[RBW] Re: Roadini

[Zach Duval]

There's quite a nice deal on a freshly painted one on eBay currently...

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[René Sterental]

Nothing silly about the question, not for this geek anyway... :-)

I've been a fan of Garmin units for many years, used Polar before that. The
basic units of 20 years ago left me wanting for more, whereas the latest
Garmin units, even the most basic are really good, especially with the new
sensors that don't require magnets.

What I look for mainly, are Heart Rate and cadence, I get informed on speed
and distance secondarily as part of tracking my improvements and I also
like looking at temperature to quantify how I feel. And, of course, the
gradient. I just like having that data available and correlating my
feelings and perceptions during my rides to the data.

I tried Cyclemeter on my iPhone for a while, and found the use of the
iPhone on the handlebars cumbersome. Also, if I stopped to take photos,
call or text, very often Cyclemeter would pause and I'd be unaware until
some later point when I'd realize it wasn't tracking the ride. It's still
the best iPhone app, but for me the Garmin experience is the most complete.

I have nothing against those who don't like them or just use a basic tool,
but I like the uploading of the rides to track them, look back at past
rides, plan new routes using RideWithGPS and then upload them to the Garmin.

And, I keep screens that are both cluttered with data or minimalists and
alternate as it suits my mood or a particular ride.

Garmin offers different models to suit different needs and preferences.
There are a number of new competitors that seem to be pretty good as well.

René

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Good ol' map and compass work well for this too, though require a bit more
> mindfulness. And if a phone has GPS and an offline map (I use topomaps),
> location is found in 30 s. just by turning off airplane mode, no matter how
> remote you are. So far I've used this five times, and needed it only two of
> those, and that since 2012 doing tours on great divide MTB trail,
> continental divide trail, and Colorado Trail, all of which have some
> significant head scratchers (usually of the "I know where I am, but where
> do I go from here" variety).
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> With abandon,
> Patrick
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> But again, its nice when touring, especially in remote areas with no cell
>> service, when you're trying to find your way on countryoads and you need to
>> know how far you've gone so that you can be looking out for that unmarked
>> right turn you're supposed to make...
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>> :-)
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>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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>>> I use the simplest one possible. None.
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>>> Ask yourself: what do I REALLY need to know as I ride? Does it truly
>>> matter to me that I see my speed? My average? Does any of that information
>>> help me enjoy the ride? Or does it have me riding to the numbers? Pushing
>>> myself instead of "just riding"?
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>>> The reality is that if you don't use a computer, you can still track
>>> basic info like distance and time (and thus average speed) with a clock and
>>> basic map. If you have a smart phone, or watch, you can track those in a
>>> general way on the ride.
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>>> I find technology is WAY overrated and am far happier riding without the
>>> numbers in my face.
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>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
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>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:18:51 AM UTC-6, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:

 Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many
 different cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
 Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic
 (important) features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
 But well built.
 Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
 Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?

 BBOB

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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[ascpgh]

Exactly. The closest to being killed while riding a bike was a rear flat on 
my geared disc Karate Monkey at 11 pm on a blowing, -9°F commute home. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:14:31 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
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> Satan himself has clearly designed the track end- derailleur-hangered rear 
> on my Surly Troll. Mixed with fenders, racks and  disc brakes it is 
> highly functional and curse inducing. Be careful of the deal with the devil
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>> dropout. So much easier!
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>> I had C Mathews retrofit my '03 Riv custom with a longer-than-Campy-1010 
>> dropout; and the 1010 replaced the original Riv vertical. Anyway, room for 
>> prolly 8 teeth difference.
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>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:58 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
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>>> Having seen a few comments from Grant lately, to the effect of "if you 
>>> want a single-speed, don't shift" I'd be surprised.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, perhaps the "groovy thing that none of our other 
>>> bikes has ever had," for the contemplated Roadini, is a track end dropout 
>>> with a derailleur hanger attached?  
>>>
>>> Alas, I could speculate for ever, but speculation is all it would ever 
>>> be.
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>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-6, John wrote:

 A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the 
 works for 2017.

 For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of 
 processed cow fodder.

 Has anyone here heard anything about this?

 John

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Tony DeFilippo]

45ish front, 60 rear - stampede pass el's on my Bob Jackson... And I'm around 
215lbs.

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[RBW] Re: Did a little ride in New England

[Daniel Jackson]

Someday I'd love to hear more from you about that bike as a rando machine...

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[RBW] Re: Did a little ride in New England

[Deacon Patrick]

"It's a good place to be!" wherever we are! Beautiful! Not to mention the 
black humor in the heat of the day! Here's a link that will hopefully work, 
as I couldn't get the original one to go anywhere but the photograph, 
though it looks identical to 
me. 
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2016/07/a-good-place-to-be-notes-from-boston.html

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Adventure Cyclist Reviews Joe Appaloosa

[WETH]

The August/September 2016 edition has a nice review of the Joe Appaloosa.
""What it is, is comfortable. Versatile. Resilient. Elegant."

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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Deacon Patrick]

Yeah, but the climbing is far more delicious and silent SS than on my 
Hunqapillar that I only take the Hunqapillar when I know I'm pealing off on 
the singletrack. An early spring or late autumn ride means less traffic and 
the road is beautifully silent (but greater need of better clothing).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:29 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Sounds like a great ride for gears … or at least freewheel!
>
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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
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> Och! Yes, SS v. Fixed would make a BIG difference on the descent, either 
> direction. I don't recommend fixed for Pikes Peak. The descent is a BLAST, 
> until you catch up to a line of white-knuckled lowlanders in their cars. 
> Though it is surprising how may can be passed just with gravity 
> acceleration. Sardonic grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:52:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida 
>> was even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and 
>> miles of hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping 
>> my cadence at a safe level). 
>>
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[RBW] Did a little ride in New England

[Iron Rider]

http://eprider.blogspot.com/2016/07/a-good-place-to-be-notes-from-boston.html 












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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Eric Norris]

Sounds like a great ride for gears … or at least freewheel!

--Eric Norris
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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
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> Och! Yes, SS v. Fixed would make a BIG difference on the descent, either 
> direction. I don't recommend fixed for Pikes Peak. The descent is a BLAST, 
> until you catch up to a line of white-knuckled lowlanders in their cars. 
> Though it is surprising how may can be passed just with gravity acceleration. 
> Sardonic grin.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:52:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
> Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida was 
> even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and miles of 
> hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping my cadence 
> at a safe level). 
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Deacon Patrick]

Och! Yes, SS v. Fixed would make a BIG difference on the descent, either 
direction. I don't recommend fixed for Pikes Peak. The descent is a BLAST, 
until you catch up to a line of white-knuckled lowlanders in their cars. 
Though it is surprising how may can be passed just with gravity 
acceleration. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:52:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
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> Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida 
> was even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and 
> miles of hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping 
> my cadence at a safe level). 
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Eric Norris]

Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida was 
even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and miles of 
hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping my cadence at 
a safe level). 

Pikes Peak looks fun. I hope to try that sometime.

--Eric Norris
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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
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> Here's my furtherest ride up Pikes Peak (I did two rides, never made the 
> top). Average grade of 8-9%, regular boutes of 10%, and one wee hair pin turn 
> with stunning headwinds above tree line at 15%. I used my bail out rear of 
> 22t. Grin. After doing this, everything is sane. 
>  
> 
> 
> Monarch Pass is brutal for it length of climb and the volume of high speed 
> traffic including high % of RV's, tourists, and semi trucks. Well done, Eric! 
> My brain has blown up just trying to ride the Monarch Crest trail AWAY from 
> the top of Monarch crest, because of the traffic noise. My poor family drove 
> us 2 hours just for me to get messed up with all my bikepacking gear, turn 
> around and go home. Talk about disappointed daughters who didn't get to go 
> bikepacking. That is a busy corridor!
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
> 
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:07:43 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
> Quickbeam on Mt Diablo? Barely crazy. Quickbeam over Monarch Pass? *That’s* 
> crazy!
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_Pass 
> 
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>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
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>> I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and only 
>> a crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've seen a 
>> Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Rutter]

An E.B.B. would allow for some degree of geometry tinker-ability for those so 
inclined, in addition to being a clean single speed solution...

