Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 5/5/21 9:31 PM, Paul Bryan wrote: Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for use in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.python from the python-list mailing list. Both would

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

On 5/9/21 11:26 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > Out of curiosity, how do people without a Code of Conduct > manage and prevent abuse in between people? I was about > to organise something last year but did not find a better solution > than a code of conduct to ensure smoothness. Well the

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

Greetings, Out of curiosity, how do people without a Code of Conduct manage and prevent abuse in between people? I was about to organise something last year but did not find a better solution than a code of conduct to ensure smoothness. Well the idea was a before-hand signed code of conduct. It

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

> I disagree. Many people are opposed to CoCs for a variety of reasons > including the fact that many CoCs are political in nature. Others > oppose them for legal liability reasons. On his radio show Ask Noah (a > radio show about Linux), Noah has interviewed several people who oppose > CoCs

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > That said, there is nothing to be gained by upsetting people... > I misquoted the relevant section from Chris' answer, i wanted to quote: *I'm not saying that the previous situation was GOOD, but I'm far fromsure that the current

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

On 09/05/2021 20.31, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:29 AM Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> Probably the same reason it has never worked. The only thing that's >> changed is the social acceptability of vilifying those you don't like. >> Once upon a time, there were those

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

I meant to quote this part actually: I'm not saying that the previous situation was GOOD, but I'm far from sure that the current situation is any better - look at the arguments regarding branch naming, which completely sidelined all technical considerations in favour of one single political

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:29 AM Chris Angelico wrote: > > Probably the same reason it has never worked. The only thing that's > changed is the social acceptability of vilifying those you don't like. > Once upon a time, there were those in the community who had all the > power, and those on the

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:10 AM Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 5/8/21 6:23 PM, Jason C. McDonald wrote: > > Usually, I find when people dump on CoCs, they're just angry at > > accountability. I haven't known anyone yet who was a productive > > member of Python and opposed to the CoC, at least in

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

On 5/8/21 6:23 PM, Jason C. McDonald wrote: > Usually, I find when people dump on CoCs, they're just angry at > accountability. I haven't known anyone yet who was a productive > member of Python and opposed to the CoC, at least in principle > and aim. I disagree. Many people are opposed to CoCs

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

On 5/8/21 3:28 PM, Mirko via Python-list wrote: > > I apologize for this OT post, especially because it's in reply to an > at least partly troll post, but I just can't resist. Sorry. > > P.S.: *NOT* among the core symptoms of (the high-functioning levels) > of ASS is the inability to learn. Mind

Re: OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

Very well said! It's quite easy to use one's disadvantages as an excuse for anti-social behavior. The Code of Conduct certainly isn't perfect, but it has proven to be one of the most effective tools in keeping a community healthy. Usually, I find when people dump on CoCs, they're just angry at

OT: Autism in discussion groups (was: Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list)

I apologize for this OT post, especially because it's in reply to an at least partly troll post, but I just can't resist. Sorry. Am 08.05.2021 um 14:09 schrieb Talkie Toaster: > On 06/05/2021 18:56, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> Quite frankly I don't care how this discussion goes as the Python >>

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

comp.lang.python from the python-list mailing list. Both would then operate independently. Paul Quite frankly I don't care how this discussion goes as the Python community discriminates against Asperger's suffers such as myself. I believe I am also on the spectrum and feel the same way about

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Paul Bryan writes: > Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for use > in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for > staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.python from > the python-list mailing list. Both would

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Chris Green wrote: > > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2021-05-06, Chris Green wrote: > >> > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > > >> >> Pointing a newsreader at news.gmane.io allows one to participate in > >> >> the mailing list just fine without using Usenet. > >>

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

My opinion on all this: The volume in this newsgroup is nowhere near high enough to be worth changing anything. This thread itself now contains more messages than the recent neopython trollage that prompted it. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 5/6/21 11:05 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Stestagg wrote: >> Where's this discussion going? >> >> Which of the practically possible options are best for this list <-> >> newsgroup setup? > > And it appears even the suggestion that > Mailman 3 cannot be used while a

