Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Igor Roshchin Sorry if I missed somebody mentioning this, I hope it might be useful to some people, - in relation to the HDD configurations: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/system_configuration_recommendations Igor Thanks. I dug down far enough in the comments

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:49 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I installed Lightroom on my laptop, and it went off on a tear trying to import 20,000 plus photos into a catalog, which kept the machine from being usable for at least a day. Importing 20,000 image files at once into

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-12 Thread AlunFoto
Underpaid N. Overpentaxed wrote: They're there; as usual it is just a matter of reducing your footprint to match your environment, except this time literally. Go for high heels. They give smaller prints for the same foot. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com --

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-12 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sorry if I missed somebody mentioning this, I hope it might be useful to some people, - in relation to the HDD configurations: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/system_configuration_recommendations Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-10 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2012-01-09 9:32, Underpaid N. Overpentaxed wrote: They're there; as usual it is just a matter of reducing your footprint to match your environment, except this time literally. Ok, Ecke, point me towards the oracle. Where does one go to find tropical islands for sale

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-10 11:37, John Sessoms wrote: I believe you contact Dr. Clement Okon c/o Central Bank of Nigeria. He already owes me. Maybe I can convince him just to send the deed to a tropical island instead of the fifty-seven million he says he has for me. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) --

RE: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-10 Thread Bob W
I believe you contact Dr. Clement Okon c/o Central Bank of Nigeria. He already owes me. Maybe I can convince him just to send the deed to a tropical island instead of the fifty-seven million he says he has for me. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) The money is in there, but your

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-09 1:38, David Mann wrote: On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Don't get me wrong! I'd build a dual quad-core (or six-core) setup with 64GB of RAM and a pair of nVidia 580 video boards in a heartbeat, if I had that much money lying around doing nothing. :-) If I

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-09 Thread Underpaid N. Overpentaxed
They're there; as usual it is just a matter of reducing your footprint to match your environment, except this time literally. 2012/1/9 Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com: If I had that much money lying around I'd buy a tropical island.  But each to his own... I would, too, if I could

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-09 Thread Gasha
Power supply maximum efficiency and optimal efficiency are two different things. Most are rated as 85%+. However, efficiency curve is best around 40-60% load. In some cases, that means 850W PSU is overkill, especially, if real load will be maximum around 300W. We tested lot of PCs and

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-09 9:32, Underpaid N. Overpentaxed wrote: They're there; as usual it is just a matter of reducing your footprint to match your environment, except this time literally. Ok, Ecke, point me towards the oracle. Where does one go to find tropical islands for sale for US$ 5k and less?

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Ok, Ecke, point me towards the oracle.  Where does one go to find tropical islands for sale for US$ 5k and less?  I've got cash, I'm a motivated buyer. A few more years of global warming and you'll find some

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-09 22:37, Matthew Hunt wrote: A few more years of global warming and you'll find some motivated sellers... A depreciating asset is one thing, one going underwater is another. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 January 2012 05:08, Gasha cir...@konts.lv wrote: Power supply maximum efficiency and optimal efficiency are two different things. Most are rated as 85%+. However, efficiency curve is best around 40-60% load. In some cases, that means 850W PSU is overkill, especially, if real load

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Rick Womer
- Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing (on Macs, Aperture _loves_ the GPU, though Lightroom ignores

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread AlunFoto
I did some research a month ago. Here's what I would have chosen then, if I had the money: Box: Xigmatek Elysium Big Tower Black. Reason: Nice and roomy. PSU: Corsair AX 1200W PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Gold, Modular, 6x 6+2-pin PCIe, 16x SATA Reason: Modular and with lots of SATA contacts. You

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-07 22:07, Larry Colen wrote: One thing that causes me pause, though it would also apply to a desktop mac, is the displays. A while back, someone observed that up until HDTV the performance and resolution of displays were constantly improving. Since HDTV, it's been damn near

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread John Sessoms
Approximate: The stuff I already have - Case $60 650W Power supply $100 1.5TB SATA HDD $80 (storage drive) 250GB SATA HDD ??? (boot drive) It's from my laptop. I replaced it with a 500GB drive that I think cost me around $100 at the time. Stuff I still have to buy - Mainboard, CPU Memory

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-08 9:25, AlunFoto wrote: Right now, at NewEgg.com Box: Xigmatek Elysium Big Tower Black. US$ 219.99 PSU: Corsair AX 1200W PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Gold, Modular US$ 279.99 Mobo: ASUS P9X79 Deluxe, Socket-2011 US$ 279.99 CPU: Intel® Core i7-3930K Processor

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Matthew Hunt My current (planned) configuration is a Gigabyte mainboard with Intel i7-960 and 32GB ram (maxed out). You're buying new parts? I'm happy with my i7-930 that I built a year and a half ago, but I don't see any sense in investing in Socket 1366 parts at this time. It's at

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: ... The main advantage this has over the Mac is I can build my own PC. I semi-know what I'm doing. .. A new 27 iMac i5 quad core with 8G RAM and 1T drive, everything else all put together, is $1850 or so before tax. Buy

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Rick Womer From: steve harley (on Macs, Aperture _loves_ the GPU, though Lightroom ignores it),? Now that is weird. ?Why would Adobe ignore so much processing power? I also wonder if it's true. ?When we were in Oxford in 2009 I did all my photo processing on a

