On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:14 +0100, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm
wrote:
Pete
I just set up a new Ubuntu virtual machine with Python and the Wing IDE
installed last week with the intention of restarting my Python learnin'.
Tip - when upgrading Ubuntu 8 to 9, where it's instaleld in a
When I went from 7 to 8 I put my home folder in its own partition. Now
I can upgrade and don't lose anything in my home directory, like my
virtual box files.
Jeff
Jeff Johnson
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Alan Bourke wrote:
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:14 +0100,
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:40 -0700, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:
When I went from 7 to 8 I put my home folder in its own partition. Now
I can upgrade and don't lose anything in my home directory, like my
virtual box files.
I presume you're talking about a Linux host Jeff? In my case
You read my mind :) That and TRIM this morning.
Al
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Pete
I just set up a new Ubuntu virtual machine with Python and the Wing IDE
installed last week with the intention of restarting my Python learnin'.
I've haven't installed Dabo under Linux for a while so I don't remember
the exact procedure but I'll do it on this VM sometime next week and
post
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Michael Madigan wrote:
You, simply put, are an asshole. LOL
Hi Michael!
Well, back to dabo: Have YOU installed it? I read the python book,
interesting, but not anything about dabo in it. I
Character assassination as a new programming technique
Bit harsh imo.
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, Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:28 AM
Character assassination as a new
programming technique
Bit harsh imo
Just a bit?
Al
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Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
Character assassination as a new programming
Pete: When I started working with Linux (Ubuntu) I didn't have a plan
on where to put the parts of Dabo. Windows pretty much directs where to
put stuff and usually provides an installer. Linux - once you
understand a little about where to put stuff is really not that
difficult. The hard
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
I have to agree with Jean on this. I don't see why the need to
belittle a guy who is obviously a computer hobbyist dabbling in
programming. If he's annoying you, just don't answer his questions. I
didn't read anything disparaging about Dabo that required
Paul McNett wrote:
You are not an active member of our vibrant community, but
more like a troll.
I don't understand what you want from us. To install Dabo using Subversion on
Linux:
Hi Paul!
My goodness, I do apologize! :-)
Thanks for the tip on installation, I see from your input that
Alan Bourke wrote:
I just set up a new Ubuntu virtual machine with Python and the Wing IDE
installed last week with the intention of restarting my Python learnin'.
I've haven't installed Dabo under Linux for a while so I don't remember
the exact procedure but I'll do it on this VM sometime
Dave Crozier wrote:
You constantly mouth off about the evil Satan without any substantiated
cause and now that you have discovered open source suddenly this new world
is full of crap. Maybe, just maybe you have what we call a PICNIC problem,
OK, maybe you missed it, it was a long time ago. I
Bob Calco wrote:
Pete -- whose only experience is FoxPro -- was correct to choose this
list to ask his Dabo questions under the [NF] banner
snip
has anyone ever installed this before), but that's Pete, who was
clearly being facetious if not self-ironic to anyone who knows his
colloquialisms
of everything can we.
Matter now closed.
Dave Crozier
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Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
Dave Crozier wrote:
You constantly mouth
Bob Calco wrote:
Paul and Dave really ought to be ashamed. Pete -- whose only experience is
FoxPro -- was correct to choose this list to ask his Dabo questions under
the [NF] banner for two important reasons:
No, he should have continued asking on dabo-users, the appropriate forum for
Dave Crozier wrote:
Anyway, best of luck and if I can be of any help than just ask.
What is the Data Environment he is using in this video? He says
Windows XP but that is a broad topic. Heck, is he in FoxPro?
OK, kidding . . .
http://demoserver.dabodev.com/dataenvironment1.html
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Regards,
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote:
Dave Crozier wrote:
You constantly mouth off about the evil Satan without any substantiated
cause and now that you have discovered open source suddenly this new world
is full of crap. Maybe, just maybe you have what
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Pete,
Sorry if I was a bit harsh and I apologise if my comments came over
that
way. As I say there is as much help out there as you
Stephen Russell wrote:
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote:
Dave Crozier wrote:
You constantly mouth off about the evil Satan without any substantiated
cause and now that you have discovered open source suddenly this new world
is full of crap. Maybe,
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
Alan Bourke wrote:
General availability of 95 stopped in 2000, and OEM builder availability
in 2001.
