[RBW] Re: Is this rim wear unusual

2010-08-15 Thread EricP
Will agree with Tim, that the o/p should check his brake pads. However, will also agree with David Craig and suggest the person also pull the tire, tube and rim strip and make sure there are no cracks in the rim with that wear. Had two Velocity rims crack internally, so am more paranoid about

[RBW] Re: All Rounder Flickr Group

2010-08-15 Thread EricP
Good to see this. I don't have one, but do have a 26 wheel 58cm LHT. When Surly went with that option, boy, was there a lot of griping on the Surly list. Still are quite a few folks who don't like it. Then again, my dream bike would probably be a custom 61cm Atlantis for 26 wheels. Yeah, that

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread MichaelH
I think this is right. I don't think Grant has retreated from 650B for larger sizes. He has always argued in favor of wider road tires, 28-35 mm, and that it is easier to achieve that on small frames with a 584 rim diameter because the 622 size forces unwanted compromises on the frame design.

[RBW] Re: Is this rim wear unusual

2010-08-15 Thread thirty-six
On 14 Aug, 03:53, carnerda...@bellsouth.net carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote: My 650B Sam Hillborne has Velocity Synergy rims and Shimano Deore V- brakes with the pads that came on them. Since new the front wheel has had a little tick with each revolution while braking.  I assumed this was a

[RBW] SoCal Autumn Rides

2010-08-15 Thread cyclotourist
We're having dates, times and routes under discussion right now. Check out the conversation and see if you can fit a great ride with some even greater people into your schedule! http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157624523700361/ -- Cheers,

[RBW] Re: Mini-rack for Dia Compe 750 centerpulls

2010-08-15 Thread Lee
Classy setup, Jason. I think fellow lister Nathan has used Albatross bars with a handlebar bag and standard size front rack (no decauler, though): http://tinyurl.com/23o7aft Btw, what size bottom bracket are you using with those cranks on the Bleriot? Happy Sunday, Lee On Aug 14, 4:04 pm,

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread RoadieRyan
Is it possible the retreat from larger sized 650b is simply a business decision? I get the impression, no hard facts, that there is less demand for larger sizes, especially over say 62 cm, than the mid- range, so it would follow that demand larger sizes spec'd for a non traditional wheel size is

[RBW] Re: Mini-rack for Dia Compe 750 centerpulls

2010-08-15 Thread jandrews_nyc
its the VO 118mm BB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread MichaelH
Over the years, Rivendell has trimmed its offering of larger sizes, independent of tire size. They don't offer anything equivalent to the Redwood, which went to 68, and have stopped offering the Atlantis in even a 64. I don't own an Atlantis but if it came in a 64, I would be tempted. michael

[RBW] Re: 2010 Cirque du Cyclisme Photos

2010-08-15 Thread SISDDWG
Very enjoyable! Thanks. On Aug 15, 4:37 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: I'm way late with this, but here's a link to my set of photos from this year's Cirque in Leesburg VA. Plenty of Singer, Herse, Witcomb, Weigle, classic Italian, etc., etc.This is a great show for anyone who loves the

[RBW] I'm living in a bicycle factory!

2010-08-15 Thread Marty
I'm new to Chicago, and rented a place in what I thought was the old Dr. Scholls factory in Old Town. Nice brick building, beamed ceilings etc. Even had a bike lift in my place when I moved in. Found out today that before the Doctor, it was home to Western Wheel Works - maker of Crescent bicycles,

[RBW] Re: I'm living in a bicycle factory!

2010-08-15 Thread Marty
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[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread bfd
On Aug 15, 10:29 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Is it possible the retreat from larger sized 650b is simply a business decision?  I get the impression, no hard facts, that there is less demand for larger sizes, especially over say 62 cm, than the mid- range, so it would follow that

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
Two distinct but complementary phenomena. The larger sizes I was speaking of in the context of Riv retreating from 650B in larger sizes are sizes above 52 cm (e.g., the Hillborne comes in 650B only in 48 and 52 cm). 54-60 cm don't constitute large sizes for outlier huge people, these constitute

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 06:47 -0700, MichaelH wrote: I think this is right. I don't think Grant has retreated from 650B for larger sizes. He has always argued in favor of wider road tires, 28-35 mm, and that it is easier to achieve that on small frames with a 584 rim diameter because the 622

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 05:05 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: I always thought of 584/650B as a way to get more tire in the right frame size with all the right clearances for fenders, etc. more than any other reason. Most likely the case. Combination of the market that makes up the 650b owners

Re: [RBW] Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:20 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Why are 650B tires better rolling and smoother than 700c tires, all things else being equal? If I understand wheels, the bigger the diameter, the smoother the ride. All things are not equal. Compare just about any 700C x 38 tire with a

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Jim Cloud
Steve, I guess this discussion merits another on the subject of the availability of 700C size tires that are designed around the parameters of the Gran Bois Hetre or Pacenti Pari-Moto (wide [38-42mm], supple sidewalls, lightweight and with fine herringbone tread patterns). Why doesn't anyone make

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 15:08 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: Steve, I guess this discussion merits another on the subject of the availability of 700C size tires that are designed around the parameters of the Gran Bois Hetre or Pacenti Pari-Moto (wide [38-42mm], supple sidewalls, lightweight and with

[RBW] Hunquapillar

2010-08-15 Thread Jim
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[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar

2010-08-15 Thread cyclofiend
On Aug 15, 8:35 am, Jim jfxdinn...@gmail.com wrote: What is the current estimated time of arrival of the Hunqua? Probably best to give Rivendell a call directly on Monday morning. They'll have pretty much the official word on it. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar

2010-08-15 Thread Marty
To save a call, I happened to get an Email from Grant this weekend, and he mentioned that they would be ready in September. I can't say - and he didn't say - how long to get into the ship mode once they have them, so I would not expect a 9-1 box at your door if you're on the list. Paint is still

Re: [RBW] Re: Is this rim wear unusual

2010-08-15 Thread carnerda...@bellsouth.net
First, thanks to all who have shared their experience, observations and advice. Here are the brake pads: http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4892840374/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4892244553/ I removed the tire and rim tape and closely inspected the rim. I saw no signs of even tiny

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread William
The 58cm Betty Foy takes 650B, is a super bike, and would easily fit a 6'0 or 6'1 dude. I'm only half joking. Maybe not even half. With drop bars on a dirt drop stem, that would be a super touing/rando bike. Only one water bottle cage but otherwise would have everything you need. On Aug 15,

[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar

2010-08-15 Thread William
Waterford and Toyo? Wow, that's a lot of changes. I thought it was going to be a Taiwan frame. On Aug 15, 3:44 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: To save a call, I happened to get an Email from Grant this weekend, and he mentioned that they would be ready in September. I can't say - and he

[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar

2010-08-15 Thread Marty
I think I recall from way back that they said the forks were going to be made by Toyo, so maybe the frames and the forks come together there and then on to WC. I really can't recall what the logistics were, or if they were ever talked about. Not sure it even matters. It's a world frame for sure.

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Jim Cloud
On Aug 15, 3:19 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: There's no Consumer Reports of bike tires, either.  So if there was a diamond out there amongst all the hybrid tires, who would ever know it? Well, I think that Jan Heine has done a pretty good job of testing bicycle tires and this

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm living in a bicycle factory!

2010-08-15 Thread cyclotourist
If you gotta' live somewhere, might as well be in a (former) bike factory! On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Link to the proof here: http://tinyurl.com/23gk9au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

[RBW] Re: Is this rim wear unusual

2010-08-15 Thread Angus
David, If it were me, and it's not, but if it were...I wouldn't worry about it too much. Rims wear much more when things are wet, on-road or off. I clean and check the rims/brakes after riding in the wet to get out all the stuff embedded in the brake pads. I have a Sun Rhino-Lite rim on a MTB

[RBW] Re: I'm living in a bicycle factory!

2010-08-15 Thread Angus
Marty, What good luck! I like the picture of the factory pouring out black smoke...not something we would advertise today :-) Enjoy the unique home! Angus On Aug 15, 2:06 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Link to the proof here: http://tinyurl.com/23gk9au -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Beth H
Allow me to add my slightly more-informed two cents and say that I would also agree. My [wholesale] distros are telling me that few of them plan to widen their variety of 650b offerings for next year because demand has fallen off among specialty shops and their customers; and that demand never

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Angus
Michael, I believe Grant recently posted that he would make larger Atlantis sizes as a special order. I own a 64cm Atlantis and love it! Angus On Aug 15, 1:31 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Over the years, Rivendell has trimmed its offering of larger sizes, independent of tire size.

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 18:42 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: On Aug 15, 3:19 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: There's no Consumer Reports of bike tires, either. So if there was a diamond out there amongst all the hybrid tires, who would ever know it? Well, I think that Jan Heine

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Earl Grey
I would guess that even in the tiny niche of riders who love combined road/dirt rides, there are more 700C bikes than 650B out there. While Jan Heine claims that tires in the 33-44mm range or so handle best in a 650B size (see BQ Spring 2010, p. 19), I would love to see a light, supple 38-40/700C

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Earl Grey
Forgot to mention why the wire bead versions may be less desirable: not because I am a weight weenie, but because the added weight of the wire bead increases the gyroscopic force enough to impact the handling negatively (making the bike harder to turn, and the line through corners harder to

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread cyclotourist
While I think that sounds like the perfect tire, how many non touring or hybrid bikers are out there that can accommodate that size? Even among Rivendell's lineup, the lighter weight bikes (Roadeo, Rambouillet) wouldn't be able to run that size. You would need to get a Sam or an Atlantis. Not

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread james black
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 20:44, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: While I think that sounds like the perfect tire, how many non touring or hybrid bikers are out there that can accommodate that size?  Even among Rivendell's lineup, the lighter weight bikes (Roadeo, Rambouillet) wouldn't

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread Jim Cloud
I'm sure that we're not going to find an agreement on the RBW Owner's Group site.. I think, however, that this snip I took from Sheldon Brown's site pertaining to various sizes of tires that are available relates to my statement about the 650B tire size. 584 mm, 650B, is the focus of this

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-15 Thread james black
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 21:18, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I stand by my comment that the traditional 650B size tire, as it was used by the French was generