Re: [HACKERS] large object regression tests

2006-09-09 Thread Lamar Owen
image. Maybe a photograph of an elephant. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0

Re: [Pgsqlrpms-hackers] [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init

2006-09-09 Thread Lamar Owen
compliance; maybe iSCSI, but NFS?!?!). The behavior, in my opinion, should be configurable and ON by default. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

The long-lost pg_upgrade (was:Re: [HACKERS] 8.2 features status)

2006-08-12 Thread Lamar Owen
). So, anyway, looking forward to seeing some progress in this department... :-) -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] pg_config, pg_service.conf, postgresql.conf ....

2006-03-01 Thread Lamar Owen
never had the time to implement it, and it was always an RPM-centric thought plan for me. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] pg_config, pg_service.conf, postgresql.conf ....

2006-03-01 Thread Lamar Owen
has centralized database tracking. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] Updated email signature

2006-02-18 Thread Lamar Owen
with the Backbone Cabal? What part did you play in the Great Renaming? Man, this is totally off-topic, but a fun distraction... -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: [HACKERS] Updated email signature

2006-02-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 18 February 2006 12:16, Michael Fuhr wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:28:58AM -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: In 1982 I was doing hexadecimal machine code on that TRS-80 Model III, whose non-disk boot lines you quote. My favorite Z80 joke: 01 110100 21 EDB0

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] About my new work at Command Prompt Inc.

2005-12-07 Thread Lamar Owen
that publicly to all those on these lists. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] 8.1 Release Candidate 1 Bundled ...

2005-10-31 Thread Lamar Owen
your dilligence in following those instructions I wrote long ago, but, thanks to your smoother release process (in no small part due to the use of CVS) those instructions are obsolete. Many thanks for being that dilligent! -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research

Re: [HACKERS] 8.02 rpm error

2005-05-20 Thread Lamar Owen
that masqueraded as previous versions, but weren't really previous versions. That can cause it's own broken behavior. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] 8.02 rpm error

2005-05-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 20 May 2005 09:43, Dave Cramer wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: On Friday 20 May 2005 07:55, Dave Cramer wrote: Well, there's not much discussion here. Other than the fact that a few things depend on libpq.so.3. Isn't the standard to keep libpq.so.(n-1) whenever you bump the number up

Re: Learning curves and such (was Re: [HACKERS] pgFoundry)

2005-05-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 01:41, Josh Berkus wrote: To put it much more bluntly: PostgreSQL development (both the process and the codebase) has one of the steepest learning curves around, You haven't looked at the OpenOffice.org code. wince Yes, I have. Yes, it's steeper. -- Lamar Owen

Re: [HACKERS] pgFoundry

2005-05-16 Thread Lamar Owen
' development status showing, possibly in graphical terms, where each subproject of the PostgreSQL core is at right now, updated frequently, as I've changed into more of a user role than a developer role; I can see the forest now, instead of all the RPM bushes and prairie grass. -- Lamar Owen

Re: [HACKERS] pgFoundry

2005-05-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday 16 May 2005 14:12, Robert Treat wrote: On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 12:50, Lamar Owen wrote: The only way in my mind to get this dynamism on the website is to make the website part of the process at some level. If someone has to go One idea I've tossed around is requiring patches

Re: [HACKERS] pgFoundry

2005-05-16 Thread Lamar Owen
of discussion? It doesn't need to be discussed close to a beta cycle, IMO, or it could easily turn into the huge distraction Tom speaks of. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: [HACKERS] Time off

2004-10-23 Thread Lamar Owen
competition for init process timeslices; all such attempts typically require superuser intervention to re-nice. *ducking*and*grinning* -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Core Committee Welcomes New Member

2004-09-16 Thread Lamar Owen
. If I may say so, 'It's about time!' Peter has done great work for a long time. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] beta2 rpms

2004-09-02 Thread Lamar Owen
, but probably not beta2 ones. I have some features I want to work on first, and just simply have not yet had the time to do it. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: [HACKERS] beta2 rpms

2004-09-02 Thread Lamar Owen
to send all logs from all servers to the one central logging server. I have done this a long time. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Lamar Owen
as you would a new product Wow, that is good! Should I change it to Marc's version? As long as 'although' is correctly spelled :-) -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Lamar Owen
a serious bug is found. At that point, that gatekeeper can make a release (the current process is too tied up in people, IMO, and that includes the RPM mechanism (which I have every right to criticize!)). -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1

Re: [HACKERS] Is trust really a good default?

