Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Wednesday 06 December 2006 18:28, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 20:36, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: snip Unclear how killing locals made his fortune. He got to keep their money or someone paid him for the killings?

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-08 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 08 December 2006 11:50, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip So the patriarch killed the people and took their land? Didn't they all? Everywhere? Hi Ricardo! Aha! You don't know the US history the way you think you do! The US patriarchs just ran off the people whose land they

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-07 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 27 November 2006 21:23, Michael Madigan wrote: Nah, the punishment that awaits them after death is all they need. Hi Michael! Liberal. --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Another Atheist who's smarter than everyone else. I think there's a few

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-07 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 18:28, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 20:36, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: snip Unclear how killing locals made his fortune. He got to keep their money or someone paid him for the killings? Two

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-06 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 20:36, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: snip Unclear how killing locals made his fortune. He got to keep their money or someone paid him for the killings? Two generations ago my family used to own half a province. My grandfather

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 27 November 2006 10:30, Helio W. wrote: It's a well known fact that people who believe in silly things like the invisible man in the sky cannot think in logical and rational terms, so a productive debate is nearly impossible. This kind of people believe in what they want, they don't

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 27 November 2006 20:50, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Helio W. wrote: Knight in a shiny armor (US) coming to rescue Iraqs from oppression... This is utterly ridiculous. Hard to believe an adult believe in such silly terms. Probably Bob Calco believes Francisco Pizarro was just trying

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 27 November 2006 20:54, john harvey wrote: How about Iraq and Iran? Hi John! I was thinking Rwanda, kick some Hutu-Tutsi butt for cash. Yeah, adventurer, Rwanda. snip I was wondering if we could go 'civilize' some other continent or planet, I'm in need of cash. Any ideas? --

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Monday 27 November 2006 20:50, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Helio W. wrote: Knight in a shiny armor (US) coming to rescue Iraqs from oppression... This is utterly ridiculous. Hard to believe an adult believe in such silly terms. Probably Bob Calco believes Francisco Pizarro

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-12-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 05 December 2006 20:36, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: snip Unclear how killing locals made his fortune. He got to keep their money or someone paid him for the killings? Two generations ago my family used to own half a province. My grandfather represented that province

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-30 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 24 November 2006 18:54, Helio W. wrote: Hi Helio! There is thought to be quite a bit offshore of the US, and in the ANWR. These are sacred cow areas to environmentalists, for the time being. We will use the foreign oil first, when that is gone we will develop our own supply,

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Robert Calco
Again, Helio, I can't implore you enough to read what I was actually saying. But I am a patient person. Incidentally all I was saying was that liberty is cherished more deeply when you fight for it yourself vs. having it ushered in by some mythical Knight in Shining Armor. It was something of

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Robert Calco
On Monday, November 27, 2006, at 05:16PM, Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a well known fact that people who believe in silly things like the invisible man in the sky cannot think in logical and rational terms, so a productive debate is nearly impossible. This kind of people believe in

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Robert Calco wrote: Religion is really an excellent tool to control simple minded people. So are mob emotions like envy, greed, anger, and a large number of fatuous but popular academic theories that have nothing to do whatever with God. For instance, the labor theory of value combined

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Randy Haun
, November 28, 2006 7:50 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Again, Helio, I can't implore you enough to read what I was actually saying. But I am a patient person. Incidentally all I was saying was that liberty is cherished more deeply when you fight for it yourself

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Helio W.
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml On 11/28/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Religion is really an excellent tool to control simple minded people. So are mob emotions like envy, greed, anger, and a large number of fatuous but popular academic

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Helio W.
I'm a South Park Conservative. On 11/28/06, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Calco wrote: Religion is really an excellent tool to control simple minded people. So are mob emotions like envy, greed, anger, and a large number of fatuous but popular academic theories that

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Michael Madigan
: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:50 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Again, Helio, I can't implore you enough to read what I was actually saying. But I am a patient person. Incidentally all I was saying was that liberty is cherished more deeply when

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes, Berkeley is the center of the mental disease called Liberalism. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml On 11/28/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Religion is really an excellent tool to control simple

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 28, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Randy Haun wrote: Ok. Could you help me with a technical issue? I signed up for this forum yesterday. I get enough of this dialog from talk radio. Without choosing sides, How do I remove myself? One of two ways: first, you can unsubscribe from

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 28, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: One of two ways: first, you can unsubscribe from ProFox, and subscribe to ProFoxTech instead. That is the same mailing list as this, except that all messages labeled as [OT] (off-topic, that is) are filtered out. Whoops; hit 'send'

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-28 Thread Helio W.
Hello Randy, Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Randy, note that you can subscribe to the OT (out of topic) FREE version of this list. On 11/28/06, Randy Haun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Helio W.
://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 8:15 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? OMG, you really believe the US only invaded Iraq to liberate

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Calco
On Nov 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Helio W. wrote: OMG, you really believe the US only invaded Iraq to liberate their people from a dictatorship... That's pathetic. When you learn to read, you can try again. It's never too late to join civilized adults in a debate. - Bob P.S. Congratulations

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Calco
On Nov 26, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Helio W. wrote: I say whatever I want to say, Virgil. And your simple mindness is showing too. Said the pot to the kettle. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread vbiersch
I'm sitting here at the cafe having some iced tea waiting fir the locals to get here for the morning bs session and I have two thoughts on the matter 1 amen 2 keys on a palm treo are way too snall -Original Message- From: Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [OT] Do you think

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Calco
Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Date: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:09 am Size: 624 bytes To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com On Nov 26, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Helio W. wrote: I say whatever I want to say, Virgil. And your simple mindness is showing too. Said

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread vbiersch
you have my attebtuin I had it working via bluetooth but its flaky works one ttime and not the next -Original Message- From: Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Date: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:57 am Size: 2K To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com I

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Hal Kaplan
=  = Anybody that thinks this is only about oil, needs to quit = smoking whatever they're smoking. =  =  = Virgil Bierschwale Right, Virgil. It's about the desert sand. Now that Intel is making dual core chips, we need twice as much as we had before. HALinNY

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? OMG, you really believe the US only invaded Iraq to liberate their people from a dictatorship... That's pathetic. On 11/27/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill: On Nov 25, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Bill Arnold wrote

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 11/27/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd hate to be you with no moral compass. If only yours was showing true north A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Bill Arnold
Therein was, and is, the appeal of what we've done: To give others that right. Certainly, average Iraqis and Afghanis had no such power before either invasion; now, despite the upheaval, they do. Are you still running around with the 'Mission Accomplished' banner? Aren't you aware that

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Calco Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:57 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? I

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: You should know pathetic, you look at it in the mirror every day. 1. We went to topple Saddam Hussein's regime 2. We went to prevent spread of WMD 3. We went to create an island of democracy in the savage middle east. 4. We went to counter-balance Iran.

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Really? Last I heard Saddam wasn't in power, and his nuclear program had been destroyed. What have you heard, Sparky? --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: You should know pathetic, you look at it in the mirror every day. 1. We went to topple Saddam

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Come on, you've got oatmeal in your head. --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: I'd hate to be you with no moral compass. I'd rather use my own brains than put blind trust in a device, moral or not. ___

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: Really? Last I heard Saddam wasn't in power, and his nuclear program had been destroyed. What have you heard, Sparky? Well you see dad. You accomplished number one though it was just an excuse. Number two was a Disney production. And in the last two you failed

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: Come on, you've got oatmeal in your head. hahahaha! --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: I'd hate to be you with no moral compass. I'd rather use my own brains than put blind trust in a device, moral or not.

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Stephen the Cook
Hal Kaplan wrote: = = Anybody that thinks this is only about oil, needs to quit = smoking whatever they're smoking. = = = Virgil Bierschwale Right, Virgil. It's about the desert sand. Now that Intel is making dual core chips, we need twice as much as we had before. LOL! Stephen

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Stephen the Cook
Jean Laeremans wrote: On 11/27/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd hate to be you with no moral compass. If only yours was showing true north I thought that his was more of a sun dial. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Helio W.
It's a well known fact that people who believe in silly things like the invisible man in the sky cannot think in logical and rational terms, so a productive debate is nearly impossible. This kind of people believe in what they want, they don't seek the truth, only the convenient one. So we see

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Helio W.
LOL. I don't believe in stupid things like americans are god's chosen people. On 11/27/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 26, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Helio W. wrote: I say whatever I want to say, Virgil. And your simple mindness is showing too. Said the pot to the kettle. -

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Helio W.
Madagain's moral compass is the same as Ted Haggert's. LOL On 11/27/06, Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd hate to be you with no moral compass. If only yours was showing true north A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Helio W.
Knight in a shiny armor (US) coming to rescue Iraqs from oppression... This is utterly ridiculous. Hard to believe an adult believe in such silly terms. Probably Bob Calco believes Francisco Pizarro was just trying to bring civilization and christianity to savages... LOL On 11/27/06, Bill

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
We are, silly. Why do you think God told us to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Why do you think God has us as Israel's only friend? Why do you think Jesus was born in Israel? Jesus wasn't born in Tokyo or Rio. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. I don't believe in stupid things like

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Another Atheist who's smarter than everyone else. I think there's a few other people on this list that fit that bill. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a well known fact that people who believe in silly things like the invisible man in the sky cannot think in logical and

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
At least I'm not cleaning a guy's house like you, Toshi. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Madagain's moral compass is the same as Ted Haggert's. LOL On 11/27/06, Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd hate to be you

