Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Tom Lane wrote: AFAICS the bottom line here is that we need some intelligent filtering. In the short run I doubt that we can have that except through human gruntwork to filter the mail traffic and update a tracker database. Maybe after we see such a system in operation for awhile, we can start

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Andrew Dunstan wrote: I spent months on a working party on these and similar issues a few years back, in a commercial setting. One of the big issues is when you start tracking something. Bugs are a pretty simple case. Features are much harder to handle. Someone comes up with an idea. There is

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:44 , Tom Lane wrote: OK, so if everyone is leaning to #3, the name game remains to be played. Do we all agree on this: x @ y means x contains y x @ y means x is contained in y Are we all prepared to sign a solemn oath to commit hara-kiri if we invent a

Re: [HACKERS] Developer's Wiki

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 08:30:13PM -0700, Neil Conway wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout said: Ok, it looks like pages can be arranged hierarchically. Well, a prefix like Todo: is not the incantation one needs to use to arrange pages in hierarchies. You probably want / to indicate a subpage:

Re: [HACKERS] gBorg status?

2006-09-04 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Browne Sent: 04 September 2006 03:55 To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] gBorg status? The fact that it has been out for a week, without any public comment

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Andrew - Supernews
On 2006-09-04, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so if everyone is leaning to #3, the name game remains to be played. Do we all agree on this: x @ y means x contains y x @ y means x is contained in y While I suggested something like those, I would also suggest that the

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Matteo Beccati
Tom Lane ha scritto: OK, so if everyone is leaning to #3, the name game remains to be played. Do we all agree on this: x @ y means x contains y x @ y means x is contained in y Are we all prepared to sign a solemn oath to commit hara-kiri if we invent a new datatype that gets

Re: [HACKERS] Optimizing prepared statements

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:12:13AM +0700, Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: As I've said before, all this falls down if there is a significant cost to keeping one or two extra plans per prepared statement. You mentioned something about tracking plans. I don't know what that means, but it sounded

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Gregory Stark
Matteo Beccati [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane ha scritto: OK, so if everyone is leaning to #3, the name game remains to be played. Do we all agree on this: x @ y means x contains y x @ y means x is contained in y Are we all prepared to sign a solemn oath to commit hara-kiri

Re: [HACKERS] GRANT role docs inconsistency

2006-09-04 Thread Magnus Hagander
GRANT role [, ...] TO { username | GROUP groupname | PUBLIC } [, ...] [ WITH ADMIN OPTION ] It doesn't say that anymore: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-committers/2006- 08/msg00034.php Pfft. I need to remember to check development docs as well :-) sorry about the noise.

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] WIP archive_timeout patch

2006-09-04 Thread Simon Riggs
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 08:52 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Simon Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 19:11 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I noticed a minor annoyance while testing: when the system is completely idle, you get a forced segment switch every checkpoint_timeout seconds, even

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres tracking - the pgtrack project

2006-09-04 Thread Magnus Hagander
Right now, the release notes show a list of all the significant items in each release, but it isn't available until the release, and it isn't complete (because it would be unreadable by ordinary users). And there is no tracking of individual items in progress except by individual developers.

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Gregory Stark
Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matteo Beccati [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane ha scritto: x @ y means x is contained in y ltree @ ltree If you consider ltree entries to be sets containing all their children then those sound consistent. Oops, sorry for the noise.

Re: [HACKERS] autoconf version for back branches?

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Montag, 4. September 2006 03:57 schrieb Andrew Dunstan: Ah! Thanks! What had failed for me was just running with /path/to/old/autoconf - this one works however. Strange that a config package can't work out where its own installed files are. I had that fixed in Autoconf a while back for this

Re: [HACKERS] python / 7.4 / FC5 / x86_64

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Montag, 4. September 2006 04:06 schrieb Andrew Dunstan: Patch attached - seems to work on my FC5/x86_64 box. Also contains the OSX fix backported. Not sure that it qualifies as small though :-) It looks pretty scary to me. Didn't we say once that we don't want to backport fixes for

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Montag, 4. September 2006 04:10 schrieb Bruce Momjian: Are you saying you don't like the patch, That's it. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives?

