timeline for next public stable release?
Whenever Ben gets the documentation done. http://docs.pylonshq.com/
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The outline of the ball in the holder is good, but the color version
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absolutely don't like the lavendar ball color. How about adding some
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newbies should
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I've suggested Python should either downgrade the simplejson
dependency or eliminate it. It's not needed for anything in core
Pylons, only for the @jsonify decorator. So why not move @jsonify to
the Cookbook and eliminate the dependency, at l
. It would be
better to see why it doesn't work and fix it, or try another library
like YUI, ExtJS, ForkJavascript, etc. Also, does what you're doing
need a library? Sometimes people think they need a library when it's
just as easy t
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Well, again, why doesn't JQuery work on Konqueror? Is Konqueror
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I have updated the wiki to make this clearer, and also added download
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Ben maintains docs.pylonshq.com. Right now he's hard at work
polishing them up for the release, so there's a thousand different
things to do. (Maybe only 500 after the big revision a few days ago.)
You can post suggestions here or in the bug tracker, and he'll get to
me/mso/venv/cameo/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Paste-1.7.1-py2.5.egg
Searching for Beaker==1.0.3
Best match: Beaker 1.0.3
Adding Beaker 1.0.3 to easy-install.pth file
Using /home/mso/venv/cameo/lib/python2.5/site-packages
Searching for Pygments==0.11.1
Best match: Pygments 0.11.1
Adding Pygments 0.11.
the static file. The seventh line serves the file.
With DirectoryApp, you can instantiate it with the root directory, but
then I'm not sure how to pass the relative path when you call it. It
reads the relative path from PATH_INFO, but I'm not sure how you get
just {*url} without the part
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>>> Hel
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from pylons.i18n import _ as pylons_gettext
File
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import the specific packages manually
it won't do all that dependency checking that breaks in py2exe/py2app.
But there seem to be other places where pkg_resources is used too,
and I don't know where they all are.
Chris, you'll want to subscribe to the pylons-devel group at group
acy.render_response_warning, render_response.__doc__)
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The module is using pylons.legacy without importing it, so that
clearly needs to be fixed.
After all this we were able to get the wxPython version of the
application to run, but we rebuilt the py2exe version and it still has
the same problem.
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>> The module is using pylons.legacy without importing it, so that
>> clearly needs to be fixed.
>>
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> Ok, I committed
ue to come up
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The plan is to integrate this into the Routes documentation. However,
I had trouble merging Ben's and Chairos's Sphinxifixation so I wrote
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/. Once the controller list is created, the Mapper method create_regs
should be called:
m.create_regs(['content','admin/comments','blog'])
After this step, the Mapper object is now ready to match URL's.
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Why is it so
it only
covered simple usage, not building custom widgets. That's the main
reason it's not used much in Pylons applications. it sounded like TW
was making some good advances, dropping C dependencies and that rule
library, and adding Mako templates so that Genshi wasn't required.
Tha
on
structure to be shared by multiple frameworks, and by multiple
applications in one process. Of course Paste already does this to
some extent, but we're looking at how to make it more universal and
multi-app friendly. It's still at the theoretical stage; there are no
se matters and I'm not sure
> if more discussion took place outside of this thread, prior to a
> sprint, etc.
Haha, the only guideline Ben has given me is, "Use ReST."
He is using some convention for docstring arguments and return va
ould check for
> request.method?) -> http://pastebin.com/f1411a3bd
>
> Is this correct and do you think it's reasonable to merge this patch into
> trunk?
I'm the WebHelpers maintainer so I'd be the one to implement it, b
oo much out-of-date
> tw doc on the net.
OK, I deleted those and the other three ToscaWidgets articles I found,
and put a link on the general Forms page.
http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Forms
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print css_classes([
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I put the value first in the tuple to make the line more readable,
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> return : foobar
>
> I would like foobar.
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> Do you add "css_classes" feature in webhelpers repository ?
