On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:57:34 -, Digital Image Studio
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On 17/12/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh God, another one. When you have used your camera for a couple of
months, and fully understood how it works, then please report your
problems. As it is,
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! cried Chicken Little.
or so goes the children's tale.
I got tired of listening to all these 'nervious nellies'.
I got tired of looking at movies of shaking sensors.
I've got the sensor cleaner turned off, so I don't feel any shaking,
or more
Peter,
No personal attacks meant by my post.
Watching the sensor move was illustrative.
But I don't thnk it proved anything.
My confidence in Shake Reduction was undermined by all this.
I couldn't feel the camera DOING anything.
That's why I did the test and made the side by side post.
I can't
really, in a good way.
- Peter
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From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Shake Reduction Doesn't Work...
Peter,
No personal attacks meant by my post.
Watching the sensor
I've never been able to feel SR working (except when doing the dust
removal routine), but on long exposures I can sometimes hear it. I'm
not surprised that you can't feel it given the SR systems lack of
whirring/vibrating motors.
I've taken some nice hand held shots with the FA 77 Ltd FA 100
On 12/16/06 6:03 AM, Peter Loveday, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree it can (and does) do amazing things; my query was more whether mine
was working reliably. I was simpy trying to determine if my camera may have
a fault or not, I was not trying to attack the Pentax SR implementaion, or
Bob -
My opinion is that if it's working, you shouldn't be able to feel it.
If you can feel it, it will be inducing it's own blur.
If the sensor is counteracting your movement I would think it's motion
would be imperceptible.
My introduction to Pentax SR was with the A10 point and shoot. If
- Original Message -
From: Peter Loveday Subject: Re: Shake Reduction Doesn't Work...
Your shot doesn't show me that my K10D doesn't have a fault; I can, in
general, come to a similar result as you have... but I'm not always
convinced it is working reliably.
I find it easy
Thanks George,
I've come to similar conclusions.
The movement of the sensor has to be only fractions of a 1/1000th of an inch.
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/16/06, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob -
My opinion is that if it's working, you shouldn't be able to feel it.
If you can feel it, it
David Savage wrote:
I've never been able to feel SR working (except when doing the dust
removal routine), but on long exposures I can sometimes hear it. I'm
not surprised that you can't feel it given the SR systems lack of
whirring/vibrating motors.
Here's a similar test:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:28:02 -0500, Mark Cassino wrote:
Here's a similar test:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/sr_comp.jpg
I have a few SR related test-shots in my gallery too,
nothing fancy, see EXIF info below images:
1/6 sec with A* 200mm macro
1/40 sec with Sigma
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! cried Chicken Little.
or so goes the children's tale.
I got tired of listening to all these 'nervious nellies'.
I got tired of looking at movies of shaking sensors.
I've got the sensor cleaner turned off, so I don't feel any shaking,
or more
Rectification can be painful.
Paul
On Dec 16, 2006, at 6:24 PM, J and K Messervy wrote:
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! cried Chicken Little.
or so goes the children's tale.
I got tired of listening to all these 'nervious nellies'.
I got tired of looking at movies of shaking
Oh God, another one. When you have used your camera for a couple of
months, and fully understood how it works, then please report your
problems. As it is, most problems reported so far have been by people who
were doing something wrong.
John
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:24:31 -, J and K
On 17/12/06, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh God, another one. When you have used your camera for a couple of
months, and fully understood how it works, then please report your
problems. As it is, most problems reported so far have been by people who
were doing something wrong.
It
Jan van Wijk wrote:
I have a few SR related test-shots in my gallery too,
nothing fancy, see EXIF info below images:
I haven't done any side by side comparisons, but I'm finding that SR
helps out down to around 1/6 to 1/4 second, but on shots longer than
that, while it may be helping, it
James,
My apologies.
I hope your camera isn't broken, and you're just mis-interpreting your results.
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/16/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! cried Chicken Little.
or so goes the children's tale.
I got tired of
I wouldn't know.
:)
James
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Shake Reduction Doesn't Work...
Rectification can be painful.
Paul
On Dec 16, 2006, at 6:24 PM, J
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Shake Reduction Doesn't Work...
James,
My apologies.
I hope your camera isn't broken, and you're just mis-interpreting your
results.
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/16/06, J and K
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! cried Chicken Little.
or so goes the children's tale.
I got tired of listening to all these 'nervious nellies'.
I got tired of looking at movies of shaking sensors.
I've got the sensor cleaner turned off, so I don't feel any shaking,
or more specifically
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