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Montag, 4. September 2006 04:19 schrieb Bruce Momjian: And our email threads wander around quite a bit, with patches, ideas, and bugs sometimes all thrown in --- see the interval multiplication/division thread as a good example. How do you capture that? It's easy: Those who put in the

[HACKERS] TODO Item : GRANT/REVOKE to all schema objects

2006-09-04 Thread Gevik Babakhani
Folks, Because of a broken wrist, I won't be able to type much. 1. Is there any discussion being going to regrading the: %Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema objects with one command 2. I took a brief look at gramm.y, would it be okay to create a new section like

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Interval month, week - day

2006-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 10:21:11PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: When I tried the ecpg regression tests it complained there was no results/ directory. I created one and it worked. Hmm, anyone else experiencing this? The pg_regress.sh has this code that should create it: outputdir=results/ if [

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas DCP SD
x @ y means x is contained in y ltree @ ltree If you consider ltree entries to be sets containing all their children then those sound consistent. Now we get to decide whether @ was better than the now proposed @ :-) I like @. (or we stay clear by using the inet ops)

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Documentation fix for --with-ldap

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Montag, 4. September 2006 10:23 schrieb Albe Laurenz: This is just a 'one line' change in the documentation of the --with-ldap flag of ./configure Well, if you want to link from the configure option to the place where the feature is explained, then that should be done consistently for all

Re: [HACKERS] insert/update/delete returning and rules

2006-09-04 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas DCP SD
With this approach, you still have to update your rules if you want to support RETURNING on your views --- but if you don't update them, you don't have a security hole. Basically the standard setup for an updatable view would use ON INSERT DO INSTEAD INSERT INTO ... RETURNING ...

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] possible ecpg vpath build error

2006-09-04 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Sep 4, 2006, at 13:12 , Tom Lane wrote: Michael Glaesemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the record, the error I'm getting is Makefile:3: ../../../src/Makefile.global: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target `../../../src/Makefile.global'. Stop. From which Makefile

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Matteo Beccati
Hi, Oh, I hadn't noticed that ltree spells it @ rather than @. I'd be inclined to stick with the ltree precedent. This was exactly my implicit proposal :) Best regards -- Matteo Beccati http://phpadsnew.com http://phppgads.com ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Interval month, week - day

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 10:21:11PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: When I tried the ecpg regression tests it complained there was no results/ directory. I created one and it worked. Hmm, anyone else experiencing this? The pg_regress.sh has this code that

Re: [HACKERS] python / 7.4 / FC5 / x86_64

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Montag, 4. September 2006 04:06 schrieb Andrew Dunstan: Patch attached - seems to work on my FC5/x86_64 box. Also contains the OSX fix backported. Not sure that it qualifies as small though :-) It looks pretty scary to me. Didn't we say once

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Matteo Beccati [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane ha scritto: OK, so if everyone is leaning to #3, the name game remains to be played. Do we all agree on this: x @ y means x contains y x @ y means x is contained in y Does this mean that also contrib/ltree operators will likely change for

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Documentation fix for --with-ldap

2006-09-04 Thread Albe Laurenz
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Montag, 4. September 2006 10:23 schrieb Albe Laurenz: This is just a 'one line' change in the documentation of the --with-ldap flag of ./configure Well, if you want to link from the configure option to the place where the feature is explained, then that should be

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Glaesemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Assuming the meaning of contains and is contained in is inclusive (rather than strict), then we'd have a = b : a contains b a = b : a is contained by b I don't think we can consider that, because we already have and operators meaning is left

[HACKERS] Planner estimates and cast operations ,...

2006-09-04 Thread Hans-Juergen Schoenig
i am looking at some corner case which might also cause troubles for other people. consider the following: SELECT some_timestamp::date FROM very_large_table GROUP BY some_timestamp::date my very_large_table is around 1billion entries. the problem is: the planner has a problem here as it

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew - Supernews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2006-09-04, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we all agree on this: x @ y means x contains y x @ y means x is contained in y While I suggested something like those, I would also suggest that the existing operators for inet/cidr be taken

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] possible ecpg vpath build error

2006-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 12:06:02AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Michael Glaesemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a lot of duplicate code in ecpg. No kidding :-(. The parser is bad enough but the datatype library is an order of magnitude worse. I don't have a great solution at hand though.

Re: [HACKERS] Planner estimates and cast operations ,...

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Hans-Juergen Schoenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: consider the following: SELECT some_timestamp::date FROM very_large_table GROUP BY some_timestamp::date my very_large_table is around 1billion entries. the problem is: the planner has a problem here as it is taking the (correct)

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] possible ecpg vpath build error

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 12:06:02AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: The backend utils/adt/ code gets to rely on the backend's error handling and memory management protocols, which I surely do not propose to remove, but how could we keep common sources when

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. regards, tom lane

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Sep 4, 2006, at 23:45 , Tom Lane wrote: x = y x contains y x y x strictly contains y x = y x is contained in y x y x is strictly contained in y (I'd be fine with Andrew's versions. I probably picked them up from his ip4r code, now that I think about it.) As I commented

Re: [HACKERS] @ versus ~, redux

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Glaesemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ] x = y x contains y x y x strictly contains y x = y x is contained in y x y x is strictly contained in y (I'd be fine with Andrew's versions. I probably picked them up from his ip4r code, now that I think

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Oh, lots of grunt work. I can see that working, but at a high cost. I doubt it. Let's just start with bugs, since that's the easy case anyway. Our real volume is pretty low, so the cost of

Re: [HACKERS] Planner estimates and cast operations ,...

2006-09-04 Thread Hans-Juergen Schoenig
hi tom ... i thought about creating an index on the expression but the problem is that this is hardly feasable. in 8.0 (what i have here) this would block the table and i would run out of disk space as well. this is a 600 gb biest :( what about the planner approach? this would solve the

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh, I have a problem with the README copyright: +sslinfo - information about current SSL certificate for PostgreSQL +== +Copyright (c) 2006 Cryptocom LTD Speaking of

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Without a reply from Peter, I have to assume the patch is valid. To make it more explicit: I think the patch is stupid, but if someone wants to review it, go ahead. But I am not comfortable with the if no one objects, I'll

Re: [HACKERS] Optimizing prepared statements

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Jeroen T. Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, September 3, 2006 23:52, Tom Lane wrote: What exactly do you mean by optimize away a parameter? The way you described the mechanism, there are no parameters that are optimized away, you've merely adjusted selectivity predictions using some

Re: [HACKERS] Hierarchical Queries--Status

2006-09-04 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 22:46 -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote: On 8/26/06, Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I was thinking in the design rather than the code ... Doh! We hadn't posted the design just yet. Let me write him and see where he's at and we'll throw something together

Re: [HACKERS] Planner estimates and cast operations ,...

2006-09-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 17:19:37 +0200, Hans-Juergen Schoenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought about creating an index on the expression but the problem is that this is hardly feasable. in 8.0 (what i have here) this would block the table and i would run That may be hard to deal

Re: [HACKERS] Planner estimates and cast operations ,...

