Hi Roger,
Ah, sorry. I think I got mistaken in my previous mail. The point is
that you are debugging *only* a C extension, and not interested in
debugging any of the rest of PyPy. Then all we said about GCs makes
no sense: the PyObject* within PyPy are not handled by PyPy's GC.
They are
Hi Jay,
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Jay Parlar par...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been trying on-and-off to build PyPy for a few days now, and keep
running into various issues. I was hoping someone on the list could
give me some pointers as to what I'm doing wrong.
As usual it looks like some
Re-hi,
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Armin Rigo ar...@tunes.org wrote:
Sorry for the delay. We don't usually test much on FreeBSD, but I've
found the source of the bug: it's not adding the -L/usr/local option
in the final Makefile. Should be fixed by revision e69c2c3e4988.
Bah, I wrote
Hi Alex,
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Alex Şuhan alex.su...@gmail.com wrote:
PyPy works great for our PHP JIT interpreter
Great to hear :-)
Other than the obvious duct taping, are there any caveats to this solution?
Not that I can think of. It sounds like a good solution, or let's say
a
Hi Da_Blitz,
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Da_Blitz p...@pocketnix.org wrote:
according to the man page on linux (debian) there are 2 calling
conventions, the System V and the BSD the os.setpgrp and os.getpgrp do
not appear to take arguments
Yes, it's done for the BSD. According to my
Hi Amaury,
Sorry, track_and_esp.s is most probably broken on Windows due to
017e187b2716. This revision contains, among several things, a small
simplification of the code because it was (probably) not possible any
more to see and esp, xxx from gcc. So, of course, we need to
partially and
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Please file a ticket on https://bugs.pypy.org
It looks that a CPython test is not precise enough...
Fixed by benjamin (and reviewed by me).
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On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Armin Rigo ar...@tunes.org wrote:
more to see and esp, xxx from gcc. So, of course, we need to
partially and carefully revert this simplification...
Done, I think. Please tell me if the Windows build still cannot use asmgcc.
A bientôt,
Armin
Hi Gregn,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:29 PM, emailgr...@googlemail.com wrote:
Pretty please, can ootypes get some love in the upcoming sprint?
It depends on who is there. If you are there and willing to work on
it, then sure, we are willing to help you :-)
A bientôt,
Armin.
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
But it won't become an assembler instruction in the JIT, it'll still be a
call.
Indeed. But fixing this is not too hard. Grep for math_sqrt and
MATH_SQRT in pypy/jit/*/*.py for an example of how we turn
Hi Alex,
Before attacking the problem with the JIT, we should understand better
why PyPy is 4-8 times slower than CPython. Normally you'd expect the
factor to be at most 2. I suppose the answer is that our
itertools.repeat() is bad for some reason.
A bientôt,
Armin.
Hi William,
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, William ML Leslie
william.leslie@gmail.com wrote:
On another note: what Alex talks about as being two different cases
are just one with the small int optimisation - all references can be
compared by value in the C backend with small ints
Hi all,
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Cesare Di Mauro
cesare.di.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
So, there must be care about using is. It's safe for some trivial objects
(None, False, True, Ellipsis) and, I think, with user-defined classes'
instances, but not for everything.
The problem is more
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
The Translation and JIT backend for PyPy may be able to allow Python
programmers to use SIMD instructions directly from Python.
We kind of want to do that automatically for numpy operations.
Can all basic SIMD
Hi,
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:20 AM, William ML Leslie
william.leslie@gmail.com wrote:
My point about small integers (...)
I think that your point about small integers is broken (even assuming
that smallints are enabled by default, which is not the case). It
means that we'd get an id()
Hi Bengt,
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Bengt Richter b...@oz.net wrote:
id([1]) == id([2])
True
As pointed out by Carl Friedrich, the real definition of id is:
* if x and y are two variables, then x is y = id(x) == id(y).
