Re: [qubes-users] Tidal AppVM - HowTo

['P R' via qubes-users]

Hello Grzesiek,

Am 10.08.2017 3:33 vorm. schrieb "Grzesiek Chodzicki" <
grzegorz.chodzi...@gmail.com>:

I doubt there are a lot of Tidal users who also happen to be QubesOS users
but for those who are here's a quick guide on how to create Tidal AppVM


Thank you for the how-to, I think this should go into the Qubes
Documentation, which can be enhanced/written by everyone of us.
You only need a GitHub account (which is free).

Here is more information how to contribute to the Qubes documentation:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md

I have written a Multimedia how-to about using Amazon Prime / Netflix /
Spotify and playing DVDs via Qubes (Debian based multimedia App-VM).

Maybe you just add your tidal how-to there?

While my how-to is finished it still doesn't made it to the main howto,
which feels somewhat frustrating as I've put some work into it (as you can
see from the discussion threat).

Qubes How-to play Multimedia How-to
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/421

Regards

- PhR

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Re: [qubes-users] Tidal AppVM - HowTo

['P R' via qubes-users]

Sorry wrong Link to the multimedia how-to, the correct one:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/418

- PhR



Am 10.08.2017 8:16 vorm. schrieb "P R" :

Hello Grzesiek,

Am 10.08.2017 3:33 vorm. schrieb "Grzesiek Chodzicki" <
grzegorz.chodzi...@gmail.com>:

I doubt there are a lot of Tidal users who also happen to be QubesOS users
but for those who are here's a quick guide on how to create Tidal AppVM


Thank you for the how-to, I think this should go into the Qubes
Documentation, which can be enhanced/written by everyone of us.
You only need a GitHub account (which is free).

Here is more information how to contribute to the Qubes documentation:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md

I have written a Multimedia how-to about using Amazon Prime / Netflix /
Spotify and playing DVDs via Qubes (Debian based multimedia App-VM).

Maybe you just add your tidal how-to there?

While my how-to is finished it still doesn't made it to the main howto,
which feels somewhat frustrating as I've put some work into it (as you can
see from the discussion threat).

Qubes How-to play Multimedia How-to
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/418


Regards

- PhR

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[qubes-users] Re: Problem installing Qubes 4rc1 on Lenovo Thinkpad X200 - Installer hangs with VT-d enabled / without: libxenlight failed to create new domain (with/without iommo-tweak)

['P R' via qubes-users]

Hello,

I've asked some days ago if someone has been able get Qubes OS 4rc1 up and
running on a Lenovo Thinkpad X200 (which works fine under Qubes 3.2)

Am 05.08.2017 11:25 nachm. schrieb "P R" :

(...)
I've installed Qubes 4 from USB with VT-d disabled which works but throws
an error in the end and which doesn't allow to start an AppVM:

Start failed: internal error: libxenlight failed to create new domain
'sys-firewall'

I have also tried to create a new Fedora 25 based AppVM (HVM and non-HVM)
and run into the same error.

I have enabled VT-d in the BIOS and rebooted, same error. I have
enabled/disabled iommu=igfx / no-igfx same problem.

Unfortunately it seems that I can't enable VT-d during Qubes installation
as the installer will halt with a black screen when VT-d is enabled.
See here for the hint regarding the Installation of Qubes 3.2 (?):
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/thinkpad-troubleshooting/

As I didn't have any trouble installing and running Qubes 3.2 on the X200
(with 8 GB RAM) I don't understand what is the problem with Qubes 4.
(...)

As I like to move forward I would like to know I the X200 can be used with
Qubes 4rc1 or if I need to get another machine (probably a X230 or T430).

Any feedback on this (X200 + Qubes 4.x = fail?)

Kind regards

- PhR

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[qubes-users] Re: Problem installing Qubes 4rc1 on Lenovo Thinkpad X200 - Installer hangs with VT-d enabled / without: libxenlight failed to create new domain (with/without iommo-tweak)

[Foppe de Haan]

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 8:41:04 AM UTC+2, PR wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I've asked some days ago if someone has been able get Qubes OS 4rc1 up and 
> running on a Lenovo Thinkpad X200 (which works fine under Qubes 3.2)
> 
> 
> Am 05.08.2017 11:25 nachm. schrieb "P R" :
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (...)
> I've installed Qubes 4 from USB with VT-d disabled which works but throws an 
> error in the end and which doesn't allow to start an AppVM:
> 
> 
> Start failed: internal error: libxenlight failed to create new domain 
> 'sys-firewall'
> 
> 
> 
> I have also tried to create a new Fedora 25 based AppVM (HVM and non-HVM) and 
> run into the same error.
> 
> 
> 
> I have enabled VT-d in the BIOS and rebooted, same error. I have 
> enabled/disabled iommu=igfx / no-igfx same problem.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately it seems that I can't enable VT-d during Qubes installation as 
> the installer will halt with a black screen when VT-d is enabled.
> See here for the hint regarding the Installation of Qubes 3.2 (?):
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/thinkpad-troubleshooting/
> 
> 
> 
> As I didn't have any trouble installing and running Qubes 3.2 on the X200 
> (with 8 GB RAM) I don't understand what is the problem with Qubes 4.
> (...)
> As I like to move forward I would like to know I the X200 can be used with 
> Qubes 4rc1 or if I need to get another machine (probably a X230 or T430).
> 
> 
> Any feedback on this (X200 + Qubes 4.x = fail?)
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> 
> - PhR

I don't know enough to answer your question, but do you get any useful 
additional information when you remove 'rhgb quiet' from the xen boot 
parameters (which I assume is there)?

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Re: [qubes-users] UEFI secureboot issue

[wvervoorn]

On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:15:26 AM UTC+2, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:50 PM, cooloutac  wrote:
> > Qubes doesn't support secure boot unfortunately.  I think its batshit crazy 
> > to consider a pc even reasonably secure without it.
> 
> Secure boot in reality is quite far from the boot chain panacea its
> name may suggest.
> 
> If you haven't already, I'd suggest reading Joanna's "Intel x86
> considered harmful" paper [1] and checking out Trammell Hudson's Heads
> project [2].
> 
> FWIW, the systems I currently believe have the most secure boot chains
> do not involve UEFI at all.
> 
> Regards,
> Jean-Philippe
> 
> [1]: https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf
> [2]: http://osresearch.net/

Hello,

I do understand using secureboot is not the perfect way but it's not always 
possible to achieve this.

What we have is a custom bios that implements a nailed down version of 
secureboot where we control the secure boot databases, So that should reduce 
the risk of a 3rd party allowing software that we don't want to.

All that needs to be done from Qubes side to accomodate this is to make sure 
the efi executable are signed and the make sure the ceriticate for the public 
key is available. Once this is done we can add this to our database and we can 
leave secureboot enable when we use Qubes.

So basically my question to the Qubes maintainers is if they will be supporting 
this scenario at any point in time. If not we are forced to create another 
scenario.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,

Wim Vervoorn

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Re: [qubes-users] Problem installing Qubes on Lenovo Thinkpad T450s

[hugoncosta]

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:45:09 UTC+1, Janik Besendorf  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried 4.0 today and that worked. But I dont think that I want to use
> the RC on my productive system.
> I attached my UEFI settings in the mail.
> 
> 
> 
> On 08.08.2017 09:24, Zrubi wrote:
> > On 08/07/2017 06:16 PM, Janik Besendorf wrote:
> > > Hi,
> >
> > > I have a T450s and followed the instructions here
> > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/thinkpad-troubleshooting/ for the
> > > UEFI options but when I select "Install Qubes" in the bootmanager
> > > the installer start loading image files but then reboots the
> > > laptop.
> >
> > > A friend of my once had the same problem with a T450 and told me
> > > that he needed an older kernel in order to install Qubes. Does
> > > anyone know more about that?
> >
> > I have a T450 and I can install and run every Qubes OS release.
> > Including the latest 4.0-rc1.
> >
> > All you have to do is disable UEFI boot, and set "legacy boot only" in
> > BIOS.
> >
> >

We have similar BIOS, so check under Config or Security for "Virtualization". 
You'll have to turn it off. After that, you should be able to install Qubes. If 
you need an HVM (windows, for example), you'll need to turn Virtualization back 
on.

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[qubes-users] Re: Upgrading fedora 23 to 25 Problem

[frkla1234]

I checked now the folder where the key should be. I have only 
"RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-24-x86_64" and not that one for fedora 25. Maybe this 
causes the problem. So I try now to install first the fedora 24 version and 
than the upgrade at 25.

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[qubes-users] Re: 4.0 rc1 won't boot on T430 Thinkpad

[hugoncosta]

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 04:11:02 UTC+1, rae...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Installed rc1 on a T430 Thinkpad (Type 2347-DV7) successfully.  System will 
> not successfully boot into Qubes however:
> 
> Loading Xen 4.8.1.config...
> error: no multiboot header found.
> Loading Linux 4.9.35.19.pvops.qubes.x86_64...
> error: you need to load the kernel first.
> Loading initial ramdisk...
> error: you need to load the kernel first.

In the bootloader try to use a differnet kernel (when you get there, advanced 
options, Xen and choose another kernel)

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[qubes-users] Re: Upgrading fedora 23 to 25 Problem

[hugoncosta]

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:28:41 UTC+1, frkl...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I checked now the folder where the key should be. I have only 
> "RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-24-x86_64" and not that one for fedora 25. Maybe this 
> causes the problem. So I try now to install first the fedora 24 version and 
> than the upgrade at 25.

You shouldn't need to do that. I did the 23-25 update today, but I didn't 
follow the link you posted. I used this one:  sudo qubes-dom0-update 
qubes-template-fedora-25  and then went on from the step number 6. If you don't 
have a lot of configs on the template like me, this should work (I'm on RC3.2)

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 RC 1 doesn't boot

[hugoncosta]

On Friday, 4 August 2017 02:35:42 UTC+1, cbushell.obelix...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi qubes-users,
> 
> I recently downloaded the qubes iso and burned it to dvd. (Cause I don't have 
> a spare usb.)
> 
> When I boot from it, the menu options to media check or install just come 
> back with the menu again.
> 
> Pressing e results in the following for the second 'Install' option:
> 
> setparams 'Install Qubes R4-rc1'
> 
> chainloader /EFI/BOOT/xen.efi
> 
> 
> Should this be any different? If so, how so?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig.

Do you have UEFI on? You'll need to boot using ACHI/Legacy mode. 

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[qubes-users] Windows 7 problems (R3.2)

[hugoncosta]

Hey,

Installed everything, had to use this method 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488, and now it "works". 

If I start the VM in Seemless GUI, it goes on but doesn't open any application 
(with and without debug mode on). 
If I start the VM without Seemless GUI, it only goes on with debug mode on, 
otherwise it'll follow the above pattern.

Also, 2nd problem, I've installed MS Office, I've copied the shortcuts to the 
"All Programs" folder and I'm unable to find them in the "Applications" tab in 
the VM config. Is there anything I can do? Also, other installed programmes 
don't appear on the list, it's not just Office.

Thanks for your time!

Hugo

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Re: [qubes-users] Is it really hard to autogenerate apropos data for all qubes utils ?

[Oleg Artemiev]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Unman  wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 03:32:54AM -0400, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote:
>> Unman is correct.
>>
>> Additionally, mandb index generation may be of lesser quality because
>> our man pages are not actual man pages, but rather lifted from
>> reStructuredText via pandoc, which generate raw *roff formatting
>> macros rather than semantic mdoc (or even man(7)) ones. This is
>> because reStructuredText inherently lacks such semantics, and pandoc
>> does not attempt to heuristically assign any.
>>
>> Example:
>> NAME
>> 
>> qvm-block - list/set VM PCI devices.
>>
>> Turns into:
>> .TH "qvm\-block" "" "" "" ""
>> .SH NAME
>> .PP
>> qvm\-block \- list/set VM PCI devices.
>>
>> Instead of:
>> .Sh NAME
>> .Nm qvm-block
>> .Nd list/set VM PCI devices
>
> Although, of course, apropos seems to work perfectly with that utility as 
> well.
Then this looks like I've missed some required steps in configuring my
Qubes 3.2 system.
I've got that apropos just after clean install. I've changed laptop a
month ago and have the
same missing apropos db.. Guess I've to upgrade something.
What steps are required to get this working by default?
Yes I can start man-db --no-purge , but why this is omitted by default?
BTW: qmemman - nothing in apropos even after man-db --no-purge .

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[qubes-users] Re: Upgrading fedora 23 to 25 Problem

[frkla1234]

Hi!

Thx for the answer!

I already installed fedora 24 and I upgraded than to 25. It worked :-)

But your way sounds more efficient ;-)

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[qubes-users] Problems with the command sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-24/ 23

[frkla1234]

Hi!

I typed into the dom0 terminal:

sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-24

and it doesn`t worked. 

I have the same problem for the template 23.

Does anyone knows what could be the problem?



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[qubes-users] Re: Upgrading fedora 23 to 25 Problem

[Hugo Costa]

Good to know! My way may be a bit more efficient than installing 24 and
then 25, but it's important to remember that it'll erase the configs you
may have had on it.

On 10 August 2017 at 21:24,  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Thx for the answer!
>
> I already installed fedora 24 and I upgraded than to 25. It worked :-)
>
> But your way sounds more efficient ;-)




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[qubes-users] During upgrading to fedora 25 I saw some warnings

[frkla1234]

Hi everyone!

During the upgrading from fedora 24 to 25 I had some warings.

1) The terminal said:

Warning link /etc/pki/ca-trust/extracted/javacacerts where file 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-opendjdk-1.8.0.141-1.b16fc24.x86_64/jre/lib/security/cacertsexpected!

Is there anything to be worried?

2) The second it`s a little bit weird:
Udisks2.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units

Is that a sign that my system was compromised?

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Re: [qubes-users] Win 7, Qubes 3.2, qubes-windows-tools 3.2.2-3 struggles

[Daniel Nelson]

Did you ever make additional progress on your problems with QWT?  I encountered 
all the same issues you did, and the one I've not been able to solve is always 
having to run my Win7 apps in debug mode, thus losing the possibility of lovely 
seamless integration.

I tried what you suggested about backing out the latest QWT and installing the 
previous version.  I tried it first with simply uninstalling from my VM, with 
quirky results, so I went ahead and created a fresh VM.   This particular 
behavior continues, though, also with the GUI agent outdated protocol error on 
exit, and usually with two Win7 related QubesDB files that need to be manually 
deleted prior to relaunching as well.

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[qubes-users] How to create a minimal template of Debian and Fedora on Qubes 4.0-rc1

[Dominique St-Pierre Boucher]

Good morning,

I was able to install Qubes 4.0-rc1. I am happy with the result so far.

I would like to be able to create a minimal template for Debian and Fedora. Is 
there an how-to or some documentation?

Also, is there a way to trim the template on this version?

Thanks

Dominique

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[qubes-users] Upgrading fedora 23 to 25 Problem

[frkla1234]

Hi,

i installed now Qubes Os 3.2 and I began to upgrade now to fedora 25. I 
followed the steps at the qubes os homepage ( 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-24-to-25/ ).

At step 3 I became following message after downloading the packages:

Total 1.3 GB
warning: 
/var/cache/dnf/fedora-310.../packages/python2-pygpgme-0.3-18.fc25.x86_64.rpm: 
Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID fdb19c98:NOKEY
Curl error (37): Couldn't read a file:// file for 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-Key-fedora-25-x86_64 [Couldn't open file 
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-25-x86_64]
The download packages were saved in cache until the next succesful transaction.
You can remove chached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'

I don't know how to continue. This warning is not at the qubes homepage 
explained.

I`m not good in computer things and my English is not the best one, so please 
write clear :-)

Thanks!

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[qubes-users] Re: Problem installing Qubes 4rc1 on Lenovo Thinkpad X200 - Installer hangs with VT-d enabled / without: libxenlight failed to create new domain (with/without iommo-tweak)

[hugoncosta]

On Saturday, 5 August 2017 22:25:30 UTC+1, PR  wrote:
> I've installed Qubes 4 from USB with VT-d disabled which works but throws an 
> error in the end and which doesn't allow to start an AppVM:

I have a Yoga S1 and I had the same problem. I was only able to install Qubes 
R3.2, also without Virtualization. After installing it, I'm able to use it 
though. I've already posted about this here: 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3001

Meanwhile, I'd do what I did - stick to R3.2

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

[Tao Effect]

Any update on this?

I just encountered a similar problem:

- Qubes 3.2 indicated there was an update for dom0
- I updated via the graphical utility, installed kernel 
4.9.35-19.pvops.qubes.x86_64
- Rebooted

Upon reboot, `uname -a` indicates I'm still running the old kernel.

So I tried manually running: sudo qubes-dom0-update 
--enablerepo=qubes-dom0-unstable kernel kernel-qubes-vm --best --allowerasing

It downloaded stuff (for some reason from "Fedora 23" repo even though I 
thought I'd updated to Fedora 25? Or is that separate - just for TemplateVM?) 
and then said, among other things:

"Package kernel-qubes-vm-1000:4.9.35-19.pvops.qubes.x86_64 is already 
installed, skipping"


Makes no sense! What do I do?

Like this fellow below, I do not appear to have any GRUB related things on my 
system being used.

Is there a way to force the machine to switch to using GRUB? Perhaps some BIOS 
option?

This is the machine I'm using: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/0JTfsfPVl9w 


Thanks for any help!

- Greg

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> On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:15 PM, hft.huu...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> --UPDATE--
> So, I did try copying the new kernel to my /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/ directory and 
> edited the xen.cfg file. It broke my system. I got:
> [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device 
> [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Cryptography Setup for 
> [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Encrypted Volumes.
> But luckily I could recover my system by editing xen.cfg back to original by 
> using rescue usb.
> 
> I tried to reinstall grub by: sudo grub2-install
> "grub2-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. 
> Please specify --target or --directory"
> Is this a normal error while in UEFI mode? Or is there something not right 
> with my system?
> 
> I am to lazy to reinstall my system right now to see if the encrypted /boot 
> directory is the problem.
> 
> I'll keep this post updated whenever I decide to reinstall Qubes.
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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

[Tao Effect]

Something else I just noticed:

/boot contains initramfs-4.9.35-19.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img

BUT /boot/eft/EFI/qubes does not!

Both /boot and /boot/efi/EFI/qubes contain 
"initramfs-4.8.12-12.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img", and the two files differ when 
doing a diff on them.

The /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg file does not have an entry for the 4.9 kernel, 
but it does have 2 entries for 4.4.14 and 1 entry for 4.8.

There does not appear to be any difference between the boot arguments for the 3 
entries other than the version numbers of the kernels (that I can spot with my 
eyes alone).

I'm scared of modifying the xen.cfg file for 2 reasons:

1. The fact that the .img files for 4.8 kernels in /boot and 
/boot/efi/EFI/qubes are different means that I don't know what that difference 
is, and I can't just copy the 4.9 kernel from /boot into the other directory.

2. The fellow below tried modifying his xen.cfg file manually and broke his 
machine. I would like to avoid that.

Any help greatly appreciated!

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> On Aug 10, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Tao Effect  > wrote:
> 
> Any update on this?
> 
> I just encountered a similar problem:
> 
> - Qubes 3.2 indicated there was an update for dom0
> - I updated via the graphical utility, installed kernel 
> 4.9.35-19.pvops.qubes.x86_64
> - Rebooted
> 
> Upon reboot, `uname -a` indicates I'm still running the old kernel.
> 
> So I tried manually running: sudo qubes-dom0-update 
> --enablerepo=qubes-dom0-unstable kernel kernel-qubes-vm --best --allowerasing
> 
> It downloaded stuff (for some reason from "Fedora 23" repo even though I 
> thought I'd updated to Fedora 25? Or is that separate - just for TemplateVM?) 
> and then said, among other things:
> 
> "Package kernel-qubes-vm-1000:4.9.35-19.pvops.qubes.x86_64 is already 
> installed, skipping"
> 
> 
> Makes no sense! What do I do?
> 
> Like this fellow below, I do not appear to have any GRUB related things on my 
> system being used.
> 
> Is there a way to force the machine to switch to using GRUB? Perhaps some 
> BIOS option?
> 
> This is the machine I'm using: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/0JTfsfPVl9w 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> - Greg
> 
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>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:15 PM, hft.huu...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> --UPDATE--
>> So, I did try copying the new kernel to my /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/ directory 
>> and edited the xen.cfg file. It broke my system. I got:
>> [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device 
>> [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Cryptography Setup for 
>> [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Encrypted Volumes.
>> But luckily I could recover my system by editing xen.cfg back to original by 
>> using rescue usb.
>> 
>> I tried to reinstall grub by: sudo grub2-install
>> "grub2-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. 
>> Please specify --target or --directory"
>> Is this a normal error while in UEFI mode? Or is there something not right 
>> with my system?
>> 
>> I am to lazy to reinstall my system right now to see if the encrypted /boot 
>> directory is the problem. 
>> 
>> I'll keep this post updated whenever I decide to reinstall Qubes.
>> 
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