2006-09-04 Thread Hans-Juergen Schoenig
On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 17:19:37 +0200, Hans-Juergen Schoenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought about creating an index on the expression but the problem is that this is hardly feasable. in 8.0 (what i have here) this would block the

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Backend SSL configuration enhancement

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This has been saved for the 8.3 release: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches_hold This version was withdrawn by the author for rework, no? regards, tom lane ---(end of

[HACKERS] Stopgap solution for ILIKE in multibyte encodings

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
I've gotten a little tired of reading reports that ILIKE doesn't work as expected in UTF8. The problem is that iwchareq() in like.c is several bricks shy of a load, as noticed e.g. here http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-10/msg1.php I looked a little bit at making iwchareq less

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Without a reply from Peter, I have to assume the patch is valid. To make it more explicit: I think the patch is stupid, but if someone wants to review it, go ahead. But I am not comfortable with the if no

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh, I have a problem with the README copyright: +sslinfo - information about current SSL certificate for PostgreSQL +== +Copyright (c) 2006 Cryptocom LTD

Re: [HACKERS] Stopgap solution for ILIKE in multibyte encodings

2006-09-04 Thread Guillaume Smet
Tom, On 9/4/06, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose that for ILIKE in multibyte encodings, we just pass the strings through lower() and then use the normal LIKE code. This will be a bit slower than what we do now, but as a wise man once said, code can be arbitrarily fast if it needn't

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. Another one of those

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: How many times do I have to say this: IT IS NOT A REFACTOR PATCH AS REPORTED BY THE AUTHOR, AND PETER HAS NOT REFUTED THAT. The initial patch was the feature plus some code refactoring included. That was what the author said. I asked him to submit the refactoring and

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Speaking of which, has anyone checked the copyrights on the other proposed-for-inclusion contrib modules? Uh, what other ones? I see none in the patch queue. http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2006-09/msg00050.php

Re: [HACKERS] Planner estimates and cast operations ,...

2006-09-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:09:16 +0200, Hans-Juergen Schoenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: setting work_mem to 2gb does not help here ;) set it to the max value on 8.0. this was my first try too. the problem is - there is no magic switch to mislead the planner a little without hacking the

Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: How many times do I have to say this: IT IS NOT A REFACTOR PATCH AS REPORTED BY THE AUTHOR, AND PETER HAS NOT REFUTED THAT. The initial patch was the feature plus some code refactoring included. That was what the author said. I asked him to

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Speaking of which, has anyone checked the copyrights on the other proposed-for-inclusion contrib modules? Uh, what other ones? I see none in the patch queue.

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Speaking of which, has anyone checked the copyrights on the other proposed-for-inclusion contrib modules? The new ISBN is the only open one. hstore hasn't had enough requests for inclusion. Really? A quick search of the archives

Re: [HACKERS] Stopgap solution for ILIKE in multibyte encodings

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Guillaume Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/4/06, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose that for ILIKE in multibyte encodings, we just pass the strings through lower() and then use the normal LIKE code. Perhaps it's a stupid question but what about the indexes? An index on

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Speaking of which, has anyone checked the copyrights on the other proposed-for-inclusion contrib modules? Uh, what other ones? I see none in the patch queue.

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] setseed() doc

2006-09-04 Thread Dennis Bjorklund
Tom Lane skrev: entryliteralfunctionsetseed/function(typedp/type)/literal/entry entrytypeint/type/entry - entryset seed for subsequent literalrandom()/literal calls/entry + entryset seed for subsequent literalrandom()/literal calls (value between -1.0 and

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Speaking of which, has anyone checked the copyrights on the other proposed-for-inclusion contrib modules? The new ISBN is the only open one. hstore hasn't had enough requests for inclusion. Really? A quick

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Speaking of which, has anyone checked the copyrights on the other proposed-for-inclusion contrib modules? Uh, what other ones? I see none in the patch queue.