That's why in any Python implementation,
x=[1]; y=[2]; id(x)
Hi Andrew,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello I am running into some snags developing an executable in pypy with
translate.py and wondering what the best method for me to do this with my
code would be.
In addition to the previous answer,
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
http://speed.pypy.org/timeline/?exe=1base=noneben=spitfireenv=tannitrevs=50
This was introduced by the changes we did to the GC to better support
resizing big lists: 1bb155fd266f and 324a8265e420. I will look.
A
Hi Alex,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Alex Gaynor alex.gay...@gmail.com wrote:
I just investigated the spitfire regression, it appears to have been caused
by 27df060341f0 (merg non-null-app-dict branch)
That's not the conclusion I arrived at. The speed.pypy.org website
says that revision
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Antonio Cuni anto.c...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that armin investigated this, and the outcome was that it's because of
the changes we did in the GC during the sprint. Armin, do you confirm?
Do we have a solution?
I confirm, and still have no solution. I
Hi Christian,
A quick poll about the 'win64 test' branch. Is it going fine? If
ll2ctypes is continuing to give you troubles, I'd suggest to move on;
keep in mind that ll2ctypes is only used for testing. I would
recommend that your priority should be to pass the tests in
pypy/rpython/test/ and
Hi Anto,
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Cuni anto.c...@gmail.com wrote:
What can we conclude? That compiling the loops is uneffective and we only
care about compiling single functions? :-(
Or, conversely, that compiling single functions is ineffective and we
only care about
Hi Anto,
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Antonio Cuni anto.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, we have a speedup of ~2-2.5x which is more or less what you would expect
by just removing the interpretation overhead. It probably indicates that we
have lrge room for improvements, but I suppose that
Hi Berend,
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Berend De Schouwer
berend.deschou...@ucs-software.co.za wrote:
The following program has constant (+- 10 MB) memory usage in CPython,
but it quickly leaks massive amounts of memory in pypy.
In theory it's not a leak, because the memory is eventually
Hi,
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Roger Flores aide...@yahoo.com wrote:
value = binascii.crc32(new_value, value) 0x
value = binascii.crc32(new_value, value) 0x
Thanks for the report. This code doesn't run on top of CPython 2.5,
too, but works indeed on top of CPython 2.7.
Hi Maciek,
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
What's although worth considering is how to get stuff optimized even
if we don't have loops (but I guess carl has already started)
I'm unsure what you mean here. The function_threshold stuff you did
is
Hi Anto,
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Antonio Cuni anto.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that pyrepl exists as an independent repo and that the one in PyPy is
supposed to be a copy of it (similar to what we do in py.test):
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pyrepl
Thanks for the reminder! I copied the
Hi Maciej,
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
Uh, can we revert this? I think a runtime warning when restype is not
set is an excellent idea from the correctness perspective.
I'm not sure I agree with this argument. The point I made on irc was
that for
Hi Berend,
I think I fixed the original problem too. See the longish checkin message of
e7121092d73f.
A bientôt,
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Hi Laurie,
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Laurence Tratt lau...@tratt.net wrote:
I'm looking to port PyPy to OpenBSD (specifically amd64/x86_64, as I no
longer have any i386 machines; that might be the cause of some of my woes).
I have fixed the problems you reported (see 109f80dac1c1). I
Hi David,
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:14 PM, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
So, it appears pypy is failing to speed up this contrived example...
I think that it is expected, because the hash is computed entirely as
pure Python code in the case of PyPy (doing integer arithmetic with
Hi Timo,
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Timo Paulssen
timona...@perpetuum-immobile.de wrote:
So what would you suggest for making this much faster? I read on the IRC, that
in pypy itself, string concatenation is actually used to create python
functions, so maybe that would be way to go in
Hi Alex,
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Alex Gaynor alex.gay...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to express that, unless we have a very compelling reason, we should
try to keep more stuff in pure python, as opposed to RPython. Mostly
because it speeds up translation ;) (also easier to test, easier
Hi Yury,
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, if everybody agrees on the 3rd option, then can we have at least the
process of porting outlined and reviewed by core devs? No need for a
super-detailed PEP, though. A simple guideline would help
Hi David,
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:50 PM, David Edelsohn dje@gmail.com wrote:
r8 and r9 are not initialized and point to whatever locations those
registers happen to hold.
