Hi All,
Are these steps written README file in the PharoVM repo?
e.g. https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/blob/master/README.md
Luc
2014-02-26 21:34 GMT+01:00 jannik laval :
> Yes, but a Pharo1.4
> I tried with a Pharo2.0 but it freezes. Morover, for Pharo2.0 there are
> some changes t
Exactly.
But it is a step.
In a polyglot IT environment (Java , CRuby, Python, Scala, Perl, R...)
there is a place for Pharo I am sure. Especially for dealing with
'meta' things with a fast delivery cycle.
Phil
On Thursday, February 27, 2014, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You will not get pe
On 26 Feb 2014, at 23:08, Nicolas Cellier
wrote:
> That's exactly for this kind of reasons that I developped an
> ExtendedNumberParser connected to Number class>>readFrom:, to allow a variety
> of formats used in the rest of the world.
>
> It would have been easy to allow upper letter expone
On 26 Feb 2014, at 23:03, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote:
> I share the same idiomatic feeling with Norbert.
>
> However it is completely counter-intuitive (and counter productive
> too) that you can't instantiate a DateAndTime using the class side
> builder #date:time:, it is available in Pharo 2.
This is also explained in the gofer chapter in the deepintopharo book
Stef
On 26 Feb 2014, at 22:53, MartinW wrote:
> Gabriel Cotelli-3 wrote
>> I have a whole package history in my local package cache and I want to
>> upload it to a new SmalltalkHub project. I've tried using the Monticello
>>
Hi,
You will not get people to send business ideas in a development list :).
We need to start the conversation of what makes Pharo profitable as opposed
to geeky cool. The mailing is an effort in this direction.
Doru
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote:
> I don't see
Thanks Stef!
Doru
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Pharo4Stef wrote:
> Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
>
> We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that
> it is important to create a community around business questions.
> We created a new mai
Nice. Thanks!
Doru
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> Pharo 3.0 on Mac OS X 10.9
>
> The out of the box experience. Installing and running Pharo 3.0 on a blank
> Mac OS X 10.9 account in 40 seconds.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxljgugI4c4
>
> With 3 extra m
Hello again...
For what occurs in modern CPUs, well, no. Surprising to see that a mul
would be faster than a shr or shl. How comes?
No, not faster. But definitely way faster than >30 cycles not so long ago.
I used to be ok with these things when I was writing demoscene code a
loong time ago
Hello...
On 2/25/14 18:32 , Martin McClure wrote:
Andres and I have an ongoing discussion on this topic. :-)
:)...
And #bitShift *should* be faster.
Ok, but how much faster? 64x64 bit multiplication on modern x86 is just
8 cycles (!), and there will likely be parallelism done by the CPU
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 08:28 +0100, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> You can make it work following the procedure:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNsUiCc5FQ&list=UUul18dYQnhOVMfYFg6YSK4A
Excellent - I'll watch.
> Phil
Steve
Pharo 3.0 on Mac OS X 10.9
The out of the box experience. Installing and running Pharo 3.0 on a blank Mac
OS X 10.9 account in 40 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxljgugI4c4
With 3 extra minutes to demo some networking and image manipulation
interactions.
Sven
--
Sven Van Caekenbe
On 02/26/2014 01:38 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>
> So, of course " Float readFrom: '1.E-02' " -> 1.0
This is because Pharo only accepts lower-case letters for exponent ($e
$d $q). So if you replace E with e Pharo will parse it as you wish.
-Martin
2014-02-26 23:08 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Cellier <
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com>:
> That's exactly for this kind of reasons that I developped an
> ExtendedNumberParser connected to Number class>>readFrom:, to allow a
> variety of formats used in the rest of the world.
>
> It would have been easy t
That's exactly for this kind of reasons that I developped an
ExtendedNumberParser connected to Number class>>readFrom:, to allow a
variety of formats used in the rest of the world.
It would have been easy to allow upper letter exponents in this parser, but
the class was considered superfluous and
I share the same idiomatic feeling with Norbert.
However it is completely counter-intuitive (and counter productive
too) that you can't instantiate a DateAndTime using the class side
builder #date:time:, it is available in Pharo 2.0, but #date:time: was
removed in a 3.0 image I tried a month ago.
Can you tell what these sparklines have to do with unicode?
Btw. I would like to attend this unicode workshop :)
Norbert
Am 26.02.2014 um 21:40 schrieb Alexandre Bergel :
> Hi!
>
> I am playing with unicode characters:
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Gofer new
> url: 'http://smal
Gabriel Cotelli-3 wrote
> I have a whole package history in my local package cache and I want to
> upload it to a new SmalltalkHub project. I've tried using the Monticello
> browser but it insists in creating a new version of the package when I do
> the "Save" to the new repository.
>
> Is there s
Everything is ready to do just that, see
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12197/should-remove-TimeStamp
we just decided not to do the actual removal for 3.0
On 26 Feb 2014, at 21:29, Pharo4Stef wrote:
> one of these days we will have to remove TimeStamp because it just adds noise
> to the sy
Hi guys,
When I export SmallDoubles with SIXX in GemStone it generates something
like this:
1.E-02
This is because "0.01 asString" -> '1.E-02'
Then I want to load this in Pharo. So first problem is that of course
SmallDouble doesn't exist. So I did:
aSixxShapeCh
Thank you Max, works like a charm!
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Max Leske wrote:
> On 26.02.2014, at 22:03, Gabriel Cotelli wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have a whole package history in my local package cache and I want to
> upload it to a new SmalltalkHub project. I've tried using the Monticello
On 26.02.2014, at 22:03, Gabriel Cotelli wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a whole package history in my local package cache and I want to upload
> it to a new SmalltalkHub project. I've tried using the Monticello browser but
> it insists in creating a new version of the package when I do the "Save" to
>
Am 26.02.2014 um 22:00 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Am 26.02.2014 um 21:37 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>>
>> Am 26.02.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Maria
On 26.02.2014, at 21:40, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am playing with unicode characters:
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Gofer new
> url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/abergel/Sparkline/main';
> addPackage: 'Sparkline';
> load.
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
I don't see the point of having another list, I don't see many
business related topics going on in the dev or users lists. In fact
they have moderate traffic (and could even converge).
However, if the idea is to foster business talk, maybe a separate list is okay.
I'm in.
Esteban A. Maringolo
2
Hi,
I have a whole package history in my local package cache and I want to
upload it to a new SmalltalkHub project. I've tried using the Monticello
browser but it insists in creating a new version of the package when I do
the "Save" to the new repository.
Is there some option to do something like
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Am 26.02.2014 um 21:37 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck <
> marianop...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 26.02.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck <
>> marianop...@gmail.com>:
>>
Am 26.02.2014 um 21:37 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Am 26.02.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>>
>> Am 26.02.2014 um 14:38 schrieb Maria
there is nothing already done for lists in any smalltalk??
2014-02-26 21:41 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl :
>
> Am 26.02.2014 um 21:33 schrieb askoh :
>
> > We should use something Smalltalk Powered instead of Python Powered for
> the
> > list.
> >
> I like to completely disagree. If you need to writ
Make a list where the main point is about industry issues, share knowledge
and experience about general implications of pharo in a full project.
Recommend frameworks for specific domains. And then also soft knowledge,
know who is working with pharo in business to know to who ask for help in
case of
Am 26.02.2014 um 21:33 schrieb askoh :
> We should use something Smalltalk Powered instead of Python Powered for the
> list.
>
I like to completely disagree. If you need to write every software in your own
language before you can use it you won’t achieve much IMHO. There is pretty
decent softw
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Am 26.02.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck <
> marianop...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 26.02.2014 um 14:38 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck <
>> marianop...@gmail.com>:
>>
2014-02-26 17:33 GMT-03:00 askoh :
> We should use something Smalltalk Powered instead of Python Powered for the
> list.
What would we gain out of that?
Esteban A. Maringolo
Am 26.02.2014 um 21:29 schrieb Pharo4Stef :
> one of these days we will have to remove TimeStamp because it just adds noise
> to the system (in fact I would not have any problem to see DateAndTime
> renamed as timestamp - but having the two for nothing looks useless to me).
+100
I don’t reall
Yes, but a Pharo1.4
I tried with a Pharo2.0 but it freezes. Morover, for Pharo2.0 there are
some changes to do to download all the stuff.
Here is the process for Pharo 1.4:
git clone https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git
cd pharo-vm/image/
./newImage.sh ==> it load a pharo20
./pharo
We should use something Smalltalk Powered instead of Python Powered for the
list.
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View this message in context:
http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Business-a-new-mailing-list-tp4746585p4746618.html
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Am 26.02.2014 um 21:21 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Am 26.02.2014 um 14:38 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>> Just be careful 2: "I switched one of my servers to dump to stack with fuel
>> to disk if an exception occur
one of these days we will have to remove TimeStamp because it just adds noise
to the system (in fact I would not have any problem to see DateAndTime renamed
as timestamp - but having the two for nothing looks useless to me).
Stef
Hi Stef,
Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?
I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo?
Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).
Thank you!
Regards!
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef :
> Dear Pharoers and Smalltalker
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Am 26.02.2014 um 14:38 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck <
> marianop...@gmail.com>:
>
> Just be careful 2: "I switched one of my servers to dump to stack with
> fuel to disk if an exception occurs. "
> Once it happened to me the stack I was
I'm in :)
2014-02-26 20:05 GMT+01:00 Pharo4Stef :
> Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
>
> We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that
> it is important to create a community around business questions.
> We created a new mailing-list
>
>
> http:
So, can we have Pharo on the iphone and ipad?
Alexandre
On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:33 AM, jannik laval wrote:
> Thank you Esteban,
> It works. I failed probably because I did not remove the app in the simulator.
>
> Thank you again.
>
> Jannik
>
>
> 2014-02-25 13:26 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano
On 2014-02-26, at 17:47, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
> Thanks for that info Max. I can see "Files to archive" in the PharoLauncher
> configuration that I have access to. I don't have access to the
> configuration of Pharo-3.0-Issue-Validator to check, but I guess it should
> have an entry...
On 2014-02-26, at 19:11, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
> Camillo Bruni wrote:
>> On 2014-02-25, at 17:04, b...@openinworld.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'd like to better understand the semantics of "expected failures" in
>>> TestRunner. It seems to me that if you want to ensure that a certai
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it
is important to create a community around business questions.
We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business
you can set the quality of the streaming clicking the gear button and also
set it permanently for all videos in the youtube settings.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:18 PM, wrote:
> Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> On 26 Feb 2014, at 17:21, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Nice initiative - but
Am 26.02.2014 um 14:38 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck :
> Just be careful 2: "I switched one of my servers to dump to stack with fuel
> to disk if an exception occurs. "
> Once it happened to me the stack I was taking for serializing an error was
> too big. Too big because it even reached the U
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 26 Feb 2014, at 17:21, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
Nice initiative - but up to about 50 seconds the image is so compressed it is unreadable.
cheers -ben
No, it's not. The movie is properly HD, 720p (1280 px × 720 px). YouTube automaticall
Camillo Bruni wrote:
On 2014-02-25, at 17:04, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
I'd like to better understand the semantics of "expected failures" in TestRunner. It seems to me that if you want to ensure that a certain operation fails, in a test you'd wrap it as follows...
shouldFai
interesting
So far I’m using the sringify-ed walkbacks in emails, but (if the
materializable dump isn’t too big) it would definitively be cool to have it.