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] setseed() doc

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Dennis Bjorklund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: entryliteralfunctionsetseed/function(typedp/type)/literal/entry entrytypeint/type/entry - entryset seed for subsequent literalrandom()/literal calls/entry + entryset seed for subsequent literalrandom()/literal calls

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] setseed() doc

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Dennis Bjorklund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about the return value? The doc didn't say anything about it. AFAICT it's just junk. It happens to be the input times MAX_RANDOM_VALUE, but what use is that? I wonder if we shouldn't change the function to return VOID ... that option wasn't

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Have psql show current sequnce values - (Resubmission)

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Dhanaraj M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for resubmitting this patch. Just now I found a problem. Instead of assigning initial sequence value to 1, I assign LLONG_MAX to avoid the buffer overflow problem. Please find the current version here. This patch is a mess. In the first place, it's

Re: [HACKERS] TODO Item : GRANT/REVOKE to all schema objects

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Gevik Babakhani wrote: Folks, Because of a broken wrist, I won't be able to type much. 1. Is there any discussion being going to regrading the: %Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema objects with one command No. 2. I took a brief look at gramm.y, would it be

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the author. I got it this

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Patch has applied this patch. Thanks. --- Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Dienstag, 22. August 2006 02:52 schrieb Bruce Momjian: This seems like a nice /contrib module. Your patch has been added to the PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] Sorry about the GIN docs :(

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Patch applied. Thanks. --- Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Hi guys, I've attached as much as I've done so far on the GIN docs. It's not a lot, but I'm afraid with the feature freeze in effect, I'm just not going to

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Contrib module to examine client

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruce Momjian wrote: Patch has applied this patch. Thanks. Sorry typo: Peter has applied this patch. Thanks. --- --- Peter Eisentraut

[HACKERS] Open items

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
I should have a list of open items for 8.2 within 24 hours. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't

Re: [HACKERS] Hierarchical Queries--Status

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 05:15:57PM +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: 3) Add planner support so that WITH clauses are mapped to a new type of node that utilises two tuplestores - an output tuplestore and a working tuplestore. The output tuple store will in effect be the contents of the table

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a copyright assignment out of the

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, the code is released under BSD license, so why is it important if it says Copyright Foo, Inc or something else? Because every so often we get pestered by lawyers who get worried when there's a collection of random different copyright notices in the

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get a

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Interval month, week - day

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 10:21:11PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: When I tried the ecpg regression tests it complained there was no results/ directory. I created one and it worked. Hmm, anyone else experiencing this? The

Re: [HACKERS] Fix linking of OpenLDAP libraries

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Albe Laurenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # The backend doesn't need everything that's in LIBS, however ! LIBS := $(filter-out -lz -lreadline -ledit -ltermcap -lncurses -lcurses -lldap_r $(PTHREAD_LIBS), $(LIBS)) This seems pretty risky. What if PTHREAD_LIBS contains -L switches? They'd get

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Backend SSL configuration enhancement

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This has been saved for the 8.3 release: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches_hold This version was withdrawn by the author for rework, no? Right, and the thread in patches_hold shows that. The reason it is in there

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module -

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Bruce Momjian wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Eisentraut) writes: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was premature to add this: Bruce is still trying to get

[HACKERS] FE/BE protocol vs. parameterized queries

2006-09-04 Thread Andrew - Supernews
Picking out a specific point from the thread on prepared queries: Currently, the handling of Parse/Bind on the unnamed statement seems to go like this: - Parse on the unnamed statement does analysis and rewriting but does not plan, storing the query in a special memory context dedicated to

Re: [HACKERS] FE/BE protocol vs. parameterized queries

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew - Supernews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe this could usefully (and transparently to clients) be changed so that Bind on the unnamed statement does _not_ store the plan back in the unnamed statement's context, but instead produces a plan which is only used _for that specific

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Sequences were not being shown due to the use of lowercase 's'

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) writes: Sequences were not being shown due to the use of lowercase 's' instead of 'S', and the views were not checking for table visibility with regards to temporary tables and sequences. What became of my objection that the test should be on USAGE privilege

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Sequences were not being shown due to

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) writes: Sequences were not being shown due to the use of lowercase 's' instead of 'S', and the views were not checking for table visibility with regards to temporary tables and sequences. What became of my objection that the test should

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Documentation fix for --with-ldap

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Albe Laurenz wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Montag, 4. September 2006 10:23 schrieb Albe Laurenz: This is just a 'one line' change in the documentation of the --with-ldap flag of ./configure Well, if you want to link from the configure option to the place where the feature is