I think that the test is just wrong... You need to load explicitly
the address of some CArray in r8 and r9, for
Hi Jacob,
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Jacob Biesinger
jake.biesin...@gmail.com wrote:
A bit OT: The recent release of ipython added some powerful multiprocessing
features using ZeroMQ. I've only glanced at pypy's extensive threading
optimizations (e.g., greenlets). Does pypy jit across
Hi David,
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:56 PM, David Fraser dav...@sjsoft.com wrote:
The pypy JIT takes a while to work out which parts of python code need
optimization etc, and only after that phase do the speedups become relevant.
Have there been any efforts (indeed, is it a feasible idea at
Hi Zooko,
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Zooko O'Whielacronx zo...@zooko.com wrote:
conservative method of determining if two classes are the same. For
example: if they have identical Python source code and their
superclasses are the same (in this sense).
This cannot be something you can
Hi Andy,
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Andy angelf...@yahoo.com wrote:
I remember reading in this list that PyPy-JIT would not work with greenlet
because of how greentlet manipulated the C stack and there wasn't any easy
solution.
No, I think you are confusing two topics. The existing
Hi Mitchell,
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Mitchell Hashimoto
mitchell.hashim...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the things I wanted to look at was the graph files generated by
the shell. I installed PyGame and GraphViz and when I run a t.view on a
Translation object, I get the following crazy
Hi Mitchell,
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
But it would still be great to see the whole thing work without having to
translate all of PyPy. Is this possible?
Sure, you must write unit tests anyway.
To complete this answer, what you should
Hi David,
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:57 PM, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
PYPY_GC_MAX_DELTA=200MB pypy --jit loop_longevity=300 ./translate.py -Ojit
FYI, the above options increases the build time by ~30% (on my system at-
least).
Thank you. That's what I feared. We need to
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote:
If you read that Armin's email carefully, you notice that he talks about a
low-level primitive called stacklets, which have some limitations, but are
not intended for a regular use. Greenlets will be
Hi Vishal,
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Vishal vsapr...@gmail.com wrote:
a) Does it make sense to have a MIPS port of the PyPy JIT.
Yes, it definitely makes sense. I assume that the MIPS machines you
consider as final targets have *some* amount of RAM, like, say,
minimum 32MB or 64MB.
Hi Andy,
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Andy angelf...@yahoo.com wrote:
1) For URL routing Django uses the re module, which is a C extension. Would
JIT work with that?
Is this re the regular expression module? If so, it's a standard
library module, so PyPy provides one too, rewritten in
Hi Mitchell,
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Mitchell Hashimoto
mitchell.hashim...@gmail.com wrote:
One question: The tests take quite awhile to run, even for a single file. Is
this normal?
Yes, kind of. This is particular to test_ctypes. For me it takes
about 30 seconds just for the
Hi Juergen,
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Juergen Boemmels boemm...@web.de wrote:
I just found the scheme implementation
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/lang-scheme/
but there is no history besides the initial import.
Is this maintained? I.e. is it usful to send patches for improving this?
As
Hi David,
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:44 PM, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Below is the patch, and results, for my proposed hash methods for
datetime.datetime (and easily adaptable to include tzinfo and the other
datetime objects). I tried to make the hash safe for both 32bit and
Hi,
A follow-up to the blog post about Software Transactional Memory (STM)
at http://morepypy.blogspot.com/ .
First, there is a growing number of papers out there that seems to
give solid evidence that STM is better than lock-based systems, for
various definitions of better. In fact Greg Wilson
Re-hi,
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Armin Rigo ar...@tunes.org wrote:
If you do helpful performance fixes, they are probably helpful for
CPython, too, and so they should go to the CPython issue tracker.
...or, I just saw this kind of check-in: pypy doesn't like adding
empty strings
Hi,
The stacklet branch has been merged now. The _continuation module
is available on all PyPys with or without the JIT on x86 and x86-64
since a few days, and it will of course be part of release 1.6.1.
There is an almost-complete wrapper greenlet.py. For documentation
and current limitations
Hi Peter,
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Peter Kruse pjo...@gmail.com wrote:
elif platform.cc.startswith('gcc'):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
Ah, not-explicitly-supported platforms end up as a platform where cc
is None. The line above needs to be fixed
Hi Dino,
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Dino Viehland di...@microsoft.com wrote:
Ahh yeah, I think I had some weird 1.5 build on my laptop where I tried it.
Guess it's time to upgrade.
Same in 1.6, but I fixed it in default today.
Armin
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Hi Yury,
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote:
Will it be possible at some point to write modules for pypy in RPython
without the need to rebuild the entire interpreter?
I've added an answer to this Frequently Asked Question to
Hi Peter,
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Peter Kruse pjo...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess Solaris is an explicitly-not-supported platform then.
May well be. But what I had in mind was not to hack at distutils ---
because I don't know what this really does --- but instead to write a
file called
Hi Laura,
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
It's not that far away for some of us, Finland is beautiful, and they
still have space for talks and sprints.
I appreciate the bait factor in this message :-) But as
importantly, I think that you should tell this
Hi Laura,
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
John Pinner wants to know if any of us are coming and will there be a PyPy
sprint.
I am not --- England is no longer on my yearly road nowadays...
Also, maybe it's worth being recalled: the classical PyPy sprint
Hi Romain,
Can you give again the location of your work? I have
https://github.com/hardshooter/CythonCTypesBackend but I would like to
be sure it is the most recent location. If so, then I'm a bit
confused because I don't find more than three tests. Where are the
tests? (Sorry, anyone with
Hi all (particularly Fijal or Antonio),
Can you explain the current state of the benchmarks, and possibly fix
it? As far as I understand it runs fine but no longer updates the
benchmarks themselves:
http://buildbot.pypy.org/summary?category=benchmark-run
A bientôt,
Armin.
Hi Anto,
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Antonio Cuni anto.c...@gmail.com wrote:
yes, I tried to have two checkouts in parallel but failed. I don't remember
the details, only that it looks easy (how hard can it be?), but then I
encountered a herd of yaks to shave.
Of course, now that I
Hi Elad,
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Elad Lahav e2la...@gmail.com wrote:
The source files were created under the /tmp directory. The first thing I am
missing, though, is a makefile.
The Makefile should be in /tmp/usession-xxx/testing_1/.
A bientôt,
Armin.
Hi Elad,
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Elad Lahav e2la...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, Armin, but that's the first place I looked. There is no makefile
there.
Doesn't make much sense to me. A Makefile (not a makefile) should
be created. If it wasn't, then maybe it crashed during writing the
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Peter Cock p.j.a.c...@googlemail.com wrote:
Thanks, I'll use that. Its a shame that wasn't in Python 2.5 though,
my copy of Jython doesn't support it either.
The older and more robust way to check this is:
__pypy__ in sys.builtin_module_names
Armin
Hi Boris,
All machine code instructions produced by the JIT have a place that
they code from in your RPython code. In this case I suspect that it's
from self.compare(), but again, it's a bit hard to know without having
access to the complete source code.
Alternatively, there is a way to display
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Christian Tismer tis...@stackless.com wrote:
This should work for me as well. So if nothing suddenly happens,
count me in.
Nice to see you again! Yes, I confirm that I will also be there
starting from the 24th or 28th of October (hopefully we know soonish
Hi Boris,
Sorry, I can't help you more from just seeing the fragments of code.
I would need to look at the whole source.
