Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Evan E.
About five years ago I occasionally walked past an orange Sam Hillborne that had been locked up in one place, outdoors, for so long that the components were all rusted and the spokes were a tangle of spider webs. I stopped by my local police station and asked an officer if the owner could be

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-02-01 Thread Eric Langley
I'm with you. But, I'm probably a bit placebo-prone when it comes to differentiating between Compass tires and my perceived effort/resistance. I have not had any real issues with flats on my 42mm Babyshoes. Very few in 3 years of riding them regularly (commutes, weekend centuries, etc). I did

[RBW] WTB: 50cm Cheviot

2018-02-01 Thread RJ March
Hello, I recently got a 52cm Clem Smith Jr and it's too big for my wife. Anybody have a Cheviot they can sell me? Or better yet trade! Thank you, R.J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Are you still riding on Fatty Rumpkin Originals?

2018-02-01 Thread Lum Gim Fong
By original I mean the non-puncture protected version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
I’m happy that what I offered was useful to you. The hypothetical build list above was not a big time expenditure. A more thorough plan involves weighing everything individually and that was the approach I didn’t have time to take and I believe you weren’t asking for. Best Bill -- You

[RBW] Honjo fenders on Cheviot?

2018-02-01 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
I have a Wilbury (proto-Cheviot!), running Velo-Orange fluted “Zeppelin” fenders, Tektro long reach calipers and Hetre EL tires. It’s a tight fit but it works for me. If you would like detailed pics, please let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Bill, I'm sure you'd return the money if you knew that it came from someone who lost everything: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/22/world/la-fg-japan-returned-money-20110923 This reminds me of the scores of unlocked bikes I saw in Tokyo--even the locked bikes I remember were not locked to

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-02-01 Thread ted
Bill, I don't know that there is a point. I am not trying to test you. I do not want to bicker about whether some part is "dumb" or not. I do not want you to design a build list for me. I don't think you are wrong, and I'm not out to prove anything. I am interested in the reasoning behind your

[RBW] FS: new derailleurs and sackville mudflaps

2018-02-01 Thread Birdman
Hey bunch, Making some last minute changes in the Atlantis build. My loss is your potential gain. All items are new, but without original packaging. Deore m591 rear derailleur unused $30 shipped IRD Alpina-d triple front derailleur with clamp unused $40 shipped Pair of unused grey sackville

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh wow, I got a full pictorial spread! From now on it will be known as my Cheviot Scorcher, a great name from a great old Ibis I've always wanted. Yes, it's a flipped Choco with an inch lopped off the ends. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread Surlyprof
Neil, I took Riv's advice from a Blug post a couple of years ago and bought 700x45 Smart Sams for my 56 orange canti-Sam. They've been wonderful, bouncy fun on trails. Two things that surprised me: they are much more supple than I expected and much quieter on the roads (only some expected

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-02-01 Thread tc
That bike looks so awesome! Roman's post says you have a flipped Albatross bar, but it's a Choco bar, right? I have decided to first try a flipped Albatross bar on my S1. I was waffling, but saw some pic's, and this article on Lovely Bicycle

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Waterford Built 64cm Atlantis Frameset

2018-02-01 Thread Keith Muller
Frameset is sold! Thanks all! Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-02-01 Thread Kieran J
I've had a couple pairs of the Gen. 1 Barlow Passes. I like them, but not that much more than the Jack Brown Greens they replaced. I do admit they have a nice silky ride. The main downside over the JBGs in my experience was that the Compasses were harder to mount perfectly round with no lumps.

Re: [RBW] Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
I could make a case that buying from the US regime is a little dicey at the moment so...yeah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yeah, let's not go down the "regimes" rabbit hole. The world is very very complicated. RBW Owners Bunch a tad less so. On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 7:35:15 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote: > > Disappointed because Salsa used to make everything in Taiwan, and I would > rather support a small,

[RBW] FS: '84 Stumpjumper

2018-02-01 Thread ant ritchey
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/84-specialized-stumpjumper/6471890254.html The CL post spells it all out. $500 + shipping. Possible delivery from Seattle to Ashland. PM for more information. Current trade interest list: Fabio's Chest, large Gransfors Bruk, nice silver/polished 650b

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-02-01 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
Joe: I love the look of the bike. The seagulls also seem impressed :) Thanks for the pictures. Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread Austin B
@Neil -- The 700x42 Cazaderos run under my Tektro 559's just fine on my Sam. They ride nicely for knobbies and are enough for the offroading I do (I don't like rooty, rocky MTB trails). My thinking is the same as yours, even using Roman's photo as inspiration. My 62cm Sam's a little offroady

