My Road Standard fits only 28 mm tires with less than 1 mm of clearance at
the brake bridge. :( I believe it had ~10 yr old Shimano 105 dual pivot
sidepull calipers, and they didn't impinge on the very limited clearance.
I got sick of that limitation and now it rides on 650 x 38b tires and
Michael,
I would also chime in in favor of the Hillborne. I owned a Bianchi road
bike and a SOMA hardtail mtb when I was recently lucky enough to pick up a
used, orange 56 Sam. I had been test riding the bikes at Rivendell looking
for a commuter/all-arounder. All rode great but I was
Brian, I have a set of noodles I'm not gonna use. If you don't find a local
deal Let me know.
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Good list.
The original frame catalog pages of the first few Readers had the Road, All
Rounder, and Mountain as the available models. This was in 1995.
The Longlow came into it 2 or 3 years later.
In those late 90's years, there was a also a very rare Rivendell Cyclocross
model. The shift to
Had a wonderful group ride around Peavine mountain near Reno yesterday. A
great array of retro mountain bikes and non-suspended rides. I was on my
AR but the highlight for me was the early 90s Klein mtn bike with full
campy mountain group that a friend was on. Pics here:
I can't believe I missed almost all of the mixtes. I rode a red Wilbury at Riv
HQ, and dearly wish I had taken that baby home.
There's the Mystery Bike, too, which Pudge owns. 9 or 10 were built, which
qualifies it as its own Rivendell model.
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Most here already know this, of course, but I summarized what we now know
about tire pressure and performance in a new blog post today...
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/the-tire-pressure-revolution/
Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com
Follow our blog at
I didn't see the Appaloosa on your list (or is that technically the
Protovelo Mystery Bike you're talking about?). I'm referring to the big,
green bike Keven rides to RBW.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 6:52:32 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
I can't believe I missed almost all of the mixtes.
Yep, that's the Mystery Bike, also known as HS and Bosco Rubbe (or was it
Rosco Bubbe?). The Appaloosa name is apparently headed to a different bike
which will actually see production.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 8:11:22 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
I didn't see the Appaloosa on your list
Riv Mountain ?? Wow, what was that ??
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I have a Carradice that is about the width of a Sackville Saddlesack Small
but not as deep. Scroll through these four photos for sense of size and
condition. Maybe $20 + shipping (or free sf bay area pickup)?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/15753683233/
John
On Wednesday,
Hi Brian,
We met last Summer at the Jamboree. I'm the Jim with the proto-2TT-Hunqapillar
with the same paint as yours.
Any interest in straight up trading the Green Brooks B17 Special for my SA
saddle, brown. We could each ship to each other, and handle our own shipping
costs separately. If
Also Betty Foy.
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I'm not sure where they fit in the list (maybe near the
Nope, that's internet-bob.
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 6:32:20 PM UTC-8, Justin August wrote:
I believe prices are required.
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Are there any resources that list tires that fall into the supple
category (or those that do not)? I've been debating going to a 32 or 35c
Marathon Supreme for a road tire. Is that considered supple? Also, based
on your findings, it sounds like 35 might be preferable since the larger
size
Anyone have a 80mm DirtDrop or Periscopa languishing in there parts bin
that they are willing to part with?
Cheers
Jayme
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The only thing I can add is that the bike you are looking at appears to
have Repack geometry which is very slack seat and head angles and a very
long wheelbase. These bikes handle very differently than modern bikes or
even bikes from just a few years later. People seem to either love or hate
Steve,
That's my zip code, too! Let me know if you want to ride sometime.
-Erl
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 1:09:30 PM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
John, I'd like the Carradice if the OP doesn't want it. Sorry I can't PM
from my iPad. It would have to be shipped to 20895. If interested,
We're Hetres ever tested? Didn't remember seeing them mentioned in Vol. 5.
Maybe they were in later tests?
Looking forward to the Compass tire tests.
