Re: [Phono-L] Nutcracker Suite

I have the 2 Edison discs, but they are rather noisy pressings; it would be nice to find later paper-label pressings - if they were in the catalogue long enough. I recently bought (and overpaid, but I didn't know) an electric Edison of the Peer Gynt Suite, and although 2 discography

Re: [Phono-L] Todd Augsburger

He was ultimately a very old and successful man who left a legacy of great comfort and happiness to millions of people. Nothing came from imaginary gods, witches, ghosts, angels, or any other stupidity thought up by people who want to control the thoughts of others. What you DO in life is all

Re: [Phono-L] Todd Augsburger

I'm about at Edison's level of faith, less his occasional (and very real) need to protect his businesses by pandering to the religious crowd when reporters pushed him on the God subject. He saw no evidence of a kindly, merciful being which oversaw Nature and the world. (Think of Mina trying to

Re: [Phono-L] Magnetic Pickup Repair/Restoraion

When I was maybe 14 or 15 (not recently!) I got a Silvertone radio/phono from a flea market for a couple of dollars. The radio/amp needed work, but I connected the crystal pickup directly to the speaker and the volume was quite adequate - through headphones, the volume was overwhelming

Re: [Phono-L] Pics of Oddball CliftoPhone tonearm and reproducer

The close shot of the needle-chuck sure looks as if the pivots are solid wings attached at both ends. If so, it's a wonder if it makes any noise at all, and I suspect it is particularly brutal on records. - Original Message - From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: 'Antique

[Phono-L] Happy Edison's Birthday

I think it's weird when people leave birthday greetings for dead people at the cemetery, so I will say: Happy Edison's Birthday to US , and a big fat THANK YOU to Thomas Alva Edison - thanks for living producing so many nifty inventions !! ps - Sorry I touched some of your furniture

Re: [Phono-L] Who says some phono collectors aren't creepy??

I guess The Waltzing Doll would have been too cheerful and light-hearted for this (Is she supposed to be dead or just comatose, or ?) - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010

Re: [Phono-L] Edison attachment to play Victor and Pathe records

That was actually a decent deal ($61 final bid) because it was for TWO adapters - one for laterals one for Pathe type ... I didn't even know that Pathe-only adapters were made - the ones I have or have seen were either for both or lateral-only. - Original Message - From: Tom

Re: [Phono-L] BABY PHONOGRAPH HORN OR TALKING MACHINE HORN what is it?

I think that's exactly what this is. See the No.7 wood horn on Type 48, at this site: http://www.keithwright.ca/CAPP/Vitaphone/vitaphone.html - Original Message - From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010

Re: [Phono-L] Fw: YouTube - Historic Film: Market Street 1906

The Lyeberry of Congress American Memory site has had this for about 10 years http://tinyurl.com/2cpoup3(untested link ) - Original Message - From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:26

Re: [Phono-L] Union wish list - Pathe Actuelle upright

This is nice, but probably won't make its way to Union: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/atq/1736515692.html - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:32 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Union wish

Re: [Phono-L] Doctors call for patients

If they'll pay $500 to repair $5 worth of old wax, maybe . Has there been much charity associated with this effort ? - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:58 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Phono-L] Union wish list

I wish: my car would go that far back (doubtful) ... that *I* could drive that far and back (impossible - I fall into a trance after 100 miles) ... that I could afford it (well, I prolly can) .. and that my current job would allow it (nope - nobody to take my place over a weekend) .

Re: [Phono-L] Vitaphone Tone Arm

Actually, the spring/string assembly needs to be in the correct position - hooked to the side and pulling sideways for laterals, or unhooked and pulling down for hill dales. With an Edison cygnet horn attached directly to the reproducer, a good band record is impressive ! - Original

Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices

I just got a price on a 5pound box, 9x9x9 inches, from Mirek's town to mine, with $500 insurance: $23.19 Canadian. Mirek's shipping charge seems reasonable and non-profit, to me ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer

Does this attachment fit an Edison disc machine? Sounds just like one that I have To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 4:29:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Dual Lateral/Vertical Reproducer Hello - I found a dual lateral/vertical reproducer in an antique shop today. It was in a box of

Re: [Phono-L] Craigslist Rant

I understand how you might feel, yet can also speak from a seller's position : until I get cash in hand, the thing is open to all comers. I tried like Heck to sell an old van, some months ago. Dozens of emails, dozens of calls, dozens of liars who promised to visit yet never showed up. Then

[Phono-L] Any Edison Crapographs?

