At my computer now... sent that last message from my phone, because I
couldn't believe what I was reading. So here's a more thoughtful response:
As others have said, you probably WOULD regret getting rid of that
Bombadil. But the Clem probably will fit you better, and the Bombadil will
I'd forgotten about those - Did they get the Protovelo decals before they
were sold?
Don't have time to dig through the archives until this weekend, but great
info Liesl!
- Jim / cyclofiend.com
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:14:06 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
The
Great video as always, Eric!
Thanks for sharing that here. What a glorious day to be on a bike!
- Jim
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 8:18:44 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
Look closely, and you’ll see several Rivendells:
http://youtu.be/Q4msxyi0PK8
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Let us know what Rivendell says. I would be interested in a Clem too, but I
have my doubts that it will fit me. I am 6'5 and already out of their
recommended range. It seems to me they need to add at least 2 more sizes,
but that would probably push the cost up.
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Tom Harrop wrote:
Wow, that mixte is amazing...This one is a Riv, fits fat tyres and is $700
at the moment. It's almost too good to be true!
I can't believe it; I, too, love the Clementine mixte! I think this is the
first mixte frame that I've really liked. Perhaps it's that little frame
It might be mostly on the trainer, but I should be good for the B team.
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I am a relative newcomer to the Rivendell world. I am considering a Clem.
I don't know a lot about the Clem other than the new blog pic's, etc. Is
there any particular type of riding that this bike is meant for? Is there
any type of riding that the Clem is not meant for? Since they
Do they have a 52 or even a 48 built up and available for test ride at riv HQ?
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Garth, I'm just a bit different size than you and have been paying pretty
close attention to this bike. Based on how you describe yourself, and
what I've figured out about how the sizing just misses the mark for me, I
actually the 59 will be almost perfect for you. Made to measure,
Bill , IF you decide you actually still do want such a trade, I think I'm in.
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One size just doesn't fit all preferences(nor can it !), and that is not
a knock at anyone , it's just the truth of it ;-) .
Yes. But Rivendell has been using PBH as its fit guide since its
inception. Given the bike right now anyway is meant to be a small run
don't see a problem with Riv
I really REALLY want a Bombadil (this one's not my size), which is
ridiculous because I don't do the kind of riding it's built for. It'd be
like driving a Hummer to the grocery store. I want one anyway ;)
Joe that's not logical Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 7:40:15 PM
Anyone know the rear spacing on the Clem? 135?
Anyone know the wheel size for the Clem (size 52 medium)? 700?
Which current Riv bike model would most closely resemble the Clem? or ride
like the Clem, etc? Sam? Hunq?
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Same here. I'd totally love one of these as a city banger.
If RBW could add a 64 size - perhaps equatable to the 64 Hillborne
dimensionally - I'd be all over it. I'm sure that would mean a few
additional top tubes though.
The 59 is likely too small for me, even though I am 6'4 and technically
Dont forget the very few Renovelo frames as well.
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:31:42 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
I'd forgotten about those - Did they get the Protovelo decals before
they were sold?
Don't have time to dig through the archives until this weekend, but great
info
i've been following the progression of the clem, but have no insider
information. so, i think, from what i've read it is meant to be an all
arounder with some trail (fat tire clearance) and touring (thicker tubing,
braze-ons) capabilities. i would venture to say that it isnt meant to be a
Did they get the Protovelo decals before they were sold?
Yep! All had Protovelo decals before they were sold and clear-coat; most
sandblasted-clearcoat (like mine and Dave's) and a few had raw clear-coat.
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I think you can (and should) find some discussion of most of your questions
by digging through some old threads and the Blug archives. I think Grant
said a darkish blue, with a hint of green. And it's been described as a
non-precious, do-anything, town-ish bike, with mountain/off-road
Wow, impressive.
I've been trying to think of ways to lighten up my Atlantis. It isn't that
easy given the frame is already quite heavy, my rear hub is a Phil disc hub
(bought disc hubs for flexibility with other frames in the future, since I
presume the hub will last forever), dynamo front,
Great news. Congratulations, and have fun anticipating.
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 9:29:44 AM UTC-8, David Banzer wrote:
Put in my order! I called and they didn't seem concerned at all that it
would be too small, just would have more seatpost showing. I was also
re-assured that the
Awesome. I committed too. Will be interesting to compare notes, since
we're both looking at the same size frame but with slight reservations from
the opposite ends of the height/sizing spectrum.
