DASHed FLAC is working with me as well - without any delay problems.
LMS 7.9.0 via Max2Play on a RI2 in the UK with a 38Mbits broadband
connection.
I will try and listen to find out whether I can identify any musical
impact.
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Working very well here - LMS 7.9.0 on Ubuntu Server x86 14.04.05 /
player Squeezelite 1.8.6-830
Many thanks!
Phil
4x Slim Devices SB3 (White)
1x Boom, 1x Radio
1x Joggler + Squeezeplay / Squeezelite + Topping TP30
florca
I left my Touch running on Radio 3 flac, 2 minute delay, for 2.5 hours.
All went well (I wasn't listening much since that's a time of day when I
have to attend to other people!). It also seems OK thus far on 1 minute
delay.
However, with Local Player (Squeezelite) I'm still getting problems eve
Well I know that Google Chrome supports flac now, so they may be next on
the hit list :cool:
I think the BBC is really biased to Mac (especially mobile, their IOS
app requires v9, or something) and has been driving browser based
streaming for ages.
All of us with a BBC licence should get a free
Man in a van wrote:
> I think this streaming protocol will eventually become the default for
> the BBC.
Maybe but only if Apple supports DASH and Flac not just than their own
proprietary stuff. Can users play DASH streams on iPhones using Apple
own s/w ?
Is there much audio quality difference
bpa wrote:
> That's good - it means - effort not wasted just for 2 weeks test. In
> the past Proms HD has been UK only. The current test stream is
> identical for UK and non UK.
>
> BTW the 365kbps comes from BBC "bandwidth" value in the DASH
> definitiion. If it is real I'm not sure what it i
Which thread would you like the flac comments to be on - this or 3.5.2?
Anyway, I've had some strange happenings with the delay time. 1 minute
doesn't seem to work - it started saying it had a 1 minute delay, then
quickly reverted to the program title without the delay, and then
stopped playing
Working here too. UK and LMS on Windows 7.
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>
> https://www.whathifi.com/news/bbc-proms-to-be-broadcast-in-lossless-audio-first-time
>
That's good - it means - effort not wasted just for 2 weeks test. In
the past Proms HD has been UK only. The current test stream is
identical for UK and non UK.
BTW the 365kbps com
PasTim wrote:
> No, all linux ubuntu and currently using squeezelite - audio is fine.
> I'll try my Touch later.
>
> I didn't reselect the menu item the 1st time, just restarted the stream,
> so that probably why it didn't seem to take effect.
>
> I'll keep playing for a while and report any fu
Running here, LMS on rp3 Jessie-lite
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Also:
https://www.whathifi.com/news/bbc-proms-to-be-broadcast-in-lossless-audio-first-time
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bpa wrote:
> Windows base LMS ? I didn't test on Windows but since no transcoding
> (unless using an SB1) - should be no platform issue.
>
> Any audio ? If audio is playing then I'll assume all the problem are
> just related to fetch men numbers.
>
> Those setting take effect one the BBCiPlay
PasTim wrote:
> Odd, having set the delay to 2 minutes, stopped and restarted LMS, the
> title now says "BBC Radio 3 Flac : 1 mins delay"
>
> Anyway, the 404 errors have gone, and it seems to be stable and playing,
> but at start I still get
> >
Code:
> >
> [17-04-1
PasTim wrote:
> Trying now at 1 minute. Note that the errors I reported were at and
> shortly after starting playing. It then stopped after a couple of
> minutes.
>
> It's just stopped again. No error message on stopped - should I alter
> any log settings? I then got the same errors on rest
PasTim wrote:
> Trying now at 1 minute. Note that the errors I reported were at and
> shortly after starting playing. It then stopped after a couple of
> minutes.
>
> It's just stopped again. No error message on stopped - should I alter
> any log settings? I then got the same errors on rest
bpa wrote:
> Basically it says it trying to play a segment that hasn't been broadcast
> yet. Flac stream is slower to become available.