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan wrote: We are, silly. Why do you think God told us to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Why do you think God has us as Israel's only friend? Why do you think Jesus was born in Israel? Jesus wasn't born in Tokyo or Rio. Because we were running out of Napalm. We were doing

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes, no virgins in Brazil. LOL --- Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: We are, silly. Why do you think God told us to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Why do you think God has us as Israel's only friend? Why do you think Jesus was born in Israel? Jesus

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Helio W. wrote: Knight in a shiny armor (US) coming to rescue Iraqs from oppression... This is utterly ridiculous. Hard to believe an adult believe in such silly terms. Probably Bob Calco believes Francisco Pizarro was just trying to bring civilization and christianity to savages... LOL

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread john harvey
How about Iraq and Iran? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:50 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Helio W. wrote: Knight in a shiny armor (US

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: Another Atheist who's smarter than everyone else. I think there's a few other people on this list that fit that bill. Yeah! Let's single them out and expel them. Or even better, let's initiate a congressional investigation and those we find out to be commies or

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Helio W. wrote: Knight in a shiny armor (US) coming to rescue Iraqs from oppression... This is utterly ridiculous. Hard to believe an adult believe in such silly terms. Probably Bob Calco believes Francisco Pizarro was just trying to bring civilization

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Nah, the punishment that awaits them after death is all they need. --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Another Atheist who's smarter than everyone else. I think there's a few other people on this list that fit that bill. Yeah! Let's single them

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Helio W.
Get a clue... http://tinyurl.com/spye4* ** *On 11/25/06, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a grip. We'll do the same thing we've done every other time we've ran up against a wall. We'll invent the next fuel source, after all that's where the term american ingenuity comes

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Helio W.
Speaking of energy, a movie about some good guys and what they did: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000C3L2IO/ref=pd_rvi_gw_1/002-4341799-2098459 On 11/25/06, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the image you supplied, africa and the north sea would fall under the other

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
] Do you think McCain is right? Get a clue... http://tinyurl.com/spye4* ** *On 11/25/06, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a grip. We'll do the same thing we've done every other time we've ran up against a wall. We'll invent the next fuel source, after all that's where

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Speaking of energy, a movie about some good guys and what they did: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000C3L2IO/ref=pd_rvi_gw_1/002-4341799-2098459 On 11/25/06, Virgil

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Michael Madigan
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:40 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Get a clue... http://tinyurl.com/spye4* ** *On 11/25/06, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Michael Madigan
://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Speaking of energy, a movie

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Robert Calco
Bill: On Nov 25, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: Leadership by example is the solution you're looking for. When everything is said and done, it is as self-evident and simple as that. Truisms are always 'as simple as that'. But we do make decisions every step of the way, and what we

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Helio W.
Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:40 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Get a clue

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Helio W.
wrong with that ? Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Helio W.
Lee clearly saw the North's victory as the beginning of the growth of empire at home, the loss of freedom to Americans and the destruction of the original ideas of our Founders. He also saw that the domestic empire would lead to an empire abroad. Consolidation of power into the central government

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Helio W.
McKinley ordered the American warships sent to the Philippines at approximately the same time he sent the battleship *Maine* to Cuba and instructed the American Navy to support the Philippine rebels against their Spanish rulers. McKinley asked Congress to declare war because of the sinking of the

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Helio W.
OMG, you really believe the US only invaded Iraq to liberate their people from a dictatorship... That's pathetic. On 11/27/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill: On Nov 25, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: Leadership by example is the solution you're looking for. When

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Michael Madigan
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:40 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Get a clue... http://tinyurl.com/spye4* ** *On 11/25/06, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a grip

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Michael Madigan
Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Michael Madigan
You should know pathetic, you look at it in the mirror every day. 1. We went to topple Saddam Hussein's regime 2. We went to prevent spread of WMD 3. We went to create an island of democracy in the savage middle east. 4. We went to counter-balance Iran. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? You're funny too. You're a naive person who think companies like Enron and people like Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling are exceptions. You probably think that Lay's link with the Bush family was just a social affair. LOL. You're

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? You're missed the point that they were not exceptions. They were not just bad apples. My gad, you're a naive person! On 11/26/06, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, you missed the point entirely. They broke

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
:27 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Just adding: the Enron guys got caught because they were so arrogant and totally blinded by greed that they insanely built an empire on top of lies and deficitary operations. How could they succeed for such a long time

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? OMG, you really believe the US only invaded Iraq to liberate their people from a dictatorship... That's pathetic. On 11/27/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill: On Nov 25, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: Leadership by example

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? McKinley ordered the American warships sent to the Philippines at approximately the same time he sent the battleship *Maine* to Cuba and instructed the American Navy to support the Philippine rebels against their Spanish rulers. McKinley asked Congress