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Re: [RBW] Ibex Sale

[cyclotourist]

Thanks, Eric!

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Deacon Patrick]

Here's my furtherest ride up Pikes Peak (I did two rides, never made the 
top). Average grade of 8-9%, regular boutes of 10%, and one wee hair pin 
turn with stunning headwinds above tree line at 15%. I used my bail out 
rear of 22t. Grin. After doing this, everything is sane. 



Monarch Pass is brutal for it length of climb and the volume of high speed 
traffic including high % of RV's, tourists, and semi trucks. Well done, 
Eric! My brain has blown up just trying to ride the Monarch Crest trail 
AWAY from the top of Monarch crest, because of the traffic noise. My poor 
family drove us 2 hours just for me to get messed up with all my 
bikepacking gear, turn around and go home. Talk about disappointed 
daughters who didn't get to go bikepacking. That is a busy corridor!

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:07:43 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Quickbeam on Mt Diablo? Barely crazy. Quickbeam over Monarch Pass? 
> *That’s* crazy!
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_Pass
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  
> wrote:
>
> I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and 
> only a crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've 
> seen a Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).
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[RBW] choco bars riding positions

[Joe Bernard]

I have one each on different bikes, without much of a preference. The Chocos 
have more reach-back, and the down-slope curves are useful for a forward 
position. My experience with that one is negligible, though..I tend l to ride 
both bars at the rear grip area. Where the Choco-Moose  (that's such a weird 
name) blows away the Alba is looks: Put in on a bike where you're looking for 
max looks points. 

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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Eric Norris]

Quickbeam on Mt Diablo? Barely crazy. Quickbeam over Monarch Pass? *That’s* 
crazy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_Pass

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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and only a 
> crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've seen a 
> Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).
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[RBW] Re: New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[dougP]

Scroll up to the top of the list for a sticky with "Simplebeam" in the 
title.  This idea re-surfaces from time to time.  

dougP

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:18:24 PM UTC-7, John wrote:
>
> A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the 
> works for 2017.
>
> For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of 
> processed cow fodder.
>
> Has anyone here heard anything about this?
>
> John
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Bill Lindsay]

I hope they use proper and correct vertical dropouts in the rear, as all 
bikes of all descriptions should have.  In order to make it single 
speed-able, they should use the eccentric BB from the HubbaHubbaH tandem!  

You're welcome!

Bill cutting-the-Gordian-knot-with-Occams-razor Lindsay

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:40:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Oh, please don't use track ends! Use a superexcessivelylong "horizontal" 
> dropout. So much easier!
>
> I had C Mathews retrofit my '03 Riv custom with a longer-than-Campy-1010 
> dropout; and the 1010 replaced the original Riv vertical. Anyway, room for 
> prolly 8 teeth difference.
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:58 PM, iamkeith  > wrote:
>
>> Having seen a few comments from Grant lately, to the effect of "if you 
>> want a single-speed, don't shift" I'd be surprised.
>>
>> On the other hand, perhaps the "groovy thing that none of our other bikes 
>> has ever had," for the contemplated Roadini, is a track end dropout with a 
>> derailleur hanger attached?  
>>
>> Alas, I could speculate for ever, but speculation is all it would ever be.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-6, John wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the 
>>> works for 2017.
>>>
>>> For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of 
>>> processed cow fodder.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here heard anything about this?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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[RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Joe Bernard]

I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and only a 
crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've seen a 
Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).

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[RBW] Re: New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Matt B.]

Well the quickbeam wide range 4 speed came stock with integrated digital 
shifting, with all internally routed muscles, though some people downgraded 
them to single speed.


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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Jeff Lesperance]

Satan himself has clearly designed the track end- derailleur-hangered rear
on my Surly Troll. Mixed with fenders, racks and  disc brakes it is
highly functional and curse inducing. Be careful of the deal with the devil

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Oh, please don't use track ends! Use a superexcessivelylong "horizontal"
> dropout. So much easier!
>
> I had C Mathews retrofit my '03 Riv custom with a longer-than-Campy-1010
> dropout; and the 1010 replaced the original Riv vertical. Anyway, room for
> prolly 8 teeth difference.
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:58 PM, iamkeith  > wrote:
>
>> Having seen a few comments from Grant lately, to the effect of "if you
>> want a single-speed, don't shift" I'd be surprised.
>>
>> On the other hand, perhaps the "groovy thing that none of our other bikes
>> has ever had," for the contemplated Roadini, is a track end dropout with a
>> derailleur hanger attached?
>>
>> Alas, I could speculate for ever, but speculation is all it would ever be.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-6, John wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the
>>> works for 2017.
>>>
>>> For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of
>>> processed cow fodder.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here heard anything about this?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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[RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Deacon Patrick]

Good ol' map and compass work well for this too, though require a bit more 
mindfulness. And if a phone has GPS and an offline map (I use topomaps), 
location is found in 30 s. just by turning off airplane mode, no matter how 
remote you are. So far I've used this five times, and needed it only two of 
those, and that since 2012 doing tours on great divide MTB trail, 
continental divide trail, and Colorado Trail, all of which have some 
significant head scratchers (usually of the "I know where I am, but where 
do I go from here" variety).

With abandon,
Patrick

But again, its nice when touring, especially in remote areas with no cell 
> service, when you're trying to find your way on countryoads and you need to 
> know how far you've gone so that you can be looking out for that unmarked 
> right turn you're supposed to make...
>
> :-)
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I use the simplest one possible. None.
>>
>> Ask yourself: what do I REALLY need to know as I ride? Does it truly 
>> matter to me that I see my speed? My average? Does any of that information 
>> help me enjoy the ride? Or does it have me riding to the numbers? Pushing 
>> myself instead of "just riding"?
>>
>> The reality is that if you don't use a computer, you can still track 
>> basic info like distance and time (and thus average speed) with a clock and 
>> basic map. If you have a smart phone, or watch, you can track those in a 
>> general way on the ride.
>>
>> I find technology is WAY overrated and am far happier riding without the 
>> numbers in my face.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:18:51 AM UTC-6, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
>>> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
>>> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
>>> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
>>> But well built. 
>>> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
>>> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>>>
>>> BBOB
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, please don't use track ends! Use a superexcessivelylong "horizontal"
dropout. So much easier!

I had C Mathews retrofit my '03 Riv custom with a longer-than-Campy-1010
dropout; and the 1010 replaced the original Riv vertical. Anyway, room for
prolly 8 teeth difference.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:58 PM, iamkeith  wrote:

> Having seen a few comments from Grant lately, to the effect of "if you
> want a single-speed, don't shift" I'd be surprised.
>
> On the other hand, perhaps the "groovy thing that none of our other bikes
> has ever had," for the contemplated Roadini, is a track end dropout with a
> derailleur hanger attached?
>
> Alas, I could speculate for ever, but speculation is all it would ever be.
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-6, John wrote:
>>
>> A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the
>> works for 2017.
>>
>> For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of
>> processed cow fodder.
>>
>> Has anyone here heard anything about this?
>>
>> John
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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[ascpgh]

I'm 190 and running my SP Els at about 60-65 on Synergy rims when I pump 
them up, less as the week goes or until they feel too soft. Mostly sidewall 
squish if I turn sharply low speed or the odd thing or edge in the wheel's 
path that makes me feel a thud.

Truly remarkable addition to my Rambouillet, Paul Racers facilitating them 
under fender. I'm going out now for a hot ride to three of the area 
cemeteries that have very nice monuments. The roads in those are not the 
smooth asphalt of roads and the terrain is certainly up and down. The 
Compass tires really are a welcome improvement and benefit to my durability 
on the bike.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people 
> are running these tires at?
>
> I don't have much experience with supple 700c tires so wondering.
> My only extensive experience on 700c is 120psi 25mm wide Gatorskins and 
> Armadillos.
> Don't know what to do with the Rivish 700c tires.
> I weigh 170.
> Road riding. No loads. I want max cush.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Ryan Fleming]

actually, my old Peugeot PX-10 is my wonderful bike that  does really look 
like a beater with its crappy 40 year-old paint;  it's my stealth bike

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 4:04:24 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> I purchased one of the demo Roadeos earlier this year. 
>
> I'm not a roadie (I was a mountain biker as a kid and have always been 
> more of a bum around for fun / transportation type of bike guy). But I'm 
> also fairly thin and wirey for my height, so I liked the Roadeo's lighter 
> tubing and a bit of forgiveness in the frame. My longer distance frame 
> before the Roadeo was a custom-built Surly Cross Check, which I probably 
> only took it on a total of five or six rides. I know people love them, but 
> between the stout frame, touring wheelset, and short head tube, it was a 
> pretty uncomfortable bike for me.
>
> The Roadeo, on the other hand, has been wonderful. Its ride is smooth and 
> lively (which is a tough combo to find). I actually have it outfitted with 
> VO Porteur bars at the moment. I've just never been able to get into 
> drops...though I'm trying. One thing I've found is that is is much more 
> than simply a dedicated road bike. Mine sees its share of dirt and gravel. 
> And with Jack Browns or 35mm cross tires, it's awesome! I probably don't 
> ride it as much as I should, as most of my rides are city commutes/errands 
> which I do on my SimpleOne (through stickers and highly beusaged parts, I'm 
> creating a wonderful bike that looks like a beater to deter thieves...very 
> much like that old SNL bit for the urban luxury car). 
>
> Eric
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I guess I have sort of the same issue with my 2001 custom Road which is 
>> fenderless right now. I won't commute to work on it because where I work, 
>> there's quite the rogue's gallery of people  lurking around "shopping" for 
>>  bikes and/or parts. But though I'm certainly not a fast clubby rider, I do 
>> enjoy the road bike with the drop bars (Nitto "Dream" bars), especially 
>> with those dreamy TRP levers  and now new to me Compass 32mm extra tires 
>> for longer (up to 50 mile) rides. Anyway, from what I've read, the Roadeo 
>> is , like my old custom, purely a road bike with   the predictable handling 
>> of all Rivs and maybe that's its best intended use...granted it's not gonna 
>> freak out on a little gravel. I would opt for B, but if you feel you don't 
>> ride it enough , you want to commute, you don't have to bring the kitchen 
>> sink with you and you have a secure parking spot, go for A. You have a 
>> beautiful bike there; if you get rid of it, I think you might feel a little 
>> seller's remorse.
>>
>> Myself, I'm not ready to get rid of my road bike yet because it is 
>> fast,comfortable and  light riding (No, I don't know how much it weighs,but 
>> it rides light :) )
>>
>> Ryan Fleming, Winnipeg
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's 
>>> gorgeous, wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my 
>>> previous gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed 
>>> Ergopower.
>>>
>>> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
>>> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
>>> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>>>
>>> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or 
>>> rained recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or 
>>> myself) dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
>>> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
>>> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
>>> can easily carry the load.
>>>
>>> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
>>> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
>>> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
>>> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
>>> roadie yet.  :)
>>>
>>> So, I should:
>>> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used 
>>> for commuting?
>>> or,
>>> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take 
>>> a day off from the gravel/trails?
>>>
>>>
>>> ​
>>> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
>>> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>>>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
>>> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
>>> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
>>> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
>>> 
>>>  (from 
>>> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
>>> + added a Gilles Berthoud 

Re: [RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Steve Palincsar]

The Stampede Pass is a 32mm tire.  You're going to need a good bit more 
pressure with a tire that narrow than you will for a 38mm tire.



On 07/26/2016 02:29 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:
I'm 220 lbs, and I use 45-50 psi front and 55-60 psi rear in my 38 mm 
supple tires (Lierre, Pari Moto, et al).
I start with the "15% tire drop" method, as developed by Frank Berto 
and further by Jan Heine 
.  Unfortunately, 
Berto's charts only went up to 37 mm tires, so you have to 
extrapolate/experiment with wider tires. Calculator here 
.
I'll add 5-10 psi if I'm fully loaded.  I'll drop 5-10 psi if I'm 
riding more gravel/trail/off-road.


I've found that 38 mm tires feel squirrely to me around 30-35 psi.

I ran 85 front / 100 rear on my Cerf blue 700 x 26 tires.
I run 60 front / 75 rear on my 700 x 32 Gravel King tires.
I run 30 front / 35 rear on my 26 x 2.1" Thunder Burts.
I run 7 front / 8 rear on my 26 x 4.6" fat bike tires.


On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Ron Mc > wrote:


210 lbs, running Barlows on my upright at 60psi rear, 40 psi front.
On my semi-upright, running Stampede at 65psi rear, 55 psi front.

Mostly concentrate on not shocking the rims and handling.  I have
some big hills to go down.  I've also noticed another squishiness
that can develop at high speed, when centrifugal forces are
stretching tje tire out and they don't have sufficient pressure
for good lateral stiffness, but I only see that if I let the
pressures drift a little below the numbers above.



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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Eric Floden]

220 lbs. 60R 55F on my MEC Cote...seems fine with enough front pressure
under hard braking and on rough pavement

ef
Vancouver BC

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[RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Gum N Nuts]

I too am curious about this, I typically just use strava on my phone which 
is mostly fine if I'm going to end up at home at the end of the ride. I 
realize it has a poor reputation for encouraging roadies to act rudely on 
the path to beat certain times but I just use it for keeping track of my 
miles traveled for most of the riding I do. It can eat up the battery on 
longer rides (I use a dynamo hub / luxos u to mitigate this) and it's 
pretty inconvenient on tour outside the most ideal circumstances even with 
the dynamo. Do most people use some kind of accessory gps like a garmin 
when they want to track such infos?

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:18:51 AM UTC-7, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:
>
> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built. 
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>
> BBOB
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Eric Karnes]

I purchased one of the demo Roadeos earlier this year. 

I'm not a roadie (I was a mountain biker as a kid and have always been more 
of a bum around for fun / transportation type of bike guy). But I'm also 
fairly thin and wirey for my height, so I liked the Roadeo's lighter tubing 
and a bit of forgiveness in the frame. My longer distance frame before the 
Roadeo was a custom-built Surly Cross Check, which I probably only took it 
on a total of five or six rides. I know people love them, but between the 
stout frame, touring wheelset, and short head tube, it was a pretty 
uncomfortable bike for me.

The Roadeo, on the other hand, has been wonderful. Its ride is smooth and 
lively (which is a tough combo to find). I actually have it outfitted with 
VO Porteur bars at the moment. I've just never been able to get into 
drops...though I'm trying. One thing I've found is that is is much more 
than simply a dedicated road bike. Mine sees its share of dirt and gravel. 
And with Jack Browns or 35mm cross tires, it's awesome! I probably don't 
ride it as much as I should, as most of my rides are city commutes/errands 
which I do on my SimpleOne (through stickers and highly beusaged parts, I'm 
creating a wonderful bike that looks like a beater to deter thieves...very 
much like that old SNL bit for the urban luxury car). 

