Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Brian Hanson
Jan and Grant remind me of old Outdoor Life writers like Jack O'Connor who brought romance and excitement to their sport (hunting). They promote the sport they love through their ideas and designs, but both love different things about the sport/lifestyle. I generally love reading everything they

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Atlantis f/f/hs 56cm

2013-05-08 Thread a w
Hi, I posted my Atlantis frame for sale and haven't gotten much response. Am I out of touch with the market? I didn't think $1400 shipped was unreasonable for a frame in pretty good shape, is my price too high? Thanks for any input. Art -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Ojiisan
This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of

[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.

2013-05-08 Thread ColonelJLloyd
Pickle brine can stop a cramp, but I don't believe it is known why. It works for me, but it does not prevent cramps and I don't carry pickle brine on bike rides. I like the Clif Shot Blocks margarita flavor. 3x the sodium. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Bay area bikecamping

2013-05-08 Thread MTR
Sounds good, planning on getting into camp about that time. we'll be leaving from upper Haight sunday morning. prob go to sam p tayor or maybe china camp that evening. trying for a mellow trip. Morgan On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:32:40 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Thinking of joining you. I

[RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Kieran J
Hi all, New Riv owner, long time lurker. Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good. However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that would fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for

Re: [RBW] Bay area bikecamping

2013-05-08 Thread MTR
cool. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:23:59 AM UTC-7, danmc wrote: I might be in for part of Sunday and maybe a bit during the week. Let's keep in touch. Dan -Marin On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, MTR ruck...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Evening all, Myself and a couple friends are

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendells on the NYC 5 Boro Bike Tour

2013-05-08 Thread djbardwil
I apologize - I reset security so anyone can see. I'm still getting used to the Google posting procedures On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:53:37 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I can see them... and they show in the Riv group pool: http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/ Looks

Re: [RBW] More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
There are differences, for sure, but Peter Weigle told me that he likes the VO fenders, which he uses on his wonderful reimagined Raleigh Competition randonneurs. That's a pretty solid recommendation. On May 8, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Ojiisan a...@mynvw.commailto:a...@mynvw.com wrote: This has

[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread David Spranger
Never had Honjo but I have used VO fenders on many bikes. The quality has never let me down. They are easily as good (better in many aspects) as the Berthoud fenders I have on one bike. David Charlotte, NC On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:43:38 PM UTC-4, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been

[RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread RJM
I think I posted into the comments when that article originally came out. I have to go through it though. I believe she went and bought herself a seven axiom and has since sold the Hillborne. I remember her saying that she never really did carry much in the way of gear on the bike and never

[RBW] Re: Cloth Tape over Cork Grips?

2013-05-08 Thread Ron Mc
looks grippy - good job On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 5:13:18 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Oops. Here 'tis... http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8717798307/in/photostream With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:16:34 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here's the post shellac

[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Ron Mc
Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice.

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 20:09 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Undersized tubing? Maybe it's not obvious to everybody, but a lot of plus-sized people are drawn to Riv by the promise of high-bar comfort and sturdiness. Put some chugging 270-pounder on a bike with undersized tubes, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Pesce
Hey Jeremy- Do you have a pic of the Bosco bars on your QB? I moved my Albas to my Sam, and put Noodles on the QB, but now I want to go back to upright on the QB, and I'm not sure if I should get another set of Albas or try the Bosco. Thanks! Pete in CT On Sunday, May 5, 2013 11:47:12 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This is all a matter of taste, I think. I'm 170 - 175, and my custom Rivs ride just fine -- I've never felt that they are sluggish in any way, and this compared to other bikes with the old standard sized and all 531 tubing.* My seat-of-the-pants test is how fast I can turn the cranks in a given

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Michael
What actually is a Randonneur frame? Meaning, what is it about its geometry and materials that makes it more suited to this activity over other traditionally styled road bikes - fenderability and tire width and ad- ons capability excluded? -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

2013-05-08 Thread Leslie
Nice! What's the gearing on your White crank? -L On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:09:30 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote: Hey Alex, That's awesome! I may get the Leger tires whenever my regular Hetres wear out. Did you have any brake reach issues in the rear? Toshi On Tue, May 7, 2013 at

[RBW] Re: Mounting a Dyno Light on a Nitto Mini Front Rack with a Basket?