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-25 Thread Helio W.
. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 10:07 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-25 Thread Bill Arnold
clipped Can you at least agree that the lack of liberty and freedom in the ME is a real and significant part of the root cause of all the hatred and evil emanating from that region of the world? How do you propose to solve that problem? And don't even mention the UN, a hotbed for

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-24 Thread Robert Calco
On Nov 23, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Bill Arnold wrote: To Bob and anyone who might read this: this situation has drained too much of my time already, but my sense of patriotism and humanity will not let me sit back and watch it all play out without saying anything. No one, least of all me, is

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-24 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 11/24/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering how much interest the US would have in the ME if we could take out oil out of the equation..after all who cares about Africa nowadays, apart from the Chinese that is. As far as mercenaries are concerned there are about 30,000

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-24 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? On 11/24/06, Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering how much interest the US would have in the ME if we could take out oil out of the equation..after all who cares about Africa nowadays, apart from the Chinese that is. As far as mercenaries

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-24 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 23 November 2006 18:02, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hi Ricardo! Now don't you go slyly changing the subject, someone might think you are queer or something. It doesn't matter anything about USArians and Buenos Aires here, the subject is Muslim terrorists. Is

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-23 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 18:27, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hi Ricardo! No. Go find yourself a Muslim terrorist and ask him where Trinadad Tobago or Jamaica is. For that matter, ask him *what* Trinadad Tobago or Jamaica is. Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 21 November 2006 07:27, Helio W.

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-23 Thread Bill Arnold
To Bob and anyone who might read this: this situation has drained too much of my time already, but my sense of patriotism and humanity will not let me sit back and watch it all play out without saying anything. I've lashed out at - and now ignore completely - those whose mission is to muckrake

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-23 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 23 November 2006 07:13, Bill Arnold wrote: snip so maybe we'll see something like a $ 100,000 enlistment bonus. They could even puff it up to like a big gift to people who are so patriotic as to sign up. Hi Bill! For the most part, you are a drug crazed kook, but this is genius.

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Of course not, you're time is so valuable. --- Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Bob and anyone who might read this: this situation has drained too much of my time already, but my sense of patriotism and humanity will not let me sit back and watch it all play out without saying

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-23 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: On Wednesday 22 November 2006 18:27, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hi Ricardo! No. Go find yourself a Muslim terrorist and ask him where Trinadad Tobago or Jamaica is. For that matter, ask him *what* Trinadad Tobago or Jamaica is. Well, you're in no position to say that.

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-23 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 23 November 2006 18:02, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hi Ricardo! Now don't you go slyly changing the subject, someone might think you are queer or something. It doesn't matter anything about USArians and Buenos Aires here, the subject is Muslim terrorists. There have been only a few USA

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-22 Thread Robert Calco
On Wednesday, November 22, 2006, at 05:24AM, Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.) To your credit I believe you are 100% earnest and open about who you are and what you believe. I just regret your constant harping about certain things and wish I had more patience for your perpetual

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-22 Thread Robert Calco
I didn't finish my final thought before accidentally hitting the send instead of save button: I believe at a motivation level we did what in our heart we know is right -- overturning dictators, bringing democracy and freedom to oppressed people (you really do ignore the positive aspects of the

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:34 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could it possibly be you that does not see the truth because of your convictions they have access to info that you do

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Virgil Bierschwale wrote: I have said many times that we need to: 1. Fire all our politicians and bring in fresh people that have never served a day in office so that we will have fresh ideas. 2. disband the nsa and cia 3. stay out of other

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Ricardo, you seem like a nice intelligent individual. But, how do you figure the rest of the world is not endangered ? Everything I see shows me that these muslim extremists will not rest until people like you and me either succumb or are dead. I don't watch much

RE: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right? Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Ricardo, you seem like a nice intelligent individual. But, how do you figure the rest of the world is not endangered ? Everything I see shows me

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 17:13, Leland Jackson wrote: Well, after educating myself again on Machiavelli* *thoughts about using mercenaries and auxiliary force, here are some of my concerns. The government the US put in power in Iraq is totally dependent on a US presence to remain in power.

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 07:27, Bill Arnold wrote: Bill, Have you ever gave it a moments thought that perhaps it is you who is wrong ? Yes. Without such contemplation I wouldn't - couldn't - speak with such conviction. Hi Bill! Oh, yeah. You thought you were wrong once, but later

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 07:27, Helio W. wrote: Hi Helio! The terrorists themselves keep it pretty simple. Death to America, Death to Israel, Allah is great. No reason to read anything more into it. Virgil, The US has the largest and more powerful military in the world. US have the

Re: [OT] Do you think McCain is right?

2006-11-21 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 09:49, Hal Kaplan wrote: =  =  Does anyone else think they are above being drafted? =  = Hi Hal! =  = Yep, all us old guys and yo momma too. If the towel heads = kill us it will only make a couple of years difference anyway. Not us, Pete. We've got a draft