Re: [PHP] I need some thoughts on code duplication and separation

2010-10-21 Thread Peter Lind
On 21 October 2010 04:59, David McGlone da...@dmcentral.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 04:05 +0200, Rico Secada wrote: Hi. I am working on a small system where I am both trying to avoid code duplication and at the same time I am trying to keep the presentation logic separated from the

Re: [PHP] I need some thoughts on code duplication and separation

2010-10-21 Thread a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
Bit late to this one, but what about an mvc framework like codeigniter? It's perfectly acceptable to use if statements and loops in the view, which would solve your problem. You can set a trigger variable in the controller, and in the header view, check to see if its set and output your

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Russell Dias
preg_match(/false/i, $string) ? false : true; On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote: Is there any nice way to convert a string containing either TRUE or FALSE to a bool with the appropriate value? I know I can just if (strcmp... but, as the song goes on to

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
That's as bad as an if! What about using settype() on the string? I've not tested it, but it looks like it should do the trick. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk - Reply message - From: Russell Dias rus...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 10:51 Subject: [PHP] My truth comes

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Russell Dias
I'm curious to know why 'thats as bad as an if' ? It's simple, concise, understandble and does the job. So, I'm curious to know why exactly its bad? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:01 PM, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: That's as bad as an if! What about using settype()

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
Because it is an if statement, just in a different form, and preg_match is more computational expensive than a direct string comparison. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk - Reply message - From: Russell Dias rus...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 11:03 Subject: [PHP] My

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Russell Dias
Whats wrong with an if *construct* ? I understand that the ternary operator is another way of doing it. Using it in such a small scenario is perfectly justifiable. Its ridiculous to use in more complicated scenarious because of readability issues. Direct string comparison? You suggested yet

Re: [PHP] Weird Behavior

2010-10-21 Thread Alexander Schrijver
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 07:02:49PM -0400, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Hm I guess the little person inside, just hates the long way of doing something. My suggestion $CD = 1287583899; $q1s = 1283313600; $q1e = 1291093200; $q2s = 1291179600; $q2e = 1298869200; $q3s =

RE: [PHP] Re: My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Jason
-Original Message- From: Gary [mailto:php-gene...@garydjones.name] Sent: 21 October 2010 11:39 To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: My truth comes out [1] Russell Dias wrote: preg_match(/false/i, $string) ? false : true; , | $foo = (strcmp('true', $string) == 0); `

Re: [PHP] Re: My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Russell Dias
I would stay clear of the ternary operator in nested coditions, for obvious reasons. If it can fit in a single line and is essentially clear in its message I dont see why not to use it. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote: Russell Dias wrote:

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Alexander Schrijver
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 08:15:40PM +1000, Russell Dias wrote: Whats wrong with an if *construct* ? I understand that the ternary operator is another way of doing it. Using it in such a small scenario is perfectly justifiable. Its ridiculous to use in more complicated scenarious because of

RE: [PHP] Re: My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] preg_match(/false/i, $string) ? false : true; , | $foo = (strcmp('true', $string) == 0); ` works as well :) I don't like those kinds of things for this purpose because it takes longer for people new to the code to read and understand it than, say , | (boolean) $string; `

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 October 2010 10:39, Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote: Is there any nice way to convert a string containing either TRUE or FALSE to a bool with the appropriate value? I know I can just if (strcmp... but, as the song goes on to say ...ugly, so ugly, it's ugly[1] Footnotes: [1]  

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 October 2010 10:39, Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote: Is there any nice way to convert a string containing either TRUE or FALSE to a bool with the appropriate value? I know I can just if (strcmp... but, as the song goes on to say ...ugly, so ugly, it's ugly[1] What is the response

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 October 2010 12:42, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 October 2010 10:39, Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote: Is there any nice way to convert a string containing either TRUE or FALSE to a bool with the appropriate value? I know I can just if (strcmp... but, as the

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Midhun Girish
Really interesting thread :D . Why go for other methods when you can do it easily using if Is this an exercise or something? Midhun Girish Development Lead MobAlive Technologies Trivandrum

Re: [PHP] Re: My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-10-21 06:39 AM, Gary wrote: Russell Dias wrote: preg_match(/false/i, $string) ? false : true; , | $foo = (strcmp('true', $string) == 0); ` works as well :) I don't like those kinds of things for this purpose because it takes longer for people new to the code to read and

[PHP] A mysql question...

2010-10-21 Thread Midhun Girish
hai all, I have two tables a and b as follows to implement a simple block list where users can block other users. Table A ++--+--+ | Name | phone |userid| ++--+--+ | Mr Sasi | 01225 708225 | 1 | | Miss Brown | 01225 899360 | 2 | |

Re: [PHP] A mysql question...

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 October 2010 14:13, Midhun Girish midhungir...@gmail.com wrote: | Name | phone |userid| ++--+--+ | Mr Sasi | 01225 708225 | 1 | | Miss Brown | 01225 899360 | 2 | | Mr Black | 01380 724040 | 3 | ++--+--+ Table B

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread chris h
settype looks like a no-go for this; per the php docs... http://php.net/manual/en/function.settype.php -- $bar = true; // boolean settype($bar, string); // $bar is now 1 (string) -- I think using a conditional here is the best (only?) way. $bool = (strtolower($string)=='true')? true:

RE: [PHP] Re: My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] You removed the text in my post that you replied to which said I was just wondering whether I had missed some construct in the language. [/snip] Yes, I read that and snipped it. I was just referring to the readability statement. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] Re: My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-10-21 09:24 AM, Gary wrote: Jay Blanchard wrote: You could even create a function that is more readable than the 'if' alone; Of course I can. I could also record an explanation, convert it to mp3, host it on a website, and include the URL in a comment. You removed the text in my post

Re: [PHP] Independent Contractor Suggestions

2010-10-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 08:08:21PM -0400, music...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I'm currently working on a medium sized project as an independent contractor. The project is reaching the 2000 hour range and the client has asked for a project cost. The problem I have in providing the client

[PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Brown
Hey, Folks; Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day: it is one of the rules of this and all official php.net mailing lists that you must not top-post. For anyone wondering just one of the reasons why we have this rule in effect, tab through this thread in

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:25 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Hey, Folks; Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day: it is one of the rules of this and all official php.net mailing lists that you must not top-post. For anyone wondering just one of the reasons why

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:25 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Hey, Folks;     Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day: it is one of the rules of this and all official php.net mailing lists

Re: [PHP] Re: Independent Contractor Suggestions

2010-10-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:47:12PM -0700, Kris Craig wrote: Hi musicdev, There are a couple issues I think need to be addressed with what youd described.  First and foremost, $20/hr is considerably below the going rate for PHP work, especially for projects as large as the one you're

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:30, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the move or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email client doesn't allow reply positioning of any sort, so it's always

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:37 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:30, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the move or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email client

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:34, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote: iphone has the same problem. Cutting and pasting is the only way that i have of dealing with it...and I do try to accommodate that when i can I wonder if we have any lurking iPhone and/or Android app developers here who

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-10-21 10:25 AM, Daniel Brown wrote: P.S. - Those of you who have been around for years will likely recall with some fondness the level of respect, participation, and quality of discussions this list once had; the degree of mutual respect and camaraderie was palpable. If you're

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :| Same here, but isn't it a bit eerie that many of us hit that same

Re: [PHP] I need some thoughts on code duplication and separation

2010-10-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:05:50AM +0200, Rico Secada wrote: Hi. I am working on a small system where I am both trying to avoid code duplication and at the same time I am trying to keep the presentation logic separated from the application logic. I am using sessions and are avoiding

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|  

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 October 2010 15:53, Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote: Parenting ruins everything ;-) Ideally, yes. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] I need some thoughts on code duplication and separation

2010-10-21 Thread David McGlone
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 08:01 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: On 21 October 2010 04:59, David McGlone da...@dmcentral.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 04:05 +0200, Rico Secada wrote: Hi. I am working on a small system where I am both trying to avoid code duplication and at the same time I am

RE: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] . [/snip] Fondly remembers mailing list guidelines that used to go out about once a week when someone would send them, including the section that said something to the effect of; Why? Top posting is bad! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:30:03PM +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: [snip] I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the move or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email client doesn't allow reply positioning of any sort, so it's always

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Jason Pruim
On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47:53AM -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|

RE: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I still hop on threads from time to time, just a lot more picky about which ones any more. ducks [/snip] I seem to go through phases, but I always read. I had gotten away from everyday coding due to work needs (leading a team of PHP'ers) but have always tried to keep learning. I may have

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 09:37:16AM -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 11:58 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:30:03PM +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: [snip] I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the move or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email client

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 12:14 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47:53AM -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts have dwindled

Re: [PHP] Returning results

2010-10-21 Thread Jim Lucas
Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:04, Bastien phps...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it's got a few downsides! The next app for the iPhone should be a modification to the spell-check to verify PHP functions in emails. +1 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] My truth comes out [1]

2010-10-21 Thread Adam Richardson
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote: Is there any nice way to convert a string containing either TRUE or FALSE to a bool with the appropriate value? I know I can just if (strcmp... but, as the song goes on to say ...ugly, so ugly, it's ugly[1] Footnotes:

[PHP] Re: Zip files: generate text file in archive on the fly

2010-10-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
I found this terrific tool for creating dynamic zip files: http://pablotron.org/software/zipstream-php/ -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread sueandant
- Original Message - From: Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net To: PHP General php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:25 PM Subject: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules Hey, Folks; Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day: it is one