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Yes, even the folding Supremes are not THAT supple. But let me say that they
are more supple than many tires out there, they run very nicely. But they
aren't as supple as the Compass tires or their ilk. The strength of the
Schwalbe Marathon Supreme is that it is very flat resistant and tough
so now that i have been doing longer/overnight rides, my fiance is showing
interest in joining me. she is a great camper already, though slow to warm
to bicycles. id like to start setting up a reasonably capable and
attractive (touring) bike for her, but i dont want to go too far into the
Another
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oLcg2pDSJd4/VMZ2nERDtoI/AEo/TLhqHbJOAGA/s1600/8061213889_e540b6e061_b.jpg
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 11:16:10 AM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
This Rivendell mountain bike photo may just be my favorite of all time:
This Rivendell mountain bike photo may just be my favorite of all time:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f7CR3eiqxdI/VMZ2SvjaNUI/AEg/9hoicGw-B_M/s1600/8061217928_75e3724fe9_b.jpg
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 10:32:46 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
Riv Mountain ?? Wow, what was
Chris - Those are off-the-charts gorgeous! Is that yours?
- J
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There is lots more data - Bicycle Quarterly has published numerous articles
on tire performance:
http://www.bikequarterly.com/BQ_subject_index.html
The sweet spots are real – we did a statistical analysis to make sure it
wasn't just noise in the data – but they also depend on the road surface.
John,
I have Marathon Supreme's and they are great tires...very tough and flat
resistant and much lighter than most other tires with the equivalent
toughness and flat resistance. Call it a medium weight tire with heavy
weight toughness. But, no...they are not considered supple. Not the
Cyclocross vs. Mountain (or Mountain/Expeditiion) production?
Both are about the rarest. I've heard rumors that there were less than 5
produced of the M/E - I had posted that same image of that one on the
undeveloped Gen1 page -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/#mtnframe
Here's a
In case anyone is interested,
I tried to put an SP SV-8 dynamo hub in my cart this weekend on
rivbike.com and was unable to do so; the site said that the item was
out of stock. I see there are a few other options on the Internet for
vendors, but Riv's price is competitive with them, and I like
I suggest emailing Spencer. He sends an email as soon as something comes back
in stock. I've been amazed at how quick he's gotten back to me. They also
sometimes have a link you can click to be alerted when an out of stock item
comes in. I used it once and got an email the next day because
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 8:32:46 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
Riv Mountain ?? Wow, what was that ??
Here's a Riv Mountain on Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/15750548@N04/4019037057/
I've never seen one in person but have seen maybe 2 up for sale ever. I
don't know how many
I remember seeing that mountain on Ebay some time in the last couple of
years. Very tempting.
Mark A. and his wife have Riv CX models that pre-date the Legolas, I
believe.
jim m
wc ca
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 9:22:27 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
Chris - Those are off-the-charts
Even the folding Supremes? Just wondered if that would make a difference from
the wire bead.
Thanks,
John
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I wish!!! They were either posted or linked on one of the bicycle forums
I frequent. They were too good to not save for my Riv collection of
photos.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
Chris - Those are off-the-charts gorgeous! Is that yours?
- J
We have a winner! No more calls, please!
Thanks to everyone who responded! I have multiple people who would like
the Readers/BQ's.
The 10 years of BIKE Magazines are still available. It's two full Banker's
Boxes. Will probably be donating those to either the Mountain Bike Museum
in
Beautiful bike
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On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 8:32:46 AM UTC-8, Montclair
Item BH-5 in the Flickr pics, looks like an Albatross, is that
something you would be interested in trading?
I have a couple of SA saddles, one that was ridden approximately 180
miles on a 600K (at which point I had my Dad go to my house and get my
Brooks and bring it to me) and another that has
Jan, can you post more data? The one table of data you provided seems
inconclusive to me - there might be sweet spots for rolling resistance both
below and above the so-called high pressure inflation point. Also, can
you show similar data for wider tires, to help reinforce the conclusions?
Or,
The folding bead is lighter, but it doesn't change the flex of the tire,
since it lies against the (ultra-stiff) rim.
What makes a tire supple is:
1. Casing construction. Finer threads, less rubber, etc., all make the tire
more supple. Puncture-proof belts make it less supple.
2. Tread
Hi, I have a Sella Anatomica saddle that has less than 100 mi on it. It
just doesn't work for me. $80 + shipping.
Please reply to sbauman...@earthlink.net.
Regards,
steve
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 1:26:53 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:
I have a few items that I would put forth as a trade offer
John, I'd like the Carradice if the OP doesn't want it. Sorry I can't PM from
my iPad. It would have to be shipped to 20895. If interested, please email
me, address in my profile. Thanks!
Steve
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Hey, thanks Erl! I had no idea. Im just getting back into riding, hope to be
out more in the Spring, will let you know.
