Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world

pour la transition et NON aux terroristes ! On 14 November 2015 at 15:01, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > These guys are clinging to a model of the past instead of making the > necessary changes to deal with the modernity transition challenge. > > China transitioned, India

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Days 2015

How I do SO wish I could attend ( I even have old friends living in Lille ! ) And then a trip across to see and walk Rue Chifflet in Besancon and an afternoon in Strasbourg ? un *rêve ...* Robert Shiplett/Shifflet/Chifflet On 29 October 2014 20:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

Congrat's ! On 17 October 2014 06:48, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

so I stay with my 8Gb iTouch iOS 3 ; with no prospect of an upgrade, I am sorta worry-free. If only it were also a phone ... Don't dial ... DO ! ;-) [ this msg was last seen in my default font ] On 22 September 2014 17:35, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hilaire These are two days

Re: [Pharo-users] Commandline

Sick of sed and Perl ? There is fun in Object Icon and Rebol ( r3 or Red ) ( Icon, UNICON or pythonic Converge PL.) And I even use xcurl scripts for MIT Curl ( www.curl.com ) (now SCSK Curl at www.curlap.com ) But Object Icon has to be built at the command line ;-) I gave up on Io and have been

Re: [Pharo-users] Commandline

I run server-side JavaScript but would not dream of using JS to do jobs ! Humour : for years the command-line params for VW Smalltalk were some kind of unpublished hush-hush secret for build mavens and image-stripping gurus on hp/ux servers. Not so for Gnu Smalltalk ;-) There is always APL ;-)

Re: [Pharo-users] HTML5 Generation

Because I use MIT Curl as markup instead of HTML, this has also been an interest of mine. ( Curl declarative and PL as in www.curl.com and not cURL ) On 4 June 2014 08:59, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stepharo wrote Now it would be really nice to have the seaside canvas as

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimal browser

I volunteer as a test user for this mini-B and DrGeo ! - Windows XP and 7 - various Linux DrGeo rules ! On 14 May 2014 07:26, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hello, With Pahro 1.4, Browser newOnClass: Number selector: #+ use to open a minimal browser on the selected method (btw, it

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 3.0 Released!

and congrat's on 3.0 release ! Now to get to work on my app ! On 1 May 2014 04:20, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 30 Apr 2014, at 22:57, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, It means that we are so happy that CodeCity is Maybe we should have added a link to the

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

congrat's ! Will run through my idiosyncratic ad hoc odd user testing later today ;-) I will be SOooo pleased to move up to Pharo3 - soon. And then to get a headless 3 onto my Japanese server in a prod dir ! On 29 April 2014 07:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We have a

Re: [Pharo-users] stepping a non-morphic object

re : Google'd heartbeat and model ticking-over isn't there a stackoverflow.com option for #pharo in addition to this mail list ( when time interval very short ;-) ? I think Seaside suggests just using #pharo tag to raise someone ... or was that IRC freenode ? Even with Pharo3 sooo close to

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo comes up with latest.zip + sources 30 but complains not able to find sources '20' On 29 April 2014 10:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:05, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote:

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my pharo.ini to use sources named '30' ? Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's for pharo.ini and sources but did not find this mentioned ... it is probably staring right at me, since the image DID open... On 29 April 2014 10:22, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to add a line to my

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:34, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:32, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: looked through 2 PDF's

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] New Sources file starting 30841/30842

Please understand that we cannot solve local problems. Duh. Like I have never stripped or built a Smalltalk image over my decades as a corp contracting Smalltalker ( so not Pharo, 'natch ) Marcus : the problem occurred ; I don't see it explained. So Marcus, if you are OK, I won't look

Re: [Pharo-users] Curl markup with Pillar

, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: re: Curl markup, as in web markup using declarative style in Curl PL from MIT, not cURL ( see www.curlap.com) My Japanese web pages are now generated using nunjucks + node.js but in the hope of using pharo 3 + Seaside on small virtual server, I thought

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar in TextMate

. Cheers Uko On 21 Apr 2014, at 15:06, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: re: textmite Q : what is currently the best Unicode text notes collator/editor/formatter/previewer/printer/versioning-compat app written in a Smalltalk dialect ? Any one component of the above ? RTF text

[Pharo-users] note on Smalltalk in wikipedia discussion

As I noted in the WP discussion post, When I flip the current Pharo 3.0 beta to Mincho and Japanese, I have to open a new browser to be able to use Japanese even if I use FORCE ... is that the intended behavior ? Or should instances of open windows notice an update to Fonts and refresh ? cheers

