Re: [Pharo-project] Differential and Integral calculus in Pharo?

2012-08-05 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
short of symbolic manipulation (e.g. maple), all we do is discretize and approximate, right? Integration (aka quadrature) is "easy" but numerical diff is very unstable. ODEs solve well w/ Runge-Kutta methods. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr

[Pharo-project] Config browser

2012-08-05 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Just getting to 1.4 summer (apologies to those down under) and noted a long list of configs that seem to load cleanly - huge progress!!

[Pharo-project] ODBC schema acess - please test

2012-08-05 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
see OdbcConnection>>tables, #columnsForTable:owner:, #serverName, etc. DolphinCompatibility-ODBC-BillSchwab.1.mcz Description: DolphinCompatibility-ODBC-BillSchwab.1.mcz

Re: [Pharo-project] **IMPORTANT** MUST READ: Pharo Association and Consortium

2012-07-01 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, I'll be good for at least 40, maybe 99. Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. DeNigris [s...@clipperadams.com] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:48 PM To: pharo-

Re: [Pharo-project] VM , modules, packages and plugins

2012-06-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I agree, except for silent updates. One should at know what is happening, and further be able to run a "broken" mixture, if only for debugging. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of

Re: [Pharo-project] Do the VM's used on Jenkins include the SSL plugin ?

2012-06-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
+20 :) From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Igor Stasenko [siguc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:48 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-proj

Re: [Pharo-project] Zinc intermittently returning nil

2012-06-26 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I know *nothing* about Zinc, but my first thought is weak collections and how they are not thread safe (which they need to be) and are not self-repairing after finalization - they end up w/ retained nils. Dolphin blazed the correct trail on this in the mid to late 90s.

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
+1 on not adding syntax. Never do to a language that which can be done with the language. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of James Foster [smallt...@jgfoster.net] Sent: Tuesday

Re: [Pharo-project] Code completion in all tools

2012-06-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Have a look at codeCompletionAround: textMorph:keyStroke: HTH, Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. DeNigris [s...@clipperadams.com] Sent: Friday, June 22, 20

Re: [Pharo-project] New System Progress Bar

2012-06-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Events are preferable to exceptions for updating the bar. Exceptions should be reserved for things that are exceptional :) Event registrations should be weak so that one *can* set and forget, but one should also be able to explicitly unregister if desired/needed. I will also take this opportu

Re: [Pharo-project] Jenkins down?

2012-06-17 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Looks that way from here (Florida). From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of p...@highoctane.be [p...@highoctane.be] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 3:49 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.in

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-17 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I have been a vocal critic of configs, largely on grounds of excessive complexity, but I find your message a bit harsh. Long delays and hangs are BAD, but that can be addressed using background threads. This is a prime example of why say that sockets should never block the entire image (only c

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-17 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
+1 From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Igor Stasenko [siguc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:48 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] st

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
If it helps at all, I was able (with help) to get sound working on Linux. It's ugly: one has to copy/rename the plugin from another vm (to use cog). Once I got it working, I flagged a copy of the plugin in the hopes of making things easier next time. Bill _

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
ct-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.duca...@inria.fr] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:24 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4 On Jun

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Pharo 1.4 Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote > > But if I'm building a new image *today*, I want it to do the right thing > now (automatically for the current version), with the same incantation as > worked months ago or months from now. Absolutely! Two things about that: * Metacello has no

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
on summer release of Pharo 1.4 Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote > > My gripe is... that configs... work (very) differently over time > With the current evolution of Metacello, this should not be the case. Done right, what a config loads can be 100% static and repeatable. If you load a literal version

Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

2012-06-14 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
My gripe is not so much that configs don't work together, it's that they work (very) differently over time; the work I did "last week" to build an image could be (often is) worthless "today." Configs really need to reflect on versions and do the right thing vs. current complexity. If pre-loadi

Re: [Pharo-project] FileReference should throw error when deleting unexisting files?

