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nd regards, // Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer TNX

Re: What is the "self pragma"?

Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> Convolution: ICT solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Nomenclature Question - BEGIN etc.

My suggestion: consequential blocks -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> Convolution: ICT solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Nomenclature Question - BEGIN etc.

Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH skribis 2008-04-10 19:41 (-0400): > On the other hand, that may be the answer right there: "when-blocks". No, this is a when block: when /foo/ { ... } :) -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14489 - doc/trunk/design/syn

antics, but do give Bufs support for transparent en-/decoding, and perhaps even unicode semantics. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> Convolution: ICT solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Concerns about "{...code...}"

sing the code. Unpaid non-opensource code usually stays at ""... My excuse is growing up with BASIC. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> Convolution: ICT solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Factoring Arguments

cumfix:<" "> := "e:.assuming(:!c); Hm, would the following work? given "e:.assuming(:!c) -> &circumfix:<" "> { ... } -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: perl 6 grammar

review current standards for method > declaration; last I'd checked, the invocant did not need to be > explicitly named. It does if you want to access it by a name other than a lone sigil. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAI

Re: xml and perl 6

XML type would only serve to antiquate Perl 6 long before > it's time (!), and is therefore a ... nonstarter. Amen. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> Convolution: ICT solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Ternary endweight alternative?

l way.) And this ambiguity is, IMO, more than enough reason to disallow this. As for the end weight problem, try formatting the thing in three lines like I do. That quickly makes it readable again: system $?OS eq any ?? 'cls' !! 'clear'; This puts "system

Re: Web Module (Was: Perl6 new features)

d this by default, because it would make it easier for vendors to choose to use Perl in their base system. It would also make Perl a more attractive choice for embedded systems. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution:

Re: Web Module (Was: Perl6 new features)

standards (Web, POD, ...), this is our one chance to get it right, for the next two decades. This said, I don't think Web should be core. It should be the *first* web toolkit for Perl 6, though. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A<> code

e gained by pre-empting this and picking > something initially. I disagree very strongly. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Referring to source code within Perldoc: the new A<> code

o ever have consistent, semantic, structured OO documentation throughout CPAN (and numerous in house projects), we must start with Perl itself, and there isn't the option of having this tool be third party. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://ju

Re: POD <-> Code entanglement

ld still generate it from something else. A few macros could help ignore the inline documentation. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Generalizing ?? !!

Zev Benjamin skribis 2007-06-11 0:57 (-0400): > ?? and !! could always return some kind of result object that boolizes > to true or false. Can we *please* keep simple things simple? -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig

Re: PERL arrays

.html I couldn't find how to loop over multidimensionally shaped arrays; maybe you can and maybe someone can show an example. ...Are you sure you were asking about Perl 6? -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convoluti

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

Dictionaries are usually alphabetically ordered. Hashes are not. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: .perl, nested arrays, parens and a bug with .perl after hyperop

his does not work with pugs, so I don't know if I am wrong, or pugs is wrong. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Sigils by example

Thomas Wittek skribis 2007-05-15 1:52 (+0200): > Would it be a good idea to call methods on objects, that never thought > of this methods? Absolutely! Roles can be used for that too. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig

Re: Is Perl 6 too late?

k a language needs a good balance between symbols and letters comma and for a programming language comma I think alternating between the two is close to a perfect balance comma whereas in human languages once, every $few (words) is.probably; "period" -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl

Re: Sigils by example (was: Re: Is Perl 6 too late?)

list context: my @quux = (@foo, @bar); # These arrays "foo" and "bar" flatten my @quux = ($foo, $bar); # These arrays "foo" and "bar" do not That's a subtle yet very useful distinction. But this is "just" very handy, not important. --

Re: Sigils by example

ng style. And since my preferred style is different, I'm glad you're not designing Perl 6. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Is Perl 6 too late?