2004-07-13 Thread Lamar Owen
. FWIW, the RPMs default to ident authentication, and trust is off. This is however done as a patch to the sample pg_hba.conf. A command line switch to initdb to mung up an ident default would be fine with me, though. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research

Re: [HACKERS] Official Freeze Date for 7.5: July 1st, 2004

2004-06-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 05 June 2004 10:13, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: There is a reason I wrote the message a long time ago (that, I think, is still in the Developer's FAQ) about how to get started in PostgreSQL development. The first thing a developer should do before getting too

Re: [HACKERS] Official Freeze Date for 7.5: July 1st, 2004

2004-06-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 22:15, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: Well, it should not have surprised anyone. We have targeted June 1 as a beta freeze date for several versions, not just 7.5. In fact, looking back through last year's pre-7.4 discussion, it's deja vu all over again

Re: [HACKERS] Official Freeze Date for 7.5: July 1st, 2004

2004-06-01 Thread Lamar Owen
to such a discussion would have been in the thread http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-01/msg00273.php, at least that's all I could find. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: [HACKERS] Call for 7.5 feature completion

2004-05-18 Thread Lamar Owen
PostgreSQL and plPHP, then tell me how you solved the circular dependency. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9

Re: [HACKERS] Call for 7.5 feature completion

2004-05-18 Thread Lamar Owen
how you solved the circular dependency. Actually plPHP doesn't require the PostgreSQL source tree... you would just have to modify the Make file to point to the right places. Then it can easily be a standalone project, and the issues go away. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology

Re: [HACKERS] Log rotation

2004-03-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 12 March 2004 03:21 pm, Fernando Nasser wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: Uh, we have many many many different ways to use syslog. So my other message on the topic. Which other message? The one I didn't post. :-) Anyway, Syslog is not an option for us. We need flat files. Ok, riddle

Re: [HACKERS] Log rotation

2004-03-13 Thread Lamar Owen
. But, if Red Hat wants to pay Tom to do it... :-) -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading

Re: [HACKERS] Log rotation

2004-03-13 Thread Lamar Owen
better than 7.3.x in that respect? There are several levels documented in postgresql.conf. Try the terse level and see what happens. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: [HACKERS] Log rotation

2004-03-12 Thread Lamar Owen
sure we have more reports about upgrading than logging. But see my reply to bug 103767 for more. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] Sigh, 7.3.6 rewrap not right

2004-03-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 05 March 2004 09:50 am, Mark Gibson wrote: How about in future, packaging it all up as a release candidate, (ie. 7.4.2-rc1) for a week or so before official final release, We do this already for major versions. Maybe we should consider this for minors too. -- Lamar Owen Director

Re: [HACKERS] Sigh, 7.3.6 rewrap not right

2004-03-04 Thread Lamar Owen
move those files over to 7.3.6 ... Please, don't call it 7.3.6. Streamlining releases is terrible. 7.3.7 or 7.3.6.1 or SOMETHING other than 7.3.6, and just let 7.3.6 be a brown paper bag release (like 6.4.1 was). -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research

Re: [HACKERS] Sigh, 7.3.6 rewrap not right

2004-03-04 Thread Lamar Owen
tarballs have been streamlined. I'm glad I hadn't built any RPMs yet. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8

Re: [HACKERS] Heads up: 7.3.6 and 7.4.2 coming soon

2004-02-23 Thread Lamar Owen
children through this difficult time. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your

Re: [HACKERS] Old binary packages.