2012-06-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I generally default to saying "of course there should be an error." I much prefer to get my bad news early rather than having to fish around or it after the fact. Toward that end, I would recommend having #deleteIfAbsent: and #delete that provides an error-raising block and forwards to #delete

[Pharo-project] 2.0

2012-06-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I grabbed the one-click image and poked around. The worst thing I found (can't reproduce) is that the SB's package list became insensitive to clicks. Switching to groups and then back seemed to restore normal operation. Looks good so far! Bill

Re: [Pharo-project] Jenkins downloads broken?

2012-06-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
: [Pharo-project] Jenkins downloads broken? yes... we are experimenting some infrastructure issues. Please be patient :) Esteban On Jun 7, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > I have been trying to grab 2.0 from Jenkins - no luck. There are long > connection delays and then inco

[Pharo-project] Jenkins downloads broken?

2012-06-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I have been trying to grab 2.0 from Jenkins - no luck. There are long connection delays and then incomplete downloads (512 bytes per file) if it does finally connect. Anybody else seeing this? Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Progress bar in the top left

2012-05-25 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
There are times when it is necessary to protect the user from themselves. Modal to a particular window can be a VERY good thing. Several years ago, I remember watching in horror as my chairman was tinkering with a UI I had created that was not sufficiently modal, and he was at extreme risk of

Re: [Pharo-project] Short rant on platforms and sessions

2012-05-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
It's a nice system - we should take lessons from it where we can. In this case, they *clearly* have it right. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Chris Muller [asquea...@gmail

[Pharo-project] Short rant on platforms and sessions

2012-05-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I've been unable to follow the whole list lately, but I caught some mention of what might be a more toward platform-dependence, or lack of independence. I *like* being able to work on Linux and deploy to Windows. Hopefully we won't lose that. I agree that things should happen in the image far

Re: [Pharo-project] FileList efficiency could hardly be worse

2012-05-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
This is one of those things that I find shocking. Squeak has been around for 15+ years, and still has no efficient way to get files matching a wildcard pattern (I sure couldn't find it), FFI does not (easily) support callbacks, etc. From: pharo-projec

Re: [Pharo-project] Help reading dump?

2012-05-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
alf of Eliot Miranda [eliot.mira...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:58 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Help reading dump? On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: The attached is diagnostic outpu

[Pharo-project] Help reading dump?

2012-05-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
The attached is diagnostic output from the Linux vm. I am doing some iterative numerical analysis that won't always work out, so I expect errors and non-sense results at times - it all depends on whether a particular segment of a signal is clean or noisy; if the latter, all assumptions are off.

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-05-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sounds great!! From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.duca...@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 1:37 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject

Re: [Pharo-project] Enable #alwaysOpenFullDebugger: and fastDragging:

2012-05-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Options are good, but I disagree that always opening a full debugger is a good idea - I've seen meltdowns from less. YMMV. You've been warned :) From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf o

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-30 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
ore visible? Am 30.04.2012 um 00:11 schrieb Schwab,Wilhelm K: > I stayed on 1.1.1 for a long time for just these reasons. If want people to > test new versions, there needs to be at least some hope that they will work. > To be honest I'm not sure if you should upgrade to 1.2. Just

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I stayed on 1.1.1 for a long time for just these reasons. If want people to test new versions, there needs to be at least some hope that they will work. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] o

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-28 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
ject-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. | DeNigris [s...@clipperadams.com] | Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:08 AM | To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration | browser more visible? | | Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote |

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-28 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. DeNigris [s...@clipperadams.com] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:08 AM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible? Schwab,Wilhelm K

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configurationbrowser more visible? On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > I'm simply saying that we have a problem. When I first saw the config > browser, I had hoped that it would bring the problem t

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
g the configuration browser more visible? On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: I know it's not a popular opinion, but overall, they don't work. It is so bad that any effort on my part to fix one here or there would simply be st

