Re: [Python-Dev] Informal educator feedback on PEP 572 (was Re: 2018 Python Language Summit coverage, last part)

2018-06-24 Thread Ben Finney
suspicious.” —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion

2018-06-04 Thread Ben Finney
s.” —John Kenneth | _o__)Galbraith, 1992-05-23 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] What is the rationale behind source only releases?

2018-05-15 Thread Ben Finney
aspirations to conform themselves | `\ to fact, not to try and make facts harmonise with my | _o__) aspirations.“ —Thomas Henry Huxley, 1860-09-23 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: [Python-Dev] Slow down...

2018-05-08 Thread Ben Finney
en, yahoo!, I'd have all my money back.” —Jack Handey | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 394 update proposal: Allow changing the `python` command in some cases

2018-04-27 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> writes: > Petr Viktorin <encu...@gmail.com> writes: > > > […] we feel that the only way to *enforce* that guidelines is to > > provide environments where the `python` command does not work > > (unless explicitly insta

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 394 update proposal: Allow changing the `python` command in some cases

2018-04-26 Thread Ben Finney
sing the already-supported, already-documented, PEP-394 compatible means to add local customisations for a ‘python’ command. -- \ “Pity the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.” —Donald | `\ Robert Perry Marquis | _o__)

Re: [Python-Dev] Round 2 of the Python Language Summit coverage at LWN

2016-06-08 Thread Ben Finney
To punish me for my contempt of authority, Fate has made me an | `\ authority myself.” —Albert Einstein, 1930-09-18 | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing lis

[Python-Dev] Mailing list metadata via RFC 2369 (was: Terminal console)

2016-04-26 Thread Ben Finney
ndard information. -- \ “Anything that we scientists can do to weaken the hold of | `\religion should be done and may in the end be our greatest | _o__) contribution to civilization.” —Steven Weinberg | Ben Finney ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Maybe, just maybe, pathlib doesn't belong.

2016-04-11 Thread Ben Finney
ly a form of stupidity. It | `\indicates an inability to think the same thing out twice.” | _o__)—Henry L. Mencken | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] What does a double coding cookie mean?

2016-03-15 Thread Ben Finney
mean otherwise. On reflection I can't see a good reason for it to mean otherwise. -- \ “Alternative explanations are always welcome in science, if | `\ they are better and explain more. Alternative explanations that | _o__) explain nothing are not welcome.” —Victor J. Stenger, 2001-11-

Re: [Python-Dev] Thank you.

2016-02-21 Thread Ben Finney
out, significantly better. Thank you all. -- \ “Only the shallow know themselves.” —Oscar Wilde, _Phrases and | `\ Philosophies for the Use of the Young_, 1894 | _o__)

Re: [Python-Dev] just a friendly developer

2016-01-31 Thread Ben Finney
iendly environment. -- \ “The internet's completely over.… Anyway, all these computers | `\and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with | _o__) numbers and that can't be good for you.” —Prince, 2010-07-05 | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Code formatter bot

2016-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] Code formatter bot

2016-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
<URL:http://editorconfig.org/> -- \ “Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?” “I think so, | `\ Brain, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?” | _o__) —_Pinky and The Brai

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 257 and __init__

2015-12-29 Thread Ben Finney
rdless which function we're talking about. So the tool is correct to complain. -- \ “If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we | `\ despise, we don't believe in it at all.” —Noam Chomsky, | _o__) 19

Re: [Python-Dev] Where is defined the grammar of Python?

2015-10-25 Thread Ben Finney
;URL:https://docs.python.org/3/reference/grammar.html>. -- \ “Holy astringent plum-like fruit, Batman!” —Robin | `\ | _o__)

[Python-Dev] PEP 8 recommends short module names because FAT is still common today (was: PEP-8 wart... it recommends short names because of DOS)

2015-10-20 Thread Ben Finney
o believe passionately in | `\the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind.” | _o__) —Henry L. Mencken | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 8 recommends short module names because FAT is still common today

2015-10-20 Thread Ben Finney
valid, but its absence doesn't harm the PEP. -- \ “I busted a mirror and got seven years bad luck, but my lawyer | `\thinks he can get me five.” —Steven Wright | _o__)

Re: [Python-Dev] An example of Python 3 promotion attitude

2015-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
y” <URL:http://learnpythonthehardway.org/>, a book which (reportedly) has not been updated since 2010. -- \ “Liberal capitalism is not at all the Good of humanity. Quite | `\the contrary; it is the vehicle of savage, destructive | _o__) nihilism.” —

Re: [Python-Dev] Burning down the backlog.

2015-08-17 Thread Ben Finney
to lead a rousing “Yay, go team backlog burners!” -- \ “I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the | `\death your right to mis-attribute this quote to Voltaire.” | _o__) —Avram Grumer, rec.arts.sf.written, 2000-05-30 | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process?

2015-07-28 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: On 28 July 2015 at 13:35, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: People can, do, and probably must make many decisions through non-rational processes. I don't propose to change that. Good. Choices can be made that, when challenged, lack

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process?

2015-07-28 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process?

2015-07-27 Thread Ben Finney
Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net writes: On 21 July 2015 at 00:34, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: Again, I'm sorry to pick on one sentence out of context, but it cut straight to my biggest fear when doing a commit (on any

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process? (was Re: How far to go with user-friendliness)

2015-07-27 Thread Ben Finney
) Rathbun to advertisers, news.admin.net-abuse.email | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Devguide - Add Communications Quick Start Section

2015-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
on [a] fundamental technology, | `\ calls it proprietary, and then tries to keep others from | _o__) building on it, is a thief.” —Tim O'Reilly, 2000-01-25 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process? (was Re: How far to go with user-friendliness)

2015-07-21 Thread Ben Finney
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: On 20 July 2015 at 22:34, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: […] my biggest fear when doing a commit (on any project) - what if, after all the worrying and consideration I put into doing

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-20 Thread Ben Finney
if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?” —anonymous | `\ | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-20 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-17 Thread Ben Finney
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: On 17 July 2015 at 08:30, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: By definition, advocating to not add cruft to an API is going to be in advance of being bitten by those additions. That's not what people are doing. Folks are actually arguing

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-16 Thread Ben Finney
say “Fortuna”, and | `\I say “cantata”, Carmina, Burana, Fortuna, cantata, Let's Carl | _o__)the whole thing Orff.” —anonymous | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-16 Thread Ben Finney
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 06:59:16 +1000 Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: +1. These checks are a good thing, but they belong in a linter tool not as aliases in the API. Practicality beats purity. Unless you have been actually

Re: [Python-Dev] Type hints -- a mediocre programmer's reaction

2015-04-20 Thread Ben Finney
of a profound truth may well be another profound | _o__) truth.” —Niels Bohr | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

2015-04-05 Thread Ben Finney
)contained the antidote.” —Emo Philips | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail

Re: [Python-Dev] some minor questions about pep8

2015-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
with the version information as well? Yes. -- \ “Welchen Teil von ‘Gestalt’ verstehen Sie nicht? [What part of | `\‘gestalt’ don't you understand?]” —Karsten M. Self | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.x and 3.x use survey, 2014 edition

2014-12-15 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.x and 3.x use survey, 2014 edition

2014-12-15 Thread Ben Finney
Alex Gaynor alex.gay...@gmail.com writes: Ben Finney ben+python at benfinney.id.au writes: Rather, the claim is that *if* one's code base doesn't migrate to Python 3, it will be decreasingly supported by the PSF and the Python community at large. The PSF doesn't support any versions

[Python-Dev] Making it possible to accept contributions without CLA (was: My thinking about the development process)

2014-12-08 Thread Ben Finney
need to know the specific barriers to such a goal. What are they? -- \ “A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me | `\ at kick boxing.” —Emo Philips | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Making it possible to accept contributions without CLA

2014-12-08 Thread Ben Finney
for a year | `\and a half.” —Gracie Allen | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Finney
is more enlightened precisely | `\ because we have learned how to ignore our religious leaders.” | _o__)—Bill Maher, 2003 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-30 Thread Ben Finney
)frustration.” —Charles Stross, 2010-05-09 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-30 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-30 Thread Ben Finney
information. So Ethan's impression is correct on this point. -- \ “If you see an animal and you can't tell if it's a skunk or a | `\ cat, here's a good saying to help: ‘Black and white, stinks all | _o__) right. Tabby-colored, likes a fella.’” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-30 Thread Ben Finney
learn from the internet | `\ is that there is no ‘them’ out there. It's just an awful lot of | _o__)‘us’.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

2014-11-29 Thread Ben Finney
of a thing is the amount of what I call life which is | `\ required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long | _o__) run.” —Henry David Thoreau | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Move selected documentation repos to PSF BitBucket account?

2014-11-24 Thread Ben Finney
significant number of users want fixed.” —Bill Gates, | _o__) 1995-10-23 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] Bytes path support

2014-08-20 Thread Ben Finney
what the slave | `\ trade was to the 16th.” —David Mertz | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Multiline with statement line continuation

2014-08-16 Thread Ben Finney
) Came, Where It Went_, 1975 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive

Re: [Python-Dev] Multiline ‘with’ statement line continuation

2014-08-11 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] Multiline 'with' statement line continuation

2014-08-11 Thread Ben Finney
similar to tuples but actually mean something else. -- \ “I have an answering machine in my car. It says, ‘I'm home now. | `\ But leave a message and I'll call when I'm out.’” —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] pathlib handling of trailing slash (Issue #21039)

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0

2014-03-17 Thread Ben Finney
happen. -- \ “Why should I care about posterity? What's posterity ever done | `\for me?” —Groucho Marx | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 complexity - 2 use cases

2014-01-10 Thread Ben Finney
Jim J. Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com writes: Steven D'Aprano wrote: I think that heuristics to guess the encoding have their role to play, if the caller understands the risks. Ben Finney wrote: In my opinion, content-type guessing heuristics certainly don't belong in the standard

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 complexity

2014-01-09 Thread Ben Finney
. -- \ “Nothing is more sacred than the facts.” —Sam Harris, _The End | `\ of Faith_, 2004 | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 complexity

2014-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 complexity

2014-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com writes: On 2014-01-09 00:07, Ben Finney wrote: Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com writes: Python 3 forces you to think about abstract concepts like encodings when all you want is to open that .txt file on the drive and extract some phone numbers

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 complexity

2014-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
. -- \己所不欲、勿施于人。 | `\(What is undesirable to you, do not do to others.) | _o__) —孔夫子 Confucius, 551 BCE – 479 BCE | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 complexity

2014-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: On 9 January 2014 10:07, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com writes: Believe it or not, sometimes you really don't care about encodings. Sometimes you just want to parse text files. Files

[Python-Dev] Discoverability of guides to Python 3 porting (was: 2.x vs 3.x survey results)

2014-01-05 Thread Ben Finney
.” | `\—Microsoft Vista security dialogue | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
! -- \ “Our task must be to free ourselves from our prison by widening | `\our circle of compassion to embrace all humanity and the whole | _o__) of nature in its beauty.” —Albert Einstein | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Thanks for python!

2014-01-02 Thread Ben Finney
access | `\ to information. They are the tool of choice for the internet | _o__) highwayman.” —Anthony Taylor | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Ben Finney
morning, Pooh Bear”, said Eeyore gloomily. “If it is a | `\ good morning”, he said. “Which I doubt”, said he. —A. A. Milne, | _o__)_Winnie-the-Pooh_ | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Support keyword in PEP URL?

2013-10-12 Thread Ben Finney
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com writes: 2013/10/12 Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au: Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com writes: For draft PEP, the identifier may change. Note that this isn't a matter of the PEP being draft; once a PEP has a number, it deserves

Re: [Python-Dev] Support keyword in PEP URL?

2013-10-11 Thread Ben Finney
is as if everything is.” | _o__) —Albert Einstein | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options

Re: [Python-Dev] Use an empty def as a lambda

2013-09-21 Thread Ben Finney
’ expression. There is no third type of object being discussed here. -- \ “Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the | `\ occurrence of the improbable.” —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Need testing audio files

2013-09-11 Thread Ben Finney
that you are not going | _o__) to do any innovation in the future.” —Gary Barnett | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Offtopic: OpenID Providers

2013-09-05 Thread Ben Finney
exponential growth can go on forever in a | `\finite world is either a madman or an economist.” —Kenneth | _o__) Boulding | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Daemon creation code in the standard library

2013-07-26 Thread Ben Finney
is crazy. The question that | `\ divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of | _o__)being correct.” —Niels Bohr (to Wolfgang Pauli), 1958 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

[Python-Dev] Daemon creation code in the standard library (was: Inherance of file descriptor and handles on Windows (PEP 446))

2013-07-24 Thread Ben Finney
of the possible. It consists in | `\ choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable.” —John | _o__)Kenneth Galbraith, 1962-03-02 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

Re: [Python-Dev] Daemon creation code in the standard library

2013-07-24 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: Work continues on the PEP 3143-compatible ‘python-daemon’, porting it to Python 3 and aiming for inclusion in the standard library. At PyPI URL:http://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-daemon/, and development co-ordinated at Alioth URL:https

Re: [Python-Dev] Dash

2013-07-19 Thread Ben Finney
Mistake_ (The Guardian, | _o__) 2006-12-27) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Dash

2013-07-19 Thread Ben Finney
Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com writes: 19.07.13 10:25, Ben Finney написав(ла): Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com writes: What type of dash is preferable in the documentation? The en dash (–) or the em dash (—)? They have different purposes; use whichever is appropriate

Re: [Python-Dev] Dash

2013-07-19 Thread Ben Finney
) _Fragments_ | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Dash

2013-07-19 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.4 and Windows XP: just 45 days until EOL

2013-07-11 Thread Ben Finney
remove that consideration? -- \ “If you do not trust the source do not use this program.” | `\—Microsoft Vista security dialogue | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Reminder: an oft-forgotten rule about docstring formatting (PEP 257)

2013-06-27 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Python-Dev] Reminder: an oft-forgotten rule about docstring formatting (PEP 257)

2013-06-26 Thread Ben Finney
.” —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options

Re: [Python-Dev] backported Enum

2013-06-16 Thread Ben Finney
)reason.” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] backported Enum

2013-06-15 Thread Ben Finney
? -- \ “Free thought is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition | `\ for democracy.” —Carl Sagan | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] backported Enum

2013-06-15 Thread Ben Finney
Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes: On Jun 15, 2013, at 10:45 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Is there anything I can do to keep the ‘enum’ package online for continuity but make it clear, to automated tools, that this is end-of-life and obsoleted by another package

Re: [Python-Dev] Deciding against the CLA

2013-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info writes: On 13/04/13 20:30, Ben Finney wrote: Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org writes: A failure to sign the CLA is already a decision not to contribute to the distribution As someone who cannot in good faith sign the CLA

[Python-Dev] Deciding against the CLA (was: Introducing Electronic Contributor Agreements)

2013-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
it | _o__)later?” —http://www.achewood.com/ | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive

Re: [Python-Dev] [Announcement] New mailing list for code quality tools including Flake8, Pyflakes and Pep8

2013-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
/gmane.comp.python.code-quality. Thanks guys! -- \ “I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or | `\anything that could be understood as anthropomorphic.” —Albert | _o__)Einstein, unsent letter, 1955 | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-19 Thread Ben Finney
) _Digital Copyright_ | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] TZ-aware local time

2012-06-11 Thread Ben Finney
.“ —Thomas Henry Huxley, 1860-09-23 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] TZ-aware local time

2012-06-11 Thread Ben Finney
Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org writes: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Unambiguous storage of absolute time can be achieved with POSIX timestamps, but that is certainly not the only nor best way to do it. For example, RFC 5322

Re: [Python-Dev] TZ-aware local time

2012-06-06 Thread Ben Finney
) _Following the Equator_ | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-06-06 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net writes: list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: […] * PEP 3143: Standard daemon process library Our porting work will not be done in time for Python 3.3. I will update

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Ben Finney
-altering drug is truth.” —Jane Wagner, via Lily | `\Tomlin | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] netiquette on py-dev

2012-04-25 Thread Ben Finney
to “Reply to list” when appropriate is acceptable to me. -- \ “Don't you try to outweird me, I get stranger things than you | `\ free with my breakfast cereal.” —Zaphod Beeblebrox, _The | _o__)Restaurant At The End Of The Universe_, Douglas Adams | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] netiquette on py-dev

2012-04-24 Thread Ben Finney
their message appeared. So, no need to send them another copy individually. -- \ “There is something wonderful in seeing a wrong-headed majority | `\ assailed by truth.” —John Kenneth Galbraith, 1989-07-28 | _o__) | Ben

Re: [Python-Dev] Using Cython for developing a module to be used from postgreSQL/pl/python

2012-03-31 Thread Ben Finney
) direction.” —Alvin Toffler | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Playing with a new theme for the docs, iteration 2

2012-03-25 Thread Ben Finney
desires.” —Susan Brownell Anthony, 1896 | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Playing with a new theme for the docs, iteration 2

2012-03-25 Thread Ben Finney
complaints are justified? -- \“… Nature … is seen to do all things herself and through | `\ herself of own accord, rid of all gods.” —Titus Lucretius | _o__) Carus, c. 40 BCE | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Playing with a new theme for the docs

2012-03-24 Thread Ben Finney
for one minority over others. -- \ “Come on Milhouse, there’s no such thing as a soul! It’s just | `\ something they made up to scare kids, like the Boogie Man or | _o__) Michael Jackson.” —Bart, _The Simpsons_ | Ben Finney

Re: [Python-Dev] Playing with a new theme for the docs

2012-03-21 Thread Ben Finney
, because later you might think you're having a | _o__) good idea but it's just eggs hatching.” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 8 misnaming

2012-03-14 Thread Ben Finney
logical operators bind at lower priority than the equality operator. -- \ “If you do not trust the source do not use this program.” | `\—Microsoft Vista security dialogue | _o__) | Ben

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 410 (Decimal timestamp): the implementation is ready for a review

2012-02-18 Thread Ben Finney
? Killing myself is the last thing I'd ever do.” | `\—Homer, _The Simpsons_ | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] best place for an atomic file API

2012-02-15 Thread Ben Finney
, and | `\ more about adding life to years.” —Arthur C. Clarke, 2001 | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Python-Dev] best place for an atomic file API

2012-02-15 Thread Ben Finney
Brian Curtin br...@python.org writes: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 19:19, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr writes: […] using rename() on POSIX systems and MoveFileEx() on Windows (which are now available through os.replace()). It would also

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 410 (Decimal timestamp): the implementation is ready for a review

2012-02-15 Thread Ben Finney
in again. -- \ “Why should I care about posterity? What's posterity ever done | `\for me?” —Groucho Marx | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Python

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