Pentax camera :)
2007/3/9, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 3/08/07 6:43 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are not
It is the desire of most civilised societies to have the freedom to
express their views, and there is no fault here. What there is, is a
difference of cultural exchange. In America, it is part and parcel of
the culture to express a view even if that view does not necessarily
move the discussion
Looks a bit like the grotesque Mamiya lighthouse, not something I
would like to be seen in public with...
Bertil
It does appear to have a larger pentaprism, which means?
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Thibouille
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:03 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New Sony
No way Ken, not a Z1P. I wouldn't call it a pretty camera but noway is it
ugly.
I'd vote for A3000 or SFX, not sure.
We should make a poll: prettiest and ugliest Pentax camera :)
2007/3/9, K.Takeshita
.
The most beautiful lenses must be some of the M42 Takumar series, I vote for
the SMC 85mm 1.8!
greetings
Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Thibouille
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:03 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: New Sony
] On Behalf Of
Markus Maurer
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Prettiest/Ugliest Pentax Equipment (was RE: New Sony)
Hi Thibouille
I share your taste with the SFX series but to be fair, these ugly bodies
have served me very well over the last years. Maybe
In a message dated 3/9/2007 2:01:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is the desire of most civilized societies to have the freedom to
express their views, and there is no fault here. What there is, is a
difference of cultural exchange. In America, it is part and
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Sony
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:53:17 +
It is the desire of most civilised societies to have the freedom to
express their views, and there is no fault here. What
I don't remember you had a reaction that childish when the list
discussed the 3 mock-ups Pentax showed months ago for the 645D
design. Or were you ?
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in a
manner that suggests libel or slander, I'll have my attorney contact
you to resolve that.
G
Begin forwarded message:
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: March 8, 2007 9:14:07 PM PST
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Sony
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Who are you directing your question towards?
If me, the discussion about the Pentax 645D mock-up's design was
specifically a discussion of its ergonomics and styling, since there
was very little data available as to their internals. That's why
Pentax offered a public view of the mock-ups.
On 3/09/07 1:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Photography is important to me, it's not just a passing fancy that I
dally in to pass the time. It sounds like it is just that to you.
I'll say what I think about something that's important to me.
Otherwise, what waste my time on
On 3/09/07 1:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's all nothing more than a big load of condescending bullshit.
You're being pissy and picking a fight because you think I meant to
offend your delicate sensibilities. I didn't, get over it. My comment
was not directed at you
I surf certain limited number of camera site in Japan and when I
encounter something which might be of interest to PDMLers, I try to
share them.
Ken, this is much appreciated. You are often our best source of
information. Thanks for doing it.
Joe
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Timid and sensitive my ass. Perhaps you don't understand the meanings
of the words Libel and Slander. You might want to look them up.
You can take your condescension and bullshit with you into the trash
bucket, Ken. Now go play nicey-nicey with your so-called friends... I
wouldn't want to
I surf certain limited number of camera site in Japan and when I
encounter something which might be of interest to PDMLers, I try to
share them.
Ken has now unsubbed from the list. He participates in Japanese
discussion fora and has taken the time to translate long documents for
us. He has been
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:24:38AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
You can take your condescension and bullshit with you into the trash
bucket, Ken.
And the rest of us would be happier if you took your own advice.
Take your childish playground tantrums to email, if you must.
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Sony
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:31:56 -0700
I surf certain limited number of camera site in Japan and when I
encounter something which might be of interest to PDMLers, I try to
share them.
Ken has now unsubbed from the list. He participates in Japanese
In a message dated 3/9/2007 11:59:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree. Really no one likes to be told what they can/cannot talk about on
an unmoderated list.
Ken's discussion of the aesthetics of the Sony mockup were not off topic,
inappropriate, or offensive.
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Subject: Re: New Sony
Timid and sensitive my ass. Perhaps you don't understand the meanings
of the words Libel and Slander. You might want to look them up.
Godders, take a pill, you are starting to sound like a 4 year old
discussion of the aesthetics of the Sony mockup were not off
topic,
inappropriate, or offensive.
Tom C.
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Sony
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:31:56 -0700
I surf
On 9/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
You're not just a jokester. Well,
you're mainly a jokester, but not just.
Why Marnie, I want to cry. Will you marry me?
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On 9/3/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Shut your big trap!
LOL
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Which is exactly the same situation the two Sony mockups are in currently.
-Adam
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Who are you directing your question towards?
If me, the discussion about the Pentax 645D mock-up's design was
specifically a discussion of its ergonomics and styling, since there
On 9/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
Wait a minute, hmmph. Since you're already taken, that's not much of an
offer.