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
king the configuration browser more visible? On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: It's nice that there are examples that work, but the vast majority of configs are not so well organized. I'm not the mantainer of the majority o

Re: [Pharo-project] SSL plugin for linux

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Is there an ssl socket/stream to go with it? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Igor Stasenko [siguc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:29 PM To: Squeak Virtual Machine

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
at 5:06 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: Put another way, if it's that simple, why all the contrary instructions over time? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.i

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
pr 27, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: Put another way, if it's that simple, why all the contrary instructions over time? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
April 26, 2012 7:40 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configurationbrowser more visible? On 2012-04-27, at 01:17, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Can they really download stuff? How much? Until the configurations are >

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Camillo Bruni [camillobr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:40 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configurationbrowser more visible? On 2012-04-27, at 01:17, Schwab,Wilh

Re: [Pharo-project] What about making the configuration browser more visible?

2012-04-26 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Can they really download stuff? How much? Until the configurations are truly self-describing and "know" what to use for which version of Pharo[*], the Config Browser is really (sorry guys) a very clear illustration of what we have yet to do in the way of packaging. Bill [*] there needs to be

Re: [Pharo-project] InnoSetup was: RE: One-click Windows comment

2012-04-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] InnoSetup was: RE: One-click Windows comment Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote > > As an aside, it's interesting to see the term "ActiveX" *still* being > used. This was something that MS was trying to kill a LONG time ago.

[Pharo-project] InnoSetup was: RE: One-click Windows comment

2012-04-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
InnoSetup is very non-intrusive and flexible. The resulting installers have options for silent and very silent installation, so yes, you probably can do what you want with them. Of course, Inno and resulting setups don't do anything (or not much anyway) that can't be done from any software, bu

Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] Generic failure errors when using nil for void* and char* arguments

2012-04-20 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
siguc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:08 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] Generic failure errors when using nil for void* and char* arguments On 20 April 2012 17:45, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Sig, > > I wonder whether that s

Re: [Pharo-project] [NativeBoost] Generic failure errors when using nil for void* and char* arguments

2012-04-20 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sig, I wonder whether that should be on by default. I have had some real frustrations with FFI of late, and something like this might have avoided the problem. Unless it is easily discoverable, off is almost the same as non-existent. Any rumblings on Spock? It would be nice to have even a f

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-18 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Fair enough. But let's face facts, there is an "IT" that is wrong. I submit that "IT" is an ever-changing "no do it THIS way now[*]" The people providing the code and instructions are very well intentioned, but overall, the whole thing is too complicated for anyone's good. I believe you that

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-18 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
YES!! That's what we need. The package system must know what to do and do the correct thing in context, or it is (sorry) more trouble than it's worth. Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inr

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger code edits lost?

2012-04-18 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
oject@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger code edits lost? On 18 April 2012 17:17, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Please do not ask me how to reproduce this... :) Actually, I *think* it > might be triggered by certain types of syntax errors. Bottom line is that > the sometime I do a fair

[Pharo-project] Good news / bad news

2012-04-18 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
The attached represents success (I think/hope) with getting GSL to fit a Gaussian plus a line to some data. I hope to use this to measure widths of peaks in FFTs of specific signals. The bad news is that I can't get Alien callbacks to work. Actually, the callbacks seem to work just fine, but

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-18 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, What about stable relative to a given version of Pharo? I *really* think that to be useful, Metacello needs to be consistent. As it is, one seems to be left looking at blessings and guessing at what might work. The current and occasional (and very helpful) "no, use THIS version..." is

[Pharo-project] Debugger code edits lost?