se if we had line \ continuation characters in here, it would suddenly look a lot \ different. Did you, while reading this, pause, just before "different"? -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sigils by example (was: Re: Is Perl 6 too late?)

put" be? The Perl Way: %count $input (or %count input) looks wrong, error caught even before compile time, programmer time and energy conserved. | And how on earth would you write "object.foo()", where foo is a variable | holding a reference to a method, not the name of the method, if you had | no sigils? The Perl Way: $object.foo() calls the method called "foo". $object.$foo() calls the method that is in the variable $foo. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Is Perl 6 too late?

h: Perl is very hard to read for someone who doesn't know Perl well enough. But that's practically true for almost language, be it Python or Japanese. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: What should file test operators return?

f needs a boolean output template, but it would be nice if it were configurable. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r14357 - doc/trunk/design/syn

[EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis 2007-03-28 13:17 (-0700): > +block) early using the C verb. More precidely, it leaves the precisely? -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMA

Re: lexical subs

Juerd Waalboer skribis 2007-03-09 21:27 (+0100): > Just a short note: please, if this is implemented, make sure that either > Perl 6 conforms to Perl 5 behaviour, or the other way around. Wanted to CC this list, but by accident replaced the To instead. Now CC'ing p5p. -- kora

Re: lexical subs

Just a short note: please, if this is implemented, make sure that either Perl 6 conforms to Perl 5 behaviour, or the other way around. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consult

Re: [S09] "Whatever" indices and shaped arrays

ojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ik vertrouw stemcomputers niet. Zie <http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/>.

Re: for ... else

Thomas Wittek skribis 2007-03-03 23:17 (+0100): > Larry Wall: > > : if ($item = 'foobar') { > == of course ;) Or how about eq? :) -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions

Re: Closures, compile time, pad protos

Yuval Kogman skribis 2006-11-22 16:01 (+0200): > my $x ::= 3; > sub foo { say ++$x }; Why would you be allowed to ++ this $x? It's bound to an rvalue! -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.n

Re: Interrogative statements

ve in different places, so you can just use a normal postfix operator: sub postfix: ($lhs) { $CALLER::_ = $lhs; } 42?; say($_); # prints 42! # This code is not futuristic. It already works with Pugs. But you wanted a statement thingy. That would require that you modif

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r12875 - doc/trunk/design/syn

ion matches Can't this be generalized somehow? Return an lvalue proxy, like substr does, and make thunking the default for certain LHS types. I don't like special syntax that looks like normal syntax. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <htt

Bytes make no sense on text strings

TF-8 string. I propose that using :bytes on a text string throws an exception. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ik vertr

Re: Comments in qw// or qqw//

quot;bar baz", # And quux => "xyzzy",# comments blah => "42#15",# go red => "#FF0000", # here ); but with much less punctuation and finger strain. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Recursing? hypers

# 43, 16 [ 42, 15 ] »+ 1 # 2 [ 42, 15 ] »»+ 1 # [ 43, 16 ] The ASCII variant is a bit big, but that's okay huffmanwise, IMO. Recursion can be a pretty big operation anyway. Being explicit about that is good. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: S5: substitutions

all bracketing delimiters the same there. Partly for future-proofness, partly for least surprise. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Nested statement modifiers.

tatement modifier to a do block is >specifically disallowed Oh. For some reason, I thought this exception was for loops only. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Nested statement modifiers.

for that! :) say 1 if 1 and 1 and 1; Oh, and 1 is always true. So you could just write: say 1; Which seems like a great improvement. It may be more useful to discuss this issue using less contrived examples. :) -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Dumb list-flattening question.

MAIL PROTECTED]), then > what do we call what > the \ is doing there, now that references are supposed to be a > behind-the-scenes automagical thing? They're captures. I personally wouldn't mind unary $, to supplement unary @ and %. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer:

Re: renaming "grep" to "where"

the items > that fail the test, while 'reject' would filter out the ones that pass > it. There's a neat trick for this: .grep:{ not ... } HTH :) -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: -X file test operators

#x27;t fix the shorthand syntax for testing -e on $_ at all, because .'-e' is no better than -e($_). Well, okay, 1 character, but it costs a lot of grokability. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> convolution: ict solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: -X file test operators

the .* variants, not to mention generating method > names by interpolation without needing a temp variable.) First impressions: Ugly, hard to type, not a solution for -e, weird syntax. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.

