Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:13 -0400, tedd wrote: > At 8:27 AM -0400 4/21/10, David McGlone wrote: > >I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I can't > >pinpoint whether it's because the list is set up to make replies go to > >the OP or the OP has his reply-to in his mail clien

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Per Jessen
David McGlone wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 17:07 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: >> David McGlone wrote: >> >> > Also, I do not want this discussion to turn into a flame war or >> > anything of such. I am simply just trying to have a discussion and >> > learn why and how there is different behavior he

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread tedd
At 8:27 AM -0400 4/21/10, David McGlone wrote: I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I can't pinpoint whether it's because the list is set up to make replies go to the OP or the OP has his reply-to in his mail client set, or most people are hitting the reply-to button in

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 17:07 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > > Also, I do not want this discussion to turn into a flame war or > > anything of such. I am simply just trying to have a discussion and > > learn why and how there is different behavior here, but not anywhere > > else

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Per Jessen
David McGlone wrote: > Also, I do not want this discussion to turn into a flame war or > anything of such. I am simply just trying to have a discussion and > learn why and how there is different behavior here, but not anywhere > else. David, the PHP list behaves like hundreds or thousands of oth

RE: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Tommy Pham
> -Original Message- > From: daniel.egeb...@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.egeb...@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Daniel Egeberg > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:40 AM > To: Tommy Pham > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up) >

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:20, David McGlone wrote: > > I just received 3 copies of this message. One went to my PHP folder and > 2 went to my Inbox. It was sent multiple times. Probably an intentional demonstration of irony. ;-P -- daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://ww

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Egeberg
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 16:32, Tommy Pham wrote: > I'm sure that the reason why the this list and a few others are setup this > way so that if anyone want to reply just to the OP can do so without having > to figure out or remembering the e-mail address of the sender. Yes, plus many of the peop

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Egeberg
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 16:12, Hans Åhlin wrote: > 2010/4/21 David McGlone : >> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: >>> On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: >>> > Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by >>> > multiple e-mail lists? >>> > It feels lik

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Michiel Sikma
On 21 April 2010 15:41, Dan Joseph wrote: > When you hit reply all, just take out all the other addresses and leave the > list one in there. The list was setup like this years ago on purpose, and > they've stated in the past they don't want to change it.. > > -- > -Dan Joseph > > I'd like to ref

RE: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Tommy Pham
I'm sure that the reason why the this list and a few others are setup this way so that if anyone want to reply just to the OP can do so without having to figure out or remembering the e-mail address of the sender. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://w

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 16:12 +0200, Hans Åhlin wrote: > 2010/4/21 David McGlone : > > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: > >> On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: > >> > Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by > >> > multiple e-mail lists? > >> > It f

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Peter Lind
On 21 April 2010 14:56, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 08:56 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > >> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:42 +0200, Daniel Egeberg wrote: >> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 14:27, David McGlone wrote: >> > > I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Hans Åhlin
2010/4/21 David McGlone : > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: >> On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: >> > Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by >> > multiple e-mail lists? >> > It feels like it's more problem to change the way for thousands of >>

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Hans Åhlin
2010/4/21 David McGlone : > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: >> On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: >> > Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by >> > multiple e-mail lists? >> > It feels like it's more problem to change the way for thousands of >>

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:41 -0400, Dan Joseph wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:33 AM, David McGlone wrote: > > > I'm not passing judgment, It just saddens me that I have to send > > multiple messages and this isn't because of anyone, it's because of my > > lack of knowledge on how to reply to l

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Robert Cummings
Peter Lind wrote: On 21 April 2010 15:41, Dan Joseph wrote: When you hit reply all, just take out all the other addresses and leave the list one in there. The list was setup like this years ago on purpose, and they've stated in the past they don't want to change it.. And waste time every sin

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Robert Cummings
David McGlone wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 11:34 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote: On 21 April 2010 11:23, David McGlone wrote: Why is the list set up to reply to the OP and not the list? -- Blessings, David M. Is it? I didn't notice. I just use "reply to all" which puts the list in the CC, and

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:41, Dan Joseph wrote: > > When you hit reply all, just take out all the other addresses and leave the > list one in there.  The list was setup like this years ago on purpose, and > they've stated in the past they don't want to change it.. And we won't, but that does

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Peter Lind
On 21 April 2010 15:41, Dan Joseph wrote: > When you hit reply all, just take out all the other addresses and leave the > list one in there.  The list was setup like this years ago on purpose, and > they've stated in the past they don't want to change it.. And waste time every single time you pos

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Dan Joseph
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:33 AM, David McGlone wrote: > I'm not passing judgment, It just saddens me that I have to send > multiple messages and this isn't because of anyone, it's because of my > lack of knowledge on how to reply to lists that are set up in this way. > But I think the "reply to l

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:19 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: > >> On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: > >>> Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by > >>> multiple e-mail lists? > >>> It feel

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:56 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 08:56 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:42 +0200, Daniel Egeberg wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 14:27, David McGlone wrote: > > > > I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Ken Kixmoeller
Daniel Egeberg wrote: Then get a better email client if yours doesn't support "reply to all" or "reply to group". It's hardly the mailing list's fault that your client doesn't support that. Nonsense. I have used lists like this for many, many years. PHP lists are the only ones I have ever use

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Robert Cummings
David McGlone wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by multiple e-mail lists? It feels like it's more problem to change the way for thousands of users just to satisfy a