2012-04-18 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Please do not ask me how to reproduce this... :) Actually, I *think* it might be triggered by certain types of syntax errors. Bottom line is that the sometime I do a fair bit of coding in the debugger, only to find that the fruits of my labor went to oblivion and beyond. Gone - no trace of it

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I thought I read it was 1.4 only?? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Tomi Neste [tomi.ne...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:54 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Tahoma and save your image. There's room for improvement in context creation waiting for anybody with some free time. cheers! On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Igor Stasenko mailto:siguc...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 15 April 2012 16:50, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>>

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sig, Not intending to give you a hard time, but I went to the page, saw a -X package, and started to wonder if that might be linux support. But FWIW, I can't load any of it. The instructions failed, so I tried #load, and each variant gives some kine of DNU error. Maybe I have an inconsistent

Re: [Pharo-project] was Re: new 1.3 one click

2012-04-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: [Pharo-project] was Re: new 1.3 one click On 4/11/12 2:37 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > David, > > Fair enough - thanks for the scouting report. I hope you are wrong about > separate binaries. It would be sad enough if we had t

Re: [Pharo-project] new 1.3 one click

2012-04-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
ve hijacked alt-click for moving windows. I'm only an occasional linux user, but I'd say it's on par with Ubuntu. These two platforms are rapidly diverging and I imagine we'll have to compile separate binaries before too long. On 4/11/12 12:13 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-project] new 1.3 one click

2012-04-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
David, Do you use FFI on Fedora? Any tricks needed to make things work? On Ubuntu with Cog, I have had to resort to making symlinks (in the vm directory) to needed libraries :( At least it works when I do that :) One hardware manufacturer told that Fedora is great for polish (no argument),

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] NBOpenGL update

2012-04-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
+1. I have it loaded on Linux, but have *no* clue what to try, or if it even has hope of working (I see Win32 and Mac categories, but no linux-specifics). Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI definitions - structs

2012-04-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Try something like what appears below. If you search the Squeak archives, you'll probably find some useful posts by Andreas Raab. Don't expect too much documentation. Overall, Squeak/Pharo's FFI still falls far short of Dolphin's (sorry, but it's true), and structure mapping is a big area of

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4 - browse slow??

2012-04-05 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
30 AM, Camillo Bruni mailto:camillobr...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 2012-04-05, at 01:16, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote >> >> something is causing delays in either asking for a new browser or >> (particularly) references to the currently selected class. The browse

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4 - browse slow??

2012-04-04 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
br...@gmail.com>> wrote: which vm? which browser? On 2012-04-04, at 18:32, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > I'm seeing ~1-2 second delays on any attempt to browse a class. Anyone else?

[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4 - browse slow??

2012-04-04 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I'm seeing ~1-2 second delays on any attempt to browse a class. Anyone else?

[Pharo-project] Optimizations, Cog, cpu load??

2012-04-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, I have my laptop downloading updates, running a vm and installing clunky windows software therein. The fan just started, so my reduced load theory seems to hold water. Something in what has been done in the image and/or vm has allowed things that once would cause my laptop to heat up to

Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph changed behavior

2012-04-01 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
That's the problem - it's been "any day now" for a LONG time. As much as I don't enjoy pointing it out, don't wait for spoon. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Marcus Denker [

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] SciSmalltalk

2012-03-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
e.ber...@me.com>> For what I need R, Pharo can easily be better. Just an EyeSee pdf exporter will give me enough energy to build things on top of it. Alexandre Le 28 mars 2012 à 10:21, "Schwab,Wilhelm K" mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> a écrit : > It would be great to stab

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] SciSmalltalk

2012-03-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
uding finance) On 28 March 2012 15:21, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: It would be great to stab the R beast through the heart. But it will be tough go given the richness of analyses that R can do. I have been tinkering with PLplot for a while, but there are some

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] SciSmalltalk

2012-03-29 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
enough energy to build things on top of it. Alexandre Le 28 mars 2012 à 10:21, "Schwab,Wilhelm K" a écrit : > It would be great to stab the R beast through the heart. But it will be > tough go given the richness of analyses that R can do. I have been tinkering > with

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] SciSmalltalk

2012-03-28 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
It would be great to stab the R beast through the heart. But it will be tough go given the richness of analyses that R can do. I have been tinkering with PLplot for a while, but there are some graphs for R is simply more capable, and the modeling and tests are undeniably powerful. Bill ___