Cheapo, late-model portables, surely. Crap-O-Edisons wouldn't be so easy to fake, what with the precision feed-screws and all. - Original Message - From: Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com Correct me if I'm wrong, everyone, but isn't the only reason we have crap-o-phones at al

[Phono-L] Another gem from Mario

Meanwhile, real antiques are readily available and sometime go begging or into the trash ! I just got another Standard disc machine, in very decent condition, out of the trash of an elderly neighbor whose kids stuck her into a 'home'.Some modification to the spindle it'll be ready to

[Phono-L] Another gem from Mario

Mario I'd like to know what neighborhood you're in, Dan! John Dan Kj ediso...@verizon.net wrote: Meanwhile, real antiques are readily available and sometime go begging or into the trash ! I just got another Standard disc machine, in very decent condition, out of the trash of an elderly

[Phono-L] All you phonograph/old car guys - check this out

The hand-holds are too short to give much torque for a lugnut wrench (I've had to STAND my fat self on the handle of lugnut wrenches, to get the nut to move) , and why would Edison even make a lug nut wrench?? - Original Message - From: aph4...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent:

[Phono-L] Marconi Velvet Tone discs

I've played only one of my Marconi discs (Everybody Works But Father, by Lew Dockstader) - and found that is sounded very well, indeed. I also have 4 doubled-sided Marconi records of Spanish band music (issued in South America, I assume) and a few other titles which I don't recall. I am sure

[Phono-L] Where can I get covers for 78s? (on topic)

Bags Unlimited sleeves are okay, but Disc-O-File sleeves are suberb and well worth the extra cost, at least for your most treasured records ! - Original Message - From: Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com Anyone out there with actual Disc-o-file sleeve experience wish to give

[Phono-L] Where can I get covers for 78s? (on topic)

make that superb.... - Original Message - From: Dan Kj ediso...@verizon.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Where can I get covers for 78s? (on topic) Bags Unlimited sleeves are okay, but Disc-O-File

[Phono-L] Official Questionnaire for early Edison discphonographs

The photo page opens fine on my Thinkpad. By the way, about this item : 11) Latest patent date on dataplate: 8-26-11 (Unsure of the 6 in 26). 8-26-11 was a Saturday, and most patents since 1848 have been issued on Tuesdays, so either 8-22 or 8-29 would be more likely. To see early vs.

[Phono-L] Victor P bracket

ps - all clean meant scraped right down to the bare steel in this case. - Original Message - I knew someone who had the same finish on all the door hardware in his house he removed every piece got them all clean again with some kind of industrial polishing compound. I

[Phono-L] Edison/Dalhart question

If B C are known, it's a safe bet that A was also issued. It was standard Edison practice to get 3 good takes put all into production to speed the process.

[Phono-L] Why hasn't anyone bid?

hasn't anyone bid? In-Reply-To: 001701c794d0$a3d01520$8a01a...@new Message-ID: 717151.91674...@web35613.mail.mud.yahoo.com --- Dan Kj ediso...@verizon.net wrote: Plus $80 (EIGHTY!) to mail a machine you can hold in one hand. sheesh. A...Dan, you are wrong. The machine goes in one hand

[Phono-L] Wonderful Windups

Indeed! Their $50 Orthophonic bracket (a bit more now, I think) made my $25 Credenza into a thing of beauty (well, a thing of utility - it was as beautiful as it will ever get ) - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday,

[Phono-L] Searching...Carriage question

I suspect that it would fit, but the stylus wouldn't be in quite the correct spot. That's what happened when I moved the carriage from an Amberola X to a Fireside - it works, but the stylus/record angle is not right. - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To:

[Phono-L] ebay nr 6582393385

It does appear that the top of the spindle is flush with the record surface, so I'll guess that it wouldn't have a hold-down nut - unless somebody cut off the spindle at some time . Only thing I can tell about that label is that it looks old - note the dirt around each corner tack -