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Yes. Partially. Jeff Arita On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 2:52:31 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Yea or nay? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Ruben Flores
This reminds me of a funny story from about 15 years ago. A friend of mine was a researcher at UCLA. She lived in a large apartment building near the campus. At some point she noticed a nicer than campus bike locked on a stair handrail. Sat there for months (or so she thought). One day a note

[RBW] WTB: Quill Stem 26.0, 80MM

2018-02-01 Thread Bob Warner
Looking for a silver quill stem with 26.0 clamp & approx 80mm reach. Ideally, would like one with a 2 bolt / removable faceplate (ala Salsa SUL) Anyone have something like this they want to unload?? Looking to build up a Sam Hillborne frameset I just bought. thanks Bob -- You received

Re: [RBW] Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Eric Daume
Disappointed because Salsa used to make everything in Taiwan, and I would rather support a small, semi-independent island rather than a Communist regime. On the other hand, I've been to China, and found everybody I encountered to be very nice and helpful. So maybe I shouldn't look down on Chinese

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Eric Norris
I agree with the idea to post a notice where the bike was letting the owner know how to contact you. If they were somehow unable to get to their bike for a few weeks (maybe in a coma?) and then went back to retrieve it, there should be some way for them to find it. --Eric N

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread MartyG
Like most cities, Portland has a policy: If you know of a bicycle that has been left in the public right-of-way for more than 72 hours, please call (503) 823-9863 or use the online form to report it as abandoned. Please email

[RBW] Ever Green and Filigree White

2018-02-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
In which a wee recovery ride in the spleandour of the wilds at the edge of the tame passes through winter’s wimpy icy grip. https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/ever-green-and-filigree-white With abandon, Patrick www.CredoFamily.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread phil k
Yes that is ridiculous, but a "cheaper" way to own a "McLaren" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread sameness
Marty, that was a truly excellent read. I really, really liked it. Thank you! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:47:50 PM UTC-8, MartyG wrote: > > > Many Super Blue Blood Moons ago, I penned this quaint verse for the now > lost and forgotten A. Homer Hilsen

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Christopher Murray
I think it is technically theft but the person’s intentions matter here AND would matter a great deal to the police and/or judge. How many times has someone posted on this list that they bought a Rivendell because they suspected it was stolen? There was one only a few weeks ago. Purchasing

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
I got my bike back and the grips are awesome! As I expected it's not a super huge handful - good because I have small hands - and it's not overly cushy either. The ballcocks thing is a revelation: I expected the "hand stop" feature, but not the way you can rest your hands over them kinda like a

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
This is the 145 gram saddle that works for me. The Selle Italia SLR Titanium: https://www.selleitalia.com/en/saddles/slr-titanium-black/ BL in EC On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 8:02:58 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > The 220 gram Flite saddle works for me, but the 145 gram also works

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread MartyG
Many Super Blue Blood Moons ago, I penned this quaint verse for the now lost and forgotten A. Homer Hilsen website. Kind of apropos to bring it up in this thread, don't you think? *The Resurrection of A. Homer Hilsen* There it was, there it sat. Bars akimbo, tires flat. Cluster

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Cool color. I wonder how much you're paying for McLaren to brand a bicycle they otherwise had no involvement in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
Here's another one: I find a quarter on the street. I take it without consent, with the intent to permanently deny the rightful owner of that property I find a $20 bill on the street. I take it without consent, with the intent to permanently deny the rightful owner of that property I find

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Ian A
Bill: Borrowing without intent is an interesting argument, but I imagine a judge would not be easily convinced that it wasn't intention to permanently deprive. IanA - also not a lawyer. Since when has common sense ever prevailed? Certainly rarely in my life! -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
Ian In my example I take it with the intent of temporarily depriving the owner. Only six months! If that's enough for 'theft' aka 'larceny', the why does the wording include 'permanent'. I agree with your common sense interpretation, Ian, but I can't explain the legal wording. I'm not a

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread George Cline
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-roubaix-mclaren-dura-ace-di2/p/134255?color=240101-134255 Maybe lum was referring to something like this when calling out pricing:-$ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jeff I did the identical googlings, for theft and unauthorized borrowing --> plagiarism. It's like we used the same interwebz On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, Jeff wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Bill Lindsay > wrote: > >> Interesting. It

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Ian A
In your example, Bill, that would be taking something with the intent to deprive it from the owner, even if only for a period of time,which would be an offense. The CL poster has openly declared his intention and he would probably be able to demonstrate to police or the actual owner that he

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread EasyRider
Yup, it's more in my head than anything else. On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 4:00:12 PM UTC-5, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > To each their own. The reality is that you use your first.last name@gmail > email address to send to the group which can be obtained fairly easily. And > the people who

[RBW] When your Rambouillet chainstay/dropout broke, were you...