It was not great, but better than Windows For Workgroups 3.11 by a long
way!
Hi Alan!
I didn't even try ME.
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Pete
http
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Gilbert M. Hale
mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
But the damned things are so solid I never have to reconfigure
them. Hence when I set up a new machine with new shares it is like learning
all over again!
Gil
I do have the same problem...
A+
jml
Paul McNett wrote:
Pete Theisen wrote:
So, what is the environment on the screen that looks so much like VFP?
It is in the videos, on Mac and XP.
It is the class designer.
cd dabo/ide
python ClassDesigner.py
Hi Paul!
Thanks. That works. Pretty, too.
Next Social Security check I
General availability of 95 stopped in 2000, and OEM builder availability
in 2001.
It was not great, but better than Windows For Workgroups 3.11 by a long
way!
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alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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What is a 501 (c) (3) project?
Non-profit organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)
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Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
Alan Bourke wrote:
General availability of 95 stopped in 2000, and OEM builder
availability
in 2001.
It was not great, but better than Windows
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote:
What year did M$ say you couldn't use 95 anymore and the minimum you
could put on a machine was 98?
Hi Stephen!
It was around 01, 02, 03 - really don't remember. I do remember the
machines we had been donated
Gilbert M. Hale wrote:
I, for one, certainly do not understand everything I know about those
technologies I (try to) harness. Usually I do try to dig the info out on my
own, and often get bloodied in the process. But every once in a while I do
cast out a request for guidance. Pete, if I had
Thanks
John Weller
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j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote:
What is a 501 (c) (3) project?
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Is it true ? I want to put an old copy of 95 on so I can play tomb raider
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A quick rehash in event dates for me please.
What year did M$ say you couldn't use 95
Alan Bourke wrote:
General availability of 95 stopped in 2000, and OEM builder availability
in 2001.
It was not great, but better than Windows For Workgroups 3.11 by a long
way!
Hi Alan!
I didn't even try ME.
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http://pete-theisen.com/
http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
What is a 501 (c) (3) project?
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to $400 within 30 days. Grrr...
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Gilbert M
Paul McNett wrote:
Dabo is *not easy* to use, if you aren't willing to first spend some time
learning
Python. I don't believe I've ever portrayed Dabo as having a shallow learning
curve.
Hi Paul!
Dabo is the easy to use, cross-platform, 3-tier, open source desktop
database development
Stephen Russell wrote:
It was around 01, 02, 03 - really don't remember. I do remember the
machines we had been donated wouldn't run 98.
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OK that is what I thought. Considering what was happening in the
industry at that time with respect to viruses and OS security I have
to agree with
John Weller wrote:
What is a 501 (c) (3) project?
What the Beetles song Band on the Run called a registered charity
:-)
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Pete Theisen wrote:
So, what is the environment on the screen that looks so much like VFP?
It is in the videos, on Mac and XP.
It is the class designer.
cd dabo/ide
python ClassDesigner.py
Paul
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Gilbert M. Hale
mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Such memories. I remember trying to keep punch cards in order in the
60s. I said *trying*.
Not that long before my little foray into the middle of the brewing storm.
I am kind of glad I missed that part of the
Stephen Russell wrote:
I think we date ourselves with the first first monitor(s) you worked
with, were you green or amber?
My first modem was 300 baud dealing with compuserve that was their speed. ;)
First disk was punch cards. First I bought was double sided single
density! First
The system I used first (1977) didn't even have a monitor! Everything was
done using teletypes connected to the mainframe by an acoustic coupler which
made playing Star Trek (the only game available) very interesting but at
least it gave you time to think! The first computer I owned was a
Pete Theisen wrote:
Paul McNett wrote:
Pete Theisen wrote:
So, what is the environment on the screen that looks so much like VFP?