Steve
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yikes, these were put into the mail and arrives in less then 5 days from
Japan to the east coast. even accounting for the 3 days of processing it
was only a week from order to delivery for a reasonable shipping amount. i
would definately order from them again!
On Monday, January 19, 2015
ah yes, good point. i am familiar with those early 80's mtb angles and
havent ever really found them to be a problem, but youre right to point out
a newish rider might not feel the same.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 12:14:24 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote:
so now that i have been doing
This is not a Rivendell event per se, but it has grown as a direct
extension of the SoCal Riv Rides that have been happening for the last four
years or so. Most everyone on this list would be comfortable and have a
good time here! Not to mention, Rivendell bikes are the perfect all-rounder
Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down to change a tire?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:06 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
Not if you run M-bars or Albastaches...or anything besides drops with
non-aero levers. Just saying...
- Andrew, Berkeley
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM
Please note, I misspoke when I said $35. When registering, register at the
$15 membership level, and then the RSR itself is $10 for members. Sorta'
make sense?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Philip Williamson
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be coming down from Santa Rosa, with a
Hope you can turn that into pen!
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like an awesome event, I'm going to try and squeak it into a work
trip. It's on the calendar in pencil for now.
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A stretched out old sock (or two) works wonders...can be stretched over the
seat, used as a glove for putting a chain back on, loose tools can be
dropped into it to keep them together and from rattling. I usually have
one with me and always have a couple for padding with my Bike Friday when
forgot all about the super bowl, the game is later in the day so shouldn't
make a difference, but hopefully it means less cars out in general.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:06:50 PM UTC-8, Irving
(boyzonthehoods.com) wrote:
Dang, I was hoping others would be interested in avoiding the
Not if you run M-bars or Albastaches...or anything besides drops with
non-aero levers. Just saying...
- Andrew, Berkeley
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Another reason why this is, in my book, a faux pas (sorry Willard!)
is- if you're running
Lay the bike on it's side.
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Bought an SV-9 from my LBS last week. It's the lightest and lowest drag
option out there right now, and was only $140. I wonder if Riv is going to
be stocking the 9?
Kevin
In Chicago
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Hi I have a few things to sell or trade for a set of 650b rims 32 hole or
pair 32/36 hole rims. A 650b rear wheel 130 spoke freewheel hub
preferable. Rear Paul racer brake. Silver mountain brake levers or 52mm
bosco handlebars. Email me for pictures shipping prices will be added to
sale
Oh yes, there is quite the flipper/layer-downer cleavage in the bike
community.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:28 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Wow, I've always been a bike flipper. Since long before I heard of
Bridgestone. And here yet again, is a Riv Blug telling me, hey,
Uh, no. I put the world on top of my seat. Phew! That's why I'm so glad I
don't have flats!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 7:07:40 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down to change a tire?
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Looks like an awesome event, I'm going to try and squeak it into a work
trip. It's on the calendar in pencil for now.
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I mounted 26 x 2.15 Big Ben's on DT Swiss XR 425 hoops that measure 23 mm
outside diameter. I inflated them to approximately 35 psi and calipered
them at 53 mm. I rode them today on mixed terrain, road with some corning
and single track. They handled really well and seemed to roll fairly
Wow, I've always been a bike flipper. Since long before I heard of Bridgestone.
And here yet again, is a Riv Blug telling me, hey, you're OK. (I actually
never knew there was a possible controversy. I've been a bike nerd all this
time and haven't known it!)
Go P-style and relax. Nice, relaxing
The original Heron Road (short reach brakes) was between the Atlantis and
before the Rambouillet. Later Herons versions were produced by Waterford
for Todd Kuzma (sp?)
-Dave
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I'd thought I'd check here first. I prefer 2nd hand items, especially bags.
Thank you. Located in Los Angeles.
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+1. First rate service. Not only did my package arrive today, but I got
timely emails informing me of the shipping status.
Anton
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:24:20 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
yikes, these were put into the mail and arrives in less then 5 days from
Japan to the east
I am also interested in some feedback regarding Groody Brothers. They are
local to me and I've considered having them redo my recently acquired
Bombadil. The paint looks beautiful in your pictures. Groody Brothers
quoted me $200-$250 for a two color powder coat, application of decals, and
a
Another reason why this is, in my book, a faux pas (sorry Willard!)
is- if you're running retrogrouch-approved non-aero brakes, you'll put
that awful crimp in the cables.