2018-02-01 Thread ascpgh
130mm. The wheel set of the orignal build from Rivendell when new. Axle not bent, I still have it. Right rear dropout broke. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1993/pages/54.htm Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread lconley
I wonder what the age distribution is between reals and aliases is. I think that the reals skews older, once you eliminate teachers - most teachers I know don't use social; media at all. Laing >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread Justin August
To each their own. The reality is that you use your first.last name@gmail email address to send to the group which can be obtained fairly easily. And the people who are really profiting off of linking up all that information already are doing so by using their servers and services. -J On Feb

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Jeff Lesperance
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Interesting. It isn’t theft if you take something that isn’t yours but > don’t intend to permanently deprive the owner of the property. > > So I could take a bike that isn’t mine, use it for six months and put it > back

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread EasyRider
Hi Norman, I'd just rather limit the ability of strangers to link information gleaned from my random bloviations in a google group to other little bits and scraps of information about me from elsewhere. On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-5, Norman Bone wrote: > > ER- > I'm

[RBW] WTB: Knobbies (Cazaderos or Clement XPlors)

2018-02-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Eric, I replied off list. I’ve a pair of Clement MSO 40’s with 1/3 life left on the rear, close to all left on the front. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread William R.
I use my formal first name and first initial of my last. These are real. Then I sign with my more informal, what I go by of "Bill" and always say where I actually reside in Westchester, NY. That is the county that I live in. If someone really wanted to find me or mess with me they would have to

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Apologies if this has been mentioned already.Let me take a moment to plug  https://bikeindex.org/ The Portland cops check it and I imagine other jurisdictions do as well. Norman 'Locked and unloaded' Bone in Portland, OR From: lconley To: RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
You are right, Neil. The Compass nobbies wear faster than I’d like them to, but they also grip spectacularly. I’m happy to pay to trade up for that. I have a new pair of Barlows I’ll try once snow season passes (June), and compare which I prefer for six months of the year. The knobbies are

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread drew
Gotcha. Well with both bikes and 2 wheelsets i've had stolen in the last 10 years, each cop has told me to watch craigslist diligently. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread lconley
A year ago, I would have reported it to the police and given up on it (and maybe declared a theft loss on my tax return). I have never recovered anything that was stolen (including 3 bikes 1977 and earlier). Laing On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 3:37:39 PM UTC-5, drew wrote: > right, but if

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread drew
right, but if one did get stolen now, you'd probably convey that information to someone (maybe here on the group, maybe a bike shop), and that someone would probably ask you if you had checked craigslist. you wouldn't just give up on it and wander the streets, right? -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread lconley
I haven't had a bike stolen since 1977 and it would never have occurred to me to check Craigslist if I had one stolen up until I read this thread. Maybe the bike belongs to another clueless old guy like me. Laing Cocoa, FL On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 3:23:21 PM UTC-5, drew wrote: > yeah.

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-02-01 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
No. I use RTP on my Trekendell in non-winter months (just switched to Thunder Burts) and have had zero flats. I throw some Orange Seal in the tubes. Also no flats on my 700x38 Barlows. One flat on my 700x32 Stampedes. All are extra light versions. I don't put on mega miles, but right now

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread drew
yeah. If you've ever had a bike stolen and don't check craigslist, you either don't care to get it back or you are living in another age. the ad can be re-upped with a click of a button. its not like you can only post something on craigslist once. the fact that we are all talking about it

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Front-End Update

2018-02-01 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I don't own one, but I believe the Tara Big Apple just has more tire clearance at the hoop than your Tara. Either way, you'll need band clamps (rubber lined Nitto ones, or the Tubus bolt on adapters) to level the rack since the Riv spec upper mid fork mounts are not meant for traditional low

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread John A. Bennett
I have exchanged emails with the Craigslist poster, and a guy who lives in the neighborhood where this took place has spoken with him in person at his place of business. While I lack the proper tools to investigate/examine the inner workings of his mind/heart/soul/whatever your reference

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Front-End Update

2018-02-01 Thread Kainalu V.
Tubus makes some very nice clamp on mounts to solve this problem very solidly, or you could use p-clamps without much worry. And to clear things up regarding this versus any other low rider tubus makes, none of them meet with Rivendell's mount location (which is there for many beautiful Nitto

