RE: PDF to DBF

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
I looked at monarch, but I couldn't justify 600 bucks for the application I was working on, but I do hear it works well. I wound up writing my own low-level file parser too. --- Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul John, I forgot to add that the non professional version of Monarch

RE: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-06 Thread henry.dagher
I may be wrong, but I think BLAT will cover any client except OUTLOOK. If I AM wrong, I wouldn't mind learning what to tweak to get BLAT to work without an SMTP server specified. Henry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent:

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-06 Thread Gianni Turri
I'm happy with Jmail.dll, the free version. You can find it here: www.dimac.net Go to Free Downloads and download w3Jmail The installation program extract some files, but the only necessary piece is jmail.dll. Attached the function I have wrapped around it. Jmail can manage smtp

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-06 Thread Gianni Turri
I'm happy with Jmail.dll, the free version. You can find it here: www.dimac.net Go to Free Downloads and download w3Jmail The installation program extract some files, but the only necessary piece is jmail.dll. Attached the function I have wrapped around it. Jmail can manage smtp

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-06 Thread Gianni Turri
I'm happy with Jmail.dll, the free version. You can find it here: www.dimac.net Go to Free Downloads and download w3Jmail The installation program extract some files, but the only necessary piece is jmail.dll. Attached the function I have wrapped around it. Jmail can manage smtp

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-06 Thread Eyvind Axelsen
If you can use the .Net 2.0 framework (either through COM interop or the etecnologia extender), the System.Net.Mail namespace has got all you need. A simple example: SmtpClient smtpClient = new SmtpClient(smtp.someserver.com); smtpClient.Credentials = new NetworkCredential(username, password);

[ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
Some problems with file permissions on the server... seeing if they are fixed. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

Re: [ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: Some problems with file permissions on the server... seeing if they are fixed. OK, I think I got this fixed. I restored a file yesterday and forgot to set execute permission on it, preventing messages from getting archived, so

Re: [ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: there may be a gap in the archives from this. I'll try to restore them from the failure logs. The messages should be restored now. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

RE: [ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread Mike Wohlrab
Thanks for dedicating your time and machinery to this message board. It is very helpful and is being managed very well. Thank you!! Mike Wohlrab Computer Technology Solutions 585-944-3823 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ComputerTechnologySolutions.org FTP://MikeWohlrab.com On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:49 AM,

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailt

2007-04-06 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Heya Whil - exactly WHERE is the truncation happening in the program ? if it's happening right after the variable m.mailcommand receives it's value, then something else is suspect, not the mailto: interface with shellexec. What / where did you find the truncation? Can you explain a bit more

Re: [ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Mike Wohlrab wrote: Thanks for dedicating your time and machinery to this message board. It is very helpful and is being managed very well. Thank you!! Well, I don't know about the 'managed well' part when I space out on something as silly as

[OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread srussell
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html I liked the comments towards the bottom. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 4/6/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't know about the 'managed well' part when I space out on something as silly as forgetting to set an executable permission, but thanks for the kind words anyway! Don't worry it's just an age thing, Ed A+ jml

Re: [ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/6/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The messages should be restored now. Sorry for the inconvenience. Man! I can't get this kind of service from vendors I pay for the privilege of annoying me. Thanks, Ed! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

Main window does not get the Vista Areo Glass effect

2007-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
I reported another display oddity to Microsoft https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?Feedba ckID=268681 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

RE: [ADMIN] Testing

2007-04-06 Thread mrgmhale
We do what we can with what we have g... Hey, put me down as yet another raving fan of ProFox! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing On

Re: [NF] Have a good break

2007-04-06 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Michael Hawksworth wrote: too much chocolate! Oxymoron. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: PDF to DBF

2007-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
How much did it cost to write it yourself? That is, in terms of income lost. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:12 AM Subject: RE: PDF to DBF I looked at monarch, but I couldn't justify 600

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
It wasn't exactly like the girls. Maybe he has arthritis in his shoulder. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: [OT] Democrats throw like girls How would you like to have this limp-wristed guy

Re: [OT] Edwards Cashing In On Wife's Cancer

2007-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
You lost me here Michael. Why should one curl up in bed and wait to die when they find out they have cancer? Best to ignore your own fate and try to live a normal life. Imus accepts cancer kids at his ranch and treats them like normal human beings. They are expected to learn how to ride a

[OT] Contaminated Wheat Gluten?

2007-04-06 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Blech. What is the USA doing importing Wheat Gluten from China in the first place? I see where the FDA banned the import from that sole supplier in China, but geez - uh - don't we make a lot of wheat here in the USA? Ya, you can raise the 'cost' issue to make wheat gluten in the USA, but to

Re: [OT] Edwards Cashing In On Wife's Cancer

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
I didn't say, curl up, I said, travel the world. Really enjoy the end of your life. Campaigning can't be good for her, it's got to be putting a lot of stress on her. It's quite possible her last breaths will be taken with him on the road somewhere. That's no way to treat your spouse. ---

Re: [OT] Contaminated Wheat Gluten?

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
It's possible the Chinese were selling it under cost to grab a chunk of the American market. --- William Sanders / EFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blech. What is the USA doing importing Wheat Gluten from China in the first place? I see where the FDA banned the import from that sole

RE: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Mike Wohlrab
I may be a Mature 16 year old young adult, but is it only me that sees something wrong with making fun of somebody else? Maybe he had an off day or an off throw? How would you feel if you were throwing pitch infront of thousands of baseball fans live, with who knows how many people watching live

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Mike Wohlrab wrote: I may be a Mature 16 year old young adult, but is it only me that sees something wrong with making fun of somebody else? What's wrong is mistaking the drivel spewed by idiots as actual substance. Just ignore the small-minded. -- Ed

RE: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Sorry Kid, it's funny! The man is Mayor of Cincinnati, he's used to big crowds and TVs, so it wasn't stage fright that made him throw like a girl. --- Mike Wohlrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be a Mature 16 year old young adult, but is it only me that sees something wrong with making

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
He can't very well ignore the list owner, can he? --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Mike Wohlrab wrote: I may be a Mature 16 year old young adult, but is it only me that sees something wrong with making fun of somebody else? What's wrong is

Re: [OT] Re: Contaminated Wheat Gluten?

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
That's a good idea. We can become Gluten kings. --- William Sanders / EFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez. What goes around comes around. I feel stupid, the quotas were removed in the first place. http://canberra.usembassy.gov/hyper/2001/0604/epf102.htm But in the same breath - this was

Checking VFP Bug Reports (Thanks Tracy Pearson!)

2007-04-06 Thread William Sanders / EFG
I had looked at TP's bug report and got to thinking - Man - there's gotta be a way to search for the big list of VFP bug reports that are stored there, right? I did a search on connect.microsoft.com + foxpro, starting accumulating things, but ... one of the hits was a Craig Bailey BlogPost

Re: PDF to DBF

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
If it was for a paid project, I would have used monarch and passed the cost to the customer, but it was for an unpaid project for myself. --- Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much did it cost to write it yourself? That is, in terms of income lost. - Original Message -

Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Carl had posted this on VFUG. It's worth the 30 seconds it takes you to enter your name!! You know the outcome if you do nothing...M$ won't change...and many could say that no matter what, they won't...but what have you got to lose except 30 seconds!?!? Perhaps as futile as the VB6

RE: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread mrgmhale
Thanks! FWIW I signed it. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Signing the VFP petition Carl had posted this on VFUG. It's worth the 30

RE: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
I'm curious. Can anyone name a single instance in the history of man where an on-line petition made a difference? --- mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! FWIW I signed it. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MB

RE: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Hal Kaplan
= I'm curious. Can anyone name a single instance in the = history of man where an on-line petition made a difference? Yes. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

RE: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Hal Kaplan
=  = Carl had posted this on VFUG. It's worth the 30 seconds it = takes you to enter your name!! You know the outcome if = you do nothing...M$ won't change...and many could say that = no matter what, they won't...but what have you got to lose = except 30 seconds!?!? Perhaps as futile as

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
mrgmhale wrote: My understanding is that there is no licensing restriction on sending it out to my clients. Correct. No licensing to PostgreSQL from you or client. You can charge for your app, however (of course). Gil This might be beating an old horse, but how does Postgre

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: Hopefully this will cut down on spam. Graphics-based spam has the potential of really clogging up the Internet. I'd say that most of my incoming spam is graphics-based. Mostly stock junk, and then mens sexual enhancement stuff. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB

Re: [NF] Those responsible for patching the patch have been sacked.

