Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-12 Thread Gary Richmond
Edwina, List, This is in response to your message to the List today as well as your addendum to that message. For now I mainly have just a few questions: You are no doubt aware of Peirce's insistence on a rigorous ethics of terminology. Are you suggesting that he is incorrect in his insistence th

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-12 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, To begin, I'll quote a highly respected authority about arguments from authority. The following passage about authority comes from Wikiquote, a source that is widely considered an authoritative source of information: "Appeal to an authority which depends on human reason is the weakest kin

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Panel on Semiotic Exploration of Ecology at the 2024 Warsaw IASS-AIS World Congress

2024-04-12 Thread Gary Richmond
Dear Claudio, This is exciting news indeed, and in an area of semiotics which I know holds considerable interest to at least several members of the Peirce-L forum including me. Thank you for all the excellent work you have done and continue to do in the Peircean semiotics -- including his three c

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-12 Thread John F Sowa
Robert, Jon, List, Thanks for the note. There is nothing controversial about it, and I agree with Jon's comments. But I would note that Peirce's later shift to semes, phemes, and delomes enabled him to simplify, some of the issues, and generalize others. For example, the idea of hypoicons se

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-12 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: Thanks for the reminder about this brief paper, which we discussed on the List back in November 2021. As I said at that time, it is based on Peirce's 1903 taxonomy with three trichotomies and ten sign classes, not his 1906-1908 taxonomies with ten trichotomies and 66 sign classes; an

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-12 Thread Edwina Taborsky
List As an addendum - I wonder if this tortured focus on ‘ which term is the correct one’ has shades of nominalism in it…ie, that focus on the particular, the individual, [ ie the exact term] and an difference to ‘what is real’. [ ie the meaning and function]. Edwina > On Apr 12, 2024, at 9:

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-12 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Robert- I agree with you about examining how the ‘relations of embodiment’ of the triadic sign actually function - but this recent debate - and it’s a debate not a discussion’[ i.e., it’s focused on Who Wins ]- rejects a more basic requirement of analysis; namely - what is the operative function

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-12 Thread robert marty
List, I contribute to the debate with this note that I posted on Academia.edu a few years ago ... at my peril ... I have not yet looked at tone/mark, but the same methodology should make it possible to conclude that each of the six types of token involves a tone/mark of a particular kind. https://w