Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

At 02:40 08/06/2002 +0100, you wrote: > > There are two reasons we repeat the 'PHP is not Java mantra': > > > > (a) Many of those requesting these changes actually DO want to see PHP > > as a Java with PHPish syntax. > >Anyone wanting PHP to be a "simple" or "more flexable" Java is barking up >th

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP profiling results under 2.0.37 Re: Performance of Apache2.0 Filter

I wrote: > a quick system call profile of PHP-4.2.1 within oops, s/system/function/ --Brian -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP profiling results under 2.0.37 Re: Performance of Apache2.0 Filter

In case it's helpful to the PHP developers, here are some more performance problems that I found by running a quick system call profile of PHP-4.2.1 within Apache-2.0.37-dev: * php_request_shutdown() calls shutdown_memory_manager(), which does a large number of calls to free() per request. If

[PHP-DEV] failed php build on OSX: "libexpat.la bad magic number (not aMach-O file)" & "directory name (/lib) does not exist"

hi all, a build of php-latest (php4-200206071800) on OSX Server 10.1.4 with: ./configure --enable-shared --enable-static --prefix=/usr/local/php4 --with-layout=PHP --with-apxs2=/usr/local/apache2/sbin/apxs --with-config-file-path=/private/etc/php4/ --mandir=/usr/local/man --localstatedir=/pri

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

Dan Hardiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless Im missing the mark - for which I appologise. The PHP Group as a > whole seems to have mixed feelings on this issue - could there be some > form of concensus so that I (and many others on this list) can work out if > the requested extra functionalit

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE:[PHP-DEV] oo != php

> eg: simple db-based shopping cart web site? use PHP... complex internet > backing system? use Java. Easy! Use PHP! Easier. Look, I've built hideously complex things with PHP - commerce systems that do stream encryption on a per-field basis, complex interconnected process stuff, large APIs, eve

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] ext/bz2/bz2.c - fix mem overrun in _php_stream_bz2open in ZTS mode

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:32:14PM +0200, Markus Fischer wrote : > The patch fixed that, but me being not that familiar with the > things, I better let commit this someone who knows the code > (Wez, Sterling?). I was right, the patch is crap. But the problem still exists :)

Re: [PHP-DEV] What kind of option ASP/Java has for this?

Melvyn Sopacua wrote: > At 02:43 8-6-2002, Yasuo Ohgaki shared with all of us: > >> I'm about to start coding new HTML Form Creation & Validation >> module for PHP. I've designed most featrue needed. Before I start, >> I would like to know if ASP/Java has similar feature and what they >> do. > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

> There are two reasons we repeat the 'PHP is not Java mantra': > > (a) Many of those requesting these changes actually DO want to see PHP > as a Java with PHPish syntax. Anyone wanting PHP to be a "simple" or "more flexable" Java is barking up the wrong tree... in fact all of the people I know

Re: [PHP-DEV] What kind of option ASP/Java has for this?

At 02:43 8-6-2002, Yasuo Ohgaki shared with all of us: >I'm about to start coding new HTML Form Creation & Validation >module for PHP. I've designed most featrue needed. Before I start, >I would like to know if ASP/Java has similar feature and what they >do. I think CFML (Cold Fusion) would be t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

Brian, We're on the job. I generally think you're right, we have to do some more thinking but chances are we will change the shutdown order to be reversed. Sorry for not ack'ing earlier. Zeev At 09:44 PM 6/7/2002, Brian France wrote: >Zend Engine unloading extension in the wrong order! (Re-

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

There are two reasons we repeat the 'PHP is not Java mantra': (a) Many of those requesting these changes actually DO want to see PHP as a Java with PHPish syntax. (b) Java is (so far) the best implemented OO language out there that's actually being used. It symbolizes the extreme OO world, if

[PHP-DEV] Re: Sorry! Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: REJECTED: <5.1.0.14.2.20020607225328.03df2740@127.0.0.1>