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote: Interestingly, the Hhctrl.ocx they refer to is the HTML Help display, a wrapper around the IE HTML Help rendering engine. Now, who thought it was a good idea to embed a browser in the operating system again? Wasn't that the whole crux of what Bill Gates said to

RE: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread mrgmhale
AFAIK, it was developed in a university environment, so development cost were intially an academic matter (so to say). As with many Open Source projects the money is not made in the license fees, but rather in the fees collected for consulting and creation of viable applications. We should be so

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
mrgmhale wrote: snipped IMHO, Free Best Value, but it sure gets there faster than Multi-$$$. On that note, do you think Oracle, SQL Server, and other multi-$$$ rdbmses are worried about the open source offerings? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Chet Gardiner wrote: What he said. I could probably dig up some code for using blat if you need it. Contact me offlist... Likewise, I use blat inside the open source offering I put on Ed's site last year: http://tinyurl.com/2wezrn* * -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions,

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Michael Madigan wrote: I'm curious. Can anyone name a single instance in the history of man where an on-line petition made a difference? 1215 Magna Carta 1776 Declaration of Independence 1905 Bloody Sunday ??? Whil ___ Post Messages to:

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread Bill Anderson
MB Software Solutions wrote: mrgmhale wrote: snipped IMHO, Free Best Value, but it sure gets there faster than Multi-$$$. On that note, do you think Oracle, SQL Server, and other multi-$$$ rdbmses are worried about the open source offerings? Probably not as much as you

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: I'm curious. Can anyone name a single instance in the history of man where an on-line petition made a difference? I can't (although Robert Green said the Report Designer would never be changed...and gladly he was wrong...perhaps that was due to the Wiki

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Hal Kaplan wrote: = = Carl had posted this on VFUG. It's worth the 30 seconds it = takes you to enter your name!! You know the outcome if = you do nothing...M$ won't change...and many could say that = no matter what, they won't...but what have you got to lose = except 30

Re: The Community is bigger then you think

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen Russell wrote: Yesterday we were discussing the FP community. Today I am interviewing for another contract gig. The person in charge of the interview was a former member of our FPUG back before it closed down in 98/99/00??? He nor this job have anything to do with FP. It's a SQL

RE: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread john harvey
I did too. It didn't like my url though and I had used a contraction which caused an error in the script due to the ' which they didn't account for. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:23 PM To:

RE: The Community is bigger then you think

2007-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
He's definitely got a line of bull.. I'm thinking about hiring him for my agent.. Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4799 Fax (830) 864-4726 Home http://www.bierschwale.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Who or what is this Postgre SQL that you're referring to? From the nature of your question, it seems you're referring to an entity like a human being or a company. I thought PostgreSQL was a hunk of software, and, as such, didn't really have a significant need for

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Individuals that make up the core development team of PostgreSQL all have positions with companies that pay them a salary. Tom Lang, who heads the core development of PostgreSQL is an employee of Red Hat Linux for example. Although Tom works for Red Hat, his position with them is closely

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Individuals that make up the core development team of PostgreSQL all have positions with companies that pay them a salary. Tom Lang, who heads the core development of PostgreSQL is an employee of Red Hat Linux for example. Although Tom works for Red Hat, his

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Chet Gardiner
Not to mention: 1996: Ban Bob Petition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bobboot1.png /Microsoft Bob/ was intended to be a user-friendly interface for Microsoft Windows version 3.2, replacing the /Program Manager http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_Manager/. The project was at one

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Chet Gardiner
It didn't like my website URL either. Maybe because I'm retired from computer programming? john harvey wrote: I did too. It didn't like my url though and I had used a contraction which caused an error in the script due to the ' which they didn't account for. JH -Original Message-

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
The core team was picked around a design to protect PostgreSQL, and insure the continuance of PostgreSQL. For example, each member of the core team works for a separate company, so it Microsoft acquired Red Hat and Tom Lang, it wouldn't have much effect on the overall support for the product,

RE: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Stephen the Cook
Nicholas Geti wrote: It wasn't exactly like the girls. Maybe he has arthritis in his shoulder. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: [OT] Democrats throw like girls How would you

RE: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Apr 6, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Mike Wohlrab wrote: I may be a Mature 16 year old young adult, but is it only me that sees something wrong with making fun of somebody else? What's wrong is mistaking the drivel spewed by idiots as actual substance. Just ignore the

RE: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Jerry Wolper
I may be a Mature 16 year old young adult, but is it only me that sees something wrong with making fun of somebody else? When you do something in front of a stadium full of people (and a large television audience), you have to live with the result, whatever it may be. As a big city mayor, I'm

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Jerry Wolper wrote: When you do something in front of a stadium full of people (and a large television audience), you have to live with the result, whatever it may be. As a big city mayor, I'm sure Mark Mallory gets grief about a lot more than his pitching.

