[OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
'To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible,' he says http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16611409/from/RS.3/ Okay then, here's a 15 point plan for those who say they oppose the war, but then can't figure out what to say when asked for a plan. 1. Put the neocon gangleaders on trial

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Bill Arnold wrote: 'To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible,' he says http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16611409/from/RS.3/ This is the ultimate in silliness. There have been several proposals that Bush has dismissed out-of-hand because

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
'To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible,' he says http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16611409/from/RS.3/ This is the ultimate in silliness. There have been several proposals that Bush has dismissed out-of-hand because they don't match his. Of course, because the

Re: Vfp 10

2007-01-14 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ajoy, I am tempted to buy a upgrade for Vfp 9. Highly recommended. Then download service pack 1. What about Vfp 10. The next version of VFP is coded named Sedna. It will probably be an add-on to VFP 9 rather than an entirely new version of VFP. Check the Microsoft Visual FoxPro pages for

[NF] IE7 and MS Virtual Earth Mapping conflict with FireFox

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
Ran into a problem yesterday that might affect others, so will mention. I'm using the MS Virtual Earth mapping service (customized based on Dave Crozier's example), and it worked fine, but this week my customer started getting 'access denied' messages when using it. Yesterday we sorted it out.

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Bill Arnold wrote: Of course, because the central component of any real, workable plan would start with making him and his gang culpable. I disagree. I can't believe that our troops who are there would rather wait and continue to be stuck in the middle of

RE: Vfp 10

2007-01-14 Thread Rick Schummer
If you want the current future of VFP as Microsoft declares it, go directly to the VFP Roadmap for their disclosure: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/roadmap/ I second Malcolm's recommendation for xFRX if you are looking for Excel output of your reports. Rick White Light Computing, Inc.

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
Of course, because the central component of any real, workable plan would start with making him and his gang culpable. I disagree. I can't believe that our troops who are there would rather wait and continue to be stuck in the middle of a civil war while we figure out how to

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Bill Arnold wrote: The thing is that the invasion resulted in civil war, so we're now obliged to stop the fighting. That's a load of crap. We didn't cause the civil war; the roots of that go back a long time. The other countries in the area saw the

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
The thing is that the invasion resulted in civil war, so we're now obliged to stop the fighting. That's a load of crap. We didn't cause the civil war; the roots of that go back a long time. The other countries in the area saw the fall of Saddam as an opportunity to advance

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Bill Arnold wrote: While we can blame the gas or the match, one thing we can't do is just walk away as if we had no part it in. Even if walking away, as you dismissively phrase it, would improve the situation? We don't belong there. It's not

[NF] Web site statistics package

2007-01-14 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
Hey - -- - - Just curious whether you have any recommendations about freeware web server statistics packages for my W2K server. I currently use the combination of Analog and ReportMagic, but I find it counterintuitive. I have to relearn it each time, as there is some process I need to do

RE: [NF] Web site statistics package

2007-01-14 Thread john harvey
I use nTop. It gives me a graphical look at what's going on with my webserver. I also have a product that will let me kill someone's connection if I think they need to be blacklisted. I can see who is hitting the server and what ports they are attempting to access, etc. I highly recommend the

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
While we can blame the gas or the match, one thing we can't do is just walk away as if we had no part it in. Even if walking away, as you dismissively phrase it, would improve the situation? I want us out of there as much as you do, but I believe passions are stirred and

Re: [NF] Web site statistics package

2007-01-14 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Jan 14, 2007, at 11:26 AM, john harvey wrote: I use nTop. Thanks, John -- I'll check it out. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Jeff
forest and trees I have seen way too many people ignoring some basic facts to why we are over there to begin with. 9/11 wasn't the first time we came across terrorism, it was just the first time that massive non combatant 'Infidel' were visual reported of Americans. The list is long of our

[OT] MS certs - I'm on the way

2007-01-14 Thread Jeff
Some months ago, I asked the group about Microsoft certifications - your response was the catalyst that I needed. Even though I've been studying for over a year, I just didn't schedule an exam, didn't get serious enough with it. But I took one [70-229 - Designing and Implementing Database with

[NF] Scanning software, etc on a Mac

2007-01-14 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Due to a sudden catastrophic event on another machine, I am forced to undertake a sizable scanning project (min. 200 8 1/2x11, up to 800 pages) with my Mac. Powerbook G4, Mac OS X 10.3.9 Reco's for scanning software? I hooked my scanner up to the box and the scanner wasn't even noticed. There

Re: [NF] Scanning software, etc on a Mac

2007-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Reco's for scanning software? I hooked my scanner up to the box and the scanner wasn't even noticed. There also wasn't any applet in System Prefs - just Printers Fax - which I thought was... peculiar. Does the

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Michael Madigan
Thanks Jeff. Sometimes you wonder if some of the people on this list wouldn't enjoy the rest of their life better in some other country. What's keeping them here? Isn't it immoral for them to remain in such a terrible place? I think maybe they should move to France. --- Jeff [EMAIL

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
forest and trees I have seen way too many people ignoring some basic facts to why we are over there to begin with. 9/11 wasn't the first time we came across terrorism, it was just the first time that massive non combatant 'Infidel' were visual reported of Americans. The list is long of

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Bill Arnold wrote: I want us out of there as much as you do, but I believe passions are stirred and wills are steeled, way beyond the climate that produced the 9/11 attack. If we had 10 thousand enemies then, we have a million now. Sure, I'm making these numbers up, but the point is that we

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Jeff wrote: forest and trees I have seen way too many people ignoring some basic facts to why we are over there to begin with. 9/11 wasn't the first time we came across terrorism, it was just the first time that massive non combatant 'Infidel' were visual reported of Americans. The list is

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: Thanks Jeff. Sometimes you wonder if some of the people on this list wouldn't enjoy the rest of their life better in some other country. What's keeping them here? Isn't it immoral for them to remain in such a terrible place? I think maybe they should move to

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Bill Arnold wrote: It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't control a commodity that the whole world has developed a dependence on. Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in the mid 70's, it sent shock waves through out the entire world economically speaking. Double digit

Re: [NF] Scanning software, etc on a Mac

2007-01-14 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 14, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Reco's for scanning software? I hooked my scanner up to the box and the scanner wasn't even noticed. There also wasn't any applet in System Prefs - just Printers Fax - which I thought was... peculiar.