Richard S. Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry abt that .. an overzealous SPAM filter triggered on your three > exclamation points . in your SUBJECT > > should be fixed now :-S you should further fix your spam system to bounce to the SMTP envelope sender instead of whatever broken

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

At 01:14 PM 6/7/2002 -0700, Brian France wrote: >Yes, zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy() fixes the problem as well. Is >this a better solution for the fix? It's the same but doesn't require a new function. Andi -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: ht

[PHP-DEV] Re: PHP profiling results under 2.0.37 Re: Performance of Apache2.0 Filter

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Brian Pane wrote: > IMHO, that's a design flaw. Regardless of whether PHP is doing > buffering, it shouldn't break up blocks of static content into > small pieces--especially not as small as 400 bytes. While it's > certainly valid for PHP to insert a flush bucket right befo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

Yes, zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy() fixes the problem as well. Is this a better solution for the fix? Thanks, Brian At 11:06 PM +0300 6/7/02, Andi Gutmans wrote: >At 01:00 PM 6/7/2002 -0700, Brian France wrote: >>I will try that, but I was worried that the pDestructor function >>would n

[PHP-DEV] Sorry! Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: REJECTED:<5.1.0.14.2.20020607225328.03df2740@127.0.0.1>

sorry abt that .. an overzealous SPAM filter triggered on your three exclamation points . in your SUBJECT should be fixed now :-S --On Friday, June 7, 2002 10:58 PM +0300 Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea why I got this when posting to php-dev? > > Andi > >> Delivered-

[PHP-DEV] HUGE APOLOGIES to the LIST for SMAPCOP screw-up!!

i believe its been fixed :-S richard

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

At 01:00 PM 6/7/2002 -0700, Brian France wrote: >I will try that, but I was worried that the pDestructor function would not >get called for each item like it was in zend_hash_destroy. Is this the >case? Looking at the code what is the difference between >zend_hash_graceful_destroy and zend_has

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: REJECTED: <5.1.0.14.2.20020607225328.03df2740@127.0.0.1>

I got it too.. - brad --- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea why I got this when posting to php-dev? > > Andi > > >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reject) > >Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:50:05 -0700 > >X-Autogenerated: Reply > >To: Andi Gutmans <[EM

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: REJECTED:<5.1.0.14.2.20020607225328.03df2740@127.0.0.1>

Somebody from PRESENCE-GROUP.COM is subscribed to php-dev list and is filtering mail through spamcop or something program. I am getting them to. Brian At 10:58 PM +0300 6/7/02, Andi Gutmans wrote: >Any idea why I got this when posting to php-dev? > >Andi > >>Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Se

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

I will try that, but I was worried that the pDestructor function would not get called for each item like it was in zend_hash_destroy. Is this the case? Looking at the code what is the difference between zend_hash_graceful_destroy and zend_hash_destroy? Thanks again for the help! Brian At 10

[PHP-DEV] Fwd: REJECTED: <5.1.0.14.2.20020607225328.03df2740@127.0.0.1>

Any idea why I got this when posting to php-dev? Andi >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reject) >Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:50:05 -0700 >X-Autogenerated: Reply >To: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: REJECTED: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Au

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

Can you check and see if using zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy() fixes your problem? Andi At 11:44 AM 6/7/2002 -0700, Brian France wrote: >Zend Engine unloading extension in the wrong order! (Re-post due to no >response) > >I have been tracking down a core dump with my php extension when it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

The issue is *not* the order in which the Zend Engine is loading them in, but the order it is unloading them in. Switching order for loading was a fix that just happened to work. With the patch I provided I can put them in any order and it works. Looking at the Apache source it keeps a list

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

If this is your problem maybe a "offical" soultion to the problem should be thought. Like in your extension you can define a priority for loading and unloading your extension in the ini. Kinda like init.d. Has there been any discussion about this topic before. - brad --- Brian France <[EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] DOMXML Function consistency

Excellent, looks like this bug report is getting some limelight. While we are on the topic, I just wanted to put in a small plea. I realize that we want to map close the W3C, but I have a small request. Don't deprecate get_content(). I realize it is not a well know W3C standard, but there is a

[PHP-DEV] Zend Engine expert wanted!!!!