Re: [Pharo-users] note on Smalltalk in wikipedia discussion

the readme in the Pharo 3.0beta tested says This distribution was built March 27, 2014. and the files of note are 03-27 with the exe 12-07 On 30 March 2014 11:44, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: Pharo 3.0 beta Latest update: #30804 test of WideString Japanese instance method

Re: [Pharo-users] note on Smalltalk in wikipedia discussion

2014 11:54, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: the readme in the Pharo 3.0beta tested says This distribution was built March 27, 2014. and the files of note are 03-27 with the exe 12-07 On 30 March 2014 11:44, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: Pharo 3.0 beta Latest

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Application Security for your domains

do we have a Pharo PassPhrase 4 X 4 - specific project/variant/branch ? (i.e., four 4-char substring = 1 Passphrase ) I had done some work on mnemonics for such passphrases ... and I realize some like to salt-and-pepper with 3-char and 5-char Unicode chunks ... thnkx On 29 March 2014 10:05,

Re: [Pharo-users] Am not sure if that is a good idea

The MIT Curl debugger in their integrated IDE is for an expression-based language and so your are able to watch expressions of your own devising as you step through code - and drill down graphically into structured values such as object instances ; there is now an eclipse plug-in version of the

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec question

Glenn, thanks for posting the link ! Robert On 3 March 2014 12:15, Glenn Cavarlé gl...@cavarle.fr wrote: Hi Benjamin and Hernán, I found few time to make a little example of ListView (extend TreeModel). I hosted it in my wiki : ListViewModel Example

Re: [Pharo-users] Question on FUEL Simple Persistence

thanks for this post, Torsten ! it's a keeper , as the fishermen say in Minnesota :-) it gets a least 3 gmail tag-labels and into gmail Pharo/tips folder now ... and a few tags as a copy-paste-a-note in CintaNotes until there is a Pharo GTD+tagged-annotations app to import from CintaNotes,

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec website: nice!

Ben, congrat's on this Spec site I especially liked what I read at http://spec.st/docs/own-model/#the_adapter I look forward to recommending this site to folks not yet familiar with Smalltalk but with a UI interest/experience Robret On 28 February 2014 06:25, Benjamin

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

path issue? Doru On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.comwrote: I am dragging the image onto the pharo.exe in a newlynamed folder using an install whose README says date of Feb 25 COPY Pharo 3.0 This distribution was built February 25, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

-learning tool in 2014 ... 40 years / 4 decades after 1974. On 27 February 2014 10:29, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Robert Shiplett wrote: Someone keeps saying I must be doing something wrong, the ini file must be wrong execution in Windows in dependent on two settings of PATH in env var's

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 3.0 on Ubuntu 13.10

bravo ! Btw, anybody with in-RAM Puppy Linux on an Atom netbook other than me ? Mine is for my own Japanese-lang training app's to be a bit portable, but not Android or Win8. It can be tricky to get other languages in place on Puppy-in-RAM ... ( it takes about that 1 min to boot and then to

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

04:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 26 Feb 2014, at 01:57, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I am running from that latest.zip tonight and PackageTreeNautilusUI update is getting a walkback messageNoUnderstood for receiver of protocolsFor: is nil I simply

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

and I will also now re-name this file output (see attached) On 26 February 2014 04:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 26 Feb 2014, at 01:57, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I am running from that latest.zip tonight and PackageTreeNautilusUI update is getting

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

multiple images in the same dir ? ] ciao On 26 February 2014 04:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 26 Feb 2014, at 01:57, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: I am running from that latest.zip tonight and PackageTreeNautilusUI update is getting a walkback

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:30, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, Nautilus is stable and used daily by the whole community. This still rankles ... I have been a Smalltalker since long before Squeak and have been using Pharo since Seaside

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

I am dragging the image onto the pharo.exe in a newlynamed folder using an install whose README says date of Feb 25 COPY Pharo 3.0 This distribution was built February 25, 2014. as for that pharo.exe created and last mod date is 12 7 2013 the dir is C:\Pharo3.0-winB\Pharo3.0 and the

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

On 26 Feb 2014, at 12:38, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: regardless ... I did a sanity check on the contents of yesterday's latest.zip and hit a walkback I then did a sanity check on the latest 3.0 installer and hit a different walkback. At least on Win XP 3.1 that does

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

I am unzipping from our zip on pharo-project.org page for 3.0 Beta If that is wrong, let's have someone fix that zip, that page, what-ever THAT zip gives me a README.txt of : Pharo 3.0 This distribution was built February 25, 2014. Which I attach below Btw, desktop menu move top window to

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

... or at least this one beta tester exasperated ;-) best reagrds, Robert Canada On 26 February 2014 15:04, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: On 26 Feb 2014, at 19:16, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: Stef I'm dragging and dropping in a fresh install first the image