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
I agree! But, still, that house is burning now, and we've got to come up with a way to put it out in such a way that we don't wind up with a million people on a mission to hurt us. It is not your business to put away the fire. Enough damage you've already done. And there already are

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't control a commodity that the whole world has developed a dependence on. Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in the mid 70's, it sent shock waves through out the entire world economically speaking. Double digit inflation, double digit

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Lets just say that we fall for this foolishness and we do it. And while we're making mistakes, lets assume that a court finds that they did nothing wrong . Whats next after this witch hunt ? Do we go after bill arnold because we all were foolish enough to follow him ? Somewhere the voice of

Re: [NF] Web site statistics package

2007-01-14 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: Hey - -- - - Just curious whether you have any recommendations about freeware web server statistics packages for my W2K server. I currently use the combination of Analog and ReportMagic, but I find it counterintuitive. I have to relearn it each time, as

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Bill Arnold
Lets just say that we fall for this foolishness and we do it. And while we're making mistakes, lets assume that a court finds that they did nothing wrong . Whats next after this witch hunt ? Do we go after bill arnold because we all were foolish enough to follow him ? Virgil, if you

Re: [NF] Scanning software, etc on a Mac

2007-01-14 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 14, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Oh well. This scanner isn't found. Versiontracker had way too much stuff to wade through. I thought that there wasn't any software for Macs. ;-) I think that's just propaganda. They do have a search

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Bill, you're missing several points: 1. These democratic senators told ya'll they would do what you wanted so that they could get elected because they know that ya'll will do nothing to get rid of them and because they are unaccountable. I don't blame ya'll however because republicans operate the

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Helio W.
Come onn Virgil, would you let other countries pursue their economic interests freely without US intervening? OK, maybe you would, but US elites wouldn't. It's not so simple as that. Reality is a big mess. On 1/14/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what its

[OT] Finally, something to agree on

2007-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ta/2007/ta070114.gif -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

DBC V DBF

2007-01-14 Thread Sytze de Boer
For better or worse, I have always made my programs with free standing tables. I'm developing a new package that requires me to to also open 5 tables from another system that uses a DBC (inside of which are some 75 tables) I know some of you will laugh, but how do I open THOSE 5 tables , PLUS my

Re: DBC V DBF

2007-01-14 Thread Grigore Dolghin
In the same way you are opening yours. There is no need to open the database first - it will open automatically. On 1/14/07, Sytze de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For better or worse, I have always made my programs with free standing tables. I'm developing a new package that requires me to to

RE: DBC V DBF

2007-01-14 Thread john harvey
Try the Open database (databasename) shared to open the dbc, then Use table1 in 0 Use teble2 in 0 Etc John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 8:51 PM To: profox@leafe.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: DBC V DBF

2007-01-14 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
I know some of you will laugh, but how do I open THOSE 5 tables , PLUS my own tables ? Only the ignorant and arrogant will laugh. The rest of us look at the 1000 pg Hacker's Guide to VFP 6, then think about the hundreds of commands, functions, and other features added since 6.0, and

Re: [OT] the root of our problem

2007-01-14 Thread Pete Theisen
On Saturday 13 January 2007 7:49 am, Bill Arnold wrote: snip The status-quo media barons (the small handful of people who control with broad strokes what most people see on their TV and newspapers) each pretend to offer exactly this formula today, but in fact what they actually deliver is

Re: [OT] the root of our problem

2007-01-14 Thread Pete Theisen
On Saturday 13 January 2007 8:46 am, Bill Arnold wrote: A major example of what I'm saying, which I should have mentioned, is Bush's recent speech. While listening to it, I found myself really wanting that, for each point he made, equal space existed - in that same space - for

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 14 January 2007 7:58 am, Bill Arnold wrote: 'To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible,' he says http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16611409/from/RS.3/ Okay then, here's a 15 point plan for those who say they oppose the war, but then can't figure out what to say when

RE: DBC V DBF

2007-01-14 Thread john harvey
True. I've even seen Calvin be surprised by something Fox would do. Nobody knows it all. Everyone is ignorant, just on different subjects. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:34 PM

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 14 January 2007 3:10 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip it's just my view of the issue and as I live in a free country (Argentina) I'm entitled to it and to express it. Anyway I guess I'm in for some flak. Hi Ricardo! Yawn! Nothing you haven't delivered yourself of before. -- Regards,

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Michael Madigan
Put him in a home for his own safety. Hi Bill! Put you on trial for propaganda. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

2007-01-14 Thread Michael Madigan
I betcha Bush can get into Canada. --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2007 8:33 am, Bill Arnold wrote: snip Of course, because the central component of any real, workable plan would start with making him and his gang culpable. Hi Bill! How about if we

Returned Messages From Profox

2007-01-14 Thread Dave Crozier
Today I received 2 x failed message email regarding messages that I sent to Profox some time ago and which appeared correctly on the List some time ago. Has anyone else had this happen? The returned message is sent with the Attached Error Message below: This is the mail system at host