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Chris Green wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2021-05-06, Chris Green wrote: >> > Grant Edwards wrote: >> > >> >> Pointing a newsreader at news.gmane.io allows one to participate in >> >> the mailing list just fine without using Usenet. >> >> >> > ??? Surely that *is* using

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

I do not believe my proposal has reached—or will reach—consensus. It seems there are some who still value the linkage between the two, and the S/N ratio is indeed low enough it doesn't warrant changing from the status quo. Thanks everyone for the consideration and discussion.  Paul On Thu,

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Stestagg wrote: > Where's this discussion going? > > Let's not get too caught up on definitions or the sizes of everyone's > respective .. newsgroups. > > Which of the practically possible options are best for this list <-> > newsgroup setup? As before I'd suggest that changing

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Where's this discussion going? Let's not get too caught up on definitions or the sizes of everyone's respective .. newsgroups. Which of the practically possible options are best for this list <-> newsgroup setup? Thanks Steve On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:47 PM Jon Ribbens via Python-list <

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/6/21 9:44 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >> Sounds like nearly all moderated lists/forums then. > > Then perhaps you have never been on a real Moderated mailing list or > Forum. Ah, the "no true scotsforum" argument ;-) >>> While you could

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Chris Green wrote: > > Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> Pointing a newsreader at news.gmane.io allows one to participate in > >> the mailing list just fine without using Usenet. > >> > > ??? Surely that *is* using Usenet, at least you're using NNTP which > >

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 5/6/21 9:44 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 5/6/21 6:12 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >>> I think you're fundamentally missing the point that the newsgroup is >>> *already gatewayed to the mailing list*. Marking the group moderated

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Chris Green wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Pointing a newsreader at news.gmane.io allows one to participate in >> the mailing list just fine without using Usenet. >> > ??? Surely that *is* using Usenet, at least you're using NNTP which > is the Usenet protocol. What's "not

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

> > Not that I support shutting down the Usenet/email gateway -- the > > signal/noise ration seems fine to me. > > > On that I quite agree. :-) I remind people that the existing Usenet<->Mail gateway keeps the mailing list software on mail.python.org from migrating to Mailman 3. I'm sure Mark

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Granted, I did move from pure comp.lang.python to > gmane.comp.python.general when the spam became too much to keep > track of. (Now if I could only figure out why the beaglebone group > stopped accepting replies via gmane -- I keep having

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

I will also add that it can get confusing when someone replies to a newsgroup posting that was originally suppressed to the mailing list. This has happened as recently as today. On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 14:36 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, May 6, 2021

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:43 AM Avi Gross via Python-list > > wrote: > >> > >> Chris, > >> > >> Given some notice, what stops anyone from joining the mailing list before > >> there is a divorce between the forums? > > > > Nothing!

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 5/5/21 10:33 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: I, for one, wish more mailing lists did have newsgroup access (I also wish for the demise of Google Groups, but short of a large explosive in Mountain View, doubt that will come to pass). Instead everything is being splintered into smaller

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

It was high time  a proposal like that came up We have seen from time to time some comp lang interruptions ~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:43 AM Avi Gross via Python-list > wrote: >> >> Chris, >> >> Given some notice, what stops anyone from joining the mailing list before >> there is a divorce between the forums? > > Nothing! Nothing at all. That is, if you're talking

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: > If the idea is just to provide a NNTP accessible version of the mailing > list, than perhaps rather than a comp.* group, putting it on gmane would > be a viable option, that avoids some of the Usenet issues. The list _is_ on gmane and has been since

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

or suspended are lies? And that the >> message I received once saying that my comp.lang.python post had been >> rejected from the list was also a lie? > > No, as I mentioned in my other post. a "Moderated Mailing List" is > generally described as one which EVERY messa

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

ived once saying that my comp.lang.python post had been >> rejected from the list was also a lie? > > I'm sorry, but I don't recall accusing you of lying, Neither do I. Nor do I remember accusing you of accusing me of lying. Try reading the quoted paragraph above again, since you apparen

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/6/21 6:12 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >> I think you're fundamentally missing the point that the newsgroup is >> *already gatewayed to the mailing list*. Marking the group moderated >> will not result in any more work for the moderators. In

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

> Are you saying that the messages that appear occasionally from people > such as Ethan Furman claiming to be moderators and alleging that > particular people have been banned or suspended are lies? And that the > message I received once saying that my comp.lang.python post had bee

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

he admins/moderators by SpamBayes. My >> definition of "moderation" is that a human vets every post. > That's not a definition that anyone else would use, I think, > and I say that as a moderator of a Usenet group.. > >> That's certainly not the case for python-list@py

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 5/6/21 6:12 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 5/5/21 10:44 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >>> On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: As someone with a long usenet background, converting the existing group to moderated would be

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

t; is that a human vets every post. That's not a definition that anyone else would use, I think, and I say that as a moderator of a Usenet group.. > That's certainly not the case for python-list@python.org. Posts gated > from comp.lang.python to the mailing list only get passed through > SpamBay

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

org. Posts gated from comp.lang.python to the mailing list only get passed through SpamBayes. All other elements of the tool chain occur ahead of the gateway. If we are using two different definitions of "moderation" I think it is important to be clear what we mean. Skip -- https://mail.p

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/5/21 10:44 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >> On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: >>> As someone with a long usenet background, converting the existing group >>> to moderated would be practically impossible. It just isn't done. It >>> would need

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

uses that extra facilities of NNTP is always going to be better. So my vote is to keep comp.lang.python as it is in terms of content, whether that means changing it to a moderated group or something else I don't mind. The current level of 'noise' is IMHO acceptable, if the people who deal with it

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 5/5/21 10:44 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 5/5/21 9:40 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >>> On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing to do so? >>> Nothing at all

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/5/21 9:40 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >> On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: >>> What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing >>> to do so? >> Nothing at all is involved, apart from changing the status of the group. >>

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 5/5/21 9:40 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: >> What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing >> to do so? > Nothing at all is involved, apart from changing the status of the group. > The moderation would be done by the same

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: > What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing > to do so? Nothing at all is involved, apart from changing the status of the group. The moderation would be done by the same people, in the same way, as the moderation of the list is done

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity > > > for use > > > in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for > > > staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect > > > comp.lang.python from > > > t

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:43 AM Avi Gross via Python-list wrote: > > Chris, > > Given some notice, what stops anyone from joining the mailing list before > there is a divorce between the forums? Nothing! Nothing at all. That is, if you're talking about *people*. People are absolutely welcome to

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.python from >> the python-list mailing list. Both would then operate independently. >> > > As someone who exclusively follows the mailing list, I selfishly want > to support this, as it would notably improve the signal-to-noise > ratio. But I

RE: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

comp.lang.python from python-list On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:32 AM Paul Bryan wrote: > > Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for > use in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for > staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.py

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:32 AM Paul Bryan wrote: > > Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for use > in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for > staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.python from > the python-li

Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for use in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.python from the python-list mailing list. Both would then operate independently. Paul -- https

Re: XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 4/1/2021 5:52:47 AM

So, is that mail spam or ...? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 4/1/2021 5:52:47 AM

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 7:55 AM dn via Python-list wrote: > > On 02/04/2021 01.19, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:56 PM The Doctor via Python-list > > wrote: > >> Top Posters > >> > >> Ranking Articles NameMost Used Newsreader > >> ---

Re: XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 4/1/2021 5:52:47 AM

On 02/04/2021 01.19, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:56 PM The Doctor via Python-list > wrote: >> Top Posters >> >> Ranking Articles NameMost Used Newsreader >> --- -- >> 1 167

Re: XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 4/1/2021 5:52:47 AM

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:56 PM The Doctor via Python-list wrote: > Top Posters > > Ranking Articles NameMost Used Newsreader > --- -- > 1 167 TestBank store G2 > 261

XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 4/1/2021 5:52:47 AM

XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 4/1/2021 5:52:47 AM >From article 587730 (3/1/2021 4:09:02 AM) to article 588588 (3/31/2021 11:40:40 PM) Number of threads ... 385 Number of articles .. 895 Average articles per thread . 2.32 Num

XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 8/1/2020 7:48:48 AM [1/2]

XanaNews Statistic for comp.lang.python. 8/1/2020 7:48:48 AM >From article 581998 (7/1/2020 6:44:35 AM) to article 582636 (7/31/2020 8:24:06 PM) Number of threads ... 318 Number of articles .. 674 Average articles per thread . 2.12 Number of unanswe

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Re: news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

> > Have tracked-down and communicated with the site owner/operator. He > advised a loop-back problem which has now been blocked. > I believe this has been corrected in the past, more than once, though my memory is a bit hazy now. It's not clear to me why this particular site keeps messing up

Re: news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

Have tracked-down and communicated with the site owner/operator. He advised a loop-back problem which has now been blocked. -- Regards =dn -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

> I filter out these messages in my news setup (using gnus on Emacs) on > the header: > > ("head" > ("Injection-Info: news.bbs.nz" -1002 nil s)) > > i.e. each message that contains "news.bbs.nz" in the "Injection-Info" > header will be made invisible. > This solved the problem for me. Thanks.

Re: news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

Skip Montanaro writes: >> This just arrived at my newserver: >> > ... >> I find that very curious because the post is mine but which I >> sent out with these headers: >> I filter out these messages in my news setup (using gnus on Emacs) on the header: ("head" ("Injection-Info: news.bbs.nz"

Re: news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

> This just arrived at my newserver: > ... > I find that very curious because the post is mine but which I > sent out with these headers: > ... > The timezone on the date header has changed, the subject has been > truncated, the Path and injection info is all different, and most > crucially, the

Re: news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

gency.bbs.nz!not-for-mail > From: Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> (Eli the Bearded) > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: Getting a 401 from requests.get, but not when logging in via > the br > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:18:48 +1200 > Organiza

news.bbs.nz is spewing duplicates to comp.lang.python

; (Eli the Bearded) Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Getting a 401 from requests.get, but not when logging in via the br Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:18:48 +1200 Organization: fsxNet Usenet Gateway | bbs.nz/#fsxNet Message-ID: <3057175...@f38.n261.z1.binkp.net> Referenc

Re: comp.lang.python

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comp.lang.python

The comp.lang.python.announce newsgroup (or c.l.py.a for short) has been created in early 1998 as a companion newsgroup for comp.lang.python focused on Python-related announcements. ... other items of general interest to the Python community. https://www.gangboard.com/big-data-training/data

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

On 2018-02-10 16:40, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Chris Green wrote: Michael F. Stemper wrote: On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: Use ssh (is that available at worK?) to connect from work to home Your ISP

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: Alternative approach, what I do:- Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on my home system, read news locally using that. Use ssh (is that available at worK?) to connect from work to home Your ISP provides that

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Chris Green wrote: > Michael F. Stemper wrote: >> On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: >> >> > Alternative approach, what I do:- >> > >> > Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on >> >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google

5, pyotr filipivich >>>> wrote: >>>>> [snip] >>>>> Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the >>>>> loss >>>>> of the google groupies. >>>> >>>> I use GG to read comp.lang.python be

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

Michael F. Stemper wrote: > On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: > > > Alternative approach, what I do:- > > > > Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on > > my home system, read news locally using that. > > > > Use ssh (is

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

the loss of the google groupies. I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination of factors. I would definitely be happier if there was another way to do this, so that I wouldn't have to wade through lots of spam. - I read it from both home and work. - I can't install

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

On Friday 09 February 2018 23:44:54 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:30:57 -0800, codewizard wrote: > > Regardless of what the policies are and how well they're enforced, > > if the mailing list is cut off from GG, I will stop reading it. > > There is *absolutely nothing* we can do

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:30:57 -0800, codewizard wrote: > Regardless of what the policies are and how well they're enforced, if > the mailing list is cut off from GG, I will stop reading it. There is *absolutely nothing* we can do about that. Google doesn't listen to us, and the suggestion that

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

t;>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> [snip] > >>>>>>> Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the > >>>>>>> loss > >>>>>>> of the google groupies. > >>>>&

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

wrote: codew...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: [snip] Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss of the google groupies. I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination of factors. I

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

gt;>> codew...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> [snip] > >>>>> Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the > >>>>

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

[snip] Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss of the google groupies. I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination of factors. I would definitely be happier if there was another way to do this, so that I wouldn't have to wade through lots of spam.

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

gt; > > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss >> > > of the google groupies. >> > >> > I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination >> > of factors. I would definitely be happier if ther

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

gt; > > of the google groupies. > > > > I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination > > of factors. I would definitely be happier if there was another way to > > do this, so that I wouldn't have to wade through lots of spam. > > > >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > > [snip] > > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > > of the google groupies. > > I use GG to read comp.lang.python because o

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > [snip] > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > of the google groupies. I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination of factors. I would definitely b

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On 09/02/2018 15:37, Chris Green wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any (semi-)decent

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Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: > > > Mark Lawrence wrote: > [...] > >> Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any > >> (semi-)decent mail client like

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On 02/09/2018 08:07 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and

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On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: > Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] >> Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any >> (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and you've > > Surely you mean NNTP/Usenet client.

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n into 30-day blocks? > > > > I just tried GMane again two minutes ago. I can't confirm my recollections, > but right now what I'm seeing is worse. If you follow this link right now... > (http://gmane.org/find.php?list=comp.lang.python)... you get this: > > > >

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to be cumbersome. Weren't the archives broken into 30-day blocks? I just tried GMane again two minutes ago. I can't confirm my recollections, but right now what I'm seeing is worse. If you follow this link right now... (http://gmane.org/find.php?list=comp.lang.python)... you get this: "Not all of

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recollections, but right now what I'm seeing is worse. If you follow this link right now... (http://gmane.org/find.php?list=comp.lang.python)... you get this: "Not all of Gmane is back yet - We're working hard to restore everything" And if you follow the link labeled "The latest news i

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? I just tried GMane again two minutes ago. I can't confirm my recollections, but right now what I'm seeing is worse. If you follow this link right now... (http://gmane.org/find.php?list=comp.lang.python)... you get this: "Not all of Gmane is back yet - We're working hard to restore everything

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We have a newsgroup (comp.lang.python) and a mailing list (python-list) which are mirrored to each other by virtue of the Mailman gateway (ie the mailing list handles both sides of the mirror). Google Groups offers a mail & web interface to the newsgroup Gmane offers a newsgroup interface to th

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On Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:40:57 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out > the disgraceful state of gg and why it should be dropped as it's less > than useless. Who is it that you think should "drop" Google Groups? If you mean individual

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On 08/02/18 23:33, Chris Angelico wrote: The PSF doesn't *need* to take on Google, because there are other newsgroup hosting sites that have less spam. Switch to one of those, and voila, less spam in your inbox. ChrisA I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out

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ipivich >> Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? > > This topic has been hidden because you reported it for abuse. (+39 more) > Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro (2) > By pyotr filipivich > 4 posts 14 views > 5:48 PM > Ho

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se you reported it for abuse. (+39 more) Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro (2) By pyotr filipivich 4 posts 14 views 5:48 PM How to set/update value in a xml file using requests in python (5) By Sum J 5 posts 21 views 4:45 PM EuroPython 2018: Getting ready (1) By

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On 08/02/2018 17:36, Gilmeh Serda wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 04:33:36 +1200, breamoreboy wrote: When trying to access comp.lang.idl-pvwave, a message is now displayed, stating that the group owner needs to remove the spam, and can then apply to Google in order to have access reinstated.

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