[Phono-L] Diamond Disc Reproducers

In fact, if the Edison Disc reproducer is not adjusted *just right*, one can hear the brass ringing along with the surface noise ! Thus the use of pot metal, methinks. Brass is long-lived, but not acoustically inert. - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbu...@sigecom.net To:

[Phono-L] RE: Open-horned phonos

I am sure that Edison's sales were much higher than Victor's, until the success of the Victrola. There are quite a few Columbia Q machines out there, too ! - Original Message - From: diamondisk...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:02 PM Subject:

[Phono-L] john9ten sent you this eBay item: Victor Vitrola Phonograph VV-IX w/ Morning Glory Horn (#6513932683)

It is all pieces-parts ! So, anything goes .. I would think that the ID plate matches the motor, if nothing else - Original Message - From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [Phono-L] john9ten sent you this eBay item: Victor

[Phono-L] Styli assistance, please

I play lots of records acoustically, and don't get black dust on the needle; I'd stop immediately, if so (not counting dirt, which is another story). If your needle is grinding BLACK out of the grooves every time, your machine is in serious need of repair. However, I do not play records with

[Phono-L] Recorder

It is a recorder? Sure it isn't a reproducer?? - Original Message - From: c5...@aol.com To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Recorder I have finally got to a strange electronic recorder that I got in a cylinder cabinet I purchased a few

[Phono-L] Styli...

Rough shaped diamonds were plated into place with nickel, then the nickel was ground away in the same operation that shaped the tip. New ones would be another story (one my clutzy fingers won't be telling! ) - Original Message - From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu To: Antique

[Phono-L] Re: Edison Phono on Antique Road Show this week

On the plus side, he DID know that Edison made something called Art Models, but he thought that was 1907 or so this wasn't one of them and they were Disc models, for that matter. But he'd heard of Art Models! ps - The owner thinks all the records are worn out; maybe it's because he's

[Phono-L] half a horn better than none?

Wyatt's sells unpainted reproduction cygnet elbows for $125 http://www.wyattsmusical.com/CoverINDEX.html - Original Message - From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu An antique dealer/friend of mine has turned up the front half of an eleven panel cyl. Phonograph horn. Yes, it is

[Phono-L] Even More Unusual item on eBay

Or maybe just CON something? hehe CON Automatique du MufflerShoppe - Original Message - From: Robert Plavzic plav...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Even More Unusual item on eBay Hello So what do we call this,

[Phono-L] Unusual item on eBay

...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Dan Kj Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:45 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Unusual item on eBay I'll find out about the windings, when it gets here (I bought it; for $10, what the heck) ... I do have

[Phono-L] Unusual item on eBay

you use any other normal Audio output? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Dan Kj Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:03 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Unusual item on eBay They usually

[Phono-L] E-bay listing for the AUXETOPHONE

Not necessarily. I got an item I really wanted, bids for which stood at $995 just before ending time ... I bid $1000.05 got the item. From: Jim Nichol I have nothing against sniping. But if you're going to snipe, you have to do it correctly. You need to bid at LEAST 50% more than the current

[Phono-L] Rebuilding a Victor Number 4 reproducer

I noticed someone in the UK, selling them. He's on ee-bay, too: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2286726936 Whether the gasket is exactly correct might be another question... - Original Message - From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com To:

[Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting)

Well, Charles Hibbard was the sound engineer Albert Benzler was musical director, and both came from Edison. They must have gained some important knowledge perhaps improved on it. Knowing that the Everlasting celluloid records could stand up under heavier use, I imagine they knew they could

[Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting)

Luckily, I've had only one (so far) which has split the seam ! - Original Message - From: allena...@aol.com *** It is remarkable that only US Everlasting made cylinder records out of flat sheets of celluloid rather than tubes. If you look closely, you can still see the

[Phono-L] Edison tuning record

During house cleaning, I find that I've got an Edison tuning record (3342-B-5) ... I know I am being perfectly lazy in asking: what musical note is this ?

[Phono-L] Edison disc needed...