Made me think, thanks for sharing Norbert & friends
On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
> Here the code operates on a sh
Hi Esteban,
find attached. Let me know of any problems.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo
wrote:
> Hi Eliot,
>
>
> 2013-11-30 18:30 GMT-03:00 Eliot Miranda :
> > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <
> emaring...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> 2013/11/29 E
On 26.02.2014, at 17:47, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
> Thanks for that info Max. I can see "Files to archive" in the PharoLauncher
> configuration that I have access to. I don't have access to the
> configuration of Pharo-3.0-Issue-Validator to check, but I guess it should
> have an entry...
Which Ruby guru an Python guru is going to give it a shot? [I am a Tcl
guy... hey, that's an everything is a string language... ] Oh well, I
started something:
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/StringTclShim
So, who is taking StringRubyShim and StringPythonShim :-p ?
Phil
On Wed, F
Thanks for that info Max. I can see "Files to archive" in the
PharoLauncher configuration that I
have access to. I don't have access to the configuration of
Pharo-3.0-Issue-Validator
to check, but I guess it should have an entry...
**/*/*.fuel
to gather fuel files from the subdirectories
+1 00
S
On 26 Feb 2014, at 09:57, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/in-praise-of-small-commits/240166249?elq=a0ee24c4d39d4741ae4deddd44b0ed90&elqCampaignId=190
>
>
> << With smaller commits, teams accelerate code reviews and builds, while
>
Hi Eliot,
2013-11-30 18:30 GMT-03:00 Eliot Miranda :
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo
> wrote:
>> 2013/11/29 Eliot Miranda :
>> > I'll either prepare a change set or submit. It'll get done.
>> I can continue stepping into until the change is ready.
>> Please make it co
On 26 Feb 2014, at 17:21, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
> Nice initiative - but up to about 50 seconds the image is so compressed it is
> unreadable.
> cheers -ben
No, it's not. The movie is properly HD, 720p (1280 px × 720 px). YouTube
automatically adapts the quality setting depending on the q
Nice initiative - but up to about 50 seconds the image is so compressed
it is unreadable.
cheers -ben
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Pharo 3.0 on Windows 8.1
Installing and running Pharo 3.0 on a blank Windows 8.1 machine in under 1
minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKokxrQtrg0
With an
On 2014-02-26, at 03:53, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>
>
> 2014-02-25 8:49 GMT-03:00 p...@highoctane.be :
> Yes but... in Pharo strings are collections and a ton of things can be done
> with collections already.
> Other languages have more "basic" strings and are cutting them in all ways
On 2014-02-25, at 17:04, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
> I'd like to better understand the semantics of "expected failures" in
> TestRunner. It seems to me that if you want to ensure that a certain
> operation fails, in a test you'd wrap it as follows...
>
> shouldFailed=false.
> [ self ope
Beautiful!
Doru
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> Pharo 3.0 on Windows 8.1
>
> Installing and running Pharo 3.0 on a blank Windows 8.1 machine in under 1
> minute.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKokxrQtrg0
>
> With an extra minute to demo some elementary inte
Pharo 3.0 on Windows 8.1
Installing and running Pharo 3.0 on a blank Windows 8.1 machine in under 1
minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKokxrQtrg0
With an extra minute to demo some elementary interactions.
Sven
--
Sven Van Caekenberghe
Proudly supporting Pharo
http://pharo.org
http://ass
Pharo 3.0 on Windows 8.1
Installing and running Pharo 3.0 on a blank Windows 8.1 machine in under 1
minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKokxrQtrg0
With an extra minute to demo some basic interactions.
Sven
--
Sven Van Caekenberghe
Proudly supporting Pharo
http://pharo.org
http://associat
http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/in-praise-of-small-commits/240166249?elq=a0ee24c4d39d4741ae4deddd44b0ed90&elqCampaignId=190
<< With smaller commits, teams accelerate code reviews and builds, while
shrinking the delay between committing and feedback. That's a lot of payback
for
Here the code operates on a shared queue
EventDispatcher>>#consumeQueue
| block |
[ true ] whileTrue: [
block := queue next.
