RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-04 Thread Acer
Acknowledging the problem is the first step in recovery. -Original Message- From: Michael Geier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 4, 2002 2:22 AM To: Acer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding Acer, Did you ever consider the fact that ASP, JSP and CF

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-04 Thread Acer
First I don't know who Nick is, never meet him and just stumbled onto his project. He created phpa (http://www.php-accelerator.co.uk) and is used by yahoo. He has built the encoder (http://www.php-encoder.com) from his experience in phpa so it being in beta or not is up to you to evaluate. Now

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-04 Thread Acer
. And thanks for reading my mind, there's like 3 of you on this list. Do you do partys? -Original Message- From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 4, 2002 3:09 AM To: Acer; php Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding on 04/08/02 3:55 PM, Acer ([EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-04 Thread Acer
No we shouldn't criticise a commerical company because I never hear bad things about Microsoft on here. -Original Message- From: David Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 4, 2002 3:54 AM To: 'Acer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding I know I

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-04 Thread Acer
]] Sent: August 4, 2002 10:55 AM To: Acer Cc: Justin French; php Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding Just a couple of facts: 1. If Zend did not exist, PHP 4 wouldn't have existed, at least not in any way similar to what PHP 4 looks like today. FYI, with PHP 3, it was impossible to write

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
There is a free php accelerator so I don't know why you would pay for one. www.php-accelerator.co.uk The same guy (Nick) has also just made an encoder. It is in beta testing right now and there's no windows version yet but that should be coming soon. I think it's like $0.50 to encode your

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
Message- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 1:04 PM To: Acer Cc: Dennis Moore; Andrey Hristov; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding You'll never hear anything from the core php group since they are a tight click so it's business as usual

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
into their products to justify the price. Plus, these guys are the ones building php so something is not right. -Original Message- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 1:04 PM To: Acer Cc: Dennis Moore; Andrey Hristov; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
Scott wrote: You're kidding, right? When was the last time you saw one the creator of ASP on a mailing list personally answering code questions? Call me a cynic but to maintain your status as php god you have to contribute to the list so you can sign a book deal. Scott wrote: For what it's

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
Okay great let me change my opinion to php is being built by 600 people who do a lot of infighting. I feel much better. -Original Message- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 1:50 PM To: Acer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
it is now so you can't have it both ways. -Original Message- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 2:06 PM To: Acer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding Because it is a silly thread and I shouldn't be replying at all. Others

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
. - Original Message - From: Acer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:48 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding Scott wrote: You're kidding, right? When was the last time you saw one the creator of ASP on a mailing list

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
okay you say zend gave me php and rasmus says 600 people gave me php. you guys need to get your story right. -Original Message- From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 9:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
shop and bye bye zend. -Original Message- From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 9:50 PM To: Acer; Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Dennis Moore; Andrey Hristov; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding on 04/08/02 3:30 AM, Acer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
you guys are the ones in denial and can't stand that someone is disagreeing with you. -Original Message- From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 3, 2002 10:03 PM To: Acer; Danny Shepherd Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding on 04/08/02 8

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
, 2002 11:18 PM To: Acer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding 1. You complain about Zend charging for a product when someone else has created an equivalent open source product. 2. You support ColdFusion and ASP when someone else has created an equivalent open source

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
if you can't debate the issues then get out. -Original Message- From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 4, 2002 12:00 AM To: 'Acer'; 'Justin French'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding Acer, Give it up. We are tired

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
are the best! keep up the good work! -Original Message- From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 4, 2002 12:22 AM To: 'Acer'; 'Justin French'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding Acer, I can, we all can, but this is OFF-TOPIC. You

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
... that was your own decision. Good luck in your life you poor, poor soul. -Original Message- From: Acer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Justin French'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; php- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP

RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding

2002-08-03 Thread Acer
) encoder it might change but I don't know if it's too late. -Original Message- From: Maxim Maletsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 4, 2002 1:26 AM To: 'Acer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Protect PHP coding It hurts no one. Believe me. Do what. Download PHP package