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

btw in addition to some items on World | Windows menu having no effect, the World menu will no even open if the pointer is within what looks to be about the height of a minimized window tab from the bottom of the world desktop ... but does work all the way to the top pixels of the desktop -

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

Stephan, Should there not be a simple mechanism for an image to advise the user that the current VM is below a minimum intended threshold version ? Have it only presented when not headless and debugging is available - and otherwise write to something better named than stderr ? Google mail

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

I am running from that latest.zip tonight and PackageTreeNautilusUI update is getting a walkback messageNoUnderstood for receiver of protocolsFor: is nil I simply flipped to class view in Announcements and then flipped that toggle back. Does this need to be reported, or is Nautilus still known

Re: [Pharo-users] Which one should I download?

that problematic latest.zip contains -30782 files R On 25 February 2014 19:02, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: none just download this one: http://files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip is always the latest effective build. Esteban On 25 Feb 2014, at 21:05, François

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Spec documentation in PFTE book finished

humour: license to practice English humor note; 'subclass' may be a verb at wiktionary.org but not in current standard English (e.g. m-w.org or 2002 10th Ed, hardcover Merriam-Webster) ... so word is being used as a technical term in 2014 ... life was easier when a verb had one spelling and a

Re: [Pharo-users] News Page

But what if Pharo developers loaded the Curl plugin into their browser ? Curl has great dynamic loading for such situations ( as needed by my old 1 CPU core Wind'd XP laptop ;-) {pharoNewsLine {urlBase {www www.curl.com}} {topic markup that JSON folks should love} {whatever } } || humour Curl

Re: [Pharo-users] News Page

For Dummies cf QNX Cloud news at http://www.blackberrycool.com/2014/01/29/blackberry-vp-of-developer-relations-alec-saunders-now-vp-of-qnx-cloud/ On 30 January 2014 07:47, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 30 Jan 2014, at 12:45, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: But what

Re: [Pharo-users] News Page

will stay there and old ones can be moved to the other page called archive? Or we sonly show titles for older news. Cheers. Uko On 30 Jan 2014, at 12:47, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 30 Jan 2014, at 12:45, Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: But what if Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

this is irreverent, but you might consider visiting Edmonton, Alberta, Canada or Yorkton Saskatchewan Canada or even Montreal, PQ ( at least there had been a Ukrainian community in Rosemount there in my day ... with shop signs in Cyrillic, blonde, blue-eyed female rock singers in local bands ...)

Re: [Pharo-users] ScriptManager Deprecated in Pharo3?

Bruce Hope you won't be discouraged from posting to this user mail list, regardless. :-) Maybe add a post to the tips mail list regarding Thorsten B. advice on ui icons ? best regards robert a Pharo user On 7 January 2014 18:00, Bruce Prior b.pr...@ieee.org wrote: I tried to load my

Re: [Pharo-users] NYC for a group?

well, Ruby *IS* the poor-man's Smalltalk ! ;-) welcome ( I am Atlantic tz north of NYC by a few hours ) On 4 October 2013 01:09, Raymond Brinzer ray.brin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Yes, I'm in NYC. However I'm mostly a Ruby guy, with a strong interest in Smalltalk; I periodically tinker

Re: [Pharo-users] NYC for a group?

And there is Stan B. over in Newark - a top-drawer Smalltalk corp developer/contractor from EU On 4 October 2013 11:23, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Raymond Brinzer-2 wrote I'm probably an odd candidate to be part of a Smalltalk meeting. :-) Not at all! I came from the

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

this sounds very much like a Squeak effort of mine in 1996 ;-) Have you looked at SOUL and Qsoul-era code of Roel Wuyts ? Some of that code was VW and Squeak as I recall. I hope you fare better than I did in comm telco setting where identifying resources should have been, err, of interest to

Re: [Pharo-users] MSI packaging for Pharo

We used to do this routinely with VisualWorks app's back when building for Mac and Windows - the start menu is usually what a client wants ... ( pre-Retro/Metro Win 8 ;-) On 26 August 2013 17:29, Usman Bhatti usman.bha...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-users] minimal headless pharo2 for CentOS

Oh, disk size is NOT the issue ! ;-) On 12 June 2013 08:12, LogiqueWerks grshipl...@gmail.com wrote: If it is not under 50Mb with min packages + my classes, then I think no one in the minimalist camp is going to look at my efforts ( this is my emit Curl markup as alternative-to-HTML project

Re: [Pharo-users] About the Mailinglist debacle...

Sorry to hear of this grief ! No ETA does mean that someone has to make a decision, regardless of what hindsight may or may not eventually show. Thanks for tackling this ... I rely on reading this mail list to feel in the loop with Pharo ... and I refrain from filtering it ! On 15 May 2013