>
> Try incraseing the "second to delay live stream " value to somehting
> like 1 minute or more ansd see if it starts.,
Trying now at 1 minute. Note that the
PasTim wrote:
> Installed and started working, then:
> >
Code:
> >
> [17-04-18 15:01:53.7684] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::_parseMPD_part2 (592)
No BaseURL definition found
> [17-04-18 15:01:58.2834] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (761) Aborting
stream - fatal
bpa wrote:
> Since time is short - this is V1.5.4 quickly put together. Only change
> is for Flac.
>
> Change the plugin repo to
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/V154testrelease-repo.xml
>
> Install as usual..
>
> Two new menus "Radio 3 Flac" in Live & Live (non-UK).
Since time is short - this is V1.5.4 quickly put together. Only change
is for Flac.
Change the plugin repo to
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/V154testrelease-repo.xml
Install as usual..
Two new menus "Radio 3 Flac" in Live & Live (non-UK). This only plays
DASH-Flac form
Owen Smith wrote:
> The get-iplayer mailing list says there is only two weeks of the FLAC
> trial left.
That's what it says on the web site - I think it was a 5 month trial.
Jan-May
http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/radio-3-concert-sound
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PasTim wrote:
> I look forward to trying it :)
The get-iplayer mailing list says there is only two weeks of the FLAC
trial left.
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bpa wrote:
> I was unfamiliar with Flac frame encoding so I assumed headers needs to
> be added to Flac stream from BBC.
>
> After looking at all patches etc in Gstreamer, Firefox and found no
> evidence of additions/changes to Flac stream so I removed all the mods I
> made to BBC Flac stream su
I was unfamiliar with Flac frame encoding so I assumed headers needs to
be added to Flac stream from BBC.
After looking at all patches etc in Gstreamer, Firefox and found no
evidence of additions/changes to Flac stream so I removed all the mods I
made to BBC Flac stream such as the "streaminfo" m
PasTim wrote:
> I know almost nothing about all this, but the patch may be related to
> this https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773712 .
I'm in the same boat just trying to find changes - your link at least
has pointed to the Gstreamer patch. Now just to figure out what it does
given I
bpa wrote:
> Have tried that with avconv/ffmpeg - seems to have problems with the
> stream I supply. All goes back the small detaisl that BBC have failed
> to provide. I can't afford the time needed to scour project (firefox,
> Gstreamer) to spot code changes when a simple description is all tha
Owen Smith wrote:
> Is it possible to transcode the BBC FLAC on the LMS server? Either FLAC
> to FLAC if that's possible or if not FLAC to WAV should work. That
> should avoid needing to add extra headers.
Have tried that with avconv/ffmpeg - seems to have problems with the
stream I supply. All
bpa wrote:
> Part of the problem is there is not enough detail. With AAC, because of
> thr SB players, after unwrapping I had to add in special header
> throughout the audio stream. I have a feeling somehting similar is need
> for the SB players but I don't know Flac well to identify the exact
>
Verulamius wrote:
> There is another BBC blog on the topic of DASHed FLAC
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2017-04-radio-3-high-quality-flac-dash
>
> I don't think it says anything more, although it states they have played
> the stream on a RPI3.
Part of the problem is there is not enough detail.
There is another BBC blog on the topic of DASHed FLAC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2017-04-radio-3-high-quality-flac-dash
I don't think it says anything more, although it states they have played
the stream on a RPI3.
Verul
bpa wrote:
> DASH is chunked http - which means the audio stream is split into lots
> of segments ( small audio "files" names with an sequence number and
> extension .m4s) each one fetched by a HTTP GET. With BBC DASH AAC each
> segment is 6.4sec long. With BBC DASH Flac each segment is 3.84sec
PasTim wrote:
> I'm seeing a delay of about 90+ seconds according to the clock displayed
> on the firefox page. The network traffic is coming in bursts every 3
> seconds or so (each one rated at ~250KiB/s by my System Monitor).
DASH is chunked http - which measn the audio stream is split into l
bpa wrote:
> When playing the live BBC DASH flac stream through the plugin - there is
> a delay but not related to the startup 20 secs - so I'm guessing the 20
> secs is the time taken for an SB player to find a "good" sync point.
>
> Flac is auto syncing - there are regular sync point within
PasTim wrote:
> I'm listening to the Radio 3 track stream right now, on firefox 52.02 (a
> downloaded copy because the standard ubuntu ppa version doesn't include
> some widget or other). It seems to work fine thus far on my desktop
> ubuntu PC. As you say, being continuous they must have some
bpa wrote:
> I am not familiar with the content sent by Tidal and Qobuz but I suspect
> they play "tracks" which are essentially flac files. The BBC is
> streaming a live stream which is one continuous infinite flac file where
> there has to be to regular sync points and no obvious start or end.
PasTim wrote:
> Qobuz also stream flac, so it's clearly do-able (but I've no idea how).
I am not familiar with the content sent by Tidal and Qobuz but I suspect
they play "tracks" which are essentially flac files. The BBC is
streaming a live stream which is one continuous infinite flac file wher
TheLastMan wrote:
> The BBC time is UK local time which at the moment is UTC / GMT +1
> (British Summer Time). If your server is set to a different time zone
> then you will get these anomalies. When my server did not adjust to BST
> once all the program times were out by one hour.
>
> Sent fro
bpa wrote:
> I think this issue is ood since I believe Tidal streams Flac and there
> have been no issues reported about its streamed Flac.
Qobuz also stream flac, so it's clearly do-able (but I've no idea how).
LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 16.04, FLACs 16->24 bit,
44.1->192kbps.
LM
utgg wrote:
> Just had a little play with curl, and it looks like I can get at least
> the .mpd and 'iniurl' with http. I'll see if I can get my 'C' dash
> program to work with this...
I have some progress with Flac over DASH playing ther BBC streams.
If the stream is saved as a file - it can
slartibartfast wrote:
> I think my server time is correct since my Radio clocks are correct.
> Have you checked the Recent Tracks list recently?
No - I just got the raw data from Radio 1. You can see "generated time"
is 12:45 but played time for the track are 11:41 and 11:38 but webpage
says th
TheLastMan wrote:
> The BBC time is UK local time which at the moment is UTC / GMT +1
> (British Summer Time). If your server is set to a different time zone
> then you will get these anomalies. When my server did not adjust to BST
> once all the program times were out by one hour.
>
> Sent fro
The BBC time is UK local time which at the moment is UTC / GMT +1
(British Summer Time). If your server is set to a different time zone
then you will get these anomalies. When my server did not adjust to BST
once all the program times were out by one hour.
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Ma
slartibartfast wrote:
> I have just noticed that the "played at" times in the Recent Tracks list
> is off by an hour.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
The time is as supplied by BBC which I presume is UTC. No adjustments
are made.
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I have just noticed that the "played at" times in the Recent Tracks list
is off by an hour.
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dcassidy wrote:
> Where is this setting ...maybe I have overlooked this but I cannot seem
> to find the setting in the Settings > Plugins > BBCiPlayer
>
> Thanks
All LMS (whiuc h include plugin specific) logging can be found under
the WebUI /Setting/Advanced/Logging
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Where is this setting ...maybe I have overlooked this but I cannot seem
to find the setting in the Settings > Plugins > BBCiPlayer
Thanks
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Owen Smith wrote:
> Have people seen this FLAC trial for Radio 3
Has anyone been able to play this stream. I have the prescribed browser,
Firefox V 52.0 on my Windows 10 Desktop and Android Tablet but neither
of them offer to play the stream. Just curious.
LMS: 7.9.0 - 1484464958 @ Sat Jan
utgg wrote:
> Just had a little play with curl, and it looks like I can get at least
> the .mpd and 'iniurl' with http. I'll see if I can get my 'C' dash
> program to work with this...
I can also read the segmenbrt - so it is not limited to UK. Problem
from LMS is that the audio format is not k
bpa wrote:
> The test stream is at
> https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs.llnwd.net/al/lossless/client_manifest.mpd
>
> Not sure if it will ourtside the UK and whether ti will work as a http
> not https.
>
> If they did it properly - it could be easy. If they hacked it will be
> very hard. I
Owen Smith wrote:
> Have people seen this FLAC trial for Radio 3:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/radio-3-concert-sound/inside-story
>
> It uses Dash. How easy or hard would be it to add his to the Dash
> iPlayer plugin?
The test stream is at
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs.llnw
Have people seen this FLAC trial for Radio 3:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/radio-3-concert-sound/inside-story
It uses Dash. How easy or hard would be it to add his to the Dash
iPlayer plugin?
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LMS uses AnyyEVent for DNS resolution.
BBCiPlayer plugtin DASH 1.5.* uses an AnyEvent module to do HTTP
AnyEvent on LMS - it is setup to try to use both ipv4 and ipv6 but try
ipv4 before ipv6
LMS has its own HTTP implementation - not sure how it handles ipv4 vs
ipv6. The BBciPlayer plugin uses
richardevand67 wrote:
> Strange thing is that it works fine if I just disable IPv6 on my server.
So you think ti is the IPV6 DNS server that is causing the problem ?
I disabled IPV6 lookups on my router because it added a long timeout
which meant HTTP GET often failed because of the timeout.
Any
bpa wrote:
> 1.5.2 wont work for liove stream - you need 1.5.3
Strange thing is that it works fine if I just disable IPv6 on my server.
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richardevand67 wrote:
> OK.
>
> It did seem to be working well, as I had been trying The BBC Radio 2
> Live stream for about an hour, with no problems. Then I decided to try
> the BBC London Live stream, and it wouldn't start. So I went back to
> Radio 2 but that wouldn't start either.
>
> I'm
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It did seem to be working well, as I had been trying The BBC Radio 2
Live stream for about an hour, with no problems. Then I decided to try
the BBC London Live stream, and it wouldn't start. So I went back to
Radio 2 but that wouldn't start either.
I'm now using IPlayer 1.5.2, running on Ubu
slartibartfast wrote:
> If you want version 1.5.x then you want to add this repository
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Thankyou.
That worked.
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garym wrote:
> 1.4.10 is the latest (non-beta) version. Mine is updated and that's what
> I have (and same repository as you as well). Preference for dash stream
> is in the settings for this plugin. Click on settings next to installed
> plugin.
>
> EDIT> nevermind. I see this is in the "test
richardevand67 wrote:
> Hopefully this is the right place to post.
>
> I've been trying to update to the latest version of IPlayer.
> I currently seem to be stuck at version 1.4.10.
>
> I have
> "http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/repo-short.xml"; set
> as an additional reposit
richardevand67 wrote:
> Hopefully this is the right place to post.
>
> I've been trying to update to the latest version of IPlayer.
> I currently seem to be stuck at version 1.4.10.
>
> I have
> "http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/repo-short.xml"; set
> as an additional reposit
Hopefully this is the right place to post.
I've been trying to update to the latest version of IPlayer.
I currently seem to be stuck at version 1.4.10.
I have
"http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/repo-short.xml"; set
as an additional repository. Several times I have unticked IPla
slartibartfast wrote:
> Great stuff!! Is it in the beta repository?
Soon. 1.5.2 beta version is a bit more complicated and not ready yet.
Its error handling is bad (bacause of change to use persistent TCP) and
also needs to be fixed as it repeats HTTP request to BBC repeatedly when
an error oc
bpa wrote:
> I've just posted a fix for the Listen again problem when playing DASH
> format.
Great stuff!! Is it in the beta repository?
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bpa wrote:
> I've just posted a fix for the Listen again problem when playing DASH
> format.
Should this show as an update on the plugins page?
Perhaps you could occasionally give the current repository URL also.
ftlight's
I've just posted a fix for the Listen again problem when playing DASH
format.
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bpa wrote:
> Since you are using 1.5.2 - it would be nice if you posted on the 1.5.2
> thread as I would like this one to fall into disuse as it is too long
> and does not address current 1.5.2 and later issues.
>
> It is not clear what you mean by track info Track info. AFAICT All
> programs ha
slartibartfast wrote:
> I wonder why track info isn't available when the program image is used.
> It would be nice to have both.
Since you are using 1.5.2 - it would be nice if you posted on the 1.5.2
thread as I would like this one to fall into disuse as it is too long
and does not address curr
bpa wrote:
> Program specific info includes changing the sttaion icon into the
> program image - if you don't want the program image then you just get
> station name and station icon. I think I added track info if it was
> available and assume to be an extension of program name info.
I wonder
slartibartfast wrote:
> It seems if you deselect "Always display station icon" the track playing
> info disappears. I wasn't expecting that.
Program specific info includes changing the sttaion icon into the
program image - if you don't want the program image then you just get
station name and
slartibartfast wrote:
> I wonder what I've changed then. I have just installed a new server. I
> ticked the on air text box in the plug in and thought that was all i
> need to do.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
It seems if you deselect "Always display station icon" the track playing
in
bpa wrote:
> What version of the plugin is being used ?
> Are you playing DASH format ?
1.5.2 and DASH.
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Peter314 wrote:
> Track Playing info was working for me on Radio 2 this morning.
I wonder what I've changed then. I have just installed a new server. I
ticked the on air text box in the plug in and thought that was all i
need to do.
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description below the title.
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slartibartfast wrote:
> I was listening to Radio 2 this morning on my Radio and paused it by
> pressing the Off button. Fourty five minutes later I restarted it by
> pressing play and saw 219 minutes delay on the display. Someone else
> reported something similar earlier this week. Apart from the
I was listening to Radio 2 this morning on my Radio and paused it by
pressing the Off button. Fourty five minutes later I restarted it by
pressing play and saw 219 minutes delay on the display. Someone else
reported something similar earlier this week. Apart from the delay time
being wrong I wonde
LloydW wrote:
> Hi, BBC streaming engineer here.
>
> We've noticed a very high level of 404s for our as-dash endpoints due to
> clients attempting to load media past the live edge, and Squeezebox user
> agents seem to be a common denominator in the source devices.
>
Thanks for your comments.
Hi, BBC streaming engineer here.
We've noticed a very high level of 404s for our as-dash endpoints due to
clients attempting to load media past the live edge, and Squeezebox user
agents seem to be a common denominator in the source devices.
I took a look at the latest plugin source to try and fi
JPatten wrote:
> Now over to the network guys...
I'd be interested in their findings but will they really look into a
problem which is not strictly company work related or can it be
portrayed as a technical quirk in their network and this happens to be a
convenient example.
For support tell t
bpa wrote:
> Yes - I cannot test any UK streams. While I could give instruction on
> how to idantify what and why it works on browser - it gets very detailed
> and technical and so very difficult to do remotely and more so since you
> are using OSX which has its own quirks and I'd be guessing ho
JPatten wrote:
> All very mysterious. Will check with router/firewall guys.
>
> Are you non-UK stream only?
Yes - I cannot test any UK streams.
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bpa wrote:
> This is not a timeout issues - this is 403 - access not allowed. Code
> retries but I should really change the plugin to stop if 403.
>
> OK - your log shows that BBC won't let you play the stream with URL that
> look like
> >
Code:
> >
http://as-dash-uk-l
OK - your log shows that BBC won't let you play the stream with URL that
look like
Code:
http://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.net/pool_6/live/bbc_radio_fourfm/bbc_radio_fourfm.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourfm-audio=32.dash
I don't understand why the BBC
JPatten wrote:
> I have had to have a few goes at this. This is definitely a UK R4
> stream
>
> 21721
>From my very limited knowledge of this - possible timeout? Looking for a
quicker response than it is receiving?