Re: [Pharo-project] SciSmalltalk

2012-03-28 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Do we really want Smalltalk code, or a wrapper around a C library? I've been tackling GSL, but callbacks+ffi have gotten strange. Still, it seems that for 500k element FFTs and other tricks, C _has_ to be faster than what we can create in Smalltalk. I am not at all thrilled about GSL's licens

[Pharo-project] Close encounters of the weird kind

2012-03-27 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Eliot, all, My GSL code, with callbacks is confusing me. First, I call gsl_multifit_fdfsolver_set(). This seems to work, hitting various callbacks (apparently successfully), but then gives an error with #'bad number of arguments'. I have looked, and don't see an invalid number of arguments

Re: [Pharo-project] Silly question: how to start up pharo on a given image?

2012-03-26 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stefano, Don't worry about the noise - I'm glad you solved your problem. The following are some things that might help you or others in the future. To run latest versions off of Jenkins on Ubuntu, I just dump the image, changes, and Cog.zip contents into one directory and then have a one-line

Re: [Pharo-project] Seaside Book: Chapter 17, Serving Files

2012-03-25 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
e case but why don't you simply serve that static content with Kom or Zinc ? On 25/03/12 18:29, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Clearly, I can't put hundreds of megabytes in a FileLibrary, and I have > no interest in configuring a static web server for something that (sadly > or

[Pharo-project] Seaside Book: Chapter 17, Serving Files

2012-03-25 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, Thanks for Dynamic Web Development With Seaside - it's a great book! One omission that I have noted is that of dynamically serving files. Making a long story short, I have a Seaside app that swallows and regurgitates literature (300 MB and growing). It is what has me interested in Citez

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI error message: Heisenbug

2012-03-25 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
oject@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] FFI error message: Heisenbug On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: I'm working on GSL+callbacks, and have hit a genuine Heisenbug - the behavior changes depending on when/where I b

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI error message: Heisenbug

2012-03-25 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
ro-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Eliot Miranda [eliot.mira...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:35 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] FFI error message: Heisenbug On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI error message: Heisenbug

2012-03-25 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
eed exported by the wrapper? Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bsch...@anest.ufl.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:36 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

[Pharo-project] FFI error message: Heisenbug

2012-03-25 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I'm working on GSL+callbacks, and have hit a genuine Heisenbug - the behavior changes depending on when/where I break and/or step over or into code. Callbacks are getting hit successfully(!!!) but there is one function that crashes, unless I step over the call, in which case I get an error. In

Re: [Pharo-project] no Complex class in Pharo?

2012-03-24 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, One thing that must not happen is "automatic" use of complex numbers. Things like -1 sqrt should raise an error. If one wants a complex result, then -1 asComplex sqrt would be a nice choice. That way, one can choose whether or not complex numbers are viable - many times, they are not

Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 is now green...

2012-03-24 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, Naive question: could you simply let Jenkins do the testing, and investigate/roll-back if it reports problems? If Jenkins can reliably, based on unit tests, report a last successful build, you might be at a good place. In that world, you would integrate and let Jenkins tell you if it wa

Re: [Pharo-project] About 1.4 Release...

2012-03-23 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Yearly seems a little slow, but might be about right to allow lots of time for testing. There will always be Jenkins for those who need a fix (sometimes guilty myself). Bug fix releases would be appreciated. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.in

Re: [Pharo-project] About 1.4 Release...

2012-03-23 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, I'm not finding faults - merely encouraging good energy. For now, I am nudging a polymorph-friendly MVP framework (presenters as morph-model factories) and cleaning my GSL interface. The latter has to be done carefully, because I can't have GPL preventing me from commercial use of some

Re: [Pharo-project] About 1.4 Release...