[RBW] Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread C Sharp
I have a green canti Sam set up with Alba’s and 38mm Paselas that I rode all throughout Golden Gate Park after I got it. It definitely felt like “underbiking” at some points, but I had trouble discerning whether that was due to my set up or to my poor trail skills :) . Either way, I had a

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Mark Anderson
On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 5:19:00 PM UTC-6, Andrew Huston wrote: > > No, but making Hilsens and Hunqs in Taiwan batch-style, could make these > bikes more accessible with minimal quality decrease. True, but that would require Riv to pre-order, and then stock, a very large number of

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread RJM
I do believe this is theft...might be well intentioned and the owner *might* get their bike bike but what does the person do if the owner can't be found? Bottom line is that the person cut the lock and took a bike that does not belong to them. But, it may work out for the best in the end

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
LOL So there is this house that has had a car parked in front of the house for a month.Nobody has driven it. You decide to take it in fear that someone might start parting out the car and selling the parts. You get caught with the car and you tell the police "Officer it was parked in front

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
ER-I'm honestly curious. An 'easy target' for what? I'm having a hard time imagining harm coming from what I post here. Thanks--Norman 'Mostly a good apple' Bone in Portland, OR From: EasyRider To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent:

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bunik
When the Craiglist ad expires in ~2 weeks, who will remember it? Poster should at least make VERY PUBLICLY CLEAR and known his/her name, address, phone number-- maybe then "the community" will be better able to help connect the owner back with their stolen property. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Doug H.
I might have left a note on the bike asking the owner to call you if they have parked it long term or just happen to have it parked when you go by the spot. I'm sure they would appreciate the concern if they see the note. Otherwise, not a good idea to cut a lock and take a bike in my

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread 'kobe' via RBW Owners Bunch
How would the owner even know to check Craigslist for his bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] When your Rambouillet chainstay/dropout broke, were you...

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
Absolutely Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread nash5510
I wonder what this would be in a legal sense? Would this legally be considered theft? I don't know. I assume it would be, regardless of intent. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
Interesting. It isn’t theft if you take something that isn’t yours but don’t intend to permanently deprive the owner of the property. So I could take a bike that isn’t mine, use it for six months and put it back where I ‘found’ it without committing theft? Is there a different statute I’ve

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread EasyRider
I'd like to use my actual name but this isn't a 1990s listserv, it's a publicly searchable group. I'm not famous, or a public figure, or a teacher. I'd just rather not be an easy target for bad apples with basic keyword search abilities. That's why I "hide" behind a handle, not because I want

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Kainalu V.
But it's like letting the Orca starve because seals are so cute! Kind hearted do-gooders wouldn't be that without so much awful stuff in the world. Not to say that we shouldn't be our best selves, but the fact is that's someone else's $3000 rusting away. -Kai BK NY On Thursday, February 1,

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread allenmichael
Whatever this may have been, and whatever you may think about it, it was in no way theft. Theft always requires an intent to permanently deprive the owner of the property. Here, the bike was in, some sense, abandoned. A list member secured the bike and is making earnest efforts to find the

[RBW] Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
Can someone get a serial # and trace it back to Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread drew
I don't know if i agree. A 3000$ bike, if truly and consistently left for weeks on end (and not just at the times that the person happens to drive by and see it), makes me think that something bad happened. Serious illness, injury, death... something that is preventing the owner from coming

[RBW] Re: Backpedal Braking

2018-02-01 Thread Davey Two Shoes
Everyone should have a fixed gear in their stable, It really improves and keeps sharp your fundamental riding skills! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread EasyRider
I don't have a Sam, but that picture of Roman's bike definitely nudged me toward getting the bronze Rosco Bubbe road last year. I currently run 700x42 Cazaderos and like them just fine. I also considered the Simworks Homage and WTB Resolute (42) and the WTB Nano and Schwalbe Smart Sam (40). So

[RBW] When your Rambouillet chainstay/dropout broke, were you...