Zend Engine unloading extension in the wrong order! (Re-post due to no response) I have been tracking down a core dump with my php extension when it is unloading some of its shared libraries. I have shared extension that is link against libexpat and will load fine if it is the only on in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

> OO IS OO... JUST BECAUSE JAVA IS OO DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE SUGGESTING MAKING JAVA > AGAIN. WE ARE SUGGESTING MORE OO FEATURES. Please Pleas Please realize the > difference. Im sick of people associating oo features as java features! > > Making php more like java would be suggesting making a public

RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

--- "Preston L. Bannister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ilker Cetinkaya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > [snip] > > but after getting known of the ze2 features, I personally saw PHP finally > > growing out of that "PHP, language for kiddies"-image. > > IMHO PHP is a real good language for its t

[PHP-DEV] Berkeley db4 support?

hi, since the "with-db" 'general' config option has been deprecated, what's the status of db4 support? i've searched the lists and perhaps am missing something .. but i find *no* mention of db4 at all! can someone provide -- or point me in the direction of -- some insight on php4-current

RE: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

From: Ilker Cetinkaya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [snip] > but after getting known of the ze2 features, I personally saw PHP finally > growing out of that "PHP, language for kiddies"-image. > IMHO PHP is a real good language for its target purpose, but it has > potential to be much better. PHP is

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/mysql/libmysql charset.c config-win.h ctype.c dbug.c dbug.h default.c dll.c errmsg.c errmsg.h get_password.c global.h libmysql.c list.c m_string.h mf_casecnv.c mf_dirname.c mf_format.c mf_path.c my_compress.c my_create.c my_getwd.c my_init.c my_lib.c my_malloc.c my_open.c my_pthread.c my_pthread.h my_realloc.c my_static.c my_sys.h my_tempnam.c my_thr_init.c my_wincond.c my_winthread.c my_write.c mysql.h mysql_com.h mysql_version.h mysqld_error.h net.c raid.h strmake.c strto.c strtoll.c strtoull.c thr_alarm.h violite.c

Zak Greant wrote: > Log: > Updating embedded libmysql to version 3.23.48 libmysql.lib(my_thr_init.obj): error LNK2001: Unresolved external symbol _win_pthread_init libmysql.lib(my_thr_init.obj): error LNK2001: Unresolved external symbol _pthread_cond_init libmysql.li

[PHP-DEV] oo != php

i don't get it, ze2 introduces private members, consts, statics, namespaces, delegation (and thus mi), class in class. and all this stuff because it don't wants to be another java sebastian is currently working on a book for php-oo, wants to show us how design patterns are realized with

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

At 06:14 PM 6/7/2002, Jason T. Greene wrote: >True, I hear it is even possible to reuse code in COBOL : ) > >I believe that the ease of maintenance depends purely on the language. >i.e. using a strictly procedural language for a large framework can be >quite messy. Have you ever seen large librari

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

At 05:46 PM 6/7/2002, Joseph Tate wrote: >How much of C has been reused, and reused and reused again? There is no oo >in stdlib. Exactly. C is one of the easiest languages for code reuse, but it totally depends on your programming habits and skill. As a matter of fact, I find Java to be one

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in thefuture

True, I hear it is even possible to reuse code in COBOL : ) I believe that the ease of maintenance depends purely on the language. i.e. using a strictly procedural language for a large framework can be quite messy. Have you ever seen large libraries written in perl that consistently call "require

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

How much of C has been reused, and reused and reused again? There is no oo in stdlib. > -Original Message- > Code reusability is a psychological issue. You can reuse code in PHP 4, > and it'll be even better in 5 - PEAR is a clear demonstration of > this. Whether people actually end up

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

Code reusability is a psychological issue. You can reuse code in PHP 4, and it'll be even better in 5 - PEAR is a clear demonstration of this. Whether people actually end up reusing code depends on the way they code, very little does it depend on the language. Zeev At 05:27 PM 6/7/2002, Jas