Yeah but it's very big of me.
(say it fast) ;-)))
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In a message dated 3/9/2007 12:58:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why Marnie, I want to cry. Will you marry me?
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Cotty
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Wait a minute, hmmph. Since you're already taken, that's not much of an
offer.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why Marnie, I want to cry. Will you marry me?
Wait a minute, hmmph. Since you're already taken, that's not
much of an offer.
He's Cotty. It wouldn't be much of an offer if he wasn't taken ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Sony
Wait a minute, hmmph. Since you're already taken, that's not much of an
offer.
Do you really think it is much of an offer under any circumstances?
William Robb
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On 9/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
He's Cotty. It wouldn't be much of an offer if he wasn't taken ;-)
Oh come on, you know very well I'm 6' 5 of steaming testosterone.
And wearing my favourite Klingon T shirt.
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He's Cotty. It wouldn't be much of an offer if he wasn't taken ;-)
Oh come on, you know very well I'm 6' 5 of steaming testosterone.
And wearing my favourite Klingon T shirt.
must be what you makes you into such a babe magnet.
Bob
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Cotty wrote:
On 9/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
He's Cotty. It wouldn't be much of an offer if he wasn't taken ;-)
Oh come on, you know very well I'm 6' 5 of steaming testosterone.
I was right with you till you got to the last word of that sentence...
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On 9/3/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
must be what you makes you into such a babe magnet.
My kind of babes have prominent ridgebones on their skulls and relieve
you of flesh when rutting.
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Sony
On 9/3/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
must be what you makes you into such a babe magnet.
My kind of babes have prominent ridgebones on their skulls and relieve
you of flesh when rutting.
You'd
Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 9/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
He's Cotty. It wouldn't be much of an offer if he wasn't taken ;-)
Oh come on, you know very well I'm 6' 5 of steaming testosterone.
I was right with you till you got to the last word of that
I'd think Cotty would say...
On the contrary, it's quite bigamy.
(Had cogitate a while on how to make that work).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/9/2007 12:58:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why Marnie, I want to cry. Will you marry me?
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I beg to differ, Adam, but Sony is showing two prototypes. They are
of two new models, different models, not three mockups of one future
model. And as far as I can tell from reading the various blurbs on
them, they are not soliciting design/styling information from people,
just showing
On Mar 9, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Bob W wrote:
He's Cotty. It wouldn't be much of an offer if he wasn't taken ;-)
Oh come on, you know very well I'm 6' 5 of steaming testosterone.
And wearing my favourite Klingon T shirt.
must be what you makes you into such a babe magnet.
Speaking of babe
In a message dated 3/9/2007 5:04:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Speaking of babe magnets ...
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/well-hung-4740.jpg
Cotty, Bob W, Godfrey - Camden Lock 2006
Pentax *ist DS + DA21/3.2 Limited - ISO 400 @ f/4 @ 1/200
Godfrey
- Original Message -
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Subject: Re: New Sony
Speaking of babe magnets ...
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/well-hung-4740.jpg
HAR!!
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From:
Godfrey DiGiorgi
Speaking of babe magnets ...
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/well-hung-4740.jpg
Cotty, Bob W, Godfrey - Camden Lock 2006
Pentax *ist DS + DA21/3.2 Limited - ISO 400 @ f/4 @ 1/200
Yeah, I can see where you're having to wrap the excess around your
waistlines. ;-D
Maturity?
Are we talking about the same PDML?
Cheers,
Dave ;-)
On 3/10/07, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The virtue of this list has been the maturity and the decency of the people
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On 3/10/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 9/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
He's Cotty. It wouldn't be much of an offer if he wasn't taken ;-)
Oh come on, you know very well I'm 6' 5 of steaming testosterone.
I was right with you till you got to
So, what do you think? Does this look real, or something to keep the
current market? :-)
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pma-07-breaking-sony-alpha-flagsh
ip-first-pics-242663.php
http://tinyurl.com/yoag7u
And
I could mean anything, more empty space, more electronics, larger sensor
therefore larger prism to cover it. Who knows.
Ken Takeshita wrote:
On 3/8/07, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pma-07-breaking-sony-alpha-flagsh
On 3/8/07, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pma-07-breaking-sony-alpha-flagsh
ip-first-pics-242663.php
http://tinyurl.com/yoag7u
It does appear to have a larger pentaprism, which means?
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On 3/08/07 4:27 PM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could mean anything, more empty space, more electronics, larger sensor
therefore larger prism to cover it. Who knows.
True, and I have no interest in Sony DSLR anyway.