Re: -X file test operators

t 9th about the -X filetest > operators between at least audreyt, Juerd, myself and markstos. The > problem with these operators was that they conflicted in some cases with > the parsing of unary -, such as: > foo(-?? * 2 * $r); > or just: > sub x($n) { $n*2 }

Re: Outlaw to declare a lexical twice in the same scope

then. Just ignoring the declaration is bad, just like implicit declaration. If we do this, we get only typo checking, and none of the other nice protection that lexical declaration gives us. -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig&g

Re: Naming the method form of s///

presses... "And since it's something used a lot in expressions, you wouldn't use the parenless form of the method call much." Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: but semantics (was Re: Naming the method form of s///)

ject, so you'd need a different explanation... > I do not think that C should mutate its LHS, regardless what its RHS > is. Agreed, and that's why "$foo but s///" would be a reasonable replacement for what's currently still "$foo.subst(//, '')".

Re: Naming the method form of s///

ecause we have stuff like :2nd and :3th. And if we're parsing anyway, you might as well pass in a string. Indeed, :g would only be syntactic sugar. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Naming the method form of s///

think that's a pretty intuitive > way of handling the problem. It is indeed a modifier on the *match*, or the *substitution*. Just not on the *regex*. What you pass to a .subst method is a regex, not a match. The difference is that matches and substitutions are actions, while a

Re: Naming the method form of s///

/ postfix op mainly stems from this argument, but I really also believe that ~~ and s/// is a farfetched combination. Perl 5's =~ was a binding operator, and s/// fit right in. But Perl 6's ~~ is a matching operator, and in my opinion should remain pure, and so: not mutate. I'm even a bit in

Re: Naming the method form of s///

f called "s") is good huffman coding. My expectation is that copying substitution will be used much - perhaps even more than mutating substitution! $foo.subst(/foo/, "bar") $foo.s(/foo/, "bar") $foo.s/foo/bar/ Hm. I don't know how "but"

Re: Naming the method form of s///

can easily replicate. I personally still prefer $foo.s/// and $foo.=s///, because I don't think substitution belongs in a smart match op. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Contextual::Return (was Re: could 'given' blocks have a return value?)

Damian Conway skribis 2006-08-31 9:08 (+1000): > return want.rw ?? $lvalue > :: want.count == 2 ?? (7,11) > :: want.item ?? 42 > :: want.list ?? 1..10 > ::die "Bad context; s:g/::/!!/ #

Re: clarifying the spec for 'ref'

| | | Class > B | > | > --| > |Class C | > ---- I'm curious what this was supposed to look like. :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: clarifying the spec for 'ref'

Trey Harris skribis 2006-08-25 13:26 (-0700): > Explain to me how "nontraditional" DBC might work in an internally > consistent way. Otherwise, this is hand-waving. :-) Perl *is* hand-waving.

Re: clarifying the spec for 'ref'

my Array::Const @foo; @foo ~~ Array; # False?! Please, no. Though in practice I expect "is ro" to be used, not a subtype or subset. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: clarifying the spec for 'ref'

value of an element at an index > * set the value of an element at an index You define in terms of functionality, but don't provide an explanation for the chosen point of view. One could say that constant arrays protect against modifications, which normal arrays don't. Hence,

Re: Pair of lists => list of pairs?

reduction, and is prefix: [+] 1,2,3 Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: underscores in the core lib

I want core stuff to be consise and short. > On 8/6/06, Ashley Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 8/6/06, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please do not answer above the quote. Regards, Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: DOC: glossary

I haven't actually read your message, just the Subject, because I was just going to bed. Be sure to check out http://pugs.kwiki.org/?Perl6Nomenclature Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Synchronized / Thread syntax in Perl 6

ame, > except it implies serializing to a serial format, like disk. "Locked" is > the best name I can think of, and it frankly isn't that good -- it's so > vauge as to be able to mean almost anything. is exclusive Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.h

Re: Perl 6 Wiki -- 2 more possibilities, & further discussion.