It works with a None argument. The function could be taught to do that.
>&
te (which
depends on PasteDeploy), render_mako, @jsonify, etc. I would put them
all in PylonsCore, even though they depend on undeclared packages.
That would be easier than splitting modules between the packages or
worse, splitting parts of modules between pac
toph Haas is Paginate's maintainer. You can send him a patch at
em...@christoph-haas.de . I don't know whether he has a particular
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Christoph, I'm planning a WebHelpers release in a few days, so please
get back to me on whether you want to accept this idea.
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> wrote:
>>
>> i,
>>
>> In webhe
knowledgetap.com/hg/webhelpers/) is
> defunct.
Pylons, Routes, and WebHelpers have all moved to BitBucket.
http://bitbucket.org/bbangert/webhelpers
Christoph Haas manages Paginate and is incorporating a couple other
patches now, so I'll lea
${h.link_to_unless(
is_last_page,
literal("Last >>"),
h.url_for(route_name, page=page.last_page, **params))}
% for name, value in params.iteritems():
${h.hidden(name, value)}
% endfor para
> (1) was the reason for which the paginator failed in the first place
> in a regular pylons application with explicit=True because the call to
> url_for in the paginator relied on this feature.
> (2) was the reason for which your code sample failed as the controller/
> action were mis
l() uses route memory in one situation but not
>> in another, but i can't remember what those are.
>
> maybe you refer to the fact that route memory works for url_for but
> not for redirect_to?
No, it's both in url(). Maybe it's just that url.current() uses route
really makes people trust
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point!
It has stopped now. :) I was just concerned about it escalating
because some people who post like that, do so habitually. I'm sorry
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locks out non-JS users (including screen readers for the
blind), but that if we include some Javascript the question arises,
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Paul Johnston wrote:
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> BTW, the Full Moon Party on Koh Phangan is the most amazing party I
> have ever been to in my life.
The what? Is this some place in Korea or Vietnam?
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Christoph, can you make sure this contains your latest changes?
The rails helpers are now gone in the development version, so don't
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an expected.
I've got several various patches implemented in WebHelpers tip. I'll
probably release the beta in a few days, although I would like to give
it a proper manual before final. But I'm still learning how to set
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appropriate. Instead, Routes should either raise an error or consider
the route a non-match to the arguments; I'm not sure which is better.
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>
> def sanitize_html(content_str):
> markup = HTML(content_str) | HTMLSanitizer(safe_tags,
> safe_attrs, safe_schemes)
> return markup.render('html')
>
> def serialize_to_plaintext(content_str):
> markup = HTML(content
>
>
> source: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/121523/
Hmm, Unidecode is 1.4 MB, which is bigger than WebHelpers. What are
you using the slugs for? What general purpose would they have in
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ut again the issues of how to
integrate this with the Python docs and what to do about the lame home
page (http://bitbucket.org/bbangert/webhelpers/wiki/Home) come up.
I can update the roadmap this weekend now that we've confirmed there
are no other major changes planned, but
who's writing them.
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Iain Duncan wrote:
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> On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 06:25 -0700, Mike Orr wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps we could have an IRC documentation party this Saturday and go
>> over how the documentation is structured and make some decisions on
>> how th
does. And it also
doesn't make sense that the programmer would go to that obscurity to
create a constant when the simpler ``u"FUCKED"`` would have been
equivalent. So the code, if it did exist, must have been unfinished
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webhelpers.text.urlify(). There's also a companion
remove_formatting() to strip HTML tags, and some character/entity
converters. All by Ben and based on Ruby's stringex package.
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ery single item. I can't do that for the
tons of items in WebHelpers and keep it up to date. Would it be
better to use Epydoc which can generate a whole package at once? Is
there a way to plug Epydoc documentation into Sphinx?
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On the other
hand, things like "myname.2009-10-22.utf8.txt" are not.
