Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

PSA: Looks like those longer reach dia compe are in stock at Soma Fab. They're not cheap. My experience with 559 vs. Paul centerpulls on a caliper brake Hillborne model was that the CP's stopped

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I'm glad you mentioned these, as I'd not heard of them. They look nice, and if they stop as you say, then they are very good deals at half the price -- or less -- of Paul's. The website does not say; how long a reach do they have? And: Will the wider ones fit 42s and fenders? If so, I almost wish

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Has anyone used the Dia Compe BRS202? How does it compare to the R559? Best, Aaron in El Paso On Jul 13, 2022, at 10:12, Daniel MacPherson wrote:  Thanks for the review. I remember seeing them a while back on the QBP website and thought to myself that I should snag the last two. I regret

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Those Shimano drop-bar levers are still available! Buy them at rivbike.com, amazon.com, ebay.com and several other places. Regards, Corwin On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 3:52:46 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > I must ride a lot slower than all's y'all's... but I've honestly never had > any

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Thanks for the review. I remember seeing them a while back on the QBP website and thought to myself that I should snag the last two. I regret not doing that now. Sincerely, Daniel M Tallahassee, FL On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:46 PM esoterica etc wrote: > > Hey Daniel, > > I have a set of Paul

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

My dumb question is why not u-brakes with a backing plate. (Fender clearance?) https://www.porkchopbmx.com/dia-compe-br-990-boomerang-bmx-u-brake-adapter-pla.html https://www.porkchopbmx.com/dia-compe-ad-990-fs-990-bmx-u-brake-bicyc-46160865.html Really just curious to know if anyone has tried

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Hey Daniel, I have a set of Paul Racers with TRP RRL levers on my Soma San Marcos (Riv-made and very similar to an AHH), and a set of the Tektro 559s with Shimano 600 non-aero levers on my Schwinn World Voyageur set up as a double single-speed bike. I've taken the Schwinn on roads where I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I have 559s (with salmon Yokozuna pads) on my Hillborne. When I built up a second bike for wetter conditions I went with a Surly Disc Trucker with Yokozuna Ultimo hybrid disc brakes. I have to say that the difference in braking feel and performance, even in dry conditions, is quite

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:23:48 PM UTC-5 Josiah Anderson wrote: > I've noticed that it seems like many of the people who like the 559s ride > in relatively dry places and many of us who regularly deal with wet and > freezing conditions find them inadequate. That's just my hypothesis on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Are the Paul Racer brakes better? I’m tempted to buy the latest Crust road bike in the near future but I don’t want to run 559s or Mafacs. I know they’ve been discontinued but I’m sure over the next 6 months, a couple will pop-up on Ebay or the ibob community. Daniel M Tallahassee Fl On Tue,

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Ha. Yeah. Good point. Definitely SF Bay Area where things are reasonably dry and dusty. I will say that have run that through some fairly wet brevets and did use those when I used the AHH for CX. We had some muddy days - https://flic.kr/p/61iVgT On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 12:23:48 PM UTC-7

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I agree with Eric and others who find the 559s lacking in stopping power. They're more or less good enough in dry conditions, but if it's wet, not so much, and they're even worse in the snow. One of my scariest bike experiences ever was on a 650b conversion of an old Trek with 559s (with salmon

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

To everyone who is satisfied with their long reach brakes, how do they work *in the wet*? For instance, after riding across a short section of wet grass, my long reach brakes literally can't stop my bike until the wheels have rotated several times. I almost went into a cross street because of this

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I must ride a lot slower than all's y'all's... but I've honestly never had any trouble with my brakes on my AHH. I use the original standard Shimano Lever that shipped with it in aught-seven (probably discontinued) on a set of Noodle bars. They don't bottom out at full pressure and the wheel

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Laing: Forgive me if you've posted some before, but if not, I'd be delighted to see photos of your Riv custom "racing bike." 53.4 X 62?? What sort of bar? Me, I fit almost the diametrical opposite: 60 X 56 c-c for a drop-bar bike. To all: I've found this discussion interesting, both regarding

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Maybe kick-ass long reach caliper brakes are inherently unlikely because the needed length alone - no matter what great brake pads are installed - makes the brake arms less forceful than, say, medium reach brakes (like on my Ram). On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 7:50 AM Daniel MacPherson wrote: > I

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I’m with you, Joe. Still cracks me up when I see a bike with cantilevers and clearance for 700x28. That was a huge “road” tire at the time, and I remember Grant excitedly teasing the larger clearance caliper. I’m beginning to think there’s something wrong with my acceptance of Tektro 559

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

The CHG change is especially frustrating to me, because the frame checked so many boxes for me with the canti brakes. But now it's a non-starter. Eric On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:49 PM iamkeith wrote: > > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:16:35 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Johnny, I believe

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:16:35 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: > Johnny, I believe that's how the long-reach-caliper Cheviot became the > v-brake Platypus. V-brakes just work and I spec'd them on my light duty > mostly-pavement custom as well. > > Joe Bernard > > But this doesn't explain

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Appearance was a large consideration when I selected the Rene Herse braze-on centerpull brakes for my Rivendell Custom that was intended as a road bike. I call it a fat man's racing bike. "Racing Bike" as in no braze-ons for racks, no fender eyelets, no holes in the "brake" or chain stay

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look odd to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe Rivendell

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is Grant had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely associated with calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We don't think anything of it now but at the time if your bike had canti posts it was a tourer

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I assume the folks at Rivendell find them adequate. I’ve used the 559s (with kook stop pads) on a fixed gear with a front brake only in the mountains and found it worked fine. I’ve actually done this on multiple 650b fixed conversions. I’ve even used DC750s in this setup. I’ve also used the

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I once installed Tektro R559 brakes on a friends 27” to 700 road bike conversion. She mentions to this day that she could never stop adequately on that bike. Personally, I don’t understand bikes that need long reach calipers. Either go canti/v-brake or disc brakes for these type of bikes.

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Johnny, I believe that's how the long-reach-caliper Cheviot became the v-brake Platypus. V-brakes just work and I spec'd them on my light duty mostly-pavement custom as well. Joe Bernard On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:52:03 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: > I didn't realize those brakes would

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been something for mid-reach brakes. IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there are no great options with great stopping

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like the VO. My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is no stopping power at all. I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv bikes require longer reach. Best, Aaron in El Paso On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest wrote: Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. On