2004-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday 19 January 2004 03:53 pm, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking at the possibility of cleaning up the binary tree on the ftp site, and was wondering what the group thought about purging old binaries. What I was thinking would be to remove all

Re: [HACKERS] Old binary packages.

2004-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
still among us. And this wouldn't touch the source releases at all. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7

[HACKERS] Old binary packages.

2004-01-19 Thread Lamar Owen
. The space taken by binaries is significant (about 1GB at this point). Since we are keeping all source releases (although I would question that, since we use CVS), keeping all the binaries around is just a space waster, IMHO. Comments? -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah

Re: [HACKERS] Little mess in RPM RH ?

2003-12-30 Thread Lamar Owen
that Red Hat has in its enterprise directory). That box isn't a devel box, but I am building up (while I'm on vacation) a devel box. So I'll be building RPMs on that box with WBEL which should install on RHEL3. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1

Re: [HACKERS] Little mess in RPM RH ?

2003-12-30 Thread Lamar Owen
do it tomorrow, or is may be better do it for the 7.4.1 ? If you'll hold off a few days both 7.4.1 and 7.3.5 RPMs are due to be released. At that point building on various distributions and setting up torrents will be done. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical

Re: [HACKERS] rebuilding rpm for RH9 error

2003-12-04 Thread Lamar Owen
; in fact, I have delayed release of the 7.3.5 RPMset because of this. I'd love to check it out with 7.3.5. (however, real work keeps getting in the way today; it may be a tonight thing, with the upload to happen tomorrow). -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical

Re: [HACKERS] rebuilding rpm for RH9 error

2003-12-02 Thread Lamar Owen
installed at the same time. I am investigating the best way of correcting this without breaking too many things. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] rebuilding rpm for RH9 error

2003-12-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 06:29 pm, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: You need to specify that you are building for Red Hat 9 on the command I'll try. Ok. PS: the 7.4 will be remembered as the longest release to be developed and for the longest period needed in order to have

Re: [HACKERS] -fpic vs. -fPIC

2003-11-29 Thread Lamar Owen
and be Fedora Core based. So, I ask, why change something that is going to work every time to something that may very well break silently in the future? (yes, I know about the performance difference; is the increased performance worth the tradeoff?) -- Lamar Owen Director of Information

Re: [HACKERS] -fpic vs. -fPIC

2003-11-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 29 November 2003 01:07 pm, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The project lead for the Aurora SPARC Linux project is who recommended it in the first place; We were told equally positively, by equally well-informed persons, that we should prefer -fpic if at all

Re: [HACKERS] Updates for RPMS.

2003-11-25 Thread Lamar Owen
this; but at the moment it is manual. The spec file does check the build89 macro, and, if defined, throws in the right value for kerberos. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end

[HACKERS] Updates for RPMS.

2003-11-24 Thread Lamar Owen
. This will just be spec file changes, probably, unless another bug appears in the initscript. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast

[HACKERS] First generic/redhatish RPM's uploaded to ftp.postgresql.org.

2003-11-21 Thread Lamar Owen
this mail and gets the time to build them, as he has already asked to help do this. I have RH 8.0 at my disposal, and will build those. I will also be building Aurora 1.0 packages. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] First generic/redhatish RPM's uploaded to ftp.postgresql.org.

2003-11-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 21 November 2003 01:13 pm, Lamar Owen wrote: I have uploaded a first cut at the RPM's to ftp.postgresql.org. While I am not 100% convinced of the need to do so, I have restructured the directories, and await comment on that. I expect RH 7.3, RH9, and RH 6.2 packages shortly from

Re: [HACKERS] A big thanks to SuSE

2003-11-19 Thread Lamar Owen
is good for PostgreSQL. And he is getting paid to do it, unlike me. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7

Re: [HACKERS] A big thanks to SuSE

2003-11-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:02 pm, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Lamar Owen writes: And he is getting paid to do it, unlike me. That's news to me. :-) Reinhard Max is getting paid to do it, not you. Bad english on my part. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical

Re: [HACKERS] rpm support for 7.4 and beyond

2003-11-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 11:51 pm, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: The biggest issue is going to be 'will it build' on those releases. The tcl version deal (with tcl prior to 8.1) Tom applied a patch so that the build will continue to work on 8.0.x

Re: [HACKERS] rpm support for 7.4 and beyond

2003-11-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 13 November 2003 12:09 am, Matthew T. O'Connor wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 23:44, Lamar Owen wrote: My hands are somewhat tied at the present to only supporting what I actively run. That is currently RHL 8.0 and Fedora Core 1. (not 1.0, incidentally; there is no minor version

Re: [HACKERS] rpm support for 7.4 and beyond

2003-11-12 Thread Lamar Owen
is currently very busy. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] postgres 6.2 vacuum

2003-09-29 Thread Lamar Owen
services that 6.2 has out of the box. 7.3.4 is buildable on 6.2, which makes it a nice balance point for those who want to do this sort of thing. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] postgres 6.2 vacuum

2003-09-26 Thread Lamar Owen
. If I could even get the box up to RHL 6.2 I'd be better off, because PostgreSQL 7.3.x builds and runs well there. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] postgres 6.2 vacuum

2003-09-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 26 September 2003 10:52, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This isn't necessarily true. That old of a version of PostgreSQL is probably running on a quite out-of-date OS -- for instance, if the OS was Red Hat Linux, then the point at which 6.2.1 was shipped

Re: [HACKERS] Single-file DBs WAS: Need concrete Why Postgres

2003-08-22 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 22 August 2003 18:42, Josh Berkus wrote: Bad link. This gives me a post by Lamar Owen talking about usng OIDs to name files. I think he may be referring to the last paragraph. Vadim had said that the tablenames would go to OIDs. They have always been individual files. Been

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 beta binaries

2003-08-14 Thread Lamar Owen
? If there is, you would want to build it that way; principle of least surprise. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] problem with RH7.3 Pg7.3.4 binaries

2003-08-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 08:14, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Will check later today. When you do, let me know, so that I can post them. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP

Re: [HACKERS] problem with RH7.3 Pg7.3.4 binaries

2003-08-04 Thread Lamar Owen
under those conditions is $100 per hour. (and I have been paid that rate before.) But the official set will only get uploaded once I've had the time to build it and test it. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] problem with RH7.3 Pg7.3.4 binaries

2003-08-04 Thread Lamar Owen
about it. I should have checked: that IS my responsibility. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] problem with RH7.3 Pg7.3.4 binaries

2003-08-04 Thread Lamar Owen
... Tough call, but I think I'll leave them be, since they will install on a fully-updated installation. Although I can't imagine an RHAS install not updated, but that's a different topic. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute

[HACKERS] RPMs for 7.3.4, and a change.

2003-07-28 Thread Lamar Owen
confident that PostgreSQL will rise to the occassion. Some of the plates in question are over 100 years old. New challenges, new opportunities. But still the same PostgreSQL. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Beta RPMS?

2003-07-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday 13 July 2003 18:09, Matthew T. O'Connor wrote: I know it's early, but I was just wondering if there would be 7.4 rpms during beta? I plan to have them. I'm on vacation this week, so it will be next at earliest, depending upon when the beta itself is ready. -- Lamar Owen WGCR

Re: [HACKERS] help with rpm script

2003-07-02 Thread Lamar Owen
parameter). I have a little experience in this regard, having maintained the mainline PostgreSQL RPM's for four years. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-23 Thread Lamar Owen
. If you find testing fun, more power to you. :-) -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match

Re: [HACKERS] Pre-allocation of shared memory ...