Armin
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Hi Geoffrey,
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Geoffrey Thomas geo...@mit.edu wrote:
I'm looking at building a real application using PyPy's sandbox mode, and am
having a harder time than I'd expect finding any examples of people using
the sandbox in the real world.
This is because, as far as
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
What's the PyPy position on bytecode hacking? Good, bad, evil, don't mind
either way?
(...)
Secondly, it's useless for speed when you have a JIT.
Indeed, although it is not 100% true, because we also have an
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
So the question is: would it be a burden for PyPy to make any guarantees
about the stability of bytecode?
The answer is: Feel free to do anything or nothing with CPython's
bytecode. As Fijal says it has little to
Hi Zariko,
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Zariko Taba zariko.t...@gmail.com wrote:
I hit an assert in pypy/annotation/annrpython.py in addpendingblock line 231
: assert annmodel.unionof(s_oldarg, s_newarg) == s_oldarg
This is an assert that we keep hitting from time to time. Your
Hi Maciej,
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
So while I agree that ideally, JIT could handle whatever it has, but
maybe json is an example good enough to warrant changes.
Yes, I agree in theory. (Didn't look in detail at the proposed
patches.)
Hi,
2011/9/24 Andrew Francis andrewfr_...@yahoo.com:
A suggestion. Perhaps it would be good to keep the test for whether CPython is
the interpreter and greenlets ought to be used?
Feel free to propose concrete improvements.
As I said already, I implemented the code so far but I don't really
Hi David,
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 22:43, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
It occurred to me that with the many options available for jit (such as
inlining, function_threshold) there may be some merit to optimising those
values.
You are correct in that it makes sense to try more to
Hi Ronny,
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 23:27, Ronny Pfannschmidt
ronny.pfannschm...@gmx.de wrote:
I’d like to collect thoughts on having built-in primitives for
co-routine suspension
it would greatly simplify the work for tool-kits like eventlet/gevent,
since no longer they would need to
Hi,
2011/9/28 Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com:
What I try to accomplish is to learn whether it is possible to map
particular SpaceOperation with right line of original source file.
Good luck with this one. You may want to look at the dis module
to see how it is used.
Note also that
Hi,
Is the conclusion just the fact that, again, the JIT's warm-up time is
important, which we know very well? Or is there some other effect
that cannot be explained just by that? (BTW, Laura, it's unrelated to
multithreading if it's based on the multiprocessing module.)
A bientôt,
Armin.
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 03:16, John Anderson son...@gmail.com wrote:
sontek@beast$ pypy --version
Python 2.7.1 (?, Sep 12 2011, 23:40:42)
[PyPy 1.6.0 with GCC 4.6.0]
Try running just pypy and see if it prints the following warning lines:
debug: WARNING: Library path not found, using
Hi Galfy,
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 16:09, Galfy Pundee
galfyo.pun...@googlemail.com wrote:
Is it possible to create an executable package, using PyPy, that is
running the python code in a sandboxed environment?
Unclear what you really mean, but I can answer yes to both
interpretations of your
Hi Amaury,
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 21:54, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any other way to do the equivalent of `sys.gettrace` in PyPy?
Hum, it was probably ovelooked.
Seems trivial to implement, will give a try.
Indeed, sys.gettrace() and sys.getprofile() were added
Hi all,
The deadline for submitting talks to the US PyCon 2012 conference is
already coming: October 12.
Armin
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Hi Maciej,
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 23:06, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone wants to get something else there?
There is:
* continulets/greenlets/stacklets need to be fixed, or disabled, as
per https://bugs.pypy.org/issue895
* https://bugs.pypy.org/issue884 on Windows is still
Hi,
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:15, Ram Rachum r...@rachum.com wrote:
Did anyone give that a try?
Sorry, it may take a while, because Windows is not our primary
platform. In the meantime, could you try with this latest version of
pypy? Thanks!
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 13:11, Ram Rachum r...@rachum.com wrote:
Trying to download this file results in getting a tiny corrupted archive.