I looked in WebHelpers and did not find anything, so I think a
filename-sanitizing helper is needed.
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application, but that means you have to use something other
than Python for your auth. Perhaps an Apache module.
By the way, the pylons-discuss list is the best place to ask usage
questions. The pylons-devel list is for discussing changes to Pylons;
details the entire userbase doesn't w
to be:
1. An alternative to @validate. There are some patches in the ticket.
Going to a one-method approach (form display and processing in the
same controller action) would also simplify things.
2. Document the undocumented parts of FormEncode.
3. Add an alternate resource route to Routes, that
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Ben Bangert wrote:
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> It's not just the lack of documentation. It does things downright weird.
> It's also pretty much unmaintained. Sure, patches will be applied usually,
> but other t
e last section applies to
us -- the rest is ORM wrappers and framework integration)
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/syndication/
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urs with network or database access. The network part is
handled by the WSGI server. Pylons does not include a database (just
a suggested configuration for SQLAlchemy), so you're on your own
there. I'm not sure if disk access is considered blocking, but if so,
the session configuration and
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Joan Miller wrote:
>> Pylons is a great project, thanks! But I'm supposed that it would be
>> faster if it were ready for concurrency.
>>
>> Today is not necessary to use Twisted;
can't find a simple function to generate a URL with query
string (not using Routes). Is there an equivalent to this somewhere
I've overlooked?
def url(urlpath, **params):
if not params:
return urlpath
return urlpath + "?" + urllib.urlencode(params)
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Thanks for your feedback, James.
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>> A couple proposed helpers, one for doctypes and one to generate a
>> complete HTML document. What do you guys think of the API a
> pretty idle (see Comet for ex), the memory that threads consume is a
>> > big issue.
>>
>> > An event based framework solves this by saving as litle state as
>> > needed (or possible) so that it could handle a large number of
>> > otherwise slow or id
ste-1.7.2-py2.6.egg/paste/registry.py",
> line 155, in __call__
> return self._current_obj()(*args, **kw)
> File
> "/Users/gawel/py/PylonsKGS/build_1.0b1/eggs/Routes-1.12-py2.6.egg/routes/util.py",
> line 412, in __call__
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> Generation
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tes. In those
cases you have to use ._current_obj().
Otherwise, what actual problems are you having with the SOPs? They
work most of the time; that's why there hasn't been a major push to
get rid of them.
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ranging from getting the config early enough, to post-testing the
session. Ben and Philip and Ian have done a good job of building as
much of that as possible into the TestController and WebError. I
still don't understand it very well, and the docs help only so far.
You'll prob
execution.rst
It's reviewed up to "Anatomy of a Request" (line 419).
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choose would have to work with it. Some
people have written standalone pieces of @validate which could be used
inside actions or combined in a decorator, so we'd have to evaluate
those.
If you have any specific ideas, you can add them to the "Split up
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service has been requested by users, although we're not
sure exactly what kind of client program would issue the queries. The
other two services are speculation, based on the idea that "if you
build it, they will come" (i.e., realize they want it).
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Created a ticket for it.
http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/ticket/697
This doesn't guarantee it will be accepted, but helps us in processing
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t link to it because butbucket is down.) It has a
"do no evil" license which Fedora can't distribute. If I can't get it
relicensed I'll have to delete it. The C code is also convoluted and
undocumented, which I've just left as is. I haven't decided whether to
keep just
ompress this but not that?" On
another note, a user has submitted a patch to minify application code
and external Javascript libraries (e.g., jQuery) together. Do you
think this patch looks like a good idea, and would you like to
incorporate it upstream?
http://groups.google.com/group/pylo
to be the purpose of an MIT-style license).
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Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: _jsmin.py license
To: Mike Orr
I don't care what you do so long as you respect my license.
On 8/9/2010 2:39 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
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orld spin, literally.