2013-05-08 Thread Leslie
What I did, I wanted the light forward enough to miss my rando-box bag, so I used a mount bolted to the tab at the front of my Mark's rack, to put the light out front. Scroll to the bottom of this page: http://peterwhitecycles.com/light-mounts.asp, and look at the BM Lumotec Fly Cantilever

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?

2013-05-08 Thread Steven Frederick
Patrick Moore wrote: Has anyone used the SOMA Clarence bar? I've used the OnOne Mary bars which seem to be identical or nearly so. They are a nice trail-bikey all 'rounder bar. With Ergon grips they're pretty swell. My favorite mtb/flat alternative bar is currently the Salsa Bend 17degree. Way

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 07:39 -0700, Michael wrote: What actually is a Randonneur frame? Meaning, what is it about its geometry and materials that makes it more suited to this activity over other traditionally styled road bikes - fenderability and tire width and ad- ons capability excluded?

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?

2013-05-08 Thread Jeremy Till
Yep, just posted an update here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8714991825/in/photostream -jeremy On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 6:55:21 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: Hey Jeremy- Do you have a pic of the Bosco bars on your QB? I moved my Albas to my Sam, and put Noodles on the QB,

[RBW] FS: saddle, shifters

2013-05-08 Thread johnb
For sale 2 pairs of Silver Shifters with splitters (actually 1.5 sets of splitters). Shifter end has splitters but they both joined the same rear section. I would like to sell these as a pair for someone looking to have two cockpits on one bike. I moved to downtube shifters to simplify this a

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Atlantis f/f/hs 56cm

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Bernard
In my opinion you'll have better luck at $1000, but sometimes it's just a matter of timing with a group of this limited size, especially considering many of us already have one-or-more Rivs. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:30:38 PM UTC-7, a w wrote: Hi, I posted my

Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?

2013-05-08 Thread James Warren
Ah, the last 64 cm orange QB!Looks great.-Original Message- From: Jeremy Till Sent: May 8, 2013 8:11 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed? Yep, just posted an update here:

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread James Warren
Very thorough description. Describing the mission is a good way to highlight a point that has already been made: Rivendells are designed for riding that doesn't resemble that description. So comparing Rivendells to BQ bikes is an apples/oranges thing. -Original Message- From: Steve

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Atlantis f/f/hs 56cm

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
take for example this ad from a little while back, similar price but comes with a boss set of wheels. Christopher Miller Rosales cmillerrosa...@gmail.com viahttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=1311182 googlegroups.com Apr 29 (9 days ago) to rbw-owners-bun. Hey all,

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
I have never read BQ, but it is my understanding that they are recommending a type of bike that isn't off the peg or readily available, the Classic Randonneur so as pointed out on the Lovely Bicycle blog it might be hard for a lot of us to make a comparison. Maybe the VO Polyvalent? On Wed, May

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread jpp
Randonneur is the new cyclocross. Nothing wrong with either, but like 10 years ago it seemed everyone started making cyclocross bikes and everybody started racing, now it has shifted to Rando. But I agree with Jim Thill, get a nice bike you like and JUST RIDE! On Wednesday, May 8, 2013

[RBW] Looking for Velo Orange Crank FS

2013-05-08 Thread Eric Norris
Can the person offering the Velo Orange Grand Cru crankset for sale please contact me? I'm interested in buying it. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] FS: saddle, shifters

2013-05-08 Thread johnb
Sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Steve P: I used the term undersized in reference to tubing because the smaller tubing diameter has become nonstandard over the last 20 or so years. You can switch it around and refer to that which is the current norm as oversized if you prefer, but that seems like too much effort swimming

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Bryan
I've never given this whole debate much thought. I like Rivendell bikes because when I manage to squeeze two or three hours out of my busy schedule on a weekend for a ride in the local mountains, I want to ride a road bike that will take me anywhere, including rocky trails if the notion grabs

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew J
I am somewhat contrarian - at least from the Riv / BQ perspective. In the nine years now I've been without a car, I have come to the conclusion that I far prefer a a low trail bike with porteur style rack for urban commuting and errand running. For me it is easier popping my things and

[RBW] Re: Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.

2013-05-08 Thread hsmitham
Yes carrying pickle brine probably isn't the most convenient though I imagine you could drink it post ride and that could help, I'm inclined to ingest a solution before, during and post ride. I forgot to mention I'm going to try Coco hydro in the future as Ted Durant Milwaukee recommended and

Re: [RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

2013-05-08 Thread Alex Zeibot
Hi Toshi, No brake issues in either the front or rear. I believe couple of mm to spare in the rear. Alex On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Alex, That's awesome! I may get the Leger tires whenever my regular Hetres wear out. Did you have any brake

Re: [RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

2013-05-08 Thread Alex Zeibot
Hi Leslie, 170mm cranks w/ 42x16 with 11-28 cassette. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! What's the gearing on your White crank? -L On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:09:30 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote: Hey Alex, That's awesome! I may get the Leger tires

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Atlantis f/f/hs 56cm

2013-05-08 Thread hsmitham
I don't think starting out at $1400 is wrong as long as you are willing to negotiate down to what the market will bear and of course the condition of the frame is a major factor. What I have found from this group, if you ask for too much rather than negotiate you down they let it sit rather

[RBW] And it has wool in it!

2013-05-08 Thread clyde canter
http://www.wcyb.com/shirt-can-be-worn-100-times-before-washing/-/14590664/20008266/-/8v214q/-/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: And it has wool in it!

2013-05-08 Thread Ron Mc
it's a great theory, but when the birds start landing on it to eat the crumbs, it's time to wash it. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:03:07 PM UTC-5, ccanter wrote: http://www.wcyb.com/shirt-can-be-worn-100-times-before-washing/-/14590664/20008266/-/8v214q/-/index.html -- You received this

RE: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Larry Powers
After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with fenders the bike is built for 28mm tires. Yes I did get slightly bigger tires on for awhile, Grand Bois 30mm, but everything had to be just right. I am feeding mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires. Without fenders the

[RBW] Re: New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have a pair of lightly used JB's; one blue, one green. I've sold the bike they were on and don't see a use for them now. Nice tires though. Michael On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:39:12 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Hi all, New Riv owner, long time lurker. Received and built up a 66cm

Re: [RBW] Re: And it has wool in it!

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
Hipsters don't wash their clothes anyway, unless its ironically. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: it's a great theory, but when the birds start landing on it to eat the crumbs, it's time to wash it. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:03:07 PM UTC-5, ccanter

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 09:03 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Steve P: I used the term undersized in reference to tubing because the smaller tubing diameter has become nonstandard over the last 20 or so years. You can switch it around and refer to that which is the current norm as

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread William
So no, I wasn't predisposed to agree with Jan; I was predisposed to agree with Grant. Experience taught me that Jan was right. Of course you don't mean that Jan was objectively right, and by extension that Grant was/is objectively wrong. You mean that subjectively, for you and the riding

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 12:14 -0700, William wrote: So no, I wasn't predisposed to agree with Jan; I was predisposed to agree with Grant. Experience taught me that Jan was right. Of course you don't mean that Jan was objectively right, and by extension that Grant was/is

RE: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
It seems to me that what you've just said, Steve -- and I think it's all you've said -- is that you personally (and subjectively) value the incremental benefit in climbing/pedaling efficiency (relative to the efficiency of your Saluki) more than you value whatever is given up in other desirable

[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Minh
Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders

RE: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:40 +, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: It seems to me that what you've just said, Steve -- and I think it's all you've said -- is that you personally (and subjectively) value the incremental benefit in climbing/pedaling efficiency (relative to the efficiency of your

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Mike Schiller
...very few people have ridden a bike like Jan suggests so it's hard to accept that there is a difference. A standard dia. 531 tubed bike is built stiffer than Jan's performance based Randonneuring bikes. While I believe humans can adapt to most any thing, there are subtle advantages to the

RE: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I said there's a real, objective difference. It's not just subjective. I'm not imagining it. It's real. Agreed -- the real difference you've identified is an improvement in climbing efficiency (or maybe more generally, pedaling efficiency overall). I wasn't suggesting that it was imagined

Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Alex Zeibot
To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives me more convenience and headache free installation. Can't speak for Berthouds as I never had them. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I

Re: [RBW] Anyone have recommendations for a good Electrolyte solution.

2013-05-08 Thread ascpgh
Prepared mustard has brine and vinegar in it to stop and stabilize the escalating heat of an evolving mustard/water solution. The substance making the hotness, isothiocyanate, is a great antioxidant. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh A friend carries a bottle of French's Mustard in his front bag and

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Philip Williamson
This excellent summation of a randonneur bike's mission also describes a commute bike's mission. You need to get yourself and some gear to a destination, on time. A commuter (this one, anyway), may get a randonneur's five hour feeling at the 40 minute mark. In the bigger debate, I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal comparatively speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has been said that some VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear but the 52mm Zeppelins def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO didn't

[RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Chris Lampe 2
I tend to waffle between Grant's and Jan's viewpoints on bicycles. I think part of that is curiosity about the type of ride that Rivendell's provide. I've heard so many glowing reports that I want to experience it for myself. Also, I'm an uber-clydesdale and I trust Rivendell bicycles to be

Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread David Hays
Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price

Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Kieran J
Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other fendered bikes for poor weather riding. Going to try the Resist Nomad 700x35 (31 actual) to start. Cheap enough to try 'em out for fun. I've heard people say that the Ram is most stable (or, was meant for) 700x28's, but I can't

Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your overstuffed Small Sackville Saddlesack

2013-05-08 Thread Doug Williams
Good points! I have a Small Sackville SaddleSack on order. I can't wait to try it out and I expect it will be great for the majority of what I do. That said; I just got back from Trader Joe's. I take my bike right into the store (leave the lock at home) and I use my bike as a shopping cart

[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Ojiisan
Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like the look of the smooth fenders but now I'm thinking the hammered texture

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Brian Campbell
These types of threads are equivalent to arguing over which is the better type of screw dirver, flat head or phillips head? Whichever best suites the job you want to accomplish. A true rando bike is a purpose built machine. Riv's are not built as rando bikes (integrated lights, front loading

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Boulder http://renehersebicycles.com/ and Box Doghttp://www.boxdogbikes.com/products-the-bdb-pelican/bikes both sell off-the-peg randonneuses. Some older bikes are low trail (my old Ross), or a used Kogswell, or re-raking a fork on an under-used bike are some low-cost ways to try out the idea.

Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. See picture in my Flikr feed.

[RBW] Biplane Fork for 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 Wanted

2013-05-08 Thread Brian Petrin
I'd been looking around for a nice MB-2 for some time, to go with my 1992 RB-2, when I stumbled upon a 1993 MB-1 unused frame. I drove 400 miles and bought it right away. The story behind the frame is that it was supplied to somebody as a warranty frame. This person returned it with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
Damn, forgot about Boulder. Their 650b lugged offering is amazing looking. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Boulder http://renehersebicycles.com/ and Box Doghttp://www.boxdogbikes.com/products-the-bdb-pelican/bikes both sell off-the-peg

Re: [RBW] Biplane Fork for 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 Wanted

2013-05-08 Thread Tim Gavin
Nice find! I found this discussion (from 2008, but old bike dudes are still old) about a fellow who broke the fork on his tusk MB-1. You may be able to track someone down. http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro-classic/ritchey-bi-plane-fork-repair-rebuild-anyone-interested-474327.html On Wed,

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 13:12 -0700, Philip Williamson wrote: This excellent summation of a randonneur bike's mission also describes a commute bike's mission. You need to get yourself and some gear to a destination, on time. A commuter (this one, anyway), may get a randonneur's five hour feeling

RE: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
VO even has a 58mm version of its 650B fenders now. Smooth only, though. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Morgano Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 4:17 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed I

Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Minh
Kieran, Let us know on the actual measurements, i did not see that these measure so much smaller then labeled. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:05:28 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other fendered bikes for poor weather riding. Going to try

Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Minh
on the VO daruma at the fender stay issue, i think i saw back that VO started offering dual daruma. but to be honest i've been happy with my single daruma, and the berthoud (which use two affixing points) is more secure but not hugely so. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:34:41 PM UTC-4, Pudge

[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Fredrickson
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:24:59 AM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like the

Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread James Warren
Kieren,Despite the word on the street, I'll let you know that for me, the Ram with Jack Brown Greeen 700x 33.333 is just the bee's knee's.I have a lot of nice bikes, and the Ram, so equipped, keeps coming back to being my favorite of them. It's a 64 cm frame and I'm about 225 lbs.

Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Alex Zeibot
Hi David, Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on 650b specific bike. It took me some time like Peter pointed out but it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations. You should not have any issues with the installation as long as you have plenty time on your hands

[RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Brewster Fong
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:00:05 PM UTC-7, samh wrote: I was fascinated by the discussion here: http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/02/choosing-your-gospel-rivendell-vs.html One difference between Riv and BQ that I may have missed is their preference in handlebar width. Grant/Riv likes

Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:25 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote: Hi David, Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on 650b specific bike. It took me some time like Peter pointed out but it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations. You should not have any issues with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 14:29 -0700, Brewster Fong wrote: One difference between Riv and BQ that I may have missed is their preference in handlebar width. Grant/Riv likes them wide like 46cm or even 48cm. In contrast, Jan H appears to like them narrower like 38-40cm. Could be body difference,

[RBW] Re: Mounting a Dyno Light on a Nitto Mini Front Rack with a Basket?

2013-05-08 Thread John Philip
Here's how I did it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8721851272/in/photostream/lightbox/ On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:06:30 PM UTC-4, Rick Houston wrote: Going to finally put my wife's Betty Foy together, and she wants the front rack she previously had mounted on her Quickbeam installed on

[RBW] May Spring Ride with Rain, Snell, Snow, and Abandon

2013-05-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
Woke up feeling great this morning, looked out to see rain and heavy clouds and temp at 32˚F. Naturally I grabbed my gear and headed out! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157633435488285/ With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received

[RBW] Re: Looking for Velo Orange Crank FS

2013-05-08 Thread Matt Gilkey
Hello, I posted this one for sale if that is what you are looking for. It is still available. Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $75.00 (I found the second dust cap). *

Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-05-08 Thread Benedikt
Did the store ever get built? If you build it they will come. :) - Brian On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: They are due today or tomorrow actually!! I am building a store and will post a link when it's ready. On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:48:24 AM UTC-6,

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread VeloZen
I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, as well as the right to express it in a peaceful fashion. But I can't help asking ... why would someone who so blatantly feels all Rivendell frames are designed wrong spend so much time hanging out and chatting with the RBW Owner's Bunch? I

[RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Jan Heine
I think there is less difference between Grant's ideas and *Bicycle Quarterly* than many surmise. We both want versatile and durable bikes that are fun to ride and look nice. Whether it's a fully integrated 650B randonneur bike or a Homer Hilsen, both machines allow you to ride in places where

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Right for you. Not right for everyone else. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 12:14 -0700, William wrote: So no, I wasn't predisposed to agree with Jan; I was predisposed to agree with Grant. Experience taught me that Jan was

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Another generalization from particular experiences. I like narrow bars on my Rivendells. To put it in the language of this debate, narrower bars work better with higher trail. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Higher trail works better with wider bars,

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:42 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Right for you. Not right for everyone else. Nobody ever said everyone else. I sure didn't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Another false generalization from particular experience. If you are an experienced rider and know what you want, and you ride enough that the high cost of a constructeur bike will amortize itself, then the constructeur machine offers a performance that is without equal. --

[RBW] Re: Biplane Fork for 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 Wanted

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Bernard
There's plenty of Suntour XC Pro stuff on Ebay, but personally I would lean more towards a period build than an absolutely accurate OEM. retrobike.co.uk will give you a good idea of this type of thing. Beware, though: That site will turn you into a maniac for rare and expensive '90s CNC parts.

Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Do some Rams have more clearance than others? I haven't tried fenders yet, but on my 58 there is surely a lot of gap over 35 mm tires: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925294024508226

[RBW] Re: Biplane Fork for 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 Wanted

2013-05-08 Thread William
The 1993 MB1 wasn't XC Pro, though, but the 1992 was. The 1993 had Deore XT derailers and shifters and rear hub. It had a swank 28 hole ultegra hubbed front wheel. Ritchey(Sugino) cranks, Ritchey(Nitto) seatpost, Ritchey(Dia Compe) brakes, Ritchey(Panaracer) tires. Sheldon has the catalog

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for Velo Orange Crank FS

2013-05-08 Thread Eric Norris
Matt: Thanks for the link to the photos. I'd be setting this up with just the large chainring, and I think this particular crankset wouldn't look right without the small ring. I'll have to pass, but good luck sellinng it! --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter:

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:48 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Another false generalization from particular experience. Actually I think the problem is simply the omission of the phrase and what you want is the sort of thing the constructeur bike offers inserted between want, and and in the first

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread Tim McNamara
Summing up the thread neatly, it was written: I tend to waffle between Grant's and Jan's viewpoints on bicycles. Jan and Grant have both stated numerous times that the differences between them are greatly exaggerated. When I compare Rivendell to BQ to Trek to Cannondale to Blue to

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That is very correct. It may well be that Jan's preferred bikes are best for randonees -- I don't know that, and it may well be that some educated randoneurs prefer the qualities of Rivendell style bikes or racing bikes or whatever else for the same riding. But I do know that Rivendells -- to take

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I will also add that Jan is wrong in his general conclusion (at least, this is the sensus verbi) that while other bikes are OK if you don't want to spend a lot of money or don't really know what you like, his preferred types are the only ones chosen by those who have both the knowledge and money

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

2013-05-08 Thread rperks
One more data point in what makes a pic interesting to flickr will never be understood, by me at least. My photo from the other day detailing the light mount with an old chain ring and a nitto bolt made it to the explore page. The shear number of favorites and comments expounding on my use of

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

2013-05-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
The Flickr algorithm looks for photos with everything just so that include an ironic stray hair snagged in the snap. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 5:27:40 PM UTC-6, rperks wrote: One more data point in what makes a pic interesting to flickr will never be understood,

Re: [RBW] New-to-me Ram - Need tires!

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Broach
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Do some Rams have more clearance than others? I haven't tried fenders yet, but on my 58 there is surely a lot of gap over 35 mm tires:

[RBW] A. Homer Hilsen visits Gettysburg (or what I did this weekend)

2013-05-08 Thread Iron Rider
A report on a long ride to, through and from Gettysburg. Pictures too. http://eprider.blogspot.com/2013/05/leesburg-400k-with-roma-randonneurs-of.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr

2013-05-08 Thread cyclotourist
Ohhh, your use of a shallow depth of field is exceptional! :-) Cheers, David On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The Flickr algorithm looks for photos with everything just so that include an ironic stray hair snagged in the snap. Grin. With abandon,

[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen visits Gettysburg (or what I did this weekend)

2013-05-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wow. Great ride through incredible country! Thank you for sharing your photos and reflections. I loved my time visiting Gettysburg and running through the National Park there. Traveling outside the car really give an awesome feel for what happened there. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday,

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