Also, I don't know whether this is a source release or a binary release. I
don't know to compile so I can only use a binary one.
Bah, I don't know why
Hi Maciej,
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be used
for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
opinions?
Of course I agree. Note that 6 nights at Chalmers Studenthem is
Hi Amaury,
r47983 be8493f31b60 py3k | amauryfa | 2011-10-12 22:19 +0200
pypy/module/sys/system.py
pypy/module/sys/version.py
pypy/module/sys/vm.py
Fix some metaclasses, and the sys module can now be imported
Please wait a second before doing all these changes. You are
Hi Amaury,
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 16:37, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
All these changes occur in strings that start with
app = gateway.applevel('''
Oups! Indeed. Sorry, I mistook that.
A bientôt,
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Hi,
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 19:57, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
.. _`people`:
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/extradoc/src/tip/sprintinfo/gothenburg-2011/people.txt
This is the file containing the previous sprint's attendance. I
suggest we use instead a file in the correct directory,
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:34, Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote:
I'm confused -- I'm fairly convinced you think that a reasonable JIT
is harder than writing numpy, and not the other way around?
Let me chime in --- applying the JIT to numpypy or to any other
piece of RPython code
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 14:19, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
The other situation is where PyPy does its own thing and supports some NumPy
code that happens to run faster than in CPython, while other code does not
work at all, with the possibility to replace it in a PyPy specific
Hi Mark,
Welcome :-)
I shall be looking for cheap accommodation and will try to book
the Veckobostader as suggested in the blog.
Ok. Sorry, it seems that we are 3 people there in total, so we cannot
offer you a shared room.
A bientôt,
Armin.
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Hi Mark,
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:37, mark.pea...@skynet.be wrote:
I assume this will be impractical for use at the sprint, so has someone got
a spare x86 machine, preferably linux or Mac that I could borrow for the
sprint?
That should not be a big problem. You can do a lot of development
Hi,
I think I improved the time quite a lot in revision c98931f5191b.
The memory usage is known to be larger on PyPy for this kind of
operations. For a more general program with a lot of instances it can
be equivalent or slightly better than CPython.
A bientôt,
Armin.
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 15:54, Ian Ozsvald i...@ianozsvald.com wrote:
ShedSkin (from memory)
requests fast math and a few other things in the generated Makefile.
Ah, it is cheating that way. Indeed, I didn't try to play with gcc
options; I just used -O2 (or -O3, which made no difference).
Hi Maciej,
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:05, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless I'm missing something offset for get/setarrayitem are not
necesarilly intermediate values
Assuming you mean immediate values instead of intermediate: the
content of the checkin shows that it meant that
Hi,
I don't really care about the website design, and I will generally
tend to prefer what I'm used to over something new. But the fact is
that I really prefer *a lot* the existing pypy.org over the new one.
It is html-as-expected: pages with reasonably-sized text that contain
reasonably-colored
Hi David,
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 19:53, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
The binary, however, does not work and core dumps when started with:
This looks like a misuse of libgc. If you really care, you need to
read the docs of Boehm to see if they say anything specific to FreeBSD
Hi,
The build has been officialized and is now available from
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/downloads .
A bientôt,
Armin.
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Hi,
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:28, Romain Guillebert romain...@gmail.com wrote:
Probably because he (as a clojure developer) likes immutability of data
structures.
No, it's really needed for the way it is written: by creating a new
dict, the old purefunction results no longer apply. But we
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 06:30, Rinu Boney rinu.mat...@gmail.com wrote:
where can i get more information on rpython ( i have already seen what is
written in the coding guide! ) ?
The coding guide describes the basics, and we have a number of
examples of small interpreters besides the Python
Hi Justin,
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 09:09, Justin Noah justinn...@gmail.com wrote:
Here are the llvm/clang build using the shadowstack gc. What do you think?
1. What is the baseline you are comparing it with?
2. I assume these are normal JITting PyPys. In that case, then
for benchmarks like
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