>
> Domen
>
> On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 15:25 -0700, Mike Orr wrote:
>> Crockford has spoken, so _jsmin.py will have to go. The Fedora people
>> also contacted him earlier and got a similar response. I don't know
>> why he's so obstinate: is
e stuff which
> depends on Java, then the dependency doesn't matter. And if someone
> wants a patch, I will post it :)
>
> [0] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/compressor/
> [1] http://code.google.com/closure/compiler/
>
> Néstor.
>
> On Aug 10, 3:42 am, Mike Orr wro
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> Closure Compiler and with YUI Compressor. Perhaps you can write a
> paragraph mentioning the software available to perform the
> minification.
>
> http://docs.fubar.si/minwebhelpers/
>
> Néstor.
>
> On Aug 10, 6:59 pm, Mike Orr wrote:
>> So is it worth k
(Originally from Mike Orr)
I've got a first draft of the Pylons 2 Users Guide done. The "hello
world" page is the only page that's completed; it goes through
installing a default application and looking through the application
code. I haven't gone through the Pylons code
a logging configuration may not belong in the minimal
application, but in that case I'd have to provide the code to paste
in. (Maybe using paste.translogger as a sample middleware that uses
logging.)
On the other hand, it can be argued that logging is so central to
everything, it belongs in th
"Hello" (capitalized) is working now, and the interactive traceback. I
adjusted the guide for those and for the new location of the static
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> Should be fine to add that configuration there.
I guess that means myapp/__init__.py will have to initialize the
logging. Because who else will?
This might be good to make the logging activation explicit. One
problem with "paster serve" is nobody can figure out where logging i
endencies will really have to be dealt
with at another level. BFG pulls in a lot of things that aren't
relevant to a typical Pylons application, like Chameleon. App Engine
users will certainly be interested in what they can exclude from
uploading. I think we can worry about that later, to provide a
's GPL, we're releasing the
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duh, I didn't realize it would keep doing that, but of course it would.
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e narrative sections? Because sometimes I need to look up
an undocumented method, e.g., to access column metadata in a program.
> No, I meant in the places where Pylons is importing WebHelpers and
> FormEncode, it wraps the imports in try/excepts so that the legacy decorators
> will onl
t takes the page
variable from the current URL. It's pretty complex, but that's why
Routes has been simplified in Pylons 1 and the "current URL" feature
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>> Can it be made into a request method so you don't have to pass the
>> request object? That would be more OO.
>
> Yea, maybe request.link? request.url would conflict
lons tradition under the
bus, especially because it would force people to rewrite their
templates for no obvious benefit. It could copy the variables to both
places by default, but have a flag to put them either at the top level
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>> > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 18:36 -0700, Ben Bangert wrote:
>> >> Yea, we're going to have
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>> BFG is bigger than all the other Pylons dependencies combined. We
>> can't have 30% of the Pylons manual referring to BFG features that
>> aren't normally
etime next winter or spring?
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So you have to return the response object.
response = self.request.response
response.convent_type = "application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml"
response.body = db.load_form("login.kk")
ing for in the first phases.
This could be a first big project for Pyramid if it's feasable.
Anybody want to help design the specs and identify the resources?
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e. And of course,
we'd have to define a YAML format and test it. Also, in the current
system, the same INI file can contain both Paste settings and Python
logging settings (and repoze.who settings, etc). Python logging can't
parse a YAML file directly.
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his is frequently-used enough to go into Pyramid directly.
* Grid: A generic version is in webhelpers.html.grid.
* Minify: I've never used this. Can it go into Pyramid.
* Secure_form: I've never used this. Can it go into Pyramid? Pylons
imports it into pylons.decorators.secure .
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me. Paste does what it needs to do.
Also, "Marco" to many of us means Pyramid. so if this
launcher-with-a-YAML format is to be called Marco, that'll need to be
distinguished. But I think the reason we left the name Marco (Polo)
was that an existing project was already using
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