Eric

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I guess I have sort of the same issue with my 2001 custom Road which is 
> fenderless right now. I won't commute to work on it because where I work, 
> there's quite the rogue's gallery of people  lurking around "shopping" for 
>  bikes and/or parts. But though I'm certainly not a fast clubby rider, I do 
> enjoy the road bike with the drop bars (Nitto "Dream" bars), especially 
> with those dreamy TRP levers  and now new to me Compass 32mm extra tires 
> for longer (up to 50 mile) rides. Anyway, from what I've read, the Roadeo 
> is , like my old custom, purely a road bike with   the predictable handling 
> of all Rivs and maybe that's its best intended use...granted it's not gonna 
> freak out on a little gravel. I would opt for B, but if you feel you don't 
> ride it enough , you want to commute, you don't have to bring the kitchen 
> sink with you and you have a secure parking spot, go for A. You have a 
> beautiful bike there; if you get rid of it, I think you might feel a little 
> seller's remorse.
>
> Myself, I'm not ready to get rid of my road bike yet because it is 
> fast,comfortable and  light riding (No, I don't know how much it weighs,but 
> it rides light :) )
>
> Ryan Fleming, Winnipeg
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's 
>> gorgeous, wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my 
>> previous gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed 
>> Ergopower.
>>
>> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
>> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
>> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>>
>> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or rained 
>> recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or myself) 
>> dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
>> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
>> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
>> can easily carry the load.
>>
>> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
>> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
>> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
>> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
>> roadie yet.  :)
>>
>> So, I should:
>> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used for 
>> commuting?
>> or,
>> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
>> day off from the gravel/trails?
>>
>>
>> ​
>> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
>> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
>> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
>> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
>> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
>> 
>>  (from 
>> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
>> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
>> 
>>  
>> (purchased from a listmember).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  wrote:
>>
>>> Don, I believe I've got one of 

[RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Hunter Ellis]

I find that they're helpful when touring, and I've used a wireless Cateye 
Padrone for the last 400 miles. It has huge numbers and all the good 
features like: time (like the actual time it is in the world), total 
distance, MPH, odometer, and time elapsed. Time elapsed and odometer are 
not really necessary, but the large, easily readable numbers are nice. It 
attached to the stem instead of the handlebars, which I like, and you just 
press on the entire unit to change display/function.

The only trouble I've had is it will sometimes reset itself, deleting your 
current ride time and distance. I think I'm doing something wrong--it 
usually does that if I'm stopped at a stoplight/etc for a long time. But if 
that happens, its a good lesson in the impermanence of things and also the 
fact that, like Deacon says, it doesn't really matter in the end.

But again, its nice when touring, especially in remote areas with no cell 
service, when you're trying to find your way on countryoads and you need to 
know how far you've gone so that you can be looking out for that unmarked 
right turn you're supposed to make...

:-)

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I use the simplest one possible. None.
>
> Ask yourself: what do I REALLY need to know as I ride? Does it truly 
> matter to me that I see my speed? My average? Does any of that information 
> help me enjoy the ride? Or does it have me riding to the numbers? Pushing 
> myself instead of "just riding"?
>
> The reality is that if you don't use a computer, you can still track basic 
> info like distance and time (and thus average speed) with a clock and basic 
> map. If you have a smart phone, or watch, you can track those in a general 
> way on the ride.
>
> I find technology is WAY overrated and am far happier riding without the 
> numbers in my face.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:18:51 AM UTC-6, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:
>>
>> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
>> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
>> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
>> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
>> But well built. 
>> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
>> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>>
>> BBOB
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB: MKS urban pedals

[Will Ashe]

I have a pair in my closet. They have metal clips attached and are in great 
condition. Still interested?

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[RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Eric Karnes]

Totally agree! In my experience, the two best up(down?)grades I ever made 
to my bike were:

1. Ditching the cyclocomputer
2. Ditching the clipless pedals

That said, If you're training, want to track a fitness progress, etc., I 
totally get it. And I have a lot of friends who use them. If you can live 
without a wireless, I have an old CatEye that I'll likely never use again. 
It's yours if you cover the shipping.

Eric



On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:07:14 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I use the simplest one possible. None.
>
> Ask yourself: what do I REALLY need to know as I ride? Does it truly 
> matter to me that I see my speed? My average? Does any of that information 
> help me enjoy the ride? Or does it have me riding to the numbers? Pushing 
> myself instead of "just riding"?
>
> The reality is that if you don't use a computer, you can still track basic 
> info like distance and time (and thus average speed) with a clock and basic 
> map. If you have a smart phone, or watch, you can track those in a general 
> way on the ride.
>
> I find technology is WAY overrated and am far happier riding without the 
> numbers in my face.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:18:51 AM UTC-6, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:
>>
>> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
>> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
>> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
>> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
>> But well built. 
>> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
>> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>>
>> BBOB
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[iamkeith]

Having seen a few comments from Grant lately, to the effect of "if you want 
a single-speed, don't shift" I'd be surprised.

On the other hand, perhaps the "groovy thing that none of our other bikes 
has ever had," for the contemplated Roadini, is a track end dropout with a 
derailleur hanger attached?  

Alas, I could speculate for ever, but speculation is all it would ever be.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-6, John wrote:
>
> A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the 
> works for 2017.
>
> For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of 
> processed cow fodder.
>
> Has anyone here heard anything about this?
>
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Garth]

 

 






   





ahahaahahha . the difference between "science/practicality" and 
"zen/religion" or whatever you want to call them, is nothing, absolutely 
nothing !

   Both nonsense !

  "Oh wait ... but I'm different !"

   Uhhh, why yes, you are , just live everyone else is "different" !  All 
the same "different" . ahahahahahah !  





On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 3:05:09 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote

I thought it was one of these:
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: F.S. 54cm. Blue Rambouillet frame and fork

[Leslie]

Hey, I know where that frame came through!   My Rambouillet, I picked up at 
MSL in Bristol VA, too.  

My green Ram, has the mid-fork and seatstay braze-ons; I know only the late 
green Rams had the mid-fork, but I think all of the green ones had the 
seatstay braze-ons. Maybe they started adding them before the switch from 
blue to green, I'd guess





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>
> Selling a lovely immaculate 54cm. blue Rambouillet frame and fork. Asking 
> price 1,250.00 plus shipping costs tbt and carefully boxed up by my local 
> bicyle mechanic in BALTIMORE. ALso included is some touch up paint. 

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[RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[Lungimsam]

"Simply Quick"?
"One Beam"?

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Ryan Fleming]

Oh dear, sorry to hear this and hope you heal fast

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 3:17:16 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> All I know is that I'm typing this response with my left arm in a sling 
> with a separated shoulder from cornering on a downhill with just barely not 
> enough pressure in my Barlow Pass 38mm extra lights.  When I rode 23mm 
> tires on my old go fast bikes I was compulsive about keeping my tires rock 
> hard. I love the ride of Compass extra light tires. I started with Stampede 
> Pass on my Hilsen and have since gone to Barlow Pass, with no loss of 
> performance. And I seek out rumble strips on the side of the road just 
> because it is so amazing to float over them. Jan had a post awhile back 
> about running lower pressure so I've been riding as low as I can before the 
> tires get squishy on corners. But usually I check the pressure with a 
> squeeze, only using a gauge on my floor pump when I'm adding air.  I think 
> I ride my Stampedes on the Roadeo at around 50psi while I can get by with 
> 35-40 on the Barlows on the AHH. But that crash when my tire squirmed out 
> from under me really sucked!

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[RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

[John]

A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the 
works for 2017.

For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of 
processed cow fodder.

Has anyone here heard anything about this?

John

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[RBW] What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

All I know is that I'm typing this response with my left arm in a sling with a 
separated shoulder from cornering on a downhill with just barely not enough 
pressure in my Barlow Pass 38mm extra lights.  When I rode 23mm tires on my old 
go fast bikes I was compulsive about keeping my tires rock hard. I love the 
ride of Compass extra light tires. I started with Stampede Pass on my Hilsen 
and have since gone to Barlow Pass, with no loss of performance. And I seek out 
rumble strips on the side of the road just because it is so amazing to float 
over them. Jan had a post awhile back about running lower pressure so I've been 
riding as low as I can before the tires get squishy on corners. But usually I 
check the pressure with a squeeze, only using a gauge on my floor pump when I'm 
adding air.  I think I ride my Stampedes on the Roadeo at around 50psi while I 
can get by with 35-40 on the Barlows on the AHH. But that crash when my tire 
squirmed out from under me really sucked!

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[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[LBleriot]

I bought my Roadeo after my first orange Ram was smooshed (with me on it) 
by a careless driver.  It's so nice that I keep it for fast Sunday rides. 
 My everyday rides are on a replacement orange Ram and the proto Rom.  I 
run all of them on Compass 30-32 tires and slightly different drive trains 
and cockpits just to mix it up a bit.  All three are the bees' knees of 
road bikes.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:47:52 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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[RBW] Re: F.S. 54cm. Blue Rambouillet frame and fork

[Kieran J]

It appears to have mid-seatstay hourglass bosses, so the paint job must be 
post-stock.
Cool frame!

KJ


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>
> Selling a lovely immaculate 54cm. blue Rambouillet frame and fork. Asking 
> price 1,250.00 plus shipping costs tbt and carefully boxed up by my local 
> bicyle mechanic in BALTIMORE. ALso included is some touch up paint. 

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Re: [RBW] F.S. 54cm. Blue Rambouillet frame and fork

[Rod Oconnor]

I'm not sure when it was made but the  Rambo came from a small builder named 
Toyo in Japan. The hand painted lugs were done state side and do add a lovely 
aesthetic to an already gorgeous, flawless frame.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:
> 
> I am guessing the Hilsen headtube lugs means it is a more current version? 
> Anyone know?
> 
> Is that the original paint? Looks great! Especially the lug lining. Very cool!
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[RBW] choco bars riding positions

[dstein]

I feel like there have been a few threads on this but want to ask again for 
any new thoughts on these. How are the choco's after you've had them for a 
few months? Do you find you can ride in the bend for aero positions, or is 
it fairly limited in use like w/ the Albatross? If you've ridden both the 
choco and albatross, which do you prefer?

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Re: [RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Deacon Patrick]

Only when I'm roamin'. 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I thought it was one of these:
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Here's a close-up of my cycling computer:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/27882258535/in/dateposted-public/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 10:07:14 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I use the simplest one possible. None.
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> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[Justin August]

I loved my Bleriot. I love my Saluki even more. I definitely should have held 
onto it instead of selling it. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[William deRosset]

Dear Lungimsam,

I am at 11 stone/70 kg, and pump those tires to 4 bar or so, front and rear, 
and only air them (32-622) up when they get squirmy. It takes a while with 
butyl tubes. 

Best,

Will
William M deRosset
Fort Collins CO

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

More specifically, as a data point, on my Stampede-equipped bicycle (and my 
other 30-32mm tires) I generally pump to about 60 rear, 55 front to start, 
and let it go down from there. I weigh about 170, and don't carry more that 
2-8 pounds on these skinny tire bikes, if that. I suppose 30mm (the 
measured size of my Stampedes on the current rim) is cushy compared to a 
25mm, but I would reserve that adjective for tires 38mm and up. ATMO, of 
course.


On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people 
> are running these tires at?
>
>
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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I would start with this and then experiment in either direction based on 
your actual experience on your bike. Rim size may be somewhat of a factor, 
but don't let a skinny rim keep you from running a plump tire--might just 
have to add a couple pounds more pressure on the low end. It's not really 
an exact science. I assume my gauge is somewhat accurate, but I then let 
the tires go until I think, hey, it's getting a little bouncy. Or squirmy. 
Or too mushy. Or whatever. I'll pump in some air. Anyway, less is generally 
more.



On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people 
> are running these tires at?
>
> I don't have much experience with supple 700c tires so wondering.
> My only extensive experience on 700c is 120psi 25mm wide Gatorskins and 
> Armadillos.
> Don't know what to do with the Rivish 700c tires.
> I weigh 170.
> Road riding. No loads. I want max cush.
>

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[David Hallerman]

The Padrone has a bigger screen than the Micro Wireless, but uses the same 
mount and transmitter.

You can simply swap out one for the other.

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 2:42 PM, 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not sure what the difference is between the Cateye Padrone and Cateye Micro 
> Wireless, but I have been using the Micro Wireless on 2 bikes and they work 
> great. I strap it to the top tube to pick uip the rear wheel for the one bike 
> I use on a trainer and also ride outside. Cateye computers seem to be the 
> easiest to set up for me.
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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[Joe Bernard]

Bleriots are great bikes with awesome graphics - I had one - but honestly you 
can equal or beat it with a Sam or Appaloosa. Maybe not at the Bleriits 
original price, but that was a good 10 years ago (and there are used Sams 
around).

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Tim Gavin]

I use Strava on my iPhone to track my rides.  But I don't refer to it en
route.  Also, Strava/GPS seems to drain the battery significantly, so it's
not a good solution for very long rides.  (Although, I've solved the
battery problem with the USB charge off my Luxos U).

I use a simple cyclometer on most of my bikes, usually a sub-$50 Cateye
computer.

I prefer to have a cyclometer for the following reasons:
1) distance, for navigation.  If I'm on an organized ride with
mile/distance markers, my cyclometer can tell me where I am.  That's a nice
mental boost, especially in the back half of a very long/hot day.
2) time of day.  I usually keep the clock display up.  Another aid to
mental orientation, and a reminder of whether I'm on schedule or not
(important when trying to get to a campsite before dark).
3) speed, for entertainment/encouragement.  I'm a big fella so I bomb down
hills.  It's fun to see my high score.  Also, I have a tendency to settle
into a slowish 13-14 mph road speed once I'm tired, and the cyclometer
reminds me to pick up the pace a bit (back to 16-18 mph if I can).

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Tim Butterfield 
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> My currently cycle computer is my iPhone 5S on a QuadLock mount running
> the Wahoo Fitness app and the Wahoo Tickr X and Blue SC sensors.  I do not
> often refer to it while riding, but I do like having the data available for
> after ride comparisons.  (This ride felt harder.  Was it?)  I also like
> that the Wahoo Fitness app supports uploading data to a wide variety of web
> sites.
>
> As much as I like this combination, I'm a bit torn about whether to use it
> on my soon to arrive AHH.  I will be getting a Garmin Varia Rear View Radar
> tail light for that bike and I'm not yet sure if I want to use that with
> just the radar read out display or maybe connect it to a Garmin cycling
> computer.  I'm currently leaning towards using it with an Garmin Edge 820.
> If you want reviews on a variety of devices, check out the
> http://www.dcrainmaker.com/ site.
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle <
> gentlemanonabicy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different
>> cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
>> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important)
>> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
>> But well built.
>> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
>> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>>
>> BBOB
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

['Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not sure what the difference is between the Cateye Padrone and Cateye Micro 
Wireless, but I have been using the Micro Wireless on 2 bikes and they work 
great. I strap it to the top tube to pick uip the rear wheel for the one 
bike I use on a trainer and also ride outside. Cateye computers seem to be 
the easiest to set up for me.

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Re: [RBW] F.S. 54cm. Blue Rambouillet frame and fork

[Lungimsam]

I am guessing the Hilsen headtube lugs means it is a more current version? 
Anyone know?

Is that the original paint? Looks great! Especially the lug lining. Very cool!

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Ryan Fleming]

I have to say I'm still new to Compass tires. My other data point is the 26 
X 1.5 McClure Pass tires I'm running on my X0-1 and all-rounder. I feel 
they're a bit too squishy at around 50psi; I think 60-65 PSI are likely 
going to turn out to be the sweet spot on these. That being said, they're 
definitely quality tires

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:10:50 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> 210 lbs, running Barlows on my upright at 60psi rear, 40 psi front. 
> On my semi-upright, running Stampede at 65psi rear, 55 psi front.  
>
> Mostly concentrate on not shocking the rims and handling.  I have some big 
> hills to go down.  I've also noticed another squishiness that can develop 
> at high speed, when centrifugal forces are stretching tje tire out and they 
> don't have sufficient pressure for good lateral stiffness, but I only see 
> that if I let the pressures drift a little below the numbers above.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle and the pool noodle

[Lungimsam]

Just ride book  advocates using the foam from a Rivendell bike box for this 
too. But then says check local factories who make foam. So sounds like any foam 
will do. Then drill holes and lace up the saddle flaps.
The illustration calls it "firm yet compliant" foam, or something like that.
Riv might even have a youtube vid about it. Idk.

