[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?

2007-02-14 Thread Rich
What you have to remember is that better than 90% of the PayPal users never even read the user agreement and the rules. And, even worse of the 10% or so who do read them probably 50% do not understand them. PayPal provides excellent buyer insurance when using PayPal through eBay and is

[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?

2007-02-14 Thread Ken Danckaert
Don't rely too much on PayPal. I know of one instance where PayPal did pay after a lot of work by the injured party, BUT Pay Pal terminated both the buyer and the seller until they got money back from someone. They didn't care about the injured party not being responsible for the problem of

[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?

2007-02-14 Thread Rich
I consider these eBay, PayPal, common carrier, or whoever boned me stories to be little more than one sided urban legends and of little merit. Now if I am provided with all of the correspondence from ALL sides I will consider it. This is no more or less than an other adaptation of the old

[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?

2007-02-14 Thread Robert Wright
In both negative experiences I've read so far, the injured parties did indeed get their money back. Try that with a check that's been cashed, or worse, a money order! For me, 85% of my luck with PayPal has probably been cautious buying from good sellers. Common sense and a little research

[Phono-L] Not a fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread phonop...@aol.com
Those of you who are old enough to remember the days before the Bell system was broken up, will recall that just mentioning the name The Phone Company evoked instant images of a huge, uncaring corporate monster with WAY more money than it needed and absolutely NO incentive to pay attention

[Phono-L] Not a fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread michael funk
John: I enjoyed your comments about paypal. The website to which you refer was also quite informative. I also like the following website: http://www.aboutpaypal.org/taking_paypal_to_court In my almost 9 years of buying and selling on ebay, I have refused signing on with paypal. I just

[Phono-L] Not a fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread Robert Wright
With all due respect to those whose PayPal experiences have been negative, I can find you a few JFK and 9/11 conspiracy websites too. Like I said, no one I know personally has ever had anything bad happen with them, and I certainly haven't. Further, every new system has kinks and every new

[Phono-L] Paypal

2007-02-14 Thread Mike Stitt
I'm not an eBay collector but from time to time I'll use eBay for a part or odd item. When I first signed up for Paypal I gave them my CC number and they put some limit on what I could charge. O.K fine. It has been dropping (the amount) every time I use Paypal. Well it seems they want my

[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?

2007-02-14 Thread Ken Danckaert
Since you appear to be such an expertl, I refer you to the pictures of the badly demolished Columbia AS. That will show you the Injured parties side and the packing of the machine as received. You tell me who is he said and she said! Rich wrote: I consider these eBay, PayPal, common

[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?

2007-02-14 Thread Robert Wright
I fail to see where the destruction of the AS due to substandard packing has been disputed. I also fail to see what that has to do with PayPal. Insurance claims should've been made with the shipper, no? It's not PayPal's responsibility to fix damage done in shipping. If the item had never

[Phono-L] paypal

2007-02-14 Thread Mike Stitt
Robert wrote: There are so many differences between PayPal and Amazon that it's not worth comparing. I'll only point out the one difference that matters -- Amazon is a retail company and eBay is not. Amazon takes your CC because they sell you stuff. Robert, Agreed! But I see you got my

[Phono-L] Whaddya think it will Pay Pal?

2007-02-14 Thread Rich
There is a contract between the shipper (seller) and the carrier. You, the receiver (buyer0 have no legal standing in a damage claim as far as the carrier is concerned. So, if the B***H*** seller chooses to not negotiate with the carrier for the damage claim then you, the buyer need to send

[Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread Robert Wright
It is a shame PayPal kinda went You're both grounded for fighting! instead of having a fair and practicable policy in place. I still don't know how long ago this happened, or what state of development PayPal was in at the time. They certainly did not handle it very well (if at all), but I

[Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread Jim Nichol
I find it pretty amazing that any decent person would sell something that arrived broken, and keep the buyer's money. What goes through the mind of a person like that? Surely he can't be thinking the buyer is to blame, or that it is the buyer's job to go after the shipper (which can't be

[Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread Rich
I would say that is about the size of it. I also tend to highly discount comments relating to a seller in a negative manner when the ID of the seller is not also revealed. Tends to make me think I am not hearing all of the story. Rich On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:41:58 -0500, Jim Nichol wrote:

[Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread Steven Medved
Hi Rich, http://www.toolhaus.org/ This program lets you see the negatives a person gives and receives. I look for hateful feedback and avoid those who give it. This makes it easy to see both sides. Best regards, Steve I would say that is about the size of it. I also tend to highly

[Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal

2007-02-14 Thread estott
- Original Message - From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com I know people who do nothing but go to auctions on Saturday and then list the finds on eBay Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. My favorites are people who list, say, a Civil War Battle Flag and say I've contacted the so-and-so