52044 was still acoustical, so doesn't attract the interest of those looking for electric Edisons in the 52000 range. My copy cost me $2 (but I cannot find it! ) - Original Message - From: diamondisk...@aol.com I have a clean copy of 52044, that I think would be fine for your

[Phono-L] Phonographs as an Investment

Ideal fantasy: sell the whole collection around 8-10 years ago, buy ee-bai stock when it was first offered, sell now at the inflated value, and repurchase collection at the new lower prices. haha ps - Quite agreed about Kurt Nauck. I can't count the number of times I have seen my 'wins'

Re: [Phono-L] 20 pathés, etc. - a new question

I'd like: a Gabel's Automatic Entertainer a Regina Hexaphone I believe that both could be ordered in home versions, which didn't require a coin could play several records in sequence (or if not available that way, they SHOULD have been. hehe ) I have a couple of the Pathe cone machines

[Phono-L] Dutch

actually, 'Dutch' references are many mostly fond, if not beloved (except for those darned ELMS, durnit!) hehe Dutch apple pie a Dutch Uncle Dutch shoes the Old Dutch Mill double Dutch Dutch door being in Dutch (hear Billy Murray, singing: You May Be Irish,

[Phono-L] Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 1, Issue 48

Actually, the horn is a new thing, currently being made in China - Original Message - From: mrprojection...@juno.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:24 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 1, Issue 48 Hi All... The Phono in question Looks like my

[Phono-L] Edison business phonos

Mine has a 6 mandrel, as did all Edison Biusiness phonos, I believe and somebody needs to take it off my hands for $500 or an offer! - Original Message - From: Steven Medved Hi, Did the early Edison business phonographs have the standard length of record? I am talking about

[Phono-L] The Practical Long Play Record

So, did Theodore work on the Edison LP at all ? - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbu...@sigecom.net Since Edison did invent the first true microgroove record and a special elliptical stylus for playback, even though they were years ahead of their time in practicality,

[Phono-L] Theodore Edison

-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 15:02:00 -0400 From: Dan Kj ediso...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Practical Long Play Record To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Message-ID: 004a01c66e1a$e7120240$6600a...@new Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

[Phono-L] Edison C-450

Wow, that is a nice deal for you, John! I think that consoles still aren't much appreciated, nor Edison disc machines ... the shipping also factored into it, surely. If it had been within driving distance of ME, you'd have had some more competition! :) - Original Message - From:

[Phono-L] Victor long playing records

I don't think that either speed or groove size can be patented. For an interesting account of the Columbia LP, try http://www.classicalmusiccd.com/audiohistoryLP.html - Ed Wallerstein mentions the RCAVictor lp, too. I've read elsewhere that recommendations were made (I think by Wallerstein)

[Phono-L] Edison LP machine w/both reproducers

I notice that the LP consoles and the Edisonic machines have the same extra framework, attached to the underside of the lid. It doesn't seem to be strength-related, as the lids aren't unusually wide all 4 sides rest on the cabinet. What could be the purpose? The round holes in the horn

[Phono-L] Cleaning blue amberol records

I have used some other brand of a 'pledge'-like spray, in the past - seems fine to me. On celluloid cylinders and some Pathe discs, cleaned over 10 years ago, all looks and sounds well. - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Some of us old timers used to clean

[Phono-L] victor machine

Victor also made machines for export, with neither model numbers nor identifying marks except on the inside of the reproducer - these aren't mentioned by Baumbach, either. Victor had to make sales any way possible, during the years before the Victrola became so popular. - Original

[Phono-L] Packing Disaster - Take a look

Almost looks as if it was smashed and THEN put in the boxes! - Original Message - From: Robert Wright I am floored. It takes a lot to get me on the verge of nausea from just a picture, but that second one nearly did me in. Unbelievable.

[Phono-L] Is Phonolist Still Operating?