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[RoadieRyan]

You are in fact lucky sir! I missed the boat on the Bleriot and it haunts 
me to this day... ok maybe not haunt but it does bum me out and I hope that 
someday a 57 or 59 comes my way.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 4:20:34 AM UTC-7, islaysteve wrote:
>
> And, as someone recently asked on the facebook page for this group:  Is 
> there any love for the Bleriot?  This was the bike that resulted from a 
> collaboration between RBW and QBP, and was available both from Rivendell 
> and any QBP dealer from, I believe, 2006 to 2008.  Dealers could also offer 
> it as a complete, I'm not sure if RBW did.  It was brazed in Taiwan and 
> easily takes Pair-Motos and even wider tires. I refer you to cyclofiend's 
> excellent webpage on the Bleriot: 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot/index.html.  
>
> I count myself very lucky to have acquired a Bleriot several years ago and 
> it may very well be the last bike I buy.  It fits me perfectly, rides 
> great, inspires confidence, and is also "lugged to the teeth."  I will be 
> interested to see the Roadini and to compare it with the Bleriot.  Cheers, 
> Steve
> (in heat-wave Maryland)
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Tim Gavin]

I'm 220 lbs, and I use 45-50 psi front and 55-60 psi rear in my 38 mm
supple tires (Lierre, Pari Moto, et al).
I start with the "15% tire drop" method, as developed by Frank Berto and
further by Jan Heine .
Unfortunately, Berto's charts only went up to 37 mm tires, so you have to
extrapolate/experiment with wider tires.  Calculator here
.
I'll add 5-10 psi if I'm fully loaded.  I'll drop 5-10 psi if I'm riding
more gravel/trail/off-road.

I've found that 38 mm tires feel squirrely to me around 30-35 psi.

I ran 85 front / 100 rear on my Cerf blue 700 x 26 tires.
I run 60 front / 75 rear on my 700 x 32 Gravel King tires.
I run 30 front / 35 rear on my 26 x 2.1" Thunder Burts.
I run 7 front / 8 rear on my 26 x 4.6" fat bike tires.


On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> 210 lbs, running Barlows on my upright at 60psi rear, 40 psi front.
> On my semi-upright, running Stampede at 65psi rear, 55 psi front.
>
> Mostly concentrate on not shocking the rims and handling.  I have some big
> hills to go down.  I've also noticed another squishiness that can develop
> at high speed, when centrifugal forces are stretching tje tire out and they
> don't have sufficient pressure for good lateral stiffness, but I only see
> that if I let the pressures drift a little below the numbers above.
>
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Tim Butterfield]

My currently cycle computer is my iPhone 5S on a QuadLock mount running the
Wahoo Fitness app and the Wahoo Tickr X and Blue SC sensors.  I do not
often refer to it while riding, but I do like having the data available for
after ride comparisons.  (This ride felt harder.  Was it?)  I also like
that the Wahoo Fitness app supports uploading data to a wide variety of web
sites.

As much as I like this combination, I'm a bit torn about whether to use it
on my soon to arrive AHH.  I will be getting a Garmin Varia Rear View Radar
tail light for that bike and I'm not yet sure if I want to use that with
just the radar read out display or maybe connect it to a Garmin cycling
computer.  I'm currently leaning towards using it with an Garmin Edge 820.
If you want reviews on a variety of devices, check out the
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/ site.

Tim

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle <
gentlemanonabicy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important)
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built.
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>
> BBOB
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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Ron Mc]

210 lbs, running Barlows on my upright at 60psi rear, 40 psi front. 
On my semi-upright, running Stampede at 65psi rear, 55 psi front.  

Mostly concentrate on not shocking the rims and handling.  I have some big 
hills to go down.  I've also noticed another squishiness that can develop 
at high speed, when centrifugal forces are stretching tje tire out and they 
don't have sufficient pressure for good lateral stiffness, but I only see 
that if I let the pressures drift a little below the numbers above.  

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Deacon Patrick]

Och! Sorry. I ride Barlow Pass. I'm 200-210 lbs.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:45:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I inflate mine to 40psi. I got a pinch flat on rooty/rocky trails my last 
> ride because I didn't inflate them from 10-15psi lower than that. I start 
> to notice squirrelly on fast, curvy descents at 25-30psi.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people 
>> are running these tires at?
>>
>> I don't have much experience with supple 700c tires so wondering.
>> My only extensive experience on 700c is 120psi 25mm wide Gatorskins and 
>> Armadillos.
>> Don't know what to do with the Rivish 700c tires.
>> I weigh 170.
>> Road riding. No loads. I want max cush.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[WETH]

A second vote for cyclemeter app!

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Ryan Fleming]

I weigh a bit more than you do. 75psi rear and 70psi front; I have the 
Stampede Pass extralight. I feel I could drop a few pounds (both tire 
pressure and body weight :) ) however. I think some experimentation is 
required.

They're very nice supple tires; I think they're nicer riding than the 
32..Paselas they replaced 

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:34:32 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people 
> are running these tires at?
>
> I don't have much experience with supple 700c tires so wondering.
> My only extensive experience on 700c is 120psi 25mm wide Gatorskins and 
> Armadillos.
> Don't know what to do with the Rivish 700c tires.
> I weigh 170.
> Road riding. No loads. I want max cush.
>

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[RBW] Ibex Sale

[Eric Norris]

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[RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Deacon Patrick]

I inflate mine to 40psi. I got a pinch flat on rooty/rocky trails my last 
ride because I didn't inflate them from 10-15psi lower than that. I start 
to notice squirrelly on fast, curvy descents at 25-30psi.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people 
> are running these tires at?
>
> I don't have much experience with supple 700c tires so wondering.
> My only extensive experience on 700c is 120psi 25mm wide Gatorskins and 
> Armadillos.
> Don't know what to do with the Rivish 700c tires.
> I weigh 170.
> Road riding. No loads. I want max cush.
>

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Re: [RBW] What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Eric Norris]

I find that below about 50 PSI the tires get “squirmy” when making turns or on 
a winding road. I weigh about 190 and usually run my Stampede Pass tires at 
60-65 PSI. Above that, and the ride quality suffers.

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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:
> 
> Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people are 
> running these tires at?
> 
> I don't have much experience with supple 700c tires so wondering.
> My only extensive experience on 700c is 120psi 25mm wide Gatorskins and 
> Armadillos.
> Don't know what to do with the Rivish 700c tires.
> I weigh 170.
> Road riding. No loads. I want max cush.
> 
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[RBW] What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Brian Campbell]

Running my 38mm Barlow Pass ELs at 45 front, 50 rear. I am 185lbs. Rims are 
Mavic Open Pros.

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Eric Norris]

I like using a computer, and I’ve used a lot of different kinds. In my opinion, 
the best computer ever made was the Avocet 50, which sadly has been out of 
production for many years. Big numbers, easy to use, with elevation gain. I 
wrote about it here:

http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2010/03/in-praise-of-avocet-50.html 

I still have one that I’m saving for a future project.

Nowadays, I’ve turned to GPS units. I have used Garmin units since about 2005, 
but switched to a Wahoo Elemnt this year. GPS units don’t need wires, or spoke 
magnets, or calibration. With a few spare mounts you can swap one unit from 
bike to bike in seconds. 

Most GPS units also have the ability to set up the display to show only what 
you need. The Elemnt uses a smartphone app that is particularly easy to use.

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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built. 
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
> 
> BBOB
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[RBW] What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Lungimsam]

Wondering what is the lowest, cushiest, but still safe pressures people are 
running these tires at?

I don't have much experience with supple 700c tires so wondering.
My only extensive experience on 700c is 120psi 25mm wide Gatorskins and 
Armadillos.
Don't know what to do with the Rivish 700c tires.
I weigh 170.
Road riding. No loads. I want max cush.

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[RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[sameness]

That one looks a bit buggy.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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> Here's a close-up of my cycling computer:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/27882258535/in/dateposted-public/
>
> With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Deacon Patrick]

Here's a close-up of my cycling computer:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/27882258535/in/dateposted-public/

With abandon,
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 10:07:14 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> I use the simplest one possible. None.
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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle and the pool noodle

[John]

Hi Lynne, I just came across this in this thread (see link):

*"Was the saddle ever comfortable? If so, keep reading. If not, I have no 
suggestions.*





*Because on my Atlantis, the Brooks B17 Special I have was very comfortable 
before, and now it's not. What happened was it lost firmness as it aged, 
and I'm riding on the rails now if I ever try to use it, and it's not good. 
It's a common problem with Brooks. The solution that Riv uses is to fill 
the saddle with foam to re-establish the firmness, and I will try that 
soon. Grant's suggestion to me was to just buy one of those foam noodles 
that are sold as swimming-pool toys. Cut a foam piece that will fit between 
the leather and rails, and try to firm it up. I believe this has been 
successful for many people. Adding laces to keep everything together is an 
option as well. I wouldn't try the laces without the foam, but I might try 
the foam without the laces to see how that holds 
up."https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/selle$20anatomica%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/V6SkLt6xuMc/GGZba0EJnPQJ
 
*I
 
hope this is what you were looking for,

John

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>
> Somewhere, here or on the Blug, I remember reading about it.   Now I can't 
> find it!  Pointers gratefully welcomed.
>
> Cheers,
> Lynne F
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Lungimsam]

Sigma  Pure 1 ATS
New model for 2016
Large display
Only one button, wireless.
Only shows:
Current speed
Miles
Total miles
Riding time
Total riding time

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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[David Hallerman]

Oh, there are three levels of Cateye Padrone, and I was pointing to the 
least complex, least costly one.



On 7/26/16 12:47 PM, David Hallerman wrote:

Cateye Padrone.

Basic, simple, large, well-built.

- David Hallerman -

On Jul 26, 2016, at 11:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle 
> 
wrote:


Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many 
different cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic 
(important) features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?

But well built.
Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?

BBOB
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[David Hallerman]

Cateye Padrone.

Basic, simple, large, well-built.

- David Hallerman -

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 11:18 AM, bluebirdonabicycle 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built. 
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, but from my own experience with Kojaks and the BQ tests on the R
Tuffys, you might want to consider a Compass tire for something a bit
narrower. IME, the Kojaks roll pretty well, and I'm not sure the RTs would
be an improvement.

*And,* the Kojaks are very flat resistant for the quality of their ride.

This in accord with my own personal tastes, of course

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  wrote:


> I'm running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching
> to some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am
> a roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of
> the bike is so, so comfortable.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Daniel D.]

oh man that's a beauty.  Since you have a stable I vote for as is.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:57:19 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
> day off from the gravel/trails?
>
>
> ​
> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
> 
>  (from 
> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
> 
>  
> (purchased from a listmember).
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  > wrote:
>
>> Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
>> acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
>> running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
>> some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
>> roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
>> the bike is so, so comfortable.  
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my 
>>> main and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am 
>>> a roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
>>> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike 
>>> they could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the 
>>> Berkeley hills.
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Re: [RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[Patrick Moore]

If you have a smartphone, Cyclemeter works well, even the free version,
which does far more than I need.

Other Patrick's practice is far too zen and mellow for me, but cyclemeter
or somesuch at least requires no special gadget for each bike.

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> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important)
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built.
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>
> BBOB
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[RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Deacon Patrick]

I use the simplest one possible. None.

Ask yourself: what do I REALLY need to know as I ride? Does it truly matter 
to me that I see my speed? My average? Does any of that information help me 
enjoy the ride? Or does it have me riding to the numbers? Pushing myself 
instead of "just riding"?

The reality is that if you don't use a computer, you can still track basic 
info like distance and time (and thus average speed) with a clock and basic 
map. If you have a smart phone, or watch, you can track those in a general 
way on the ride.

I find technology is WAY overrated and am far happier riding without the 
numbers in my face.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:18:51 AM UTC-6, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:
>
> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
> cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
> But well built. 
> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>
> BBOB
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Ryan Fleming]

I guess I have sort of the same issue with my 2001 custom Road which is 
fenderless right now. I won't commute to work on it because where I work, 
there's quite the rogue's gallery of people  lurking around "shopping" for 
 bikes and/or parts. But though I'm certainly not a fast clubby rider, I do 
enjoy the road bike with the drop bars (Nitto "Dream" bars), especially 
with those dreamy TRP levers  and now new to me Compass 32mm extra tires 
for longer (up to 50 mile) rides. Anyway, from what I've read, the Roadeo 
is , like my old custom, purely a road bike with   the predictable handling 
of all Rivs and maybe that's its best intended use...granted it's not gonna 
freak out on a little gravel. I would opt for B, but if you feel you don't 
ride it enough , you want to commute, you don't have to bring the kitchen 
sink with you and you have a secure parking spot, go for A. You have a 
beautiful bike there; if you get rid of it, I think you might feel a little 
seller's remorse.

Myself, I'm not ready to get rid of my road bike yet because it is 
fast,comfortable and  light riding (No, I don't know how much it weighs,but 
it rides light :) )

Ryan Fleming, Winnipeg

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's gorgeous, 
> wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my previous 
> gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed Ergopower.
>
> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>
> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or rained 
> recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or myself) 
> dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
> can easily carry the load.
>
> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
> roadie yet.  :)
>
> So, I should:
> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used for 
> commuting?
> or,
> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
> day off from the gravel/trails?
>
>
> ​
> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
> 
>  (from 
> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
> 
>  
> (purchased from a listmember).
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  > wrote:
>
>> Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
>> acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
>> running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
>> some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
>> roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
>> the bike is so, so comfortable.  
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my 
>>> main and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am 
>>> a roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
>>> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike 
>>> they could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the 
>>> Berkeley hills.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Brian Campbell]

Add a set of lighter, alloy fenders, saddle bag of your choice and sell off 
bikes that duplicate. I have my 61cm AHH down to 24.9lbs with fenders, 
lights, dyno hub and fenders. I am using 38mm tires. It is light enough to 
feel fast and not overly heavy while climbing. The fenders and lights make 
it super practical ( I ride to work on it) and I can add a larger saddle 
bag or rack if need be. The 24.9  weight does not include a saddle bag but 
does include pedals/bottle cages and empty water bottles. No ti & no carbon 
were used either. 

Weight is not really the primary concern for me but I had the bike 
configured differently  and it weighed about 6lbs more, felt sluggish to me 
and I felt the handling was suffering due to a heavy front handlebar bag. 
It is no less useful in its current configuration and is so enjoyable to 
ride, I sold off the two other road bikes I had. No need for them when only 
one gets picked when its time to ride

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's gorgeous, 
> wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my previous 
> gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed Ergopower.
>
> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>
> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or rained 
> recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or myself) 
> dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
> can easily carry the load.
>
> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
> roadie yet.  :)
>
> So, I should:
> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used for 
> commuting?
> or,
> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
> day off from the gravel/trails?
>
>
> ​
> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
> 
>  (from 
> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
> 
>  
> (purchased from a listmember).
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  > wrote:
>
>> Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
>> acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
>> running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
>> some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
>> roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
>> the bike is so, so comfortable.  
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my 
>>> main and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am 
>>> a roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
>>> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike 
>>> they could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the 
>>> Berkeley hills.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Grant @ Rivendell]

We sell about 40 a year--laughable by some standards, but it's one a week 
in a teacher's year. (Apologies to teachers who work in the summer). 

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:47:52 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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[RBW] silly question re: cyclometers

[bluebirdonabicycle]

Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different 
cyclometers (or whatever they are called) 
Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important) 
features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
But well built. 
Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?

BBOB

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis Riv dealer

[Christopher Wiggins]

Ahhh.  Understood.  Thanks!

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 10:35:55 AM UTC-4, Sean Kline wrote:
>
> Thanks Chris. I live within biking distance of Rivendell in Walnut Creek. 
> I visit the Twin Cities from time to time and was wondering if there was a 
> Riv dealer there these days that may be willing to rent me at least a 
> Riv-like build. 
>
>  
>
> Cheers,
> Sean
>
>  
>
> *From: * on behalf of 
> Christopher Wiggins 
> *Reply-To: *
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM
> *To: *RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject: *[RBW] Re: Minneapolis Riv dealer
>
>  
>
> Sean, we may be the closest dealer to you.  I'm in Indianapolis.  
>
>  
>
> Please let me know if I can help.
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> Chris
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:00:35 AM UTC-4, Sean Kline wrote:
>
> Hi all: I understand that Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis closed. Does 
> anyone know if there's a Riv dealer in the Twin Cities now?
>
>  
>
> I'm debating flying with my Riv or seeking a rental when I arrive. Last 
> visit I rode Nice Ride bike share, which was cool but not great for longer 
> distances. Any recommendations on bike rental?
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[Lungimsam]

I love my Bleriot!!!
Traditional shaped frame and that metallic aqua color just gleams in the 
sunshine! So bright!
Luxuriant lugs and cream paint windows and headtube are so gorgeous! I think 
the decals are the coolest of all Riv decals. Airplanes, trails, and swoopy 
letters.