Now Patrick has me thinking about getting another! I just realized that
a 'small' would fit my
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:43:53 AM UTC-7, drew beckmeyer wrote:
-what the actual chainstay length is, other than long
Hope I'm not citing wrong information here, but I think the chainstay
length matches the seat tube length.
-am i an idiot for not understanding the frame lock
I actually bought Dave Nawrocki's protobleriot off of this list a few years
back. It's my everything around town and beyond bike. Dyno setup, rear
rack with sackville panniers (forget their real name), a marks' rack/small
basket up front. Bosco bullmoose bars and thumb shifters :)
Put in my order! I called and they didn't seem concerned at all that it
would be too small, just would have more seatpost showing. I was also
re-assured that the top tube length would be plenty long.
Now to convince my gf that she needs a Clementine.
David
Chicago
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at
I'm too lazy to look up the actual frame sizes but they are: small = 26,
medium = 650B and large = 700c.
I would also say that 135 is a safe bet given that it's MTB/touring
capable.
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-6, DSat wrote:
Anyone know the rear spacing on the
-what the actual chainstay length is, other than long
the mystery/appaloosa/cheviot chainstays are 54cm (compared to 43-44.5 on
most other rivs)
-am i an idiot for not understanding the frame lock clue?
my guess is something like this:
Thanks Aaron, I was very please when I saw it and grabbed it when the
gentleman said $100.
I switched the wheels and added the racks but don't know about what is
original otherwise.
It has SunTour AR4 derailleurs front and rear and very dark green
unfinished-not shellacked cotton bar tape that
contact Andy and Modern Bike and see if he will ship to Canada
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 1:01:25 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
Friends,
up in Canada, Paul Components stuff is nearly impossible to come by. I
went to my LBS and discovered that to buy a set of touring canti's, I'd be
They released a few frames that had been damaged. They had these frames
repaired, updated, and repainted. It was partially to demonstrate how
repairable a steel frame is. They had a really cute decal set and head
tube logo.
Head badge sticker
If it just can't be made to fit, I betcha' that other than the hassle of
it, you could be pretty safe in re-selling it and not losing any money in
the process.
And re. that Clementine... wow, what a stunner! That is just one good
looking bike! If they can keep the prices down over time, that
I'm sure it's a frame lock like Liesl linked to. I believe they are also
called cafe locks. I have an ABUS one with the chain on my Quickbeam and
love it. Does not replace a proper U-lock, but it's perfect for a
shopper/townie bike.
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 9:59:39 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
Ring the bell!
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:17:06 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
Because I *clearly* need another bike, I signed up for a Clementine.
52 cm. Might be for my wonderfully patient wife, or for my daughter, or
for an auction build – but wherever it’s bound for, it will be
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it, I may put down a deposit, but I'm still a little mystified
about the seat lug which necessitates the bendy seatstays. Is it cheaper to
make the bike this way, or does Grant just like that lug and there ya go?
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 12:18:45 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
I like it, I may put down a deposit, but I'm still a little mystified
about the seat lug which necessitates the bendy seatstays. Is it cheaper to
make the bike this way, or does Grant just like that lug and there ya go?
Because I clearly need another bike, I signed up for a Clementine. 52 cm.
Might be for my wonderfully patient wife, or for my daughter, or for an auction
build - but wherever it's bound for, it will be perfect!
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I'm guessing these will be made in Taiwan-- but just a guess.
Tubing specs-- S!lver... w/o any specifics. Good, fine, and appropriate for
the task. If Grant says the swoopy chainstays aren't less rigid, I'll go
with that. (Assuming rider weight is within the specs for the bike.)
TIG welding is
The bike was originally conceived as a derailleur analogue to my '99 fixie
gofast, so I did use a ti Phil bb, light rims, and even (blush) a ti stem
binder bolt (no longer; I replaced the original stem with a Pearl that is
too long for said ti bolt). And of course there is the Flite, but that is
Sounds … uh … yummy.
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On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Evan E. evanellio...@gmail.com wrote:
You can rub it into your saddle, dab it on road rash, drink it in a cup of
tea . . .
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I like it, I may put down a deposit, but I'm still a little mystified about the
seat lug which necessitates the bendy seatstays. Is it cheaper to make the bike
this way, or does Grant just like that lug and there ya go?
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Another option for dark green cotton tape is Viva/Toshi. They have a dark,
piney green that has a slightly blue cast, much like evergreen needles. I
grabbed the last few rolls Riv had when they closed out the Viva tape in
favor of Newbaums, to add to my hoard. Jitensha in Berkeley still carries
On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 5:07:49 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
GRAFTEK
http://boulderbicycle.bike/Bicycle-Frames-and-Forks/GrafTek-58cm-NOS-Vintage-Aero-Carbon-Fiber-Road-Bike-Early-Carbon-Collectible.html
Boulder bikes has somehow gotten a hold of some NOS copies of a very early
Wonder if the final frame will have more than one bottle mount?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:42 AM, DSat sattd...@gmail.com wrote:
I am a relative newcomer to the Rivendell world. I am considering a
Clem. I don't know a lot about the Clem other than the new blog pic's,
etc. Is there any
Friends,
up in Canada, Paul Components stuff is nearly impossible to come by. I went
to my LBS and discovered that to buy a set of touring canti's, I'd be
paying $180 PER brake. After tax, over $400 for these brakes. That's just
not in the cards.
I'm wondering, is there anyone out there
ooh what is the renovelo?
On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 1:26:38 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote:
so, i purchased the little green Clem Smith Jr prototype for my fiance
(right as i was halfway through building up a 1990 trek 520 for her. will
be selling it, if anyone is interested). i, for
Haha. I thought there would be a run on these saddles. They had 13 and I
bought 3. Got my package in the mail today and it's like they came out of
a time capsule from 1992. Perfect. I checked their remaining stock and
they still have 10.
I guess I'm not the influential opinion-maker on
If you use a leather goop (such as Obenauf's or Proofide or Huberd's Shoe
Grease or Deacon Patrick's mixture of beeswax and coconut oil), consider
adding a bit of propolis paste to it. Propolis is a bee product that fights
bacteria and rot. You can rub it into your saddle, dab it on road rash,
All I can say is some lucky lady will one day be riding an orange 59er ...
Haven't yet decided who that will be, but she'll need to be tall enough,
and worthy enough...
*Yes sir... Lady Clementine... lucky indeed... *
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 2:31:22 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been seriously looking at this for my granddaughter. That is a very
beautiful frame.
David
Charlotte, NC
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 1:17:06 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
Because I *clearly* need another bike, I signed up for a Clementine.
52 cm. Might be for my wonderfully patient
Classic... Can't listen to SNA without thinking Orange Bomba... awesome bike
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 10:40:15 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Here's a photo of the Bombadil with color matched powder coated bullmooses:
PHOTO
Anyone have an old CB-0 laying around? It is the one that got away
(twice actually) from me. 56cm.
longshot
Email me offlist.
Thanks
Jason
SF,CA
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I am excited the whole family will eventually be riding Rivendells, yet
with five Clementines coming for me to build (and though I've done all the
individual jobs, I've not done a whole build), I'm wondering what I got my
self into. Perhaps the same lime pool as poor Clementine! Sardonic grin.
JEALOUS.
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:17:06 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
Because I *clearly* need another bike, I signed up for a Clementine.
52 cm. Might be for my wonderfully patient wife, or for my daughter, or
for an auction build – but wherever it’s bound for, it will be perfect!
I'd dearly love to, Andy, but the bikey funds just aren't there right now.
I hate that!
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 4:59:15 PM UTC-8, Andy.M wrote:
I just came up on some albatross that I can swap out for you Joe. and
I can deliver, just sayin...
-Andy
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at
I would venture a guess that they are making multiples of the same seat lug
for all sizes to increase the unit volumes to reduce costs. That was my
first impression when I saw the first Clems before they were painted.
Since the seatstays on all sizes would be at the same angle to the
I'm just shy of 6'5 and I rode that gold one and it fit good
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 9:12:59 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote:
Same here. I'd totally love one of these as a city banger.
If RBW could add a 64 size - perhaps equatable to the 64 Hillborne
dimensionally - I'd be all over it. I'm
Thanks Peter.
Do you know how well the Viva wears not shellacked?