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Trivial patch to double vacuum speed on tables with no indexes

2006-09-04 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Gregory Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patch applied. Thanks. Wait a minute. This patch changes the behavior so that LockBufferForCleanup is applied to *every* heap page, not only the ones where

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Log Message: --- sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL certificate Author: Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems to have broken the bustard buildfarm member, which uses VPATH IIRC: make[1]: Leaving directory

Re: [HACKERS] Unable to post to -patches (was: Visual C++

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Patch applied. Placed in src/tools/msvc. Thanks. --- Magnus Hagander wrote: a.hub.org[200.46.208.251], delay=1, status=sent (250 2.7.1 Ok, discarded, id=258 35-09 - BANNED: P=p003,L=1,M=multipart/mixed |

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Trivial patch to double vacuum speed

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Patch applied. Thanks. --- Gregory Stark wrote: Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason the patch is so short is that it's a kluge. If we really cared about supporting this case, more wide-ranging changes

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Trivial patch to double vacuum speed on tables with no indexes

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patch applied. Thanks. Wait a minute. This patch changes the behavior so that LockBufferForCleanup is applied to *every* heap page, not only the ones where there are removable tuples. It's not hard to imagine scenarios where that results in severe

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Trivial patch to double vacuum speed

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patch applied. Thanks. Wait a minute. This patch changes the behavior so that LockBufferForCleanup is applied to *every* heap page, not only the ones where there are removable tuples. It's not hard to imagine scenarios where that

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] setseed() doc

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Dennis Bjorklund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: entryliteralfunctionsetseed/function(typedp/type)/literal/entry entrytypeint/type/entry - entryset seed for subsequent literalrandom()/literal calls/entry + entryset seed for subsequent

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Trivial patch to double vacuum speed on tables with no indexes

2006-09-04 Thread Gregory Stark
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patch applied. Thanks. Wait a minute. This patch changes the behavior so that LockBufferForCleanup is applied to *every* heap page, not only the ones where there are removable tuples.

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] plpgsql, return can contains any expression

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Pavel Stehule [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This patch allows using any row expression in return statement and does transformation from untyped row to composite types if it's necessary. This patch doesn't seem to cope with cases where the supplied tuple has the wrong number of columns, and it

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Sequences were not being shown due to the use of lowercase `s`

2006-09-04 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote: Sequences were not being shown due to the use of lowercase 's' instead of 'S', and the views were not checking for table visibility with regards to temporary tables and sequences. Tom Lane replied: What became of my objection that the

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: sslinfo contrib module - information about current SSL

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This seems to have broken the bustard buildfarm member, which uses VPATH IIRC: Fixed --- I noticed it about the same time you did. I'm surprised Peter didn't get a Makefile right the first time though ... regards, tom lane

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Sequences were not being shown due to the use of lowercase `s`

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Sabino Mullane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane replied: What became of my objection that the test should be on USAGE privilege for the containing schema instead? I took a stab at implementing this, but what exactly would we check? Looks like all the temp tables have automatic usage

[HACKERS] Erratic failures on buildfarm member leveret

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Hey Stefan, could you run some hardware diagnostics on leveret? It's been returning increasingly erratic results over the past few days. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet,

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Trivial patch to double vacuum speed

2006-09-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: I see the no-index case now: + if (nindexes) + LockBuffer(buf, BUFFER_LOCK_SHARE); + else + LockBufferForCleanup(buf); Let's see what Greg says, or revert. Hm, that's a good

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Information schema - finalize key_column_usage

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Sabino Mullane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Attached version should now work properly. Applied, thanks. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] DOC: catalog.sgml

2006-09-04 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 12:01:06AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: But ever since 7.3 the convention for identifying system objects has been pretty well-defined: anything that lives in one of the predefined schemas. What problem were you having using that approach in newsysviews? It was just an issue

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