I've gotten several Phonolist items, today and over the past several days ... seems fine to me ! - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is Phonolist Still Operating? Hi

[Phono-L] Listening to old cylinders

Forgotten! Not here ... that's mostly what I hear at my house, either on old machines or modern. Also have 1300 of those UCSB recordings downloaded, so far - Original Message - From: John Keister j...@venustel.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:40 PM

[Phono-L] Idelia SOLD

It sounded great, too! Did you download the file provided by Guido? Very nice. Time to go over the old Fireside with Pledge, I guess ... I'll certainly never have an Idelia! - Original Message - From: wilenz...@bellsouth.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent:

[Phono-L] Taft's Idelia

cylinders he received as a BRIBE? no, i'm kidding...really. i'm kidding! On Feb 12, 2006, at 2:52 PM, Dan Kj- wrote: I believe Edison presented the Idelia to Taft so that he'd have a way to hear his Edison cylinders.

[Phono-L] You Guys Must Camp Online

74 and 34% humidity in Buffalo! Oh wait, that IS Western NY :) - Original Message - From: gpaul2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] You Guys Must Camp Online Thanks group, for the rapid - and I mean rapid - response to

[Phono-L] Cracked Cylinder

Any repair should be done ASAP, before the whole thing shrinks ...I have seen repairs which played without problem

[Phono-L] Edison and the Tube/bragging on Steve Medved.(Now Tesla and Steve)

But we shouldn't take a professional rivalry as hatred; when Edison heard about Tesla's laboratory being destroyed by fire, he offered space in his own buildings for Tesla to use. It seems that Edison resented George Westinghouse, instead of Tesla. The War of the Currents has been a little

[Phono-L] What do you think of this restoration?

hahaha... happened when I replaced the toilet in Mom's bathroom ... oh, but the sink is pink won't match the new white toilet, so better replace that ... egads, look at this linoleum... tear it up... eeks, look at this wood! ... tear that up ... the tub had to go, to get the floor out ...

[Phono-L] RCA microgroove LP demo disc from ca. 1932 - any info??

Not all that rare, actually; every buyer of a new 78/LP phono got that album, with the (DL-5) Victor Artists Party Lp. Not common either, of course :) - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM

[Phono-L] RCA microgroove LP demo disc NEW QUESTION!

? Using a 1 mil groove in conjunction with vinyl, or what? Seems like they didn't invent much! Thanks again, Robert - Original Message - From: Dan Kj ediso...@verizon.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Phono

[Phono-L] Edison and the Tube/bragging on Steve Medved.(Now Tesla and Steve)

Small additional info: Tesla accepted this offer, and worked at the Edison lab for a time in 1895. - Original Message - From: Dan Kj ediso...@verizon.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison and the Tube

[Phono-L] The Practical Long Play Record

- Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbu...@sigecom.net Since Edison did invent the first true microgroove record and a special elliptical stylus for playback, even though they were years ahead of their time in practicality, You have to remember that even Columbia's L.P. did

[Phono-L] Klingsor

Having hollered at undamped (non-dampened? free?) piano strings (as a kid, of course!) I am going to guess that the Klingsor strings are too short to produce an audible effect when a record is played at them. Do let us know what happens in real life, though !

[Phono-L] Klingsor

The Klingsor is going to sound chintzy and pallid, whatever the length of strings. It has a tiny horn and leaky tonearm. Its value lies in its novelty and rarity, not its sound. Pretty, shiny strings will make it look nice, which is good enough. - Original Message - From: Robert

[Phono-L] Absurd? I guess not

Yikes. Some parts from the hardware store, a few minutes with a Dremel tool and some hot motor oil, and one would duplicate this set of parts for about $4 - Original Message - From: aarona...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: Re:

[Phono-L] Test

My message below was returned 'address unknown', several times last week. Let's test it now: Watching the special edition of Young Frankenstein, I see that a deleted scene had an old phono: They had the 'reading' of the will via a 78 played on a curiously lidless Victor Credenza ! There was

[Phono-L] John Robles sent you this eBay item:EDISONGEMPHONOGRQAPH C. 1900 LOTS OF EXTRAS (#6574012330)

http://cgi.ebay.com/EDISON-Diamond-D-Phonograph-VICTROLA-ADAPTER-ADAPTOR_W0QQitemZ6572604105 That's one - they might be called anything, by sellers. A common brand-name on these is KENT, and those usually sound good are easy to fix. Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com wrote: Can anyone