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 12:32 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Matthew Hunt My current (planned) configuration is a Gigabyte mainboard with Intel i7-960 and 32GB ram (maxed out). You're buying new parts? I'm happy with my i7-930 that I built a year and a half ago, but I

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: ... The main advantage this has over the Mac is I can build my own PC. I semi-know what I'm doing. .. A new 27 iMac i5 quad core with 8G RAM and 1T drive, everything else all put together, is

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:37 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Haven't Apple Adobe previously had harsh words for one another with regards to whether certain Adobe products would be permitted to run on Apple products? The only bone of contention in recent times has been the

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Depends on what you enjoy how much satisfaction you get out of doing it. Sure, I could get almost the same performance from that iMac while spending just a little more money ... BUT I wouldn't enjoy putting it

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread AlunFoto
Doug Franklin wrote: So, that's US$2,600, no hard drives. You can drop down to the quad core CPU (save $300 on the CPU and probably $100 more on the mobo), change the 256GB system drive for a duplicate of the 60GB drive (save $150), go with an 850W power supply (save $150) which is still

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-08 13:24, AlunFoto wrote: A bit unfair to say no hard drives, I think, but I see your point. Sorry, I just meant that didn't include the cost of any real hard drive capacity, since you're bringing over drive you already have. Reason I wanted to go with a larger PSU is that I

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread mike wilson
On 08/01/2012 00:28, John Sessoms wrote: I'm planning a new computer to dedicate for photo audio editing. I've got the money saved and am just finalizing the necessary components before I buy. I already have some of the components on hand; the case power supply (650W), and a couple of hard

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread steve harley
on 2012-01-08 07:10 Rick Womer wrote - Original Message - From: steve harley (on Macs, Aperture _loves_ the GPU, though Lightroom ignores it), Now that is weird. Why would Adobe ignore so much processing power? from what i understand (i can't dredge up a source offhand) it's

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread steve harley
on 2012-01-07 20:19 Rick Womer wrote Larry, For photo editing I bought a Mac Mini with 8GB RAM, a Dell 24 inch monitor, and a 1TB firewire 800 external hard drive for under $1K. the Minis are great; they are extremely quiet and low power; the base model has somewhat wimpy integrated

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread steve harley
on 2012-01-08 11:17 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Lightroom does not use the GPU, runs beautifully on Mac OS X. It was originally developed on Mac OS X too. in case it's not clear, i've not intended to say Lightroom is _slow_ on Mac OS X; i've never used LR hard, though i've seen some interesting

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Depends on what you enjoy how much satisfaction you get out of doing it. Sure, I could get almost the same performance from that iMac while spending just a little more money ... BUT I wouldn't

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2012-01-08 13:24, AlunFoto wrote: A bit unfair to say no hard drives, I think, but I see your point. Sorry, I just meant that didn't include the cost of any real hard drive capacity, since you're bringing over drive you already have. Reason I wanted to go with a

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-01-08 20:31, John Sessoms wrote: I don't think of it as money lying around doing nothing; more like I've been saving up a little bit at a time for almost a year now so I won't have to put any of it on a credit card. Know what you mean, but I'm in a different position. I haven't been

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson On 08/01/2012 00:28, John Sessoms wrote: I'm planning a new computer to dedicate for photo audio editing. I've got the money saved and am just finalizing the necessary components before I buy. I already have some of the components on hand; the case power supply (650W), and

Re: Semi-OT - building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-08 Thread David Mann
On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Don't get me wrong! I'd build a dual quad-core (or six-core) setup with 64GB of RAM and a pair of nVidia 580 video boards in a heartbeat, if I had that much money lying around doing nothing. :-) If I had that much money lying around I'd buy

Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-07 Thread John Sessoms
I'm planning a new computer to dedicate for photo audio editing. I've got the money saved and am just finalizing the necessary components before I buy. I already have some of the components on hand; the case power supply (650W), and a couple of hard drives I can use at least temporarily.

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-07 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:28 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: My current (planned) configuration is a Gigabyte mainboard with Intel i7-960 and 32GB ram (maxed out). You're buying new parts? I'm happy with my i7-930 that I built a year and a half ago, but I don't see any sense in

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-07 Thread Larry Colen
Interesting post. I've been noticing lately that Lightroom doesn't run as quickly as I'd like on my three year old iMac, and that a friend's new $600 laptop specs out noticeably higher than the iMac (modulo display). I've also spent the past several years constantly running up against

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-07 Thread Rick Womer
: Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing Interesting post.  I've been noticing lately that Lightroom doesn't run as quickly as I'd like on my three year old iMac, and that a friend's new $600 laptop specs out noticeably higher

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-07 Thread steve harley
on 2012-01-07 20:07 Larry Colen wrote Interesting post. I've been noticing lately that Lightroom doesn't run as quickly as I'd like on my three year old iMac, and that a friend's new $600 laptop specs out noticeably higher than the iMac (modulo display). I've also spent the past several years

Re: Semi-OT: building a dedicated computer for photo editing

2012-01-07 Thread steve harley
on 2012-01-07 16:28 John Sessoms wrote 2. But I am considering a SSD for the scratch disk. Is 64GB large enough? That seems to be the current price point I'm comfortable with. Any brand recommendations? as for SSDs, the Sandforce-based models are among the best currently (although a new