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}Jon - even a Dicent Indexical Sinsign functions in a triad - that
infamous weathervane...which is an interaction between two subjects.
And for dyadic actions to take place, the two agents in brute
interaction
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}List - 200 in one week? That's about 20 per day! I admit I wasn't
aware of that many.
What seems to happen is that list members are involved in only a few
but not all discussions. With most topics, there can be a
173. But fallibilism cannot be appreciated in anything like its true
significancy until evolution has been considered. This is what the world
has been most thinking of for the last forty years -- though old enough is
the general idea itself. Aristotle's philosophy, that dominated the world
for so
Peircers,
I also have to unsubscribe periodically, as I don't have time
even to scan for relevance, and many postings recently appear
to move ever so agonizingly and asymptotically toward first
principles without quite grasping them, much less applying
them to non-trivial problems in any field
Excellent piece. And excellent quote which I think I had better paste in. I
created the triad Reality Ethics Aesthetics as a suggested post-Peirce
basis for philosophy. It fits in with previous quotes in this thread and
explicitly so with the following:
“Esthetics and logic seem at first blush to
List,
I too second Gary Richmonds note. I'd like to add that multiple postings
seem to be adjunct to this problem.
People send to personal mailboxes in addtion to the list.
If just that gets left out, the mass of mails would not look so awfull,
so hopeless.
Best, Kirsti
Ia mail is sent
Yes, I had that in mind in sending the CP quote and it seems relevant to
recent discussions. Then there is this: "IN an article published in The
Monist for January 1891, I endeavored to show what ideas ought to form the
warp of a system of philosophy, and particularly emphasised that of absolute
Thanks Jon. That is a direct confirmation of the rather over the top
dispatch of Aristotle in the quote I sent. My own work maintained initially
that Aristotle's ethics were responsible for the ethical problems of our
first two millennia and I laid that at the feet of his reliance on virtues
which
Hi Jon,
Excellent quote; thanks, Jon. I had not seen (recalled?) it
before, and it offers another example of Peirce's universal
categories, plus is the clearest statement I have seen yet of
Peirce's definition of nominalism v realism.
Mike
Dear Stephen:
As I have read, Peirce desired nothing more than to accede to the title of
"Second Aristotle"
From the first paragraph of first volume of CP:
"[I intend] to make a philosophy like that of Aristotle, that is to say, to
outline a theory so comprehensive that, for a long time to
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}Stephen - Peirce was 'Aristotelian' in issues about Matter and Form;
and the primacy of sensate data in our experience - and the nature of
Reality vs the individual Existence. But - Aristotle's evolution
theory was - as
List:
As the chief culprit for the recent glut of messages--apparently I was the
sender of more than one-third of the 200+ over the first 11 days of
February--I offer my sincere apology, and my promise to try to temper my
enthusiasm for the current discussion topics, or at least "pace myself"
Dear All:
A quarter of a century ago (December 1993), several of the subjects of this
discussion thread (either explicit, implied, or merely mentioned) were
rather eloquently addressed in an article in *First Things*, "Discovering
the American Aristotle," by Edward T. Oakes:
Dear list,
As regards the 200 emails,
It is obvious why we don’t appreciate that.
It is not so obvious that we appreciate *Gorgias* and Peirce’s sense of
humor for a similar reason.
On the topic of Discovering the American Aristotle, Peirce also said *of it*,
remember:
Aristotle was
Stephen,
I know not what course others may take but
I count Aristotle as the first pragmatist.
Whatever he may owe to Plato, he exerted
himself to maintain a connection between
forms (ideas) and practical matters in
real-life experience.
Regards,
Jon
On 2/12/2018 10:22 AM, Stephen C. Rose
Kirsti, list,
Thanks Kirsti for reminding us that in most cases it is probably best not
to, say, reply to All but only to Peirce-L. The way my email is set up,
even if I am Cc'd I only get the Peirce-L post, but I can imagine how
irksome it must be to get 200 Peirce-L posts in a little over a
Helmut, List,
Here is one of my musements on
a few pertinent paragraphs from
Aristotle's treatise “On the Soul”:
Inquiry Driven Systems • The Formative Tension
http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Inquiry_Driven_Systems_:_Part_2#The_Formative_Tension
Consider especially:
We describe
Edwina, Helmut, List:
The nearly 40 different types of "form" that Peirce cataloged in CP
6.360-361 (from Baldwin's *Dictionary*, 1902) highlight the importance of
being clear about *what we mean* by "Form" when we talk about it; likewise
"Matter." In NEM 4:292-300 (c. 1903?), Peirce stated the
Dear list,
The word ‘reality’, which in the concept of the thing sounds other than the
word ‘existence’ in the concept of the predicate, is of no avail in meeting
this objection. For if all positing (no matter what it may be that is
posited) is entitled reality, the thing with all its
Dear All,
I wonder why Peirce associated the categories like that. To me it rather seems like matter would be 1ns, form 2ns, and entelechy 3ns. That is because I cannot see more than one mode in matter, but 2 in form: Reason for it, and aim (telos) of it. Aristotle said, that form consists of
Helmut, list
My view of Peirce's Form and Matter is quite different from that of
JAS. I refer you to Vol 6, 354-364, which has an extensive outline of
different types of form. Indeed, he associates Form with 'forma
corpus' and 'morphe' {Note: I am transliterating from the
Jon A, I assume you were responding to the Peirce quote and disagreeing. My
own feeling is that violence and doing harm are addressed by Peirce and
accepted by Aristotle and that binary thinking is more inclined to violence
than triadic.
Note to Gary R. If you can provide instruction on how to
On a related note ...
That Aristotling Town
=
The man’s reputation for dualing exceeds him.
It’s a mode more the eyebeam of the beholden.
Western wayfarers will claim him their founder,
But they founder on the way his meta*physick
Straddles the narrow straits of their
Jon S, Edwina, list,
For now, just some preliminary thoughts on Jon's several bullet points. In
response to Edwina, Jon wrote:
1. It seems like we both struggle, although in different ways, with
talking about Signs as individual "things"--like "a stone on a sandy
beach," or "an organism" trying
Gary R., List:
1. I am inclined to agree with you on this. As I understand it, the end
of semiosis--both its final cause and its termination--is the production of
a habit; a substance is a bundle of habits; and a material substance is a
bundle of habits that are so inveterate, it has
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