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, sueandant hollandsath...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Hi I'm not familiatr with the term top-post; could you please explain? http://idallen.com/topposting.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Peter Lind
On 21 October 2010 16:25, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: * snip *    The ultimate goal here isn't to start a flame war (or even any further discussion on the subject for that matter), but to point out that this is a RULE of the official community here, not a PREFERENCE. If only the

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Brown
This is top-posting. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 15:37, sueandant hollandsath...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I'm not familiatr with the term top-post; could you please explain? What you did, posting your message at the end of the email, is in adherence with the rules. -- /Daniel P. Brown

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Per Jessen
sueandant wrote: Hi I'm not familiatr with the term top-post; could you please explain? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=top-post -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.7°C) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Shreyas Agasthya
Let's adhere to the rules. --Shreyas On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: sueandant wrote: Hi I'm not familiatr with the term top-post; could you please explain? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=top-post -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.7°C) -- PHP General Mailing

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Michael Shadle
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: http://idallen.com/topposting.html top posting is no big IMHO. in fact, it's easier to read on mobile devices such as an iphone. it's also easier to reply. email clients like google will hide the common lines

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: in fact, it's easier to read on mobile devices such as an iphone. it's also easier to reply. email clients like google will hide the common lines anyway. to me this comes on the heels of a presentation i just read

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Alexis
Ok, I agree with most of those points, but why should I, or anyone, have to trim down someone else's 'signature', and I'm talking about these silly ones which are 10 or 20 lines long stating 'If you have received this email in error.blah, blah, blah'..surely, the banning of that, along

RE: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Orwellian! [/snip] Nazi's did it! Why? Top posting is bad! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 October 2010 21:01, Jay Blanchard jblanch...@pocket.com wrote: [snip] Orwellian! [/snip] Nazi's did it! !Godwin! -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Michael Shadle
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: um, right, the whole point is that the conversations are not being viewed through mail clients when people are finding them via search engines on the web. and some mail clients are dumber than others, lol. a lot of

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: um, right, the whole point is that the conversations are not being viewed through mail clients when people are finding them via search

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Michael Shadle
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: what does syntax highlighting have to do w/ a mess of text that could be sorted out by folks willing to take the extra 2 seconds to put their thoughts at the bottom of a mail? i doubt there are any web-based lists

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: what does syntax highlighting have to do w/ a mess of text that could be sorted out by folks willing to take the extra 2 seconds to put their

Re: [PHP] Re: Independent Contractor Suggestions

2010-10-21 Thread Kris Craig
I've had a few emails from people making the same request, so what I'm gonna do is stick them up someplace public like SourceForge or whatever in the public domain for anyone who wants them. Legal disclaimer: Please note that, though these have been reviewed by the legal departments of my past

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Marc Guay
Toilet seat. Up or down. Same thing? Sort of. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] DomDocument - a parsing question [php can do it better than Perl]

2010-10-21 Thread jobst müller
hello dear List i have a Problem with the Parsing of a html-document: I tried to run the following perl parser script on the HTML further below... but i was not lucky - so now i want to try it with PHP - i head about DomDocument - this should save my backside i have to get involved with

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: what does syntax highlighting have to do w/ a mess of text that could be sorted out by folks willing to take the extra 2 seconds to put their

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Michael Shadle
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: i've found top-posting to be useful in the corporate environment where the people i'm working with are too ignorant to understand the rationale.  however, when you're working with programmers, i think the expectation

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: i've found top-posting to be useful in the corporate environment where the people i'm working with are too ignorant to understand the

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 18:24, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: note, that i take the time to bottom-post and clean up emails when i have time, but if i don't, i don't. people discuss things for discussion, they don't discuss things because they care how it is placed. that's like

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Bastien
On 2010-10-21, at 6:24 PM, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: i've found top-posting to be useful in the corporate environment where the people i'm working with are too ignorant to understand the rationale.

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Michael Shadle
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote:    Unfortunately, Michael, while I appreciate your analogy (rarely is something well-balanced between wit, truth, and vivid imagery enough to make me laugh at the mental picture), I must point out that, in this case, you're

Re: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 19:18, Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com wrote: Don't let it die like Perl has! (ha, ha) ?php $perl ='PERL' #!/usr/bin/perl my $pun = $?; die Great pun! unless $pun = 0; PERL; $filename = dirname(__FILE__).'/tmp-'.sha1(time()).'.pl'; file_put_contents($filename,$perl);

[PHP] Convert hex string to hex value?

2010-10-21 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi, I must be tired because I can't figure this out... I am sure it is something obvious. I need to pass a hex value to a method, but I can't figure out how to convert a hex string to a hex value. For exmaple: $base = '96989b' my_method('0x' . $base) The above does not work with my_method().