Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread Trey Harris
If the issue is that you aren’t comfortable enough with Git¹, I assume as part of the basic toolkit of a sysadmin you know how to generate a unified diff patchfile (with `diff -ruN` or equivalent)? If so, if you generate one and upload it attached to a GitHub issue, we can figure out how to turn

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-17 11:55, Tom Browder wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 1:44 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: ... Was this what you were referring to? https://github.com/Raku/doc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md No, check this link:

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 1:44 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: ... > Was this what you were referring to? > > https://github.com/Raku/doc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md No, check this link: https://help.github.com/en/github/collaborating-with-issues-and-pull-requests/creating-a-pull-request

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-17 11:43, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-17 06:58, Tom Browder wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 06:06 Todd Chester via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote:     On 2020-01-17 00:12, Veesh Goldman wrote: > he's finally looked into making pull

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-17 06:58, Tom Browder wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 06:06 Todd Chester via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: On 2020-01-17 00:12, Veesh Goldman wrote: > he's finally looked into making pull requests. Do you have a link to the pull requests for the

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-17 06:15, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Todd, On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 04:06:10 -0800 Todd Chester via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-17 00:12, Veesh Goldman wrote: he's finally looked into making pull requests. Do you have a link to the pull requests for the documentation? I'd like to add

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 06:06 Todd Chester via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > > > On 2020-01-17 00:12, Veesh Goldman wrote: > > he's finally looked into making pull requests. > > Do you have a link to the pull requests for > the documentation? I'd like to add some examples > to a

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Todd, On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 04:06:10 -0800 Todd Chester via perl6-users wrote: > On 2020-01-17 00:12, Veesh Goldman wrote: > > he's finally looked into making pull requests. > > Do you have a link to the pull requests for > the documentation? I'd like to add some examples > to a few pages.

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread Todd Chester via perl6-users
On 2020-01-17 00:12, Veesh Goldman wrote: he's finally looked into making pull requests. Do you have a link to the pull requests for the documentation? I'd like to add some examples to a few pages.

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-17 Thread Veesh Goldman
I just want to point out in Todd's credit that he both admitted that he doesn't know how to use github, and that he's finally looked into making pull requests. On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 1:21 AM Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > On 16 Jan 2020, at 21:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < >

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
> On 16 Jan 2020, at 21:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users > wrote: > On 2020-01-16 12:09, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: >>> On 16 Jan 2020, at 20:29, Darren Duncan wrote: >>> On 2020-01-16 3:09 a.m., Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: I wonder if this is how you treat your family as well. If you do,

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
Trey, I am wrong ALL THE TIME. I have to apologize all the time too. I live with egg on my face constantly. You get use to it. When I am in the wrong, I will bend over five way to Sunday to apologize. If you decide to take offense where none is intended and you have it explained to

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread Trey Harris
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 15:04 ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-16 11:00, Trey Harris wrote: > and your apparent misapprehension that > merely explaining away a statement that some took offense to, without > any outward sign of contrition, inoculates you

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-16 12:09, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: On 16 Jan 2020, at 20:29, Darren Duncan wrote: On 2020-01-16 3:09 a.m., Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: I wonder if this is how you treat your family as well. If you do, then I feel sorry for your family. And wouldn't be surprised if they abandoned

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-16 12:09, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-16 11:29, Darren Duncan wrote: On 2020-01-16 3:09 a.m., Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: I wonder if this is how you treat your family as well.  If you do, then I feel sorry for your family.  And wouldn't be surprised if they

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-16 11:29, Darren Duncan wrote: On 2020-01-16 3:09 a.m., Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: I wonder if this is how you treat your family as well.  If you do, then I feel sorry for your family.  And wouldn't be surprised if they abandoned you. That is unnecessarily harsh and uncalled for

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
> On 16 Jan 2020, at 20:29, Darren Duncan wrote: > On 2020-01-16 3:09 a.m., Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: >> I wonder if this is how you treat your family as well. If you do, then I >> feel sorry for your family. And wouldn't be surprised if they abandoned you. > That is unnecessarily harsh and

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-16 11:00, Trey Harris wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:19 ToddAndMargo via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: As far as the Dog remark, I have told you and others ENDLESSLY what that meant.  That you continue to deliberately misrepresent me on this is a

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2020-01-16 3:09 a.m., Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: I wonder if this is how you treat your family as well. If you do, then I feel sorry for your family. And wouldn't be surprised if they abandoned you. That is unnecessarily harsh and uncalled for Liz, the last sentence particularly. --

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2020-01-16 9:22 a.m., ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: Since folks do not like the programming/math term "carinal", it would be perfectly happy if the error message was changed from: This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Str to This type cannot unbox to a native unsigned