Heres mine in the ride in last weeks' heatwave:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/CTSu7M

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (pair), Polished silver // Nitto Quill Stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach // Nitto Technomic stem

[Philip Kim]

Only item left are the Paul brake levers (pair)

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:23:26 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Neo Retro front, Touring Canti rear, polished silver, tektro alloy 
> hangers, no straddle cable though *$125 shipped CONUS for the pair.*
>
> Paul Brake levers (pair), polished silver, short pull for road calipers, 
> cantilever brakes, road disc, etc. Will not work for V-brake types. Almost 
> new, couple of rides *$85 shipped CONUS*
>
> Hunter Nugz , 
> these are brake cable adjusters specifically for Paul Brakes. Almost new. 
> Looks like you can't buy these anymore? *$20 shipped CONUS*
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> Paul Rack Adapters, brand new *$20 shipped conus*
>
> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:12:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Stem sold. Rack adapter and Paul cantos left
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis Riv dealer

[Sean Kline]

Thanks Chris. I live within biking distance of Rivendell in Walnut Creek. I 
visit the Twin Cities from time to time and was wondering if there was a Riv 
dealer there these days that may be willing to rent me at least a Riv-like 
build. 

 

Cheers,
Sean

 

From:  on behalf of Christopher Wiggins 

Reply-To: 
Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:31 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis Riv dealer

 

Sean, we may be the closest dealer to you.  I'm in Indianapolis.  

 

Please let me know if I can help.

 

Thanks

 

Chris

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:00:35 AM UTC-4, Sean Kline wrote:

Hi all: I understand that Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis closed. Does anyone 
know if there's a Riv dealer in the Twin Cities now?

 

I'm debating flying with my Riv or seeking a rental when I arrive. Last visit I 
rode Nice Ride bike share, which was cool but not great for longer distances. 
Any recommendations on bike rental?

 

Thanks,
Sean

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis Riv dealer

[Christopher Wiggins]

Sean, we may be the closest dealer to you.  I'm in Indianapolis.  

Please let me know if I can help.

Thanks

Chris

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:00:35 AM UTC-4, Sean Kline wrote:
>
> Hi all: I understand that Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis closed. Does 
> anyone know if there's a Riv dealer in the Twin Cities now?
>
> I'm debating flying with my Riv or seeking a rental when I arrive. Last 
> visit I rode Nice Ride bike share, which was cool but not great for longer 
> distances. Any recommendations on bike rental?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>

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[RBW] FS: Shimano Sora shifters set - NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

Some say Sora shifters are the best ones Shimano has made, because these 
are the ones that emulate the design of Campy shifters, with an "ear" 
lever on the insides of each unit.


For sale here is the 3300 model, which means:
* 8-speed rear
* double chainrings
* works with most Shimano derailleurs

Complete set, with cables and housing.
New in box, never mounted, never installed.

*Price = $125, plus shipping*

Some photos linked below, and questions quickly answered.

Dave, /who has selling these shifters because he has too many projects 
but not enough time or space/


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/sora_shifters_00.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/sora_shifters_01.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/sora_shifters_03.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/sora_shifters_04.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Nick Ybarra]

Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
the bike is so, so comfortable.  

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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[RBW] Re: Jones on the trade/sale block so I can get a Riv

[Bill M.]

Seconded.

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 10:09:40 AM UTC-7, ian m wrote:
>
> I am interested in pics and price
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:28:11 AM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>> I totally understand if this is against the rules but since it involves a 
>> Riv, maybe its ok?
>> I am trying to sell my Jones Diamond to fund the purchase of a 
>> Hunq/Atlantis/Joe App and thought I'd see if anyone is in the market to buy 
>> or swap. Local market is crummy. 
>> Full XT build facilitated by conversation with Jeff.  My PBH is 84 and 
>> set up accordingly however the frame is versatile to a variety of rider 
>> sizes.  I am looking for a 51 Hunq/Joe App or 54.5 /56 Atlantis.  May be a 
>> long shot but, eh.  
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Rivendell Simpleone $1200 shipped, and more (thinning the herd)

[John L]

By my measurement standover is just about 88cm with the current Xplor 
700x40 - FWIW I have a 91cm PBH and have never had any issues.

Would be happy to ship internationally for whatever the difference between 
international and avg US shipping costs. Haven't checked in a while but I 
think Ship Bikes will deliver to most countries and can give a rough 
estimate.

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 10:21:38 AM UTC-4, CharlieG wrote:
>
> Hi John 
>
> What's the rough stand over height on the SimpleOne - I can't find a 
> geometry chart anywhere that includes stand over. Rusty trigonometry 
> indicates about 91cm, but I could be well off. 
>
> Second and possibly more problematic question - would you be prepared to 
> post it internationally (for some extra money, of course). 
>
> Cheers 
>
> Charlie

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (pair), Polished silver // Nitto Quill Stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach // Nitto Technomic stem

[Philip Kim]

Neo Retro front, Touring Canti rear, polished silver, tektro alloy hangers, 
no straddle cable though *$125 shipped CONUS for the pair.*

Paul Brake levers (pair), polished silver, short pull for road calipers, 
cantilever brakes, road disc, etc. Will not work for V-brake types. Almost 
new, couple of rides *$85 shipped CONUS*

Hunter Nugz , these 
are brake cable adjusters specifically for Paul Brakes. Almost new. Looks 
like you can't buy these anymore? *$20 shipped CONUS*








Paul Rack Adapters, brand new *$20 shipped conus*

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:12:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
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> Stem sold. Rack adapter and Paul cantos left

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (pair), Polished silver // Nitto Quill Stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach // Nitto Technomic stem

[Philip Kim]

A buyer changed their mind...Here's whats left plus price drop:


Neo Retro front, Touring Canti rear, polished silver, tektro alloy hangers, 
no straddle cable though *$125 shipped CONUS for the pair.*

Paul Brake levers (pair), polished silver, short pull for road calipers, 
cantilever brakes, road disc, etc. Will not work for V-brake types. Almost 
new, couple of rides *$85 shipped CONUS*

Hunter Nugz , these 
are brake cable adjusters specifically for Paul Brakes. Almost new. Looks 
like you can't buy these anymore? *$20 shipped CONUS*

Paul Rack Adapters, brand new *$20 shipped conus*



On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:12:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
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> Stem sold. Rack adapter and Paul cantos left

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[islaysteve]

And, as someone recently asked on the facebook page for this group:  Is 
there any love for the Bleriot?  This was the bike that resulted from a 
collaboration between RBW and QBP, and was available both from Rivendell 
and any QBP dealer from, I believe, 2006 to 2008.  Dealers could also offer 
it as a complete, I'm not sure if RBW did.  It was brazed in Taiwan and 
easily takes Pair-Motos and even wider tires. I refer you to cyclofiend's 
excellent webpage on the 
Bleriot: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot/index.html.  

I count myself very lucky to have acquired a Bleriot several years ago and 
it may very well be the last bike I buy.  It fits me perfectly, rides 
great, inspires confidence, and is also "lugged to the teeth."  I will be 
interested to see the Roadini and to compare it with the Bleriot.  Cheers, 
Steve
(in heat-wave Maryland)


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[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Michael Hechmer]

I don't know about the Rodeo sales but there are a lot of Rambouillets, 
which was the preceding road bike.  I run the 28 mm compass tires on mine 
and agree that it downhills absolutely fabulously.  It's a great bike on 
any not too too rough a surface.  I would add, however that my '84 Trek 
620, which has a nearly identical geometry to the Ram but standard guage 
531c tubes and now runs 38mm parimoto tires  is every bit as good a ride 
and better on bad chip & seal or gravel roads.

Michael

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:47:52 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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