Please, for proper threading, don't reply to multiple messages at once. Conrad Schneiker skribis 2006-05-25 1:46 (-0700): > Juerd wrote: > > Feather, the semi-public, semi-private, Perl 6 development server, is > > available to host a Perl 6 wiki. > > The hostname ww

Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6)

> Perl 6 pages, and so on. Feather, the semi-public, semi-private, Perl 6 development server, is available to host a Perl 6 wiki. The hostname www.perl6.nl is deliberately kept available for something like that. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd

Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6).

mation with PHP is possible, but there will be people who will interpret that meta-info. Besides that, the page is kind of slow... But that could be temporary. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: A rule by any other name...

er be allowed outside a grammar, > I entirely agree. I don't. While disallowing named methods and rules may be a wise idea (I'm not sure they are), the anonymous forms are probably very useful to have around. my $method = method { ... }; $object.$method(...); Juerd -- http://conv

Re: Scans

Gaal Yahas skribis 2006-05-08 17:58 (+0300): > (Is there special sugar to make @input be the last index when used in a > range, or did you mean ..^ ?) I meant @input.last, or probably @input.indices (or .keys?) instead of the entire range, and @input.first instead of the first 0. Juerd --

Re: Scans

..<< ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ] Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: [S05] /ee

Dr.Ruud skribis 2006-05-05 15:25 (+0200): > > s/pattern/{ eval doit() }/ > s/eval/try/ ? No, string eval stays eval. Only block eval is renamed to try. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Perl 6 Perl 6 Wiki Wiki (RFC: Community education page)

on the outside, this will do Perl 6 much good. I've been meaning to do this myself, but I'm past the point where I give up waiting for sufficient sufficiently round tuits. Of course, feather can host it :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://conv

Re: Linking Synopses to corresponding pod-files?

Markus Laire skribis 2006-05-04 14:55 (+0300): > When reading Synopses, I sometimes notice some mistakes or typos, > which I'd like to submit a patch for, but it's not easy to do so as I > don't know where to get the source. Have you tried s/html/pod/? :) Juerd -

Re: A shorter long dot

Larry Wall skribis 2006-04-30 9:58 (-0700): > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:15:08PM +0200, Juerd wrote: > : Larry indicated that changing the long dot would have to involve > : changing the first character. The only feasible solution in the "tiny > : glyphs" section was the ba

Re: A shorter long dot

Gaal Yahas skribis 2006-04-30 16:05 (+0300): > But it doesn't work across lines: > $and_a_long_one_I_still_want_to_align. > :foo() Explain to me why it wouldn't work, please. I don't get it. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.ht

Re: A shorter long dot

t so long that I'm likely to have foo.___:bar, and $foo.__:bar is clean. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: A shorter long dot

.___:bar Would suffice for my needs. Not sure if people are willing to give up their underscore-only method names, though. Perhaps whitespace can be allowed in numbers too: 5 000 000; 5_000_000; Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/

Re: A shorter long dot

Yuval Kogman skribis 2006-04-30 2:58 (+0300): > > We need to be careful not to require the language to solve problems that > > are better solved with tools. > On that point I agree, but I think it was a question of > aesthetics... Juerd? Yes, it was about both aesthe

Re: A shorter long dot

vel. These cascades look messy. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: A shorter long dot

rd to spot, and about underscores) are made, and I think healthy discussion can lead to a much better solution than the current long dot. People who think it wastes their time, by now know what this thread is about, and can choose to ignore it. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak

Re: A shorter long dot

editors, like to keep them at the default settings. And whenever you have to create a macro to do something that's common in a certain programming language, that programming language was badly designed. Let's not let Perl 6 be such a language. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/

Fw: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: A shorter long dot

4 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A shorter long dot Testing with sbc30k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 16:50 < audreyt> Juerd: write to p6l and explain the ".." conflict, The current long dot consists of a dot, then whitespace, and then another dot. The whitespac

A shorter long dot

> 16:50 < audreyt> Juerd: write to p6l and explain the ".." conflict, The current long dot consists of a dot, then whitespace, and then another dot. The whitespace is mandatory, which makes the construct at least three characters long. Tripling the length of an operator, just t

Re: S5 - Question about repetition qualifier

hing like that. Quite often. A silly example: $hex_wep_key ~~ /^ **{10|26} $/ Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: =$fh vs *$fh

documents for storage. > [101 lines] I wish I had time to read it all. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r8573 - doc/trunk/design/syn

tirely predictible. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r8573 - doc/trunk/design/syn

syntax style. And in this case, I think it breaks almost everyone's syntax style, not just that of a few. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r8573 - doc/trunk/design/syn

bar(...). baz(...). quux(...) because then you lose visual indication that bar, baz, and quux are methods (rather than functions), and the . and the end of a line is visually lost and probably easily forgotten. Plus, I don't like continuation characters at all. Please reconsider. J

Re: Perl 6 design wiki?

7;s even quite likely that although it describes the way you intended the module to be used, it doesn't cover all the bases. See DBIx::XHTML_Table and Apache::Session, that have nothing to do with DBI and Apache, respectively. More and more, I like cute names that don't really desc

Re: Instance attributes collision

Luke Palmer skribis 2006-02-13 9:46 (+): > class Baz { > does Foo; > does Bar; # does this count as double declaration? > } I'd put composition and inheritance in a slightly different category than accessor *generators*. Juerd -- http

Re: Instance attributes collision

rning, but not an error? I'd expect has $.a; has @.a; To result in both $.a and @.a, but only one method .a, which is an accessor for @.a Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: The definition of 'say'

tter plan than having it default to any ORS, even if that ORS happens to be \n. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Conversion oneliner t-shirt

no profit in there for me, or anyone except Cafepress. (I did add $ 0.01 because I think .99 values are incredibly silly.) Please donate to TPF separately :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]

nt? I fear someone will suggest the ff ligature. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]

hat we can use "ff" and "fff" to mean "loud" > and "really loud" in our perl poetr^H^H^H^H^Hmusic. :-) We need pp and ppp for balance. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

[OT] Re: Parrot and PGE will save the day (was Re: "as if" [Was: Selective reuse of storage in &bless.] )

t some golfs ... Not worth the effort, because length('[EMAIL PROTECTED]') == length('push a'). Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

perl6-language@perl.org

e for calling it that) did not. The two are wildly incompatible, but we do want both. Well, perhaps you do not, but many of us here do. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Perl 6's &bless is (seriously) broken

u used and calling those attributes. > 3) It then creates your BUILD() method, putting all the non-bless > components of your new() into it. Doesn't solve the problems as mentioned in this thread, like overlapping methods. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Perl 6's &bless is (seriously) broken

if "everything is NOT an object", then the synopsis need to > reflect this. I was more thinking along the lines of "NOT everything is an object", "but some things are". Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Perl 6's &bless is (seriously) broken

fferent kinds of references as > >instances of the same class. But I don't recall ever having > >encountered > >that. > bless([] => 'Foo'); > bless({} => 'Foo'); > bless(\*Foo => 'Foo'); > bless(\(my $var) => 'Foo&

Re: Perl 6's &bless is (seriously) broken

Juerd skribis 2006-01-19 22:18 (+0100): > Could you live with @foo being an array, and @foo in scalar context > returning a reference to that array? And with arrays being interfaces to > underlying Arrays, which are objects, which makes arrays non-objects > that can be used *as* ob

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