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread Trey Harris
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:19 ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > As far as the Dog remark, I have told you and others > ENDLESSLY what that meant. That you continue to > deliberately misrepresent me on this is a moral > issue on your part. The issue is not, now, just

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-09 10:10, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: Hi All, A bug to report: $ perl6 -v This is Rakudo version 2019.07.1 built on MoarVM version 2019.07.1 implementing Perl 6.d. $ p6 'my uint32 $c; $c = "ABC";' This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Str   in block at -e

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
Hi Liz, The Pull Request seems a much better route than the bug reporter. I went to the bug reporter as I am familiar with such from Fedora and others where you can ask for enhancements, etc. on the bug reporter. As far as the Dog remark, I have told you and others ENDLESSLY what that meant.

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-16 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
> On 16 Jan 2020, at 02:24, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users > wrote: > Programming is only part of my business. I am a > consultant to small business. I do EVERYTHING, although > I draw the line at stringing wire. Fortunately, I have > guys that will string wire for me. Apparently you also draw

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 17:32, Tillman Peng wrote: I in fact like to read Todd's every post. Because of his active posting, I know perl6 is there and still alive. regards. Thank you for that. :-)

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Tillman Peng
I in fact like to read Todd's every post. Because of his active posting, I know perl6 is there and still alive. regards. on 2020/1/16 5:57, Richard Hainsworth wrote: Todd, Once again I find myself writing to you directly in response to a post of yours and asking again that you be respectful

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 16:59, Peter Scott wrote: On 1/15/2020 2:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-15 14:18, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: Thank you Richard for this long and thoughtful answer. I have already given up on Todd, I'm glad to see others haven't (yet).  What will follow is

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 16:47, Tom Browder wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 18:38 ToddAndMargo via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: On 2020-01-15 15:50, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > So, the way you behave with him is just nasty and evil. Please stop > doing

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Peter Scott
On 1/15/2020 2:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-15 14:18, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: Thank you Richard for this long and thoughtful answer. I have already given up on Todd, I'm glad to see others haven't (yet).  What will follow is probably a response that is either: a.

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 15:36, Trey Harris wrote: And there’s another example of exactly the sort of things Richard brought up. How about: “I feel like Richard has not liked me for a long time, and that there’s nothing I can do about it. I feel like I could say almost anything and he would find

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 18:38 ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-15 15:50, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > > So, the way you behave with him is just nasty and evil. Please stop > > doing that. > > That is in your own head. Todd, why can't you

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 15:50, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: So, the way you behave with him is just nasty and evil. Please stop doing that. That is in your own head.

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users
The point is really not whether people like you or don't, and also not about whether you like specific people or don't. I don't know you (at least personally), you don't know me personally, and nobody cares about whether I like you or whether you like me. The whole point is about being polite,

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 15:36, Trey Harris wrote: artificially-hyperbolized reference to JJ helped anything after previously calling him a dog. To anyone still misunderstanding this. "Guard Dog" is a figure of speech. It means he is over protective. I DID NOT CALL HIM A DOG. And JJ knew this. I was

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Trey Harris
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 17:39 ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-15 14:18, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > Thank you Richard for this long and thoughtful answer. > > > > I have already given up on Todd, I'm glad to see others haven't (yet). > What will follow

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 15:05, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: I join with Liz and Tom to thank you, Richard, for this long and thoughtful answer. Hi Laurent, I can be long winded too. Wait, it is okay for Richard, but not for me? Anyway, I will eventually wear you down and we will become

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
Richard, Please put aside your personal distaste of me when writing on this group. Write me off line if you want to want to vent. -T

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 14:25, Tom Browder wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:19 PM Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: Thank you Richard for this long and thoughtful answer. Amen, Liz! -Tom (tbrowder) With love and understanding, I will wear both you down and we will become friends again.

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 13:57, Richard Hainsworth wrote: Todd, Once again I find myself writing to you directly in response to a post of yours and asking again that you be respectful to others in this community. Striving for respect for everyone from everyone directly benefits us all. And disrespect

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Richard Hainsworth
Todd, You just did exactly what Liz said you would do by writing 'Richard has not liked me for a long time'. Do you not even re-read your own posts or have the self-awareness to recognise it? Really? Does it matter whether or not 'I like you'? This list is not some place for social media

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users
I join with Liz and Tom to thank you, Richard, for this long and thoughtful answer. Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 22:57, Richard Hainsworth a écrit : > Todd, > > Once again I find myself writing to you directly in response to a post > of yours and asking again that you be respectful to others in

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 14:18, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: Thank you Richard for this long and thoughtful answer. I have already given up on Todd, I'm glad to see others haven't (yet). What will follow is probably a response that is either: a. everybody is against me, b. the Raku community won't

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:19 PM Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > Thank you Richard for this long and thoughtful answer. Amen, Liz! -Tom (tbrowder)

Re: Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
Thank you Richard for this long and thoughtful answer. I have already given up on Todd, I'm glad to see others haven't (yet). What will follow is probably a response that is either: a. everybody is against me, b. the Raku community won't listen, c. the various variations on those themes. I

Once again - You say one thing and do another Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread Richard Hainsworth
Todd, Once again I find myself writing to you directly in response to a post of yours and asking again that you be respectful to others in this community. Striving for respect for everyone from everyone directly benefits us all. And disrespect harms you: your long emails defending your

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 23:11, Darren Duncan wrote: Yes, a uint32 CAN represent a cardinal, but it can ALSO represent an ordinal or a nominal or various other things. It would help me if you would show me some examples of a uint would values were not whole nubmers greater than or equal to zero $_

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-15 10:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: Note that "*lpData" can be a little endian four byte DWORD cardial or a UTF16 array of WORDS. And the UTF array of WORDS is also little endian.

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-14 01:13, JJ Merelo wrote: Never miss a good chance to bash documentation... Guilty as charged? By the way, "C String" REQUIRES a nul at the end: an error in the NativeCall documentation. No, it does not. And even if it did, it should better go to the C, not Raku,

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-14 Thread JJ Merelo
El mar., 14 ene. 2020 1:24, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> escribió: > On 2020-01-13 15:16, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > > Your own record over the last years shows that you very often don't > > understand documentation (and I actually sometimes wonder whether

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 22:56, Darren Duncan wrote: Brad is saying what I've been saying, while a uint CAN represent a cardinal number, one does NOT ALWAYS represent a cardinal number, so saying this only IS a cardinal number is WRONG. -- Darren Duncan Hi Darren, You are mixing specific data

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2020-01-12 11:32 p.m., ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-12 20:03, Darren Duncan wrote: A uint32 is NOT specifically a cardinal. Since a uint32 ca not be negative or a fraction, it is a cardinal.  Other operating system do call them cardinals, such as Modula2. Pascal, C++ (I

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Darren Duncan
Brad is saying what I've been saying, while a uint CAN represent a cardinal number, one does NOT ALWAYS represent a cardinal number, so saying this only IS a cardinal number is WRONG. -- Darren Duncan On 2020-01-13 12:56 p.m., Brad Gilbert wrote: Ok looking into it, zero is inside of the set

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 21:02, Aureliano Guedes wrote: ToddAndMargo, this should handle any kind of columns separated data (or any table). If some column (commonly separated with a constant character as "\t", ";", "|", )  has different types (char, text, int, boolean, ...) in a single column, then

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 21:02, Aureliano Guedes wrote: ToddAndMargo, this should handle any kind of columns separated data (or any table). If some column (commonly separated with a constant character as "\t", ";", "|", )  has different types (char, text, int, boolean, ...) in a single column, then

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Aureliano Guedes
ToddAndMargo, this should handle any kind of columns separated data (or any table). If some column (commonly separated with a constant character as "\t", ";", "|", ) has different types (char, text, int, boolean, ...) in a single column, then it should be treated as a character, but if it has

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Paul Procacci
>> what is the best strategy? My general rule of thumb: If you control the value then you can pick whatever data type that has the largest number of bits to hold your largest value.[1] If you don't control the value, stick with an Int (or Uint). If you stick with Int you can later modify it to

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 20:09, Aureliano Guedes wrote: About the Raku typing, suppose I'll write a library to deal with data frames/tables (as PDL - Perl(5) Data Language), something like Pandas-Python or R. After reading the file (csv; tsv ) I'd like that some routine identifies the best type to

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Aureliano Guedes
About the Raku typing, suppose I'll write a library to deal with data frames/tables (as PDL - Perl(5) Data Language), something like Pandas-Python or R. After reading the file (csv; tsv ) I'd like that some routine identifies the best type to fix each column (especially in cases like Unit,

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 9:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: On 2020-01-13 18:46, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: > On 2020-01-13 17:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: >> And, no one is telling me percisely what the difference >>

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Paul Procacci
>> trying to find the constraints explanation in the documentation: https://docs.raku.org/language/nativetypes "Raku offers a set of *native* types with a fixed, and known, representation in memory" and "However, these types do not necessarily have the size that is required by the NativeCall

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 18:46, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-13 17:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: And, no one is telling me percisely what the difference between UInt and uint is other than one is a subset of Int and the other is a native type.  They act exactly the same. Hi

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 17:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: And, no one is telling me percisely what the difference between UInt and uint is other than one is a subset of Int and the other is a native type.  They act exactly the same. Hi All, Off line, Paul told me what the difference is between

