[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Drew, how is the 650b Atlantis working out?.. - Max “maybe 27.5x2.2 is fat enough, and who needs a MTB?” in A2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Congrats on resolving the dilemma!.. and the resolve to carry through! (As I lay convalescing, suddenly I feel old and infirm. If / when I ride again, I wonder if just getting a Clem L is gonna be my ticket. Just make life easier. I don’t need to go fast or look like I could go fast, I just

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Sam was sold and the Hunq is going to get packed up and shipped out this week. My bike right now is an 84 specialized expedition, but i have a 650b atlantis (in hunq green on order) and ill sell the expedition once it comes. Then i'll be down to one bike, other than one that lives in another

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 11:32:26 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Anyone of you multi wheelset advocates have a good system for going from > slick/fender/dyno light to knobby > All of my wheelsets have dynohubs, so in my case it's just a matter of popping one wheelset out and

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

banana connectors? On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > I love the idea of multiple wheelsets and executed it for my wife's 52cm > Clementine. I've got two nearly identical velocity synergy/shimano w/ dyno > wheelsets one with Fatty Rumpkins and one with

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I have three small ones and "some" bikes. I love my Hunq and will likely not ever get rid of it. My suggestion is to keep the Hunq, and buy a cool kid carrier. I have a Workcycles Bakfiets and in all honesty, it often gets the most road time of all my bikes. I get to be out with my boys,

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Run your Hunq with large Schwalbe slicks (e.g. Big Ones or the latest version of this tire) and you'll never notice a difference between it and a 650b Atlantis. Really. You know your Hunq fits and you love it. On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 1:43:42 PM UTC-4, drew wrote: > > that ceiling thing

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

FWIW, I live in a very small house, have a young kid, and built an 8x10 shed to avoid the problem discussed here. I don't know if that's an option for you, but my shed easily holds my four bikes and a sizable workbench with repair stand. Plus the rest of the junk of modern life. Dunno if

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

im no dynamo expert, but, could you put one of those quick connector things near the light and a connector near the hub and swap in the middle section, be it the fendered wire or just regular wire? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

i can change wheels. And now with paul motolites, i don't even need to deflate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I love the idea of multiple wheelsets and executed it for my wife's 52cm Clementine. I've got two nearly identical velocity synergy/shimano w/ dyno wheelsets one with Fatty Rumpkins and one with Nobby Nics. Now the hassle I've found is not the actual swap b/c the brake offset is identical but

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I think using what you have and adding what is needed or used is all we should have. The accumulations of bicycles is nice but you cant just ride them all, all the time and justification for having them lessen the reason to have them. I read or heard that the late comedian Robin Williams had

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

This is always an interesting thought experiment, if nothing else. I've decided that n=2 for me: a Sam (with 42 Soma Shikoros) and a Surly Troll (with 3" WTB Rangers). I'm going to roll with this combination for the foreseeable future--maybe even take DP's advice and do three years--that seems

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:28:03 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: > > Sell everything but the Sam and buy northing else. Chances are you will be > just fine, since the Sam can do all of the riding and eventual kid hauling > (Congratulations!) that you will likely do. Set it up with new >

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Then keep the hunq and purge everything else. What's the BB drop on the thing? -david parsons On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:43:42 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > that ceiling thing actually looks kinda promising. there is a subtext of > unspoken wife expectation that im either feeling or

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

that ceiling thing actually looks kinda promising. there is a subtext of unspoken wife expectation that im either feeling or imagining, and actually, i think Leah's bike suggestion would do a lot to assuage them. i do agree that the sam would probably be a totally adequate 1 bike. The problem

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Sell everything but the Sam and buy northing else. Chances are you will be just fine, since the Sam can do all of the riding and eventual kid hauling (Congratulations!) that you will likely do. Set it up with new bars/saddle/rack if you need to. I have 2 bikes my AHH and a 1989 Trek 950