2018-02-01 Thread Lum Gim Fong
.. using a 130, 132.5, or 135 rear wheel? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
It reminds me of a story from the late 80’s. Brian told me that he and his friends disapproved of guys who would go to ska-shows and start fights in the pit. These guys were looking for trouble. Brian’s solution was to go to shows with his friends, seek out those troublemakers, and ‘put them in

Re: [RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread Justin August
Originator of the 5 Finger Discount! On Feb 1, 2018, 9:37 AM -0800, Joe Bernard , wrote: > My last name is 5 Fingers. Joe Bernard 5 Fingers, that's me. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Well-intentioned, but kinda weird. It's not my business how long someone parks their bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
My last name is 5 Fingers. Joe Bernard 5 Fingers, that's me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Kainalu V.
I'm with Marty. -Kai BK NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Ugh, too many "franklies" in that one. My kingdom for an edit feature! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread MartyG
Don't want to start a big thing here, but it seems to me that's outright theft. No different than seeing a car in the same spot for a while, breaking in and driving it off for "safe keeping". Not cool. Why not alert the proper authorities? My guess is even they would leave it be. No laws are

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
I, too, have bouts of "money from the sky" custom dreaming, but had to face reality: Even if I could afford one - I sorta can if I really committed - I'm much too low-mileage and casual of a rider to justify the effort. My new Cheviot is a spectacular bicycle which already has abilities far

[RBW] Re: Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread Neil Doran
Good stuff! Deacon - I would love to try Jan's knobbies, but I think there is too much pavement in my world for a high-end knobbie. Based on my experience with Compass tires, they would wear too quickly. I've always wanted to try Rock n Roads, but have always heard that they wear quickly and

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Dave, Agreed on everything you said... We do vote with our dollars. When and where we spend our dollars equates in its way to, we vote for more of that, and unfortunately, in the zero-sum sense, we vote for less of whatever we did not choose. If money did fall from the sky, there are several

Re: [RBW] Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Why is this disappointing? (That's a question, not a scolding.) On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Eric Daume wrote: > [...] > Who was disappointed to find the new Timberjack frames were indeed made in > China > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Patrick Moore
One value-add, as they say in biznis speak, is what appears (from owning 5 Rivendells) a signature Rivendell handling quality which I experience as straight line stability with "unerring" transition into turns. I had hoped to get this from my Matthews, but didn't (and given that I ride 50 or, now,

Re: [RBW] Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-02-01 Thread Philip Williamson
I like my RTPs and 700x44s. I had one flat with the RTPs on dirt that turned into a terrible experience because I’m bad at patching, but turned into a good experience because I begged a tube off the only other 26er rider at the West Point Inn pancake breakfast. The Snoqualmies handled Bolinas

Re: [RBW] Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Eric Daume
Surlys and most Salsas are made in Taiwan, not China. Eric Who was disappointed to find the new Timberjack frames were indeed made in China On Thursday, February 1, 2018, Dave Small wrote: > I have a couple of thoughts: > > I like well-designed and well-made steel

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Belopsky
Well stated. On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:37:03 AM UTC-6, Dave Small wrote: > > I have a couple of thoughts: > > I like well-designed and well-made steel bikes that are lugged or > fillet-brazed, are built for 1" threaded quill stems, and can accommodate > tires of at least 32mm and

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Here's what Grant had to say on the subject of price and value and bicycles exactly 22 years ago, in the sidebar in the February 1996 issue of Bicycle Guide magazine (click to embiggen):

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread Dave Small
I have a couple of thoughts: I like well-designed and well-made steel bikes that are lugged or fillet-brazed, are built for 1" threaded quill stems, and can accommodate tires of at least 32mm and preferably wider. Offhand I can think of a few specific models from other companies that meet

[RBW] Re: Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread RJM
I meant Rock n' Road tires. lol. I had Fatty Rumpkins on the bike before the Rock n' Roads and they handled crushed limestone trails great too. I found V-brakes powerful enough to not give me any issue braking on trails, but in my experience hydraulic discs are on a whole 'nuther level of

[RBW] Re: Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-02-01 Thread RJM
Back when I had my orange canti Sam H I initially set it up as a road bike with Noodles, bar end shifters, and v-brakes and the bike really rode well. It was a 650 b wheeled bike with Velocity Dyads and the Rivy freewheel hubs. Pretty nice setup. I then changed it to do some trail riding by

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread Minh
Wow, tough situation, on one hand it was locked up but otoh it was sitting there for weeks. what's the right thing to do here? do you leave it alone or do take it in assuming something bad? interested to see what the story is behind this. On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 2:21:40 PM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-02-01 Thread RJM
That's what I think. If a custom MUSA frame can be had for not a lot more than what a production frame costs, eventually people will choose to go custom, choose to purchase overseas produced frames, or go a different route for a bicycle. On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 10:43:55 AM UTC-6,

[RBW] Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-02-01 Thread Davey Two Shoes
I've been using the 38x700c extra light on my salsa vaya for the past few seasons for both on and off road ride. This fall I switched out to surly knards. On my first ride I rolled the front tire while cornering very hard at speed and went down pretty hard. I'll likely be putting this Compass

[RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread Davey Two Shoes
Perhaps obvious but my last name is not 2shoes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

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