Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Jan Dubois wrote: > I actually find your attitude quite annoying. The packages on > PPM are provided as a *free* service for people who don't own > a C compiler and/or don't want to bother with building the > modules themselves. I'd like to take this opportunity to express my thanks for this s

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

8 PM Subject: Visual Perl in Visual Studio > Something I never dreamed would happen... > > http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html > > Hmmm...I can't say that I like the new look of the AS site. Guess I'll just > have to adjust ;-) &

RE: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Yes. Three cheers for Jan! :) One will learn to appreciate PPMs after experiencing the building of a module hands-on ;) Alan Swan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Simon Oliver > > Well said Jan, I like ppm and even run my

RE: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

>On Sun, 28 May 2000 20:59:53 -0400, Matthew Persico <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >>"Paul Rogers [CE]" wrote: >>> >>> Something I never dreamed would happen... >>> >>> http://www.activestate.com/Cor

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Well said Jan, I like ppm and even run my own ppm repository (mainly DBI modules). One ppm advantage is that the html man pages are inserted into the ActiveState document tree. I suppose when we get Visual it will migrate to MSDN htmlhelp. -- Simon --- You are currently subscribed to perl-wi

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

From: "Paul Rogers [CE]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, I think it was a reference to Visual Perl as it will be included in > Visual Studio, which itself includes Visual C++. Well, my VS includes Visual Basic instead. Blew the C++ away after getting tired of 100 meg of fat I wasn't using. A Pe

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

On Mon, 29 May 2000 18:51:31 -0400, Bernie Parent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Same old story and Microsoft philosophy. Embrace, extend and extinguish. > >Perl was once the software for all computers and operating systems. Ports >once supported >Borland compilers. Microsoft provided dollars to

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

On Mon, 29 May 2000 10:22:16 -0400, "Paul Rogers [CE]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And if you haven't got a C compiler, then Visual Perl won't help you with >> this either. > >Well, I think it was a reference to Visual Perl as it will be included in Visual >Studio, which itself includes Visual

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

On Sun, 28 May 2000 22:02:44 -0400, Matthew Persico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In any event, I'm still awe struck by the "Visual Perl" announcement. However, >> the concept does sound intriguing. Having a hard time accepting that MS is so >> closely embracing perl. > > >MS isn't. Sounds to m

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

On Sun, 28 May 2000 20:59:53 -0400, Matthew Persico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Paul Rogers [CE]" wrote: >> >> Something I never dreamed would happen... >> >> http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html >> >Does this mean we will FINALLY be able to drop all the

RE: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

> Behalf Of Bernie Parent > > > Same old story and Microsoft philosophy. Embrace, extend and extinguish. > > Perl was once the software for all computers and operating systems. Ports > once supported > Borland compilers. Microsoft provided dollars to Activestate under the > auspices of providing

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

At 09:36 PM 5/28/00 -0400, Paul Rogers [CE] wrote: >> Does this mean we will FINALLY be able to drop all the PPM crap and just >> invoke the Visual Studio C compile where necessary on ANY CPAN module? >> Ah, the simplicity of >> >> perl Makefile.PL >> make test >> make install > >And what's so com

RE: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Well I have been doing exactly that for about 2(3?) years now except I use the following steps perl makefile.PL make make test make install Works for me. Doesn't it work for you? > Behalf Of Matthew Persico > > > "Paul Rogers [CE]" wrote: > > > > Something I nev

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Garold L. Johnson wrote: > [snip] > From the Visual Perl page on ActiveState: > > "Visual Perl is a plug in for Microsoft's next-generation development > environment, Visual Studio 7." > ... > "Visual Perl will be available at the same time as Visual Studio 7." > I read this as saying that Visual

RE: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Paul Rogers [CE] wrote: > Philip Newton wrote: > > So having Visual Perl is orthogonal to having Visual C++; > > you can have one without the other. As I understand it, at > > least. > > So Visual Perl will not require having Visual Studio? This > doesn't seem right. [snip] >From the Visual Perl

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Please don't omit attributions. You've snipped "Philip Newton wrote:" twice already. Paul Rogers [CE] wrote: > Philip Newton wrote: > > So having Visual Perl is orthogonal to having Visual C++; > > you can have one without the other. As I understand it, at > > least. > > So Visual Perl will not

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

> So having Visual Perl is orthogonal to having Visual C++; you can have one > without the other. As I understand it, at least. So Visual Perl will not require having Visual Studio? This doesn't seem right. VP is a separate entity from VS? P --- --- You are currently subscribed to perl-win32

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Paul Rogers [CE] wrote: > Philip Newton wrote: > > And if you haven't got a C compiler, then Visual Perl won't > > help you with this either. > > Well, I think it was a reference to Visual Perl as it will be > included in Visual Studio, which itself includes Visual C++. As I understood it, Vis

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

> And if you haven't got a C compiler, then Visual Perl won't help you with > this either. Well, I think it was a reference to Visual Perl as it will be included in Visual Studio, which itself includes Visual C++. p --- --- You are currently subscribed to perl-win32-users as: [archive@jab.org

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Matthew Persico wrote: > Does this mean we will FINALLY be able to drop all the PPM > crap and just invoke the Visual Studio C compile where > necessary on ANY CPAN module? Hm? You could do that all along. The sources AS used to compile their version of Perl are available, so you can build your

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

At 09:02 PM 5/28/00, Matthew Persico wrote: >MS isn't. Sounds to me like AS is doing all the work, attaching to MS's >apis. Maybe you can thank US Justice Dept for even getting MS to be >cooperative. You're right. I just think that MSifying (is that a word) Perl is inevitable if it heads into V

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

"Paul Rogers [CE]" wrote: > > > Does this mean we will FINALLY be able to drop all the PPM crap and just > > invoke the Visual Studio C compile where necessary on ANY CPAN module? > > Ah, the simplicity of > > > > perl Makefile.PL > > make test > > make install > > And what's so complex about...

RE: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

I have a feeling swallowing rather than embracing is what they have in mind... > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Paul Rogers [CE] > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 9:36 AM > To: Perl-Win32-Users Mailing List > Subjec

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

> Does this mean we will FINALLY be able to drop all the PPM crap and just > invoke the Visual Studio C compile where necessary on ANY CPAN module? > Ah, the simplicity of > > perl Makefile.PL > make test > make install And what's so complex about... ppm install module-name Nothing really. Th

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

> Yuckola! Looks like they hired the same guy doing those Rothman adds. > Neo-1930's-Art_Dec-Socialist. Exactly! It wouldn't be so obtuse perhaps if the rather drab colour scheme were changed. p --- --- You are currently subscribed to perl-win32-users as: [archive@jab.org] To unsubscribe, fo

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

"Paul Rogers [CE]" wrote: > > Something I never dreamed would happen... > > http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html > Does this mean we will FINALLY be able to drop all the PPM crap and just invoke the Visual Studio C compile where necessary on ANY CPAN module

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

"Paul Rogers [CE]" wrote: > > Something I never dreamed would happen... > > http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html > > Hmmm...I can't say that I like the new look of the AS site. Guess I'll just > have to adjust ;-) > Yuckola! Looks like they hired the sam

Re: Visual Perl in Visual Studio

8 AM Subject: Visual Perl in Visual Studio > Something I never dreamed would happen... > > http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html > > Hmmm...I can't say that I like the new look of the AS site. Guess I'll just > have to adjust ;-) &

Visual Perl in Visual Studio

Something I never dreamed would happen... http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html Hmmm...I can't say that I like the new look of the AS site. Guess I'll just have to adjust ;-) P --- --- You are currently subscribed to perl-win32-users as: [archive@jab.org