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Drew, How tall are your ceilings? http://www.businessinsider.com/stowaway-bike-storage-system-2015-12 John On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 6:55:17 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > Say you had a hunqapillar, a Sam and a couple vintage bikes. But mostly > the hunq and Sam got ridden and you felt like you

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Eric, your point is acknowledged and agreed with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I just want to second the idea of getting two sets of wheel for that one bike and *to make sure that the rims have the same width*--will make wheel changes much easier. On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 2:23:33 AM UTC-4, Ian A wrote: > > One bike + a home workshop. > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

One bike + a home workshop. On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:30:52 PM UTC-6, christian poppell wrote: > > I believe Jobst Brandt had only one bike and he went everywhere! I think > you can satisfy want and need all in one shot. You want an Atlantis and at > that point you only need one bike!

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 2:53:20 PM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote: > > Orc, > > Do you have any pictures of the tandem style cabling? I would be curious > how that works to easily swap handle bars. > No pictures, but S sells them @ http://www.sandsmachine.com/ac_cable.htm -david parsons -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Drew said..."Oh man. You have a rambler and an adventure bike? Why would anyone need another bike?" To answer his question, and sort of aim back at the original one bike idea, let me say that I don't need another bike...but I also have a Quickbeam. Any one of my bikes could be a "one bike"

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

*NEVER* mind. I see you said "under 40" and not "over 40". https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwixk9GC8ZjUAhXKwVQKHaZFAnkQ3ywIKTAA=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DV3FnpaWQJO0=AFQjCNHPlGQEyIRumeF2Nfwx1-9qlur4eA=BkqcKK7ATbUoV_ECglT9Sg On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:32 PM,

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I would say keep the Hunq and at least one of the other three (a back-up commuter is an essential for me). You could always have the canti mounts moved on the Hunq to the 650b position, questions of BB clearance, but that's often solved by running a wider tire. I have a frame and fork with the

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

There are certainly other reasons than the Joneses to have more than 1 bike! Drew: If you put a gun to my head and told me, "Choose just one," and if you weren't going to use fat tires, why not the Sam? Though an Atlantis would be Riv model #2 on my list, after the Roadeo, if I had a Riv list.

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Oh man. You have a rambler and an adventure bike? Why would anyone need another bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

50 mm tires versus 1" tires, actual width 22-24 mm depending on rim; both on NORBA era mountain bike with drop bar. The bikes I have in mind were notable for their very neutral -- very sweet -- handing with 2" tires, but put on a 26 X 1" tire and the handling was neither stable in a straight line,

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Justin asked..."Which Bantam built machine would you choose? Rambler or Adventure bike?" Fortunately, my Rambler is pre-Bantam, so I think that means I am exempt from answering such as ridiculously difficult question, right? Besides, this thread is for Drew's dilemma. It is much easier to

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Drew, I ride my Bombadil pretty much 99 percent on road as I simply don't have any bike trails around my home, just mostly brutal not frequently used atv paths. I prefer road riding anyways, it's not so jarring(usually !). I also have nice custom sport touring bike with 35mm tires that rides

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I'm not that knowledgeable about bikes in particular, but the hung is your "favorite" and it's obvious from your follow up replies that it brings you so much joy. I wouldn't sell anything that brings that much happiness. After that, you can decide if the Sam (no more monetary layout) or

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

i think that, in all foreseeable likelihood, i wont be running a tire under 40mm... especially on the hunq. right now it has 700x2.25 tires and feels somewhat monstrous on the 54cm frame. the vintage trek has 26x2.2 tires and it feels almost too nimble. so the idea of splitting that difference

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I would add that I think the Appaloosa would be a great solution as well for one bike and the long chain stays have been nice with a bike seat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Orc, Do you have any pictures of the tandem style cabling? I would be curious how that works to easily swap handle bars. I like the two wheel solution but to Patrick's point you are probably not going with a 23mm and 50 mm option. Maybe 40mm and 50mm? I would say with a new born you run

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Congrats on your upcoming bundle of joy! It's the start of everything. But back to bikes, I'd sell two of them right off just for the sake of domestic tranquility, the two vintage bikes. Buy a nice crib and dresser with the proceeds. If you don't really need to sell, but just have no place

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Drew offered a multiple-choice scenario, based on various motivations and constraints, and asked 'what would you do?' Of the choices given, my honest most-likely choice would be: -realize that the one bike hypothesis is not practical and ignore all problems in your life. Assuming that's not

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:28:18 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Visually, but certainly not in serviceability! Your 650B wheels will leave > your bb 3/4" closer to the floor. Much more to the point would be 650B X > 42s which are about the same diameter of 700C X 25s. > Yes. So

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

One other thing to consider and it may have already been mentioned. If you go with two sets of wheels, consider having the width of the rims very close or the same as each other. If you have to completely readjust your brakes every time you make a wheel swap, you won't be as likely to get all

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Visually, but certainly not in serviceability! Your 650B wheels will leave your bb 3/4" closer to the floor. Much more to the point would be 650B X 42s which are about the same diameter of 700C X 25s. Also, a bike designed to handle well with 42 or 50 mm tires won't handle as well with 25s, at

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Brewster: If you care to post photos and brief descriptions of your bikes, I'd be interested in looking at them. I used to have 1 bike with 3 wheelsets: 50 mm off road, 32 mm commuting, and 22 mm gofast, all with the appropriate cassettes. Sure, it all worked, but I was still limited by one bike:

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

If space is more important than money, strip the Hunq down to the frame and tuck it into the corner (or hang it in the closet, or on a wall) for later when you've got more time, space, and mental energy) and then look at the other 3 bicycles for weeding down to one. The 650b do-it-all is not a

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

The CX-50s, or any brake that clears the forks and chainstays completely, will help a lot with wheel change out. I've got older Tektros and have to deflate the fatter tires every time I swap wheels (which I do pretty often). I'll definitely get some when I feel more financially flush and

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I don't understand having only one bike, especially if you commute, tour or just ride a lot. I guess if a person is on top of maintenance and things don't break, it should work. However, I found that one bike, even with several wheelsets isn't enough. I have had things break when I'm ready to

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Drew- While I tend to advocate for not buying new things, making what you have work, etc… You could also: Sell everything. Buy a new 650b Atlantis 2 wheel sets: 1) 36hole Atlas Rims with 650b x 2.1 tires 2) 32hole Pacenti brevet rims with 650b x 42/48 tires (Compass EL) Then you get a new bike,

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

All good advice. While i had considered a set of different tires, a totally different wheelset+tires seems like it would do more to access the bike's versatility in a convenient way. and then i'd have an excuse to experiment with compass tires... interesting. > > In reality, the sam may be

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I'm actually in the process of pairing down to one bike at the moment due to space constraints. I live in the city and don't do any significant rugged trail riding, so a rig very much like Chris's Rambler is perfect for all my riding. But if I rode more rough stuff, the Hunq with two wheelsets

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Chris- Which Bantam built machine would you choose? Rambler or Adventure bike? On May 30, 2017, 10:23 AM -0700, Pondero , wrote: > I also like Justin's extra wheelset idea.  Brilliant!  The Hunq is versatile, > so why not take full advantage of it?  Sure, it is easier to

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I also like Justin's extra wheelset idea. Brilliant! The Hunq is versatile, so why not take full advantage of it? Sure, it is easier to grab a different bike for a purpose, but changing out wheels is a relatively simple task. I'm convinced I could (if forced) to get down to a single bike,

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:14:18 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote: > > The problems with converting [to 650b] is it would require moving the > canti posts and a repaint and it lowers your bottom bracket (pedal strike). > Yes and no. I converted my Trek 1000 to 650b a few years ago and have

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Congrats on your burgeoning family, Drew. I don't have any kids so I don't have first-hand experience with that journey but I DO know that I like having a quick bike in addition to my commuter-type one. I might echo David's thought on keeping the Hunq and keeping/adding a fasty bike? Even a