[ block value ]
on: Error
do: [ :err |
self s
Hi,
I tend to wrap then like this:
[ self operationThatShouldFail.
self fail: 'why!'.
] on: Error do: [
"check that is the right error"
]
> -Mensaje original-
> De: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] En nombre de
> Pharo4Stef
> Enviado el: Martes, 25 de Febrero de 2
Ok, thank you, I will check that.
-- Pavel
2014-02-26 14:40 GMT+01:00 Stephan Eggermont :
> This doesn't work on a mac (running Mavericks)
>
> c := PipeableOSProcess command: 'cd PhobosDemo.app/Contents; mkdir
> Frameworks; cd Frameworks; tar -jxvf ../../../xulrunner.tar.bz2'.
>
Eliot wrote
>But the real things to learn are the Method Finder and the browser.
In case you are wondering why no beginner seems to know about Method Finder:
Your post made me take a look at it for the first time (after near a decade of
smalltalk). Interesting class comment. I’m pretty sure no b
Pharo is Cool. Definitely.
How do you set up the "fuel dump"?
This morning I woke up with a "out of memory" crash (the first crash
in two months), and going through the .log file didn't help much.
Regards!
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 10:01 GMT-03:00 Norbert Hartl :
> The best smalltalk/p
This doesn’t work on a mac (running Mavericks)
c := PipeableOSProcess command: 'cd PhobosDemo.app/Contents; mkdir Frameworks;
cd Frameworks; tar -jxvf ../../../xulrunner.tar.bz2'.
Just be careful 2: "I switched one of my servers to dump to stack with
fuel to disk if an exception occurs. "
Once it happened to me the stack I was taking for serializing an error was
too big. Too big because it even reached the UI. The UI has lots of
sensible objects that change quite frequently
Am 26.02.2014 um 14:19 schrieb Max Leske :
> Cool! :)
>
> Just be careful: if you’re using a large model the stack can blow up your
> image with a low space warning / make it inresponsive (because the stack
> referenes your model and boom, pretty much all of your instances will becom
> serial
Cool! :)
Just be careful: if you’re using a large model the stack can blow up your image
with a low space warning / make it inresponsive (because the stack referenes
your model and boom, pretty much all of your instances will becom serialized).
FYI we’re actively working on pruning of the seri
The best smalltalk/pharo moments you get if you try things you want to have
just in order to see they are already there.
Today FileBrowser.
I switched one of my servers to dump to stack with fuel to disk if an exception
occurs. Today I copied the files from the server to my local machine and ope
Hi Alexandre,
there are some bundles based on Pharo 2.0 on the CI:
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phobos/. They work slightly
differently because Pharo server is started by the JavaScript client
internally. It's not so easy then to modify Smalltalk sources mainly on
Mac.
I'm not sure
Thank you Esteban,
It works. I failed probably because I did not remove the app in the
simulator.
Thank you again.
Jannik
2014-02-25 13:26 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
> btw what can be happening is that xcode fails to build freetype2.
> the way to workaround this problem is:
>
> first, build
Hello,
Le 25 févr. 2014 à 16:53, Damien Cassou a écrit :
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>> Is it possible to receive an email when the build of the project I
>> registered turns to unstable?
>
> yes, just add a post build action "Email notification" and put your
> emai
Ah, yes, I saw that in the README but haven't yet been able to get the Sim
to work.
Have you?
Phil
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> Yes it is. Take a look at the readme :)
>
> On 26 Feb 2014, at 08:28, "p...@highoctane.be" wrote:
>
> You can make it work following t
Yes it is. Take a look at the readme :)
> On 26 Feb 2014, at 08:28, "p...@highoctane.be" wrote:
>
> You can make it work following the procedure:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNsUiCc5FQ&list=UUul18dYQnhOVMfYFg6YSK4A
>
> I don't know if you will have to mess with the Xcode project afterwar
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