It is in the videos, on Mac and XP.
It is the class designer.
cd dabo/ide
python ClassDesigner.py
Hi Paul!
Thanks. That works. Pretty, too.
Next
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Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:39 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Gilbert M. Hale
mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Such memories. I remember trying to keep punch cards
John Weller wrote:
The system I used first (1977) didn't even have a monitor! Everything was
done using teletypes connected to the mainframe by an acoustic coupler which
made playing Star Trek (the only game available) very interesting but at
least it gave you time to think! The first
JVP !
--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:
From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
To: profox@leafe.com
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 9:05 AM
Pete: When I started working
with Linux (Ubuntu) I didn't have a plan
on where to put
At 2009-04-24 19:51, John Weller wrote:
The first computer I owned was a Sinclair ZX81 with a wobbly 16k RAM
pack, a cassette player as storage and a TV for a display - happy days!
You lucky bastard!
I only had the standard 1k RAM...
**
* Dan Olsson
*
Paul McNett wrote:
Ok, on the one hand I'm glad you finally figured out how to get it working.
On the
other hand I'm still kind of peeved about your tactics.
Hi Paul!
Sorry once again for riling you up. I was tearing my almost non-existent
hair out. I probably should have given more
Gilbert M. Hale wrote:
Green or amber? Neither. My first PC actually a c80 color monitor. I also
splurged and got a Hayes internal 1200b modem! Had nothing to connect to
for a long time. But I had the hottest modem in the world!
Hi Gil!
Ever seen VFP 5 on Win 95 on a Hercules adapter
Paul:
Pete came to Profox via me. He was referred to me by another FoxPro guy
back in the
running VFP on WINE days. He wanted me to spend all kinds of time
getting Linux
installed and WINE installed and kept asking questions already answered
in the papers
I'd published, etc. I referred him
Bob Calco wrote:
I obviously don't know the history of your interaction with Pete, or why
your opinion of him goes so deep
Hi Bob!
Oh, he's right, I have been a pain in everyone's whatever. Not only
that, in a way, it is all for nothing, since the charity application
won't benefit anyone
Unlike some other folks in ProFox I never did Hercules g...
Gil
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Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:20 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go
, 2009 1:52 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
Bob Calco wrote:
I obviously don't know the history of your interaction with Pete, or
why
your opinion of him goes so deep
Hi Bob!
Oh, he's right, I have been a pain in everyone's whatever. Not only
Gilbert M. Hale wrote:
Just hope I'm not stealing too many CPU cycles :-)
Just make certain you are using 100% green recycled electrons, and you will
be fine.
Hi Gil!
I'd be embarrassed to tell you how many of those donated-to-our-charity
machines are in the landfill. They were still
Pete:
Hi Bob!
Thanks for chiming in.
I ordinarily wouldn't -- you being a big boy and all -- but Paul was so far
out of line I felt compelled to respond. Even if you have been a pain in
everybody's whatever. :)
I was worried about you not posting in the last
few days, thinking the
Bob Calco wrote:
You are 100% right, unfortunately: the sky is not falling---that would be
merciful compared to what's around the corner. :)
Hi Bob!
Look at it this way: I need a good second hand P IV box to run my dabo
project, $150 except I don't have $150.
Next month or so the same good
Bob Calco wrote:
So, FWIW -- yea, I know, not much :) -- all things considered, I still don't
think you were justified. Forgive, forget or ignore---all better options
than maligning him personally.
Well, first I read the subject: Where did dabo go? which implied (to me at
least,
at the time)
Bob Calco wrote:
So, FWIW -- yea, I know, not much :) -- all things considered, I
still don't
think you were justified. Forgive, forget or ignore---all better
options
than maligning him personally.
Well, first I read the subject: Where did dabo go? which implied (to
me at least,
at
Paul McNett wrote:
Bob Calco wrote:
So, FWIW -- yea, I know, not much :) -- all things considered, I still don't
think you were justified. Forgive, forget or ignore---all better options
than maligning him personally.