2003-06-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 13 June 2003 15:29, Lamar Owen wrote: It is or was a Linux kernel problem. The 2.2 kernel required double swap space, even though it wasn't well documented. Early 2.4 kernels also required double swap space, and it was better documented. Current Red Hat 2.4 kernels, I'm not sure

Re: [HACKERS] Pre-allocation of shared memory ...

2003-06-14 Thread Lamar Owen
overcommit-accounting mode 2 to prevent kills on OOM. Theoretically mode 2 will prevent the possiblity of OOM completely. If I read things right, if you have double swap space mode 0 will not OOM nearly as quickly. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] Pre-allocation of shared memory ...

2003-06-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 13 June 2003 12:46, Nigel J. Andrews wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: Incidentally, Red Hat as of about 7.0 began insisting on swap space at least as large as twice RAM size. In my case on my 512MB RAM notebook, that meant it wanted 1GB swap. If you upgrade your RAM

Re: [HACKERS] Wrong version of jdbc in 7.3.3 rpms

2003-06-06 Thread Lamar Owen
or runtime environments. With the other portions of PostgreSQL, nothing beyond the stock distribution is required for build.) I think it would best serve the users for an active JDBC developer to make that distribution. Please advise how you would like to handle this. -- Lamar Owen WGCR

Re: [HACKERS] No more RH7.3 RPMs?

2003-05-30 Thread Lamar Owen
Hat Software. They are being made available by the PostgreSQL Global Development Group. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs

Re: [HACKERS] No more RH7.3 RPMs?

2003-05-30 Thread Lamar Owen
://www.steffann.nl/PostgreSQL/v7.3.3/ if somebody needs them quickly. Uploading now. Thanks, Sander, and Thanks, Timothy! -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

[HACKERS] PostgreSQL RPM's and Red Hat.

2003-05-29 Thread Lamar Owen
to someone. ++ 7.3.x branch: * Tue May 27 2003 Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7.3.3-1PGDG - Synced up with RawHide. - 7.3.3 - Eliminate spurious symlink of libpq.so.2. - Dropped isblank patch; 7.3.3 uses pg_isblank * Wed Apr 16 2003 Andrew Overholt [EMAIL

Re: [PERFORM] [HACKERS] OSS database needed for testing

2003-04-04 Thread Lamar Owen
out the cdbs files (which contain the broadcast stuff as well as more) at /pub/Bureaus/Mass_Media/Databases/cdbs/ (which I would be more interested in doing, since I am a broadcast engineer by profession) -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end

Re: [PERFORM] [HACKERS] OSS database needed for testing

2003-04-04 Thread Lamar Owen
together open source tools to do much of the same stuff. With the release of the FCC's Fortran source, I've been able to do virtually everything I need to do. But while the LMR dataset is larger, the MB dataset is just as varied. I'm interested in both, however. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet

Re: [PERFORM] [HACKERS] OSS database needed for testing

2003-04-04 Thread Lamar Owen
, with automatic nightly import, at some point in time. Just probably not as quickly as Josh needs a dataset to crank on. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once

Re: [HACKERS] contrib and licensing

2003-04-03 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 03 April 2003 09:29, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And its stubs are in the backend, of all places. Really? I must have missed that. On Linux as compiled in Red Hat 9, at least: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lowen]$ ldd /usr/bin/postgres libreadline.so

Re: [HACKERS] contrib and licensing

2003-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
the library. The executable is therefore covered by this License. Section 6 states terms for distribution of such executables. stifles ROTFL Everyone does realize that on Linux PostgreSQL binaries link against glibc, which is LGPL.. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11

Re: [HACKERS] contrib and licensing

2003-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 22:39, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: stifles ROTFL Everyone does realize that on Linux PostgreSQL binaries link against glibc, which is LGPL.. And your point is? That everyone is being entirely too picky. Hey, we link against other