JPatt
bpa wrote:
> For completeness - the log when I try to play a UK only live stream.
> Please dopuble check you have enabled logging at INFO level - it looks
> like all you are getting is normal error message without any logging
> turned on.
> >
Code:
> >
> 16-12-17 17:
For completeness - the log when I try to play a UK only live stream.
Please dopuble check you have enabled logging at INFO level - it looks
like all you are getting is normal error message without any logging
turned on.
Code:
16-12-17 17:36:08.4688] Plugins::BBCiPlaye
You are still nto giving me the logs from the start of playing the
stream which has all the important stuff. IT shoud look somehting like
Code:
16-12-17 17:30:25.6497] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (527)
Starting BBConair
[16-12-17 17:30:25.6515] Pl
bpa wrote:
> #
> THis confirms you have a problem but where is the rest of the log ? It
> should be a couple of hundred lines.
> All you have given is 6 secs. I asked from start before you press play
> to end and play at least 30 secs.
Ok there is a minute here. At 17.13 I started the strea
JPatten wrote:
> Please find log extract. The word forbidden appearing a lot...
>
> 21717
#
THis confirms you have a problem but where is the rest of the log ? It
should be a couple of hundred lines.
All you have given is 6 secs. I asked from start before you press play
to end and play at l
bpa wrote:
> OK it looks like you have a good UK connections.
>
> To enable logging use WebUI /Settings/Adavanced/logging.
>
> 1. In the logging page find plugin.bbbciplay.dash and set to INFO and
> then clikc Apply.
> 2. Note time.
> 3. Try to play a stream that you have the problem (i.e. sett
OK it looks like you have a good UK connections.
To enable logging use WebUI /Settings/Adavanced/logging.
1. In the logging page find plugin.bbbciplay.dash and set to INFO and
then clikc Apply.
2. Note time.
3. Try to play a stream that you have the problem (i.e. setting is
highest)
4. Wait 30
BPA
Please find zipped .MPD files.
Cheers
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bpa wrote:
> This problem has nothing to do with OSX or settings as long as use
> highest" is there. The list of possible rates is solely drive by what
> is in the MPD file.
>
> Since you are not familiar with logging, it is necessary to go backover
> questions I already asked but you didn't an
Owen Smith wrote:
> I suspect 32kbps is a typo for 320kbps ie. the '0' got missed. Just a
> guess.
I had thought of taht but then why does the OP say stream no longer play
highest rate (what does the OP base this on - text or hearing ?) - I
need to confirm if it is a typo or a display issue in t
I suspect 32kbps is a typo for 320kbps ie. the '0' got missed. Just a
guess.
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JPatten wrote:
> I haven't done used this procedure before. Can you give me any guidance
> or point me towards instructions please? I am better than most but not
> as technical than your good self. No changes to files have been made
> that I am aware of. Possibly an OSX update might have changed
bpa wrote:
> Setting will change nothing.
>
> You need to get a log plugin.bbciplayer.dash set to INFO of trying to
> play a station with explicit detail of what station menu you are trying
> to play and whether you made any changes to any files or menu.
I haven't done used this procedure befo
JPatten wrote:
> So maybe a Squeezebox issue. Please see my iPlayer settings page in case
> something is amiss here.
Setting will change nothing.
You need to get a log plugin.bbciplayer.dash set to INFO of trying to
play a station.
bpa wrote:
> BBC is always updating IP address which it has found are being used to
> bypass geo-ip locking.
>
> Other things to try to see if BBC thinks you are not in UK.
>
> 1. Web Based BBCiPlayer - can you play TV programs ? web based Radio
> will work for non UK (with BBC beta enabled it
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