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I'm with Justin on the two wheelset solution. I have that with my Hillborne and it provides a lot more versatility. Lighter weight 32 hole Synergies with Barlow Pass ELs for the road and 36 hole A719s with 45 Smart Sams for trails. If I was in your situation, I'd probably keep the Hunq. As

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

How much would a set of the Snoqualmie Pass ELs mitigate the challenge of overcoming the acceleration inertia of a larger tire? Or convert the Hunqa to 650b and put the Switchback Hills on there? The frame isn't the issue, the wheel/tire size weight is the issue. Several ways to mitigate that

Re: [RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Keith: how do you like the Colossal Ti? What sort of riding do you do with it -- is it pavement only? On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Keith Muller wrote: > So I have 5 bikes at the moment. > > Hunqapillar w/ bullmoose bars > Atlantis w/ albastache bars > Appaloosa w/

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I had my first kid nearly a couple years ago, and the second is due shortly. My biking priorities and types of rides changed drastically with an infant. I think the Hunq would be great as a kid hauler/city-commuter. If you're going to do road rides, I'd suggest keeping the Hunq, sell everything

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Hi Drew. Best wishes on your planned for growing family. If possible, keep both the Sam and the Hunq and your bicycle needs will likely be met for years to come. In my experience, your riding may diminish a bit for awhile but YMMV depending on your family situation. I don't think the single

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 1:45:24 AM UTC-4, drew wrote: > > I don't think keeping both is in the cards, at least not for the long > haul. I could hold out, but eventually the Sam is gonna go. > > *Hunq in the city is comfy and fun, but can be hard to keep up with > friends on roadier bikes.

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Everyone seems to have answered your questions, so the only one I have to add/answer is: How roadie are your friends bikes and the rides? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

It sounds to me like you think the Hunqapillar is great, and would be even better as a slightly less stout 650b bike. That's the Atlantis. Sell everything and buy the one bike you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

You could always build a nice city wheelset with a fat and fast tire on it. That way the hunq can stay. You're going to have the same speed issue on the Atlantis if you keep the same tire and wheel type. 650b wheels be tiresarent magically better due to the diameter, everything else being equal

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I don't think keeping both is in the cards, at least not for the long haul. I could hold out, but eventually the Sam is gonna go. Hunq in the city is comfy and fun, but can be hard to keep up with friends on roadier bikes. Big 29er tires and wheels can make stopping and starting and climbing a

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I would keep the Hung and the Sam since that will probably fit all your riding situations absent road racing. Which bike will you set up for the kid? I currently have the Joe setup with a bike seat and it rides fantastic. I have a dropbar Romulus that I can take out without all the equipment.

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Drew: Congratulations on your growing family. In a couple of years you'll be making bike choices based on "kidability". To your question, I endorse option 1. I can see the Hunq handling things like kid seats, trailers, trail-a-bikes, etc., better than Sam. Option 2 is a bit

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

I'll second the congrats on your growing family! I'm 11 months in with my daughter and it's been truly wonderful. Biking related I'm using the 'need' for a dedicated front kid seat bike as justification for one of my (not n=1) bikes... I've entertained many scenarios like your #2 and while I

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

So I have 5 bikes at the moment. Hunqapillar w/ bullmoose bars Atlantis w/ albastache bars Appaloosa w/ albatross bars Salsa Vaya Travel w/ drop bars Salsa Colosal Ti w/ drop bars My Hunqapillar is by far my favorite bike I own/have owned! Every time I get on it, it just feels so magical!

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Howdy, I definitely would not buy another bike-- experience has taught me that this is rarely the solution. I'd keep the Sam and the Hunq and sell everything else. Two good bikes that will cover everything but road racing. If the time comes (financially or otherwise) to sell one of the two

[RBW] Re: On downsizing (and the 1 bike, and 650b)

Congratulations on preparing to grow a family, Drew! Awesome! Option 1, though I do not fathom why the Hunqa is "not the best for city road riding." Cushy, smooth tires, fenders, favortie handlebar set up, all set! Add panniers and you've got the ability to run errands galore. With abandon,