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Introducing EXCPLICIT

--- Ilker Cetinkaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nevermind, you're not the first one who says stop using php if you > want oo > and strong types aso aso. I fail to see how you have to switch to another language to program in an object-oriented environment. I think that PEAR and the hundreds of o

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in thefuture

IMO, one of the big reasons for having a powerful OO mode, and continually evolving php to have a bigger target than just "a web programming language", is code re-usability. You can design a nice consistent Framework, and easily rollout web, gui, and back end applications all using the same frame

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

--- Dan Hardiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 19:59 schrieb Dan Hardiker: > >> I sit in many PHP channels (IRC), and observe many class-based > >> PHP networks (php-classes.org is one I monitor closely) and > >> can say definatly that the majority of PHP users wan

Re: [PHP-DEV] DOMXML Function consistency

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Garland foster wrote: > The DOM level 1 W3C's recommendation specifies node_name, node_type and > node_value, > I'd like the DOMextension to map the W3C spec as close as possible. but it's at least a DOM level 2 W3C recommendation: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/core.h

Re: [PHP-DEV] DOMXML Function consistency

Hi I have no problem with that, but the old functions should not be deprecated, it's the W3C-Standard way. And if i understood it correctly, both methods (name and nodeName) can be used for the same... chregu On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Joseph Tate wrote: > A bug report or two have been made regarding

Re: [PHP-DEV] DOMXML Function consistency

The DOM level 1 W3C's recommendation specifies node_name, node_type and node_value, I'd like the DOMextension to map the W3C spec as close as possible. I'd even recommend not implementing the suggested functions as alises since that would encorage non-standard DOM applications. - Original Mes

[PHP-DEV] DOMXML Function consistency

A bug report or two have been made regarding function names in attribute nodes. Taking a look, nodes have the following access functions: node_name node_type node_value etc. However attribute nodes have the following access functions: name value specified I am thinking that to make it more c

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

> Am Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 19:59 schrieb Dan Hardiker: >> I sit in many PHP channels (IRC), and observe many class-based >> PHP networks (php-classes.org is one I monitor closely) and >> can say definatly that the majority of PHP users want *more* >> OO capabilities in PHP. [..] > So when user

[PHP-DEV] Registering classes in PHP extension

Hi. Any manual about registering classes in PHP extension? I found that the function zend_register_internal_class can do that. And I read some code in ext/ that contaings that function, but I can hardly understand that code. Any manual or tutorial about that topic? Thanks. -- PHP Developmen

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] PHP in the future

Am Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 19:59 schrieb Dan Hardiker: > I sit in many PHP channels (IRC), and observe many class-based > PHP networks (php-classes.org is one I monitor closely) and > can say definatly that the majority of PHP users want *more* > OO capabilities in PHP. From a marketing POV, wh

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] New function implode_multi

On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 11:02:45AM +0200, Markus Fischer wrote : > Hi, > > On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:49:21AM +0200, C. McCohy wrote : > > > $fruits = array('banana', 'orange', 'apple'); > > $vegetables = array('carrot', 'cabbage', 'cucumber'); > > $favorite_food = 'icecream';

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] New function implode_multi

Hi, On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:49:21AM +0200, C. McCohy wrote : > $fruits = array('banana', 'orange', 'apple'); > $vegetables = array('carrot', 'cabbage', 'cucumber'); > $favorite_food = 'icecream'; > > $all_day_food = implode_multi(', ', $fruits, $vegetables, $favorite_foo

[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] New function implode_multi

Hi there, while creating some stuff in PHP, I needed the PHP function implode() work like Perl function join, so that the first argument of the function is glue and an unlimited list of other arguments is made of arrays and strings. So I made a new function called implode_multi (with an alias j

[PHP-DEV] Re: Introducing EXCPLICIT

j, nevermind, you're not the first one who says stop using php if you want oo and strong types aso aso. my decision is not only reasoned by your reply. sorry for dropping just a single line - i had to leave my desk regards, ilker "J Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECT