[RBW] Re: Riding Mount Laguna

2010-03-30 Thread happyriding
On Mar 29, 7:15 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Walton, with 11-year-old Moriah Swan Those pictures of Moriah are hilarious! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: Orange-a-Bomba build is well underway

2010-03-30 Thread happyriding
Thanks. I really liked the descriptions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread MichaelH
Given that it is Spring, at least in most of the country, and rainy, I would especially point to this sentence, near the end of the post. In really wet conditions, you should try to avoid trails, anyway, because riding a bike (or a horse, or hiking) on muddy trails damages them more. As a land

RE: [RBW] Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Frederick, Steve
Good read and I enjoy underbiking once in a while, and love riding dirt roads on one of my versatile Riv/Grant bikes. But I prefer a suspended bike for riding real, trails just because I can't take the pounding. I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his

Re: [RBW] WTB - Rivendell All-Rounder 54-57TT

2010-03-30 Thread Sean Whelan
Great Bleriot. I wish I could part with $2000.00. I NEED a bike with SS Couplers. Sean --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Christopher Paul zdree...@gmail.com wrote: From: Christopher Paul zdree...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] WTB - Rivendell All-Rounder 54-57TT To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date:

Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale: 650b wheelset

2010-03-30 Thread Ray Shine
Thanks for the offer, Andrew, but I have decided to hold up a bit. I think it will be better to decide which frame set I want, then build from there. Glad you like the Jitensha bars. Ride safe! Ray Shine From: Andrew andrewkib...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread MKahrl
On Mar 30, 12:39 am, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, YMMV; don't forget those skills I bragged about in my original article on the subject, way back in 1993! http://www.xo-1.org/2007/09/mountain-bikes-who-needs-them.html - Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA What

Re: [RBW] Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Dustin Sharp
I think I just enjoy all kinds of riding off road. When I ride with cross tires and drop bars, I really enjoy myself, even if I get a bit beat up. I'm happy folks like Grant Petersen and Chris Kostman are trying to popularize this type of riding as it's a lot of fun and most bikes can do way more

Re: [RBW] Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Dan Abelson
I think that's the first I have ever seen Grant advocate for skinnier tires. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:47 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: That was a great posting. I hope he keeps it up (some have a tendency to disappear). We should all wear coonskin

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Curious, and I realize that Chris, back then, was exaggerating to make a point: but question to y'all: at what point do y'all draw the line? I mean this in two ways: 1. Where do *you* draw the line between a road bike and a mountain bike? What would an Atlantis be? A Sam Hill? Suspension? Drop

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Jon Grant
I didn¹t read ³fat tires for the road and skinny tire for the dirt.² Rather, I got the impression of a message consistent with past writings: You can be happy riding fatter tire on pavement and skinnier tires off-road ‹ that is, same tires for most all conditions. Then you don¹t need two

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread rswat...@me.com
On Mar 30, 2010, at 8:04, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Curious, and I realize that Chris, back then, was exaggerating to make a point: but question to y'all: at what point do y'all draw the line? I mean this in two ways: 1. Where do *you* draw the line between a road bike and

[RBW] silver shifters

2010-03-30 Thread jandrews_nyc
Hello Does anyone have an exploded drawing of the silver shifters... I have it all taken apart and want to make sure all the pieces are going back in correctly. Tiny springs kind of freak me out. Thank you! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Mike
A few years back, right before I moved to Portland, I was at a friend's house and saw his new cross bike with cranked stays which he had set up with flat bars, WTB 700x44 Mutano Raptors. The bike (made by Rick Hunter in SC) seemed so perfect for riding in the SF Bay Area. The perfect machine for

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:33 AM, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: 2. And, more important, where -- what terrain and conditions -- do you, personally, (y'all) leave the sub 28 mm tire'd, drop bar'd bike at home and take out the other one? You couldn't pay me to ride sub 28mm tires!

[RBW] Re: silver shifters

2010-03-30 Thread Mike
I'd email or call Rivendell. On Mar 30, 7:37 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Does anyone have an exploded drawing of the silver shifters... I have it all taken apart and want to make sure all the pieces are going back in correctly. Tiny springs kind of freak me out.

Re: [RBW] Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Anne Paulson
Riv World Headquarters isn't in Marin County, birthplace of mountain biking. It's over in Walnut Creek, which is in Contra Costa County, on the other side of the Bay. Different jurisdiction, different mountains, different trails. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Frederick, Steve

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
Most of the time, I like to use as little technology as possible, but important factors I consider are: - Am I meeting a bunch of mountain bikers for some hard charging? If so, I usually take my Ritchey NiTi mtn bike (the first mtn bike I've ever owned with a suspension fork, and I got it a year

[RBW] Re: my roadeo

2010-03-30 Thread Adam DeFayette
Agreed re: downhills. Also, the bike corners like no other bike I've ridden. I've never taken corners this sharp, and it's a lot of fun. On Mar 29, 11:49 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: i have to apologize for not sending pictures, but i ordered a new camera and i should getting

[RBW] Re: silver shifters

2010-03-30 Thread jandrews_nyc
figured it out.. can't believe it... On Mar 30, 10:51 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I'd email or call Rivendell. On Mar 30, 7:37 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Does anyone have an exploded drawing of the silver shifters... I have it all taken apart

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread JoelMatthews
1. Where do *you* draw the line between a road bike and a mountain bike? Seems to me no matter how good the brazing, a Masi, DeRosa or the like is not going to be competent off road, just as a full suspension - and even a long front suspension - is a real dog on the road. Otherwise, any decent

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
Bikes aren't competent - riders are! Also, my suspension fork has a lock-out: with a simple twist, I can lock it out and eliminate the pogo effect when riding on pavement or hard-packed trails. Not that I ride my mountain bike more than a few times a year, but I do appreciate that feature. -

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Michael_S
I guess I am more in Dustin's camp, while my favorite ride is a bike with 32-40mm tires because I can do all roads and most dirt, true MTB's have their place. Having 29er' 2.2 tires just opens up terrrain that the skinnier tires don't handle as well. Sandy and rocky terrrain require more

RE: [RBW] Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Frederick, Steve
Ah! Thanks for the geographical clarification! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Anne Paulson Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:00 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Grant's

Re: [RBW] Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on trails, going all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking. The less

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread JoelMatthews
Bikes aren't competent - riders are! True enough. But I imagine even the best rider would get annoyed with the twitchy ride of a steep head tube/short chain even on a gravel road. I do anyway. Front suspension lock outs are a swell feature if you absolutely gotta have suspension in some

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Dustin Sharp
I spent about 4 years where my only bike was a Gunnar crosshairs, and I made a point of proving that I could ride just about any ³mountain bike² trail on it. It was great, and I learned a lot about bike handling. I remember getting crazy stares high up in the Rockies when groups of mountain bikers

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Esteban
I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun, provocative, and useful. Rough riding underbiking is where its at. Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society riders down here. It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or 35s out on

[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Pre-aged vs. standard

2010-03-30 Thread NickBull
I have two pre-aged saddles, both are Champion Flyer's, one is an S model. Both saddles have around 4000 to 5000 miles on them with no apparent ill-effect. They are both tied in the middle to keep the middle from sagging too much, which makes a person tend to slide forward. On Mar 29, 6:02 pm,

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Esteban
I just caught this: http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC01285.html and http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/ Kindred spirits. So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner? Or post pics if you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
I think an expansion of Grant's posting would be to apply it to ALL riding. Everything he said about demeanor and appearance applies to whenever I'm on a bike. I try to look normal when I ride, not just because it's more comfortable, but because maybe Joe-sixpack-just downsized-you betcha' in the

[RBW] Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread Christopher Paul
Greetings 2 all, Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also, is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle? any thoughts on this will be appreciated! Chris -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If the SH would take tires 20 mm fatter than 40, I'd build it up like this in a minute -- drops, though. A low bb drop barr'd, light-tubed (relative to most mtbs) off road bike would indeed be a blast. Question: does riding full suspension on the road, with riser bars (and against a headwind)

[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Pre-aged vs. standard

2010-03-30 Thread William
I have two B-17 standards. One in honey and one in black. They are the only two Brooks saddles I have ever owned. The honey one I bought in December for my Hillborne. The black one I just put on my new Bombadil. Both of them cam our of the box, off of the card and straight on to my bike.

Re: [RBW] Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'm no frame builder, but my own inclination would be to keep drills very far away from my front fork. I'm getting rack braze ons to fork a frame here, locally, in Albuquerque, and the builder charges about $25 per fitting, ie $50 for a pair, paint not included. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM,

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Michael_S
My Hillborne is pretty close to Chris's all rounder with slightly smaller 700x40 knobbies. I did start with Noodle drop bars but after a particularly steep and long dirt downhill this past Sunday I am starting to think about a different handlebar. Maybe a WTB dirt drop ( with black ano removed! )

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Esteban
Here's Mike's monstercross (forgive me) Hillborne all-rounder bomber: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4449447882/sizes/l/ Pretty awesome! Mike - have you thought of adding 'cross levers? They might do the trick nicely. I'd prefer an Hillborne built up this way to a Hunqa. But that's

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Dustin Sharp
Wow! That bike really pops off the screen. Nice! From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post. Here's Mike's

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Esteban
Yea! I'm looking at my Rawland here in the office, thinking I have all the parts for a trail-bred Hillborne except wheels. Indeed, the lower tt makes a Hillborne a great candidate for trails. That's the one unmentioned aspect in all this underbiking business -- its nice to have some space

Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Pre-aged vs. standard

2010-03-30 Thread Jon Grant
In my experience of a dozen or so, the black Brooks saddles have been harder than the honey ones ‹ sometimes objectionably so. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post (Rough Riding in Endurance News)

2010-03-30 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
Speaking of spreading this gospel, my latest article, Any Bike, Anywhere: The Rough Rider's Way of Life is published in the current (March, #68) issue of Endurance News, a magazine published by Hammer Nutrition. It's mailed to all of Hammer's current customers, but also published online. You can

Re: [RBW] Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread Horace
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Christopher Paul zdree...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings 2 all, Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also, is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle? Don't drill the

Re: [RBW] Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/30/10 8:46 AM, Christopher Paul at zdree...@gmail.com wrote: Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also, is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle? any thoughts on this will be appreciated! It

[RBW] Serious T:T Factor

2010-03-30 Thread jose
I decided to try out the new 2.25 Schwalbe Marathon Extremes on my 56 Atlantis: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4476856934/ They roll faster than I expected on the road and quite nimble off- road, but that may be the adrenaline shot of a new bike talking. Big fun, nonetheless. --

[RBW] I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread William
I finished the build late last night. The last thing to do was the shifters. I taped and shellacked the bars before putting the barcons in, and twined the housing to the drops externally. Now I can pull the shifters, cables and housing without disrupting the tape job. First time for me to do

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
This isn't the best picture of them, but I just put on some Origin8 Space bars. Low rise bars with a nice sweep back. They are wonderfully comfortable so far, although I haven't gone for an extended ride yet. They're pretty similar to OnOne Mary bars. Made in China. Available at your LBS

[RBW] Re: Serious T:T Factor

2010-03-30 Thread William
Those tires are bananas! More up closes, please. I wanna see your clearances. Nicely done. On Mar 30, 10:39 am, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: I decided to try out the new 2.25 Schwalbe Marathon Extremes on my 56 Atlantis: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4476856934/ They

[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Pre-aged vs. standard

2010-03-30 Thread William
Hmmm...I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the perspective. On Mar 30, 10:34 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: In my experience of a dozen or so, the black Brooks saddles have been harder than the honey ones ‹ sometimes objectionably so. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration +

RE: [RBW] I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread Frederick, Steve
I don't mind the red tires a bit, and the brakes are pretty cool, actually. I'm really glad you got rid of the black seatpost, though...B-) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of William Sent: Tuesday,

[RBW] Re: I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread William
Black seatpost!?!? That piece of garbage was only for clamping in the workstand. LOL. The thought! A black seatpost.hah! On Mar 30, 11:34 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I don't mind the red tires a bit, and the brakes are pretty cool, actually.   I'm really glad

[RBW] WTB - 59 - 61cm MB-3 or Similar

2010-03-30 Thread Marty
I could do with the frameset alone if that helps. I think the MB-3 stopped at 59. Anyone have a 61cm All Rounder by chance? Essentially looking for the tallest lugged frame 26 wheeled bike I can find for a trailer-pulling project. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

RE: [RBW] Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Frederick, Steve
Thanks for the perspective, Jim. I've always read about the access troubles in Marin--guess you shouldn't believer everything you read, eh? Controversy sells more magazines and advocacy pitches, I guess... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Christopher Paul zdree...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings 2 all, Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also, is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle? any thoughts on this

[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Pre-aged vs. standard

2010-03-30 Thread Phil Bickford
I've had the same experience with the honey / black. Fortunately the last black B-17 I acquired had been pre-aged by a previous owner. :) My honey saddle is like heaven since new. (after the ~10th ride) I've a green B-17 (ti) that I've had to struggle to break in. I'd say the stiffness was

[RBW] Re: Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread William
I haven't done the analysis specifically, but I have done somewhat similar stress analysis. That experience would lead me to speculate that the nicer brazed in ones (the ones with a nice large footprint and deep threads) would make the hole as strong or stronger than the undrilled tube. That's

[RBW] Re: I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread Mike
William, congrats on the bike, it looks great. Give us some more updates with impressions on how it handles off road. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread William
Oh, now you want me to RIDE it? I was gonna start pulling together my next build! Just kidding (a little). I will definitely be underriding with it soon. I might even do some videos On Mar 30, 1:45 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: William, congrats on the bike, it looks great. Give us some

[RBW] Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread William
The Atlantis' I assume are still selling out slowly, but the Atlantis is still promoted fairly prominently on the front page of rivbike.com. My wife needs a bike, and I have been thinking about a Betty or maybe an Atlantis. I'm not really all that close to being able to afford it, so I've been

[RBW] Re: Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread doug peterson
William: No, you weren't crazy to get that impression. There was something a while back (maybe on the Atlantis page, maybe a knothole post, not sure) about getting the last batch of Toyo built Atlantis'. There was a vague mention of having them made elsewhere, maybe Taiwan but it was still

[RBW] Re: Adding grommet holes to steel bikes question

2010-03-30 Thread doug peterson
Chris: Second Patricks' comment re: drills. I asked a frame builder about adding mid fork low rider mounts to my Atlantis. I wanted the thru the fork tubes like they do now. He wouldn't do it but said adding regular rack fittings to either the front or the back of the fork was fine. That's

[RBW] Re: Bonkers

2010-03-30 Thread doug peterson
Well, it's still for sale. I like the bit about part of a 20 year collection we're selling. But wait! There's more! Let's see, $2k for nice old classic or the better part of a new Hunq? Hdifferent markets, I suppose. dougP On Mar 29, 8:58 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Bonkers

2010-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
If it goes for $3K or so, and to someone who has always wanted one and now has the money to buy it, *and will ride it*, hey, nothing wrong with that. What a great bike out of the box to ride everywhere! But if it's some collector who is going to put it in the Fancy Rare Bicycle Room which

Re: [RBW] Re: Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
Don't forget the Hillborne. You have lots of options... :-) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:00 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: William: No, you weren't crazy to get that impression. There was something a while back (maybe on the Atlantis page, maybe a knothole post, not sure) about

[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread Michael_S
I have some flat bars on the 29er... I think with a 9d sweep. They are the only choice with hydraulic disc brakes. I have not tried the Mustache bars yet so I don't know how they would be. I prefer drop bars in most cases and would put them on the 29er if they would work with hydraulics, but I

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
I'm 100% in the same boat as you. My 29er came w/ hydraulic discs, so I'm kinda' locked into some sort of a straight bar. Marys, Space or Misfit Fubar are all good options. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: I have some flat bars on the 29er... I think

Re: [RBW] Re: Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Mark told me that the H is not as stout as the A, but, for $1K frame + fork, that's what I'd choose unless I wanted to run tires fatter than 40 mm wif fenders, in which case I'd look closely at the Hunquapilar. Hell, that is what I *did* choose! On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:41 PM, cyclotourist

Re: [RBW] Re: Bonkers

2010-03-30 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: If it goes for $3K or so, and to someone who has always wanted one and now has the money to buy it, *and will ride it*, hey, nothing wrong with that. What a great bike out of the box to ride everywhere! But if it's

[RBW] Re: Serious T:T Factor

2010-03-30 Thread jose
The clearance is not bad, with even enough room for fenders. I uploaded some pics with clearance closeup's here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/sets/72157623736280612/ On Mar 30, 1:28 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Those tires are bananas!  More up closes, please.  I

[RBW] Re: I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread EricP
Nah. Not at all garish. Elegant, actually compared to some of the bikes I and my wife have ridden. The tires actually remind me of the old Schwinn Sidewinders. If'n remember correctly, those were available in red. Also don't consider it an underbike except fer the fact many trails have been

[RBW] Re: Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread Frankwurst
If it's Waterford built it'll be as good as it gets IMO. It's just a matter of deciding what your wife wants. I once talked to Matthew at Kogswell and he said that the Atlantis was one of the most thought out and best designed bicycles ever built and I'd have to agree. Then again that's a matter

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: I have some flat bars on the 29er... I think with a 9d sweep. They are the only choice with hydraulic disc brakes. I have not tried the Mustache bars yet so I don't know how they would be. I prefer drop bars in most

Re: [RBW] Re: Bonkers

2010-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Jason Hartman rjasonhart...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: If it goes for $3K or so, and to someone who has always wanted one and now has the money to buy it, *and will ride it*, hey, nothing wrong

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

2010-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
Correct. Full hydraulic systems use proprietary levers, so you're stuck w/ whatcha' got. Mechanical discs are a different story. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: I have some

[RBW] Re: Serious T:T Factor

2010-03-30 Thread Michael_S
man those are some burly lookin' tires... looks perfect on the Atlantis! I may get some of the 40's for my Hillborne when the Smart Sam's wear out. ~Mike~ On Mar 30, 12:48 pm, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: The clearance is not bad, with even enough room for fenders. I uploaded some pics

Re: [RBW] Re: I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread Rene Sterental
A color blind rider nightmare!!! Just kidding! I think heads will turn when you pass, you just won't know if it's the bike or the color scheme! I like your boldness. Welcome to the Bombadil club!!! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: I finished the build of my Orange Bombadil

2010-03-30 Thread rcnute
Now if we can just get you to use a silver rack...:) It looks great! Ryan On Mar 30, 11:39 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Black seatpost!?!?  That piece of garbage was only for clamping in the workstand.  LOL.  The thought!  A black seatpost.hah! On Mar 30, 11:34 am, Frederick,

Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot .. how/if to transform.

2010-03-30 Thread andrew hill
i'm still puzzling over this Bleriot .. wondering if a dirt drop stem will calm the twitchy front end down, versus the Technomic dlxe that is on there now, while keeping the noodle bars. maybe improve the handling with a closer bar position a bit? am i mad to think so? :) best, andrew --

[RBW] Re: Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread doug peterson
For David: Atlantis - accept no substitutions! Hey, I don't agonize over which bike to bring! For William: +1 on the above thought about buying a Riv not being disappointed. It seems we have lively discussions about which Riv is better for a given application but can anyone recall anything

[RBW] Re: Bleriot .. how/if to transform.

2010-03-30 Thread rcnute
Do you have a picture of your existing set-up? Ryan On Mar 30, 7:37 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: i'm still puzzling over this Bleriot ..  wondering if a dirt drop stem will calm the twitchy front end down, versus the Technomic dlxe that is on there now, while keeping the

[RBW] Re: Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread William
And the 48cm Hunqa, for that matter. There are plenty of choices, all good. On Mar 30, 4:41 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget the Hillborne.  You have lots of options... :-) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:00 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: William:

[RBW] front bag with bar-end shifters?

2010-03-30 Thread LF
I'm upgrading a 61cm Riv Custom from 9-speed brifters to 7-speed friction shifting. Plan to set it up with Nitto mini front rack, decaleur, Ostrich handlebar bag. I notice many bike with similar set- ups use downtube shifters. I'm considering bar-end shifters, and wondering ... will the front

Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot .. how/if to transform.

2010-03-30 Thread andrew hill
yeah - some linkage: http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1925.jpg http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1926.jpg -a On Mar 30, 2010, at 8:01 PM, rcnute wrote: Do you have a picture of your existing set-up? Ryan On Mar 30, 7:37 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: i'm still

[RBW] Rough Riding in Adventure Cyclist; RR Rally roster and bikes

2010-03-30 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
More spreading of the gospel: For those of you who aren't members of the Adventure Cycling Association (some of us remember them as Bikecentennial), I'm pleased to report that they featured rough riding, and the Rough Riders Rally in particular, in their February issue. You can read a scan of it

[RBW] Re: Bleriot .. how/if to transform.

2010-03-30 Thread Aaron Thomas
This may run contrary to the general approach adopted by many on this list, but I'd recommend lowering the bars a lot -- so that they're level to the saddle height or perhaps even just below. The front end of my Bleriot felt a little floppy when I had the bars well above saddle height. When I

[RBW] Re: front bag with bar-end shifters?

2010-03-30 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
Larry: Lots of people run bar-ends with a handlebar bag. You'll be able to smoothly route the housings, one way or another: either all the way to the stem under the tape, or just straight out from the tape about 6 ahead of the shifters. If the latter, usually you can route the housings

[RBW] Re: front bag with bar-end shifters?

2010-03-30 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
PS As a follow-up, you may want to consider having your shifter cables cross along the down tube. In other words, the rear derailleur housing would loop from the shifter over to the left side of the down tube, and vice-versa. This makes a cleaner arc in many cases. I often set up bar-ends with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot .. how/if to transform.

2010-03-30 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Pretty much what I was thinking as well. Even if it calls for a couple cms shorter stem to keep the reach similar, try lowering the bars a fair amount and see how it feels. Seems to me like that high stem is rotating everything back, which lightens up the front end and presumably makes it more

[RBW] Re: Bleriot .. how/if to transform.

2010-03-30 Thread rcnute
I third Aaron and Doug. Ryan On Mar 30, 9:05 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty much what I was thinking as well.  Even if it calls for a couple cms shorter stem to keep the reach similar, try lowering the bars a fair amount and see how it feels.  Seems to me like that high

Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot .. how/if to transform.

2010-03-30 Thread tarik saleh
yeah, what they said. Lower the bars and see if that helps. If you need the bars that high to be comfy, I think wiide is the way to go, probably some sort of really wide flat or swept bars. It looks like you have some wide drop bars on there already, but some of the flared drops are really

[RBW] Re: So Beth, how about a Betty Foy ride report?

2010-03-30 Thread Beth
Yes--still like butter. I was wondering for how many days would I be experiencing sore sitbones from the new B-17S. That would be 3! That's it?! Ok! Other than that,(and that's not a Riv thing anyway) the bike rides real well. The only other exception being that I suspect something is going on

[RBW] Re: front bag with bar-end shifters?

2010-03-30 Thread Mike
Larry, I use a Berthoud HB bag supported by a Mark's rack on my Hilsen with BE shifters and it works fine. You might want to leave the cables and housing a bit a tad longer to accommodate the bag. Not sure if this helps but take a gander:

[RBW] Re: Something I didn't know about the Atlantis

2010-03-30 Thread Ian Dickson
William, if your wife needs a 47 Atlantis, chances are that the smallest Hillborne won't fit her. I had that conversation with Keven once when I was shopping for a bike for my wife( she's 5'2, with a 73cm pbh). In the end, I got her a 46cm LHT (she was more comfortable with that price range,