A notable example of this crime-in-progress from BITD appears on the
cover of Richard's Bicycle Book, IIRC!
=- Joe Bunik
These are a nice set of supple, folding bead road tires that have been
discontinued. Not sure how long they were sold, but I got these a few
years ago from Nashbar and used them on a racing frame with tight
clearances (which I sold off recently). A very supple, smooth riding 25mm
clincher
I keep a round bootlace in my kit, actually tying the waxed canvas wrap for
my tools to prevent rattling. If roadside repair is needed, I tie it in a
loop and snag something to suspend my bike by the saddle nose with it.
Amazing what you'll com e up with and the peculiarity of scale that
What kinda paint jobs does RBW give their bikes? Is that also powder coat?
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A good friend and riding companion turned 63 this past weekend, so we
celebrated with a 63-mile ride. Here’s the video to prove it happened:
http://youtu.be/-wPdcPWOcQY http://youtu.be/-wPdcPWOcQY
Rive content: I was riding steel/leather/fenders/canvas/wool/32mm tires, etc.
Fully Rivved out,
Yes, the Legolas was/is based on the Abele bikes. Hers is pink! :)
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 10:11:44 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
I remember seeing that mountain on Ebay some time in the last couple of
years. Very tempting.
Mark A. and his wife have Riv CX models that pre-date the Legolas,
thanks mike, that specific info helps a ton. straight gauge tubing is
something id definitely like to steer clear of. im in los angeles, so i
dont think i can take that off your hands, but i appreciate the offer.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:08:11 PM UTC-8, velomann wrote:
I have one
I'd say that heavy, lively, and geometry don't mean much to someone
with little bike experience. If it fits, is geared properly, and is
attractive to her, she'll probably love it. My daughter's first and so far
only adult bike is a Peugeot UO-18 mixte, which could be called heavy and
is not
Good luck, keep your eyes open; Things have a way of showing up. I found my
StumpJumper frame at a local shop, it was one of the staff member's bikes,
so they were just helping him clear it out.
Cheers
cc
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:56 PM, drew beckmeyer drewbeckme...@gmail.com
wrote:
thanks
Looks like the saddle question has been covered, so don't forget that
whatever's on the handlebars (computer, light, bell) will also come into
contact with the ground. Any bags need to be shut tight so the contents
don't escape (I rarely fasten the flap on my handlebar bag) and water
bottles
I'm not familiar with your model stand but have had similar experience. My
solution is using a longer bolt that extends thru the threaded part far
enough to add a nylok nut acting as a jam nut.
dougP
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:
Hi all,
I love the
Every Douglas Adams fan knows that:“A towel, [The Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galaxy] says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar
hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value. You can wrap it
around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan Beta;
Of course, if your bike has a double kickstand (one of mine does), none of
this is necessary because you can just leave the bike on the kickstand and
change either wheel. If the rear wheel is flat and the rear of the bike is
heavily loaded, you might have to toss some stuff on the handlebars to
Typical road-side repair:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/14137916598
Road-side repair with option bike repair stand:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8649157039
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 PM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote:
I keep a round bootlace in my kit, actually
Jayme - i have a Periscopa (25.4) that I'm not using. Make me an offer.
Brian
Seattle, WA
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 11:43:20 AM UTC-8, Jayme Frye wrote:
Anyone have a 80mm DirtDrop or Periscopa languishing in there parts bin
that they are willing to part with?
Cheers
Jayme
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That's what the kickstand is for. Use it and lean the bike against
something. The front wheel and kickstand hold the bike upright at an
angle, but give you room to remove the rear tire - that's the one that
always gets the flat, right??
Brian
Seattle, WA
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at
Betty Foy and Yves Gomez somewhere toward the end. Maybe between Hunqapillar
and San Marcos?
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I'm not sure where they fit in the list (maybe near the Quickbeam?), but
don't forget Glorius and Wilbury.
David Sprunger
Fargo, ND
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there's one out there somewhere, but I'll try to come up with it
from
Scratches your leather saddle to turn the bike upside down.
In light of the Blog post about this, I figured I would ask you leather
users how you prevent the scratching from happening. Any convenient ideas?
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On 01/26/2015 05:49 PM, lungimsam wrote:
Scratches your leather saddle to turn the bike upside down.
In light of the Blog post about this, I figured I would ask you
leather users how you prevent the scratching from happening. Any
convenient ideas?
You simply don't turn your bike upside
Always bring a towel.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:58:08 PM UTC-8, RJM wrote:
When I get a flat I generally flip the bike but I don't do anything to
prevent scratches to the brooks saddle. Once it's scratched, the fear of
scratching it goes away. I suppose putting a towel down would
On 01/26/2015 05:59 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I run SKS plastics on my Atlantis. There's a shortcut in my
neighborhood that I frequently take. It's a path that is thickly
paved with big woodchips. Like when they cut down a tree, it ends
up on this path. Some of the chunks are
For what you're describing I'd be looking to spend less than $150 for the
bike, even if it has components. Put the $150 'savings' into a powdercoat
in the color of her choosing... if she's like my Wife that'll make a huge
impact on the desirability and 'newness' of the bike. But recoating or
double kickstands are wonderful - whichever wheel is off is automatically
up in the air
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:01:45 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Always bring a towel.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:58:08 PM UTC-8, RJM wrote:
When I get a flat I generally flip the bike
That's $750 plus your $500 I meant to say.
~Hugh
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:25:53 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
I'd just buy her a Cheviot, totally capable tour bike plus it's super comfy.
Just buy the FF and throw your parts on it. Boom she'll love you for it!
What's that $750 + tax
I have that bike, reworked as a 2-speed city bike.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6708087263/in/set-72157628383880621/
I paid $225 on CL for it 3 or 4 years ago, and it was in nowhere near as good
condition as the one you’re looking at (judging from the pictures). I love it
–
I'm with Hugh here. Getting a Rivendell bike makes a huge difference in
feel, ride, and the pleasure of riding. She ay fall away from bikepacking,
but still bike. Why not give the grand experiment the best possible chance
of success, presuming your budget can do it if you choose for it to?
When I get a flat I generally flip the bike but I don't do anything to
prevent scratches to the brooks saddle. Once it's scratched, the fear of
scratching it goes away. I suppose putting a towel down would help, or flip
it in the grass.
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:49:03 PM UTC-6,
I run SKS plastics on my Atlantis. There's a shortcut in my neighborhood
that I frequently take. It's a path that is thickly paved with big
woodchips. Like when they cut down a tree, it ends up on this path. Some
of the chunks are prettyumchunky. Anyway, I was cutting across the
In lieu of towel, try Riv-style large bandanna. Saves mission-critical grams!
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Hi all,
I love the Ursus Jumbo kickstand I installed on the kickstand plate on my
Bombadil, but I'm getting a bit bored of re-tightening the bolt once a
week. Any smart ideas? I have a spring washer in there right now which
helped a little but didn't solve the problem completely. My bike (68
Loctite!
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I love the Ursus Jumbo kickstand I installed on the kickstand plate on my
Bombadil, but I'm getting a bit bored of re-tightening the bolt once a
week. Any smart ideas? I have a spring washer in there
I carry my tools, tube, etc., rolled up in a piece of canvas. I don’t usually
turn the bike upside down, but if I did I would put the canvas on the ground
under the seat.
Rivendell used to sell canvas squares, but I don’t see them on the web site
now. I bought some old canvas mailbags at the
I second what Chris L said regarding geometry. The repack/klunker geometry
makes for a decent cruiser, but isn't as readily adapted for drops.
More aggressive NORBA geometry came a couple years later, around 87-88.
71 head / 74 seat tube angle is characteristic NORBA. My '88 Schwinn KOM
has
I'd just buy her a Cheviot, totally capable tour bike plus it's super comfy.
Just buy the FF and throw your parts on it. Boom she'll love you for it!
What's that $750 + tax shipping. If she hates it no problem you'll be able to
sell it fairly fast. So give Riv a call they'll help you with
Steve-buddy
It doesn't look like I do have any photos, but that's easily corrected.
In the meantime, let me describe how it works with Honjos, or any similar
aluminum stayed fender, held with R-clips to your fork tip:
Step 1. remove the R-clips entirely. Put them in your parts drawer
Step 2.
I carry cheap seat covers with me both for rain (fat chance!) or for
protecting the saddle when doing repairs. Tho' come to think of it, in a
decade or more of doing this, I've never used one
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:49 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Scratches your leather
I bet Steve can figure it out from your description and existing Google
images like this one:
http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/PDW-Wide-Full-Metal-Fenders-Stay-Mounts1.jpg
I was excited about these little dudes when I first saw them. But, then I
started
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