RE: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Mike Wohlrab
I apologize for the long response!! What I'm doing on ProFox is learning different programming languages and programs as I am interested in getting into the computer industry, and am in a Internship With Mr. Gilbert Hale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) where he is teaching me all that he knows about the

RE: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Bill Arnold
Thanks for the heads up, Mike. I was thinking about responding to your post the other day wondering how I could still be so enthusiastic about FoxPro, but didn't because I felt like I'd be repeating stuff already said, which I already do enough of :) The part that I really like about this

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Mike Wohlrab wrote: What I'm doing on ProFox is learning different programming languages and programs as I am interested in getting into the computer industry, and am in a Internship With Mr. Gilbert Hale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) where he is teaching me all

RE: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Bill Arnold
It didn't like my website URL either. Maybe because I'm retired from computer programming? You have to add the HTTP:// part Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

RE: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Mike Wohlrab
Ed, I have not gotten into Python yet, but I do have an interest in learning what there is to be learned. Are you interested in being my third mentor and teach me Python? I am up to the task if you are... ;) It's not my fault that my parents taught me manners! Mike Wohlrab Computer Technology

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Helio W.
Suzanne Spinelli, Middlebury, Connecticut I agree with the scientist in the report, however, why is it only Judeo/Christian creation myth that can be 'real.' There are many different creation myths from the past until the present. I think it is offensive to negate all those other myths for the

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
MB Software Solutions wrote: Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Who or what is this Postgre SQL that you're referring to? From the nature of your question, it seems you're referring to an entity like a human being or a company. I thought PostgreSQL was a hunk of software, and, as such, didn't

RE: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-06 Thread mrgmhale
Nope. To each their own. I love the freedom to choose what I feel will work best, most cost effectively for my clients. Hence, VFP. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:55 PM To:

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Vince Teachout
Hal Kaplan wrote: = I'm curious. Can anyone name a single instance in the = history of man where an on-line petition made a difference? Yes. Cite? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Vince Teachout
I tend to agree with Snopes that on-line petitions are worth the paper they're signed on. But I signed it anyway. BTW, besides the http:// requirement, it chokes on apostrophes in the comments, as well. :-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Vince Teachout
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: I'm curious. Can anyone name a single instance in the history of man where an on-line petition made a difference? 1215 Magna Carta 1776 Declaration of Independence 1905 Bloody Sunday ??? Damn, I've forgotten more of my

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 7:38 PM, Helio W. wrote: Dr. Collins' reasoning that there's no conflict between science and faith is very weak. Myth and science don't mix. There is no conflict. Faith addresses areas beyond the reach of science. If it makes you happy to believe that after you die

[OT] the day when it all changes ...

2007-04-06 Thread Bill Arnold
... will come when TV becomes an extension of the Internet; when gone and buried forever are the advertisements disguised as news, and a new information system, where facts, information and real debate, emerges. The question we should be asking ourselves is: how can we make this happen BEFORE

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Helio W.
The non-overlapping magisteria issue. You've sided with Stephen Jay Gould and I've sided Richard Dawkings! I used to think as you do, Ed! But I got convinced by The God Delusion. In the book Dawkins argues that god's existence (or not) can be approach as a scientific hypothesis. On 4/6/07, Ed

Re: [OT] Welcome to the list

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Mike Wohlrab wrote: I have not gotten into Python yet, but I do have an interest in learning what there is to be learned. Are you interested in being my third mentor and teach me Python? I am up to the task if you are... ;) I can certainly help, as

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
I think it's child abuse, teaching the kid a dead language. LOL --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Jerry Wolper wrote: When you do something in front of a stadium full of people (and a large television audience), you have to live with the result,

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
What I want you to do is keep repeating Jesus is a myth over and over again. That way as you take your last dying breaths on your death bed, you can say that as you descend into Hell. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suzanne Spinelli, Middlebury, Connecticut I agree with the scientist

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:28 PM, Helio W. wrote: I used to think as you do, Ed! But I got convinced by The God Delusion. In the book Dawkins argues that god's existence (or not) can be approach as a scientific hypothesis. Scientifically you cannot disprove a negative. You can determine

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Al Gore invented the Internet way back in 1215? --- Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: I'm curious. Can anyone name a single instance in the history of man where an on-line petition made a difference? 1215 Magna Carta 1776 Declaration of

Re: The Community is bigger then you think

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Armed guards remove him from the premises usually no more than 3 or 4 weeks from the beginning of the project. --- MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Russell wrote: Yesterday we were discussing the FP community. Today I am interviewing for another contract gig. The

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-06 Thread Kevin Cully
I have set up a rule in Thunderbird that automatically routes these emails to the trash for me. My life has gotten much better once I instituted that rule. Here's the article that describes how to do it: http://compserv.physics.harvard.edu/imagespam -Kevin CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Clippy later filed a sexual harassment suit against Microsoft claiming anti-Gay discrimination. They settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money. --- Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention: 1996: Ban Bob Petition

Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Aren't most petition sites just a way to collect valid email accounts for targeted marketing? --- Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to agree with Snopes that on-line petitions are worth the paper they're signed on. But I signed it anyway. BTW, besides the http://

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Helio W.
Ed, But superstitious people are always trying to convert people and influence everybody's lives. From taking money from naive people with stupid self-help gibberish to trying to prevent stem-cell research, these people are very active. How can we tolerate and fight ignorance at the same time?

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Helio W. wrote: But superstitious people are always trying to convert people and influence everybody's lives. From taking money from naive people with stupid self-help gibberish to trying to prevent stem-cell research, these people are very active. How can we

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-06 Thread Vince Teachout
Kevin Cully wrote: I have set up a rule in Thunderbird that automatically routes these emails to the trash for me. My life has gotten much better once I instituted that rule. Here's the article that describes how to do it: http://compserv.physics.harvard.edu/imagespam Awesome! Thank

RE: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Bill Arnold
Similarly, I am already satisfied that there is no Allah, no Zeus, no Jove, no Yahweh, no Jesus, no Krishna, no Mithras... they are all myths. Ed, but it seems that you don't seem to have lost your curiosity. I wonder: have you taken a look into Jung's exploration of the unconscious and

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Helio W.
LOL On 4/6/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Helio W. wrote: There are many things that you can do to stop these assholes, but appealing to their reason just doesn't strike me as the best bet. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

RE: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Bill Arnold
Ed, but it seems that you don't seem to have lost your curiosity. Bad wording :) I wonder: have you taken a look into Jung's exploration of the unconscious and the archetypes, one of which is the God image? After clicking SEND I realized I should have closed with the answers come from

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: Ed, but it seems that you don't seem to have lost your curiosity. I wonder: have you taken a look into Jung's exploration of the unconscious and the archetypes, one of which is the God image? A long time ago, yes. But to be honest, it

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: I wonder: have you taken a look into Jung's exploration of the unconscious and the archetypes, one of which is the God image? After clicking SEND I realized I should have closed with the answers come from within. Of course. That was one

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 06 April 2007 7:00 pm, Mike Wohlrab wrote: I apologize for the long response!! snip So for about a year and a half to two years I have been driving a half hour one way to his place of busines Hi Mike! Tender age to be driving at all let alone a half hour commute. -- Regards, Pete

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Helio W.
Bill, maybe you'll find this article interesting: Darwin's God By ROBIN MARANTZ HENIG God has always been a puzzle for Scott Atran. When he was 10 years old, he scrawled a plaintive message on the wall of his bedroom in Baltimore. God exists, he wrote in black and orange paint, or if he

Re: [OT] the day when it all changes ...

2007-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 06 April 2007 8:16 pm, Bill Arnold wrote: ... will come when TV becomes an extension of the Internet; when gone and buried forever are the advertisements disguised as news, and a new information system, where facts, information and real debate, emerges. The question we should be

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 06 April 2007 9:00 pm, Helio W. wrote: Ed, But superstitious people are always trying to convert people and influence everybody's lives. From taking money from naive people with stupid self-help gibberish to trying to prevent stem-cell research, these people are very active. How

Re: [OT] Why this scientist believes in God

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Ever meet a nice Atheist? I haven't. Must be pretty sad going through life not believing anything other than you're no better than food for worms after you die. I betcha Atheists have a high suicide rate too. --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 06 April 2007 9:00 pm, Helio

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
They never tell you that after you take the male enhancement stuff, that you spend a fortune in getting underwear that fits. --- MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Hopefully this will cut down on spam. Graphics-based spam has the potential of really

RE: [OT] the day when it all changes ...

2007-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Bill, I'm really getting worried about you. I control what I watch or what I don't watch. These same people that you so despise buy the same stuff we do and eat the same stuff we do. They put their pants on one leg at a time, same as we do. These priests that you are talking about are decimating

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
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Re: Signing the VFP petition

2007-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Bill Arnold wrote: Thanks for the heads up, Mike. I was thinking about responding to your post the other day wondering how I could still be so enthusiastic about FoxPro, but didn't because I felt like I'd be repeating stuff already said, which I already do enough of :) Bill, You are

Re: [OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-06 Thread SanAndreas
Most of the time My loving parents drove me to the internship and when got my permit in June of 2006 I started to get experience and when they felt I was comfortable driving, they would let me drive while they were the passenger. When I received my License 9 months later in May, they allowed me to

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