Re: [HACKERS] contrib and licensing

2003-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 21:59, Stephan Szabo wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: However, linking a work that uses the Library with the Library creates an executable that is a derivative of the Library (because it contains portions of the Library), rather than a work

Re: [HACKERS] contrib and licensing

2003-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 03 April 2003 00:04, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And its stubs are in the backend, of all places. Really? I must have missed that. On Linux as compiled in Red Hat 9, at least: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lowen]$ ldd /usr/bin/postgres libpam.so.0 = /lib

Re: [HACKERS] Numbering of the next release: 8.0 vs 7.4

2003-03-12 Thread Lamar Owen
by either win32 or PITR. And think of this crazy scenario: We release an 8.0 with PITR, then need either a 8.1 or a 9.0 with a FE/BE overhaul, then need a possible 10.0 because we've added win32... yuk. FWIW, the 6.4 protocol change didn't force a move from 6.3.2 to 7.0. -- Lamar Owen WGCR

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-15 Thread Lamar Owen
of PostgreSQL is on topic for -hackers. IMNSHO. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-15 Thread Lamar Owen
know the historical reason)? Comments? -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-15 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 15 February 2003 20:19, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just exactly why does initdb need to drop any config files anywhere? Because we'd like it to edit the correct datadir into the config file, to take just the most obvious example. Shouldn't we

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-15 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 15 February 2003 21:06, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shouldn't we be consistent and have initdb use the datadir set in the config file, which could be supplied by a ./configure switch? That'd mean there is no way to perform an initdb into a nonstandard

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-15 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday 16 February 2003 00:16, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you mind elucidating which point of view is yours? Primarily, one that wants to have multiple postmasters running, of the same or different versions; including test and temporary installations

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
think it is for the better; YMMV. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 13 February 2003 21:13, Bruce Momjian wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: It isn't without precedent to have a directory under /var/run. Maybe /var/run/postgresql. Under this one could have a uniquely named pid file. But how do you handle the default then, where you have postmaster.pid

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
. It's an interlock for PGDATA. So it might be argued that postmaster.pid is misnamed. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
on in client connections). But I do advocate _allowing_ the configuration options Mark has enumerated -- although I really wish we could use the lowercase c instead, for consistency with other OS services. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
of the OS. If it isn't, well, it isn't. This is so that local admin installed (from source -- not from binary package) files don't get clobbered by the next operating system binary upgrade. In that context the FHS (LSB) mandate makes lots of sense. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 13 February 2003 18:41, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: PostgreSQL is as critical as PHP, Apache, or whatever other package is being backended by PostgreSQL. If the package is provided by the distributor, consider it part of the OS. If it isn't

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
of sendmail.cf: so, yes, you can run multiple instances, although it could be argued that it wasn't designed in. Next? -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 13 February 2003 20:09, Bruce Momjian wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: This isn't the same environment, Bruce, that you got into back when it was still Postgres95. So you are saying this isn't my grandma's database anymore. :-) I actually thought of saying it that way, too

Re: [HACKERS] Contract Programmer Advice.

2003-02-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 20:56, Lamar Owen wrote: Being that this group of hackers is one I trust, and that this is a pretty common scenario for contract programming, I thought I'd ask this group a question. I hope you don't mind. I want to thank everyone for their responses. We will see

Re: [HACKERS] location of the configuration files

2003-02-12 Thread Lamar Owen
It is the ONE TRUE PLACE [snip] If PostgreSQL is supported as a part of the base operating system in a Linux distribution, and that distribution wishes to be Linux Standards Base compliant (most do), then PostgreSQL cannot go in /usr/local -- period. IDIC at work. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default configuration (was Re: [pgsql-advocacy]

2003-02-11 Thread Lamar Owen
are to be preferred only if the distributor doesn't have updated ones. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[HACKERS] Contract Programmer Advice.

2003-02-11 Thread Lamar Owen
trust this group, if any of you have had experience dealing with credit collection bureaus and the like, can you please e-mail me privately with your experience? -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting

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