2012-03-23 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Ok, but that kind volunteer needs an image built the way they are told to do so. The convenience factor of having big stuff loaded into an image will attract users/testers. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@list

Re: [Pharo-project] Little challenge for you

2012-03-23 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, This reminds me of a Dolphin feature called IDE extensions. Presenters trigger an event (IIRC off of their class) when the open, and menus and commands trigger events when they are about to do something interesting. One can then easily add to an opening menu to add commands to it. As a

Re: [Pharo-project] About 1.4 Release...

2012-03-23 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Marcus, I like the idea of "downstream projects" but the dark side is that one won't know how much testing they have received. For one thing, the 1.4 Seaside image does not support Shout in system browsers (it works in the debugger) - 1.4 does have Shout everywhere. Someone suggested that the

Re: [Pharo-project] Callback(?) debugging - bad number of arguments

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Eliot Miranda mailto:eliot.mira...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: Eliot, I am calling something that I *think* simply tells GSL where to find the callbacks and a relevant structure. But I am getting

[Pharo-project] Callback(?) debugging - bad number of arguments

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Eliot, I am calling something that I *think* simply tells GSL where to find the callbacks and a relevant structure. But I am getting a primitive failure in VMCallbackContext32>>primReturnAs:fromContext:, which I assume means that the library is attempting to call into Pharo. In the debugger's

[Pharo-project] Montcello question

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Is there a way to save a global variable into an MC package? I will probably just gzip some data and make a class method with the reduced byte array as a literal, but it would be nice to simply somehow tag a global and have it magically part of the package. Bill

Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: Cog and CPU temp??

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
ect@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: Cog and CPU temp?? On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I am clobbering my cherished laptop today. I have it scanning the entire > image for references and senders, but have been surp

Re: [Pharo-project] Custom method browser "trick"

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
..@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bsch...@anest.ufl.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:53 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: [Pharo-project] Custom method browser "trick" Hello all, I'm working

[Pharo-project] Dumb question: Cog and CPU temp??

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Hello all, I am clobbering my cherished laptop today. I have it scanning the entire image for references and senders, but have been surprised that the fan has not started. The fan could have died, but the machine does not seem to be unusually warm. In the past, tasks like these always caused

[Pharo-project] Custom method browser "trick"

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Hello all, I'm working on my re-underscoring of GSL. It's been a lot of work, but I really believe it will pay off in the future in terms of being able more easily find methods of interest because with underscores, they look like the things one might find in the manual. It was *really* impor

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and an old plotter

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
/dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttySx and open the port by number (x), not by the name. See http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg60816.html -- Pavel On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Nice! What is the physical/electrical connection? Serial, para

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and an old plotter

2012-03-22 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Nice! What is the physical/electrical connection? Serial, parallel, etc.? If serial, did you have any problems with opening ports? On which VM? Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on b

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien callback thunk as ExternalAddress?

2012-03-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
2 at 4:01 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: I am getting near to jumping off the callback cliff. My problem is that I have a generated external structure that expects a void pointer (actually a function pointer). The setter sends #getHandle. I tried to hot-wire that

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien callback thunk as ExternalAddress?

2012-03-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
at 4:01 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: I am getting near to jumping off the callback cliff. My problem is that I have a generated external structure that expects a void pointer (actually a function pointer). The setter sends #getHandle. I tried to hot-w

[Pharo-project] Alien callback thunk as ExternalAddress?

2012-03-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I am getting near to jumping off the callback cliff. My problem is that I have a generated external structure that expects a void pointer (actually a function pointer). The setter sends #getHandle. I tried to hot-wire that by defining CallbackThunk>>getHandle to answer the #address. Is there

Re: [Pharo-project] R: Polymorph

2012-03-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
gt; > Regards, Gary > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] R: Polymorph > > > Gary, > > Great stuff! One point of confusion: android _emulator_?? Does this run &g

Re: [Pharo-project] R: Polymorph

2012-03-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
erate skeleton Android Java from it though. Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] R: Polymorph Gary, Great stuff! One point of confusion: android _emulator_?? Does this run on Androi

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