But as a speculation game :-), they might come up with a larger
yeah, looks real. Ugly as sin, but real. Looks like we're getting the 7D
replacement and something akin to a Maxxum 9D.
Gawd is that prism ugly though, looks like it belongs on a Praktica.
-Adam
K.Takeshita wrote:
So, what do you think? Does this look real, or something to keep the
On 3/08/07 5:00 PM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gawd is that prism ugly though, looks like it belongs on a Praktica.
Well, that's one of the reasons why I think it's just a mockup. It's Sony's
idea of flagship pentaprism :-).
Sony CFO recently stated that they have a couple of new
Very ugly. Something like a Lada car.
2007/3/8, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So, what do you think? Does this look real, or something to keep the
current market? :-)
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pma-07-breaking-sony-alpha-flagsh
ip-first-pics-242663.php
On 3/08/07 5:16 PM, Thibouille, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very ugly. Something like a Lada car.
What are they thinking! It looks more like my old ME's (1970's) pentaprism
area. If this is Sony's idea of what their DSLR flagship should look like,
well, what can I say.
Ken
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Personally i thought it looked quite manly... reminiscent of a 6 x 7.
Tom C.
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Sony
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:24:43 -0500
On 3/08/07 5:00 PM, Adam
On Mar 8, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Tom C wrote:
Personally i thought it looked quite manly... reminiscent of a 6 x 7.
It looks like a camera.
What da heck do I care what it looks like? I want to know what it
sees ...
Does it work well? how much will it sell for? what sensor is in it?
are what are
K.Takeshita wrote:
However, these pics which they call a flagship look awfully like a mockup.
Especially since the lens is stopped down while mounted... Shouldn't it
be wide open? But, damn it's ugly... :-)
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On 3/08/07 6:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What da heck do I care what it looks like? I want to know what it
sees ...
Does it work well? how much will it sell for? what sensor is in it?
are what are important to me.
Godfrey, here you go again. You are not the only one
On 3/08/07 6:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does it work well? how much will it sell for? what sensor is in it?
are what are important to me.
Those too are being discussed everywhere now. I have my own speculations,
and it will start soon :-).
But when it starts, please do
On 3/08/07 6:43 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are not the only one who thinks so, of course. Why do you think others
won't think that way? What's wrong in chatting about the shape or anything
else.
BTW, the ugliest camera I encountered so far (at the time) was PZ-1p but
it
On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:43 PM, K.Takeshita wrote:
On 3/08/07 6:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What da heck do I care what it looks like? I want to know what it
sees ...
Does it work well? how much will it sell for? what sensor is in it?
are what are important to me.
On 3/08/07 7:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean I cannot voice my opinion that I don't give a rat's ding-
dong what it looks like? And you can voice your opinion that it is ugly?
I do not think this is the point. And I was just joking on Sony's mockup.
It is not what
On Mar 8, 2007, at 17:43, K.Takeshita wrote:
On 3/08/07 6:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What da heck do I care what it looks like? I want to know what it
sees ...
Does it work well? how much will it sell for? what sensor is in it?
are what are important to me.
Godfrey,
On Mar 8, 2007, at 4:52 PM, K.Takeshita wrote:
You mean I cannot voice my opinion that I don't give a rat's ding-
dong what it looks like? And you can voice your opinion that it is
ugly?
I do not think this is the point. And I was just joking on Sony's
mockup.
It is not what you or
At 12:13 PM 9/03/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
What's in it? how does it perform? how much will it cost? what is the
quality of the lenses available for it? ... These are questions I'm
interested in the answers to.
More importantly, does it take Pentax lenses?
If not, I don't give a flying frog
On 3/08/07 10:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then what *IS* the point, Ken? You want me to relax and yet you
continue to insinuate that there is something wrong with my voicing
my opinion. If you're accusing me of something, it would be nice to
know right up front what it
On 3/08/07 10:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't give a damn what Sony's new pro DSLR looks like. It looks
like a camera to me. A Pentax 645 looks like an ungainly box with a
pipe on the front and a handle. A Hasselblad is another fugly box
with a pipe stuck on it. The
Not a particularly illuminating article, though. I was hoping for
something more technical.
Godfrey
On Mar 22, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Steve Desjardins wrote:
FYI: There is an interesting article on how the new Sony works (the
one
with the always on APS Sensor) in the most recent issue
FYI: There is an interesting article on how the new Sony works (the one
with the always on APS Sensor) in the most recent issue of Scientific
American. It's near the end of the magazine in one of the Tech
sections.
FYI: There is an interesting article on how the new Sony works (the one
with the always on APS Sensor) in the most recent issue of Scientific
American. It's near the end of the magazine in one of the Tech
sections.
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