Well, first I read the subject: Where did dabo go? which implied (to me at
Bob Calco wrote:
Bob Calco wrote:
So, FWIW -- yea, I know, not much :) -- all things considered, I
still don't
think you were justified. Forgive, forget or ignore---all better
options
than maligning him personally.
Well, first I read the subject: Where did dabo go? which implied (to
me at
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Michael Madigan wrote:
You, simply put, are an asshole. LOL
Hi Michael
Jean Laeremans wrote:
Character assassination as a new programming technique
Bit harsh imo.
A+
jml
Well, there are characters that ask to be assassinated. Petey would
fill the bill.
Besides which he broke all netiquette by posting complaints to Dabo list
in a VFP list. And he
Bob Calco wrote:
Paul and Dave really ought to be ashamed. Pete -- whose only experience is
FoxPro -- was correct to choose this list to ask his Dabo questions under
the [NF] banner for two important reasons:
1. He was complying with the [NF] convention, which explicitly allows
discussions
Paul McNett wrote:
Pete Theisen wrote:
So, what is the environment on the screen that looks so much like VFP?
It is in the videos, on Mac and XP.
It is the class designer.
cd dabo/ide
python ClassDesigner.py
Paul
Hi Paul!
I do cd dabo/ide and I get an error message, BTW I
Paul McNett wrote:
Bob Calco wrote:
So, FWIW -- yea, I know, not much :) -- all things considered, I still don't
think you were justified. Forgive, forget or ignore---all better options
than maligning him personally.
Well, first I read the subject: Where did dabo go? which implied
Sent: 24 April 2009 15:41
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Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
Dave Crozier wrote:
You constantly mouth off about the evil Satan without any substantiated
cause and now that you have discovered open source suddenly this new
world
is full of crap. Maybe
Bob Calco wrote:
Bob Calco wrote:
So, FWIW -- yea, I know, not much :) -- all things considered, I
still don't
think you were justified. Forgive, forget or ignore---all better
options
than maligning him personally.
Well, first I read the subject:
Sheep!
Michael Madigan wrote:
JVP !
--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:
From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
To: profox@leafe.com
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 9:05 AM
Pete: When I started working
with Linux (Ubuntu) I didn't
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
Sheep!
Hi Michael!
Ewe think?
Michael Madigan wrote: JVP !
Pete: When I started working with Linux (Ubuntu) I didn't have a plan
on where to put the parts of Dabo. Windows pretty much directs where to
put stuff
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Regards,
Pete
Hi Everybody!
Has anyone ever installed dabo? Following the instructions exactly from
http://dabodev.com/wiki/InstallationOnLinux
(whole bunch of stuff, beyond the buffer)
Adabo/springboard/ui/springboard.cdxml
Adabo/springboard/ui/__init__.py
A
Pete Theisen wrote:
Can't ask the Dabo User's list, they consider *installing* dabo off
topic, they only use it, not install it.
Pete, I think you need to find a different career. Computers, programming, and
knowing how to ask the right questions are obviously beyond your abilities.
You are,
You, simply put, are an asshole. LOL
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From: Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Where did dabo go?
To: profox@leafe.com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:36 PM
Pete Theisen wrote:
Can't ask the Dabo User's list
Paul McNett wrote:
Pete, I think you need to find a different career. Computers, programming,
and
knowing how to ask the right questions are obviously beyond your abilities.
You are, simply put, a timesink.
Hi Paul!
Well, I agree with you. It's all true, I am obviously beyond my
Michael Madigan wrote:
You, simply put, are an asshole. LOL
Hi Michael!
Well, back to dabo: Have YOU installed it? I read the python book,
interesting, but not anything about dabo in it. I have another python
book on order.
I also viewed all the dabo videos, dabo really does look promising,
Pete Theisen wrote:
It seems to me that you would want to know if there are issues in your
project or its documentation. A guy like me, beyond my abilities and a
timesink such as I am, I can evidently find the issues if there are any.
We aren't selling any product, and we know the
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