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 16:58, The Sidhekin wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:25 AM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: On 2020-01-13 15:16, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > The way you consistently mixed up uint and Uint in the last hours, > despite

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread The Sidhekin
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:25 AM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-13 15:16, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > > The way you consistently mixed up uint and Uint in the last hours, > > despite having been warned about this mistake, also shows a lack

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 15:16, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: Your own record over the last years shows that you very often don't understand documentation (and I actually sometimes wonder whether you're even really interested in trying to understand it). Actually, I go there a lot and I tear

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users
> What makes you think I did not understand the documentation? Your own record over the last years shows that you very often don't understand documentation (and I actually sometimes wonder whether you're even really interested in trying to understand it). Your disdain for the documentation just

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 14:22, The Sidhekin wrote: Your use of the term "uint" in reference to "UInt" is what makes me think so.   uint and UInt are different types – conceptually related, but with no type relation between them –

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread The Sidhekin
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:46 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-13 12:43, The Sidhekin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < > perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > >> In https://docs.raku.org/type/UInt, a cardinal (uint) >>

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 12:43, The Sidhekin wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-13 11:10,

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 12:56, Brad Gilbert wrote: Ok looking into it, zero is inside of the set of cardinal numbers. It is still wrong to call a uint a cardinal number. It's just wrong for a different reason. Looking through various definitions, a cardinal number is a number which represents a count

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Brad Gilbert
Ok looking into it, zero is inside of the set of cardinal numbers. It is still wrong to call a uint a cardinal number. It's just wrong for a different reason. Looking through various definitions, a cardinal number is a number which represents a count of sets. So a uint could be used to

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread The Sidhekin
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-13 11:10, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: > > > > https://docs.raku.org/type/UInt > > Subset UInt > > Unsigned integer (arbitrary-precision) > > The UInt is defined as a subset

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 11:10, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: https://docs.raku.org/type/UInt    Subset UInt    Unsigned integer (arbitrary-precision)    The UInt is defined as a subset of Int:    my subset UInt of Int where {not .defined or $_ >= 0};    Consequently, it cannot be instantiated 

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-13 06:17, Brad Gilbert wrote: According to the description you copied, a cardinal can never be zero.     any of the numbers     that express amount, as one, two, three, etc. So it is more accurate to call it an integer. Hi Brad, Are you referring to "any of the numbers that

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-13 Thread Brad Gilbert
According to the description you copied, a cardinal can never be zero. any of the numbers that express amount, as one, two, three, etc. So it is more accurate to call it an integer. On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:32 AM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-12 23:20, WFB wrote: Hi Todd, For years, I have been playing around with programming stuff. I never stumbled across the term "cardinal". Its obvious that I am not an native English speaker and it does not hurt to learn new stuff. But, you makes it harder to understand your

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-12 20:03, Darren Duncan wrote: On 2020-01-09 10:10 a.m., ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: A bug to report: $ p6 'my uint32 $c; $c = "ABC";' This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Str    in block at -e line 1 "uint32" is not an "integer".  It is a cardinal.  If

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-12 Thread WFB
Hi Todd, For years, I have been playing around with programming stuff. I never stumbled across the term "cardinal". Its obvious that I am not an native English speaker and it does not hurt to learn new stuff. But, you makes it harder to understand your problems if you not use the common jargon.

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-12 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2020-01-09 10:10 a.m., ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: A bug to report: $ p6 'my uint32 $c; $c = "ABC";' This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Str   in block at -e line 1 "uint32" is not an "integer".  It is a cardinal.  If they really want to use the word "integer"

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
Here is one reason why you do these to to be distinct from each other.  In Win API calls to the registry, REG_DWORDs are all cardinals, not integers: Here is a link to the graphicsthat did not come out: https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/getfile/1525734

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
On 2020-01-12 09:18, Marcel Timmerman wrote: On 1/9/20 7:10 PM, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: 'my uint32 $c; $c = "ABC";' The error shows that you cannot assign a string to an int (This type cannot unbox to a

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-12 Thread Marcel Timmerman
On 1/9/20 7:10 PM, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: 'my uint32 $c; $c = "ABC";' The error shows that you cannot assign a string to an int (*This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Str*) You can do the following to get it right; 'p6  -e 'my uint32 $c; $c = 0xABC;''

Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

2020-01-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via perl6-users
Hi All, A bug to report: $ perl6 -v This is Rakudo version 2019.07.1 built on MoarVM version 2019.07.1 implementing Perl 6.d. $ p6 'my uint32 $c; $c = "ABC";' This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Str in block at -e line 1 "uint32" is not an "integer". It is a cardinal.