RE: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Bob McConnell
From: David Robley > Ashley Sheridan wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:00 +0200, Nick Balestra wrote: >> >>> Not really i think, because by replying it just direct reply to the OP, >>> while other systems like google groups for example by replying you just >>> post to the list, and actually make

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Robert Cummings
Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Hi, I think the problem or the bad form, if you will, is using reply-all. All you need to do is hit reply and it should just send a message back to the list. Everyone gets the list messages. If the reply-to is not set, type in the list email in the to and the reply-to

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 08:56 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:42 +0200, Daniel Egeberg wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 14:27, David McGlone wrote: > > > I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I can't > > > pinpoint whether it's because the list is

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: > On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: > > Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by > > multiple e-mail lists? > > It feels like it's more problem to change the way for thousands of > > users just to satisfy a couple

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:49 +0200, Peter Lind wrote: > On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: > > Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by > > multiple e-mail lists? > > It feels like it's more problem to change the way for thousands of > > users just to satisfy a coupl

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:42 +0200, Daniel Egeberg wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 14:27, David McGlone wrote: > > I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I can't > > pinpoint whether it's because the list is set up to make replies go to > > the OP or the OP has his reply-t

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Peter Lind
On 21 April 2010 14:38, Hans Åhlin wrote: > Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by > multiple e-mail lists? > It feels like it's more problem to change the way for thousands of > users just to satisfy a couple of few. David was venting based on a discussion in another th

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Hans Åhlin
Why change the way that has been around for years and adopted by multiple e-mail lists? It feels like it's more problem to change the way for thousands of users just to satisfy a couple of few. ** Hans Åhlin Tel: +46761488019 http://www.kronan-net

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Egeberg
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 14:27, David McGlone wrote: > I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I can't > pinpoint whether it's because the list is set up to make replies go to > the OP or the OP has his reply-to in his mail client set, or most people > are hitting the reply-

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread Per Jessen
David McGlone wrote: > I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I > can't pinpoint whether it's because the list is set up to make replies > go to the OP or the OP has his reply-to in his mail client set, or > most people are hitting the reply-to button instead of simply rep

Re: [PHP] replying to list (I give up)

2010-04-21 Thread shiplu
The reply-to header should be changed to php-gene...@lists.php.net. I experience many dev list that are configured this way. So, in my gmail i change my habit to press "a" instead of "r". Shiplu Mokaddim My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http:/

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread David Robley
Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:00 +0200, Nick Balestra wrote: > >> Not really i think, because by replying it just direct reply to the OP, >> while other systems like google groups for example by replying you just >> post to the list, and actually make more sense. >> >> the ea

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Peter Lind
On 21 April 2010 12:38, David McGlone wrote: > Maybe it's not how the list is set up, but instead how people are > replying to the list. One would think that in a tech world where most programmers/developers try to minimize the workload and "a good programmer is lazy" is seen as meaningful and/or

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:00 +0200, Nick Balestra wrote: > Not really i think, because by replying it just direct reply to the OP, while > other systems like google groups for example by replying you just post to the > list, and actually make more sense. > > the easy way is to hit reply and chan

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Nick Balestra
Not really i think, because by replying it just direct reply to the OP, while other systems like google groups for example by replying you just post to the list, and actually make more sense. the easy way is to hit reply and change the "to" into php-general@lists.php.net or reply to all and rep

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Exactly. :) Karl On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:38 AM, David McGlone wrote: Maybe it's not how the list is set up, but instead how people are replying to the list. Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://ww

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Per Jessen
David McGlone wrote: > I use Evolution, Kmail, and occasionally lookout and all of them are > decent e-mail clients. Also, of all the mailing lists I am on, this is > the only one that, when replying it goes to the OP and not the list. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html I haven't che

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 05:08 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > Hi, > I think the problem or the bad form, if you will, is using reply-all. > All you need to do is hit reply and it should just send a message > back to the list. Everyone gets the list messages. > If the reply-to is not set, type in t

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:36 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 05:23 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > > > Why is the list set up to reply to the OP and not the list? > > > > -- > > Blessings, > > David M. > > > > > > > It's just standard list format I thought. A decent email

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread David McGlone
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 11:34 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote: > On 21 April 2010 11:23, David McGlone wrote: > > > > > Why is the list set up to reply to the OP and not the list? > > > > -- > > Blessings, > > David M. > > > > > Is it? I didn't notice. I just use "reply to all" which puts the list in th

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hi, I think the problem or the bad form, if you will, is using reply-all. All you need to do is hit reply and it should just send a message back to the list. Everyone gets the list messages. If the reply-to is not set, type in the list email in the to and the reply-to in your message and that

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 05:23 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > Why is the list set up to reply to the OP and not the list? > > -- > Blessings, > David M. > > It's just standard list format I thought. A decent email client will recognise the email is a mailing list one and give you the options to

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Egeberg
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:23, David McGlone wrote: > Why is the list set up to reply to the OP and not the list? Try having a look at the headers. These are the headers on the mail you sent: From: David McGlone To: PHP It is standard for an email client to reply to the email in the "From" he

Re: [PHP] replying to list

2010-04-21 Thread Michiel Sikma
On 21 April 2010 11:23, David McGlone wrote: > > Why is the list set up to reply to the OP and not the list? > > -- > Blessings, > David M. > > Is it? I didn't notice. I just use "reply to all" which puts the list in the CC, and that works just fine for me. Michiel