If you look at the picture of my Trek the green is even darker like the
Green Grips:
http://www.greengrips.org/ecofriendly_handlebar_tape.php
I thought the very dark green would work well with the brighter metallic of
my Mercian.
Looks like so much fun! Thanks for posting!
I hope to launch into randonneuring this year. Gotta get more fit first.
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Five!? Outstanding! Is that a bushel or a peck? (Cheeky grin)
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Reading the oil suggestion put another interesting idea in mind: wax. Either
beeswax or one of the wax formulations for canvas like Fjallraven's Greenland
wax. Surely someone has waxed canvas barrage before?
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Well dang, in that case! Was the seatpost jacked way up?
Hoping to get some better data on the effective TT length but this has
piqued my interest.
KJ
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 7:49:52 PM UTC-5, Kurt Manley wrote:
I'm just shy of 6'5 and I rode that gold one and it fit good
On
This is an everybody wins scenario! I'd be more interested if I hadn't
already taken possession of (one of) Tom's Bomba's! While I haven't been
able to ride it side by side w/ my Saluki yet I will say that it rides more
nimbly than it's stout appearance would lead you to believe. My riding
I just came up on some albatross that I can swap out for you Joe. and I
can deliver, just sayin...
-Andy
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 6:47:16 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
Buy this, people. I had one for a short while in this size, and I hope
whatever I needed the money for at the time
Does this put you at 7, Deacon? Who is the current keeper of the largest fleet?
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Eric,
My back won''t allow me to do your rides. I sure wish I could. I have
ridden all the roads you ride( on shorter rides). Just keep on ridden.
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 8:18:44 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
Look closely, and you’ll see several Rivendells:
http://youtu.be/Q4msxyi0PK8
As I recall, they are Keith and Brian. Keith was on a Riv, Brian rides a
Pelican.
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On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
who's the guy with the normal shorts?
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at
My wife has a 52cm Yves Gomez
I have a 58cm Hilsen
56cm Bomba
56cm Hillborne
58cm Atlantis
So 5 Rivendells currently present in my garage
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:06:38 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote:
Does this put you at 7, Deacon? Who is the current keeper of the largest
fleet?
who's the guy with the normal shorts?
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Look closely, and you’ll see several Rivendells:
http://youtu.be/Q4msxyi0PK8
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Wow, that mixte is amazing. My better half has been looking for a step through
for ages but one of her requirements was a swoopy top tube, which ruled out the
Betty. This one is a Riv, fits fat tyres and is $700 at the moment. It's almost
too good to be true!
Just bummed there is nothing for
What a beautiful bike, Patrick! My favorite color combo. So light, I guess
the absence of derailleurs, shifters, cassette helps.
Steve
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It's not that hard-- my Rawland Stag with 2x10 derailleur gearing and large
11-32 cassette, with dynamo lighting, front rack and heavy Berthoud saddle
weighs 23.5 lb, and that's with wide 42mm tires and 52mm fenders. This also
includes little extras like bell and mud flap and three bottle
Yes, I also note that Patrick has light saddle. Love my Brooks, but it weighs
double what last road bike saddle weighed.
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high of 70 this afternoon, then it's going to drop 40 degrees by 10 pm
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
We're basically in the slop (in NJ)... Snow, thaw, rain, freezing rain,
freezing cold... making road or off-road riding sketchy... The good news is
Just buy ONE new clem, and keep your bombadill.
See? N+1 always makes more sense than N-1+2. N-1+2 means you are thinking
too hard.
Thanks for setting me straight.
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 8:47:44 PM UTC-8, DS wrote:
You don't want to get rid of that Bombadil, that Bombadil is
As a woodworker, I've always found spar varnish to have decent
waterproofing capability but it tends to sit on top of the wood surface
more than the shellac that seeps in a little more. It also tends to flake
after it sits outside for too long. All that said, I've never tried it on
bar tape.
Define fit lol !As each has their own distinct idea of it , and
rightly so .I ride a 60cm. Bombadil and find it just barely tall enough
in the front end and long enough for me(w/130mm stem) , and I'm only 6'2
with average proportions.
Specs have been absent for the Clem , as if
There are so many things that are attractive about this, especially the
Clementine. I've long wanted to get the rest of my family into Rivendells.
I am hoping the increased ride experience will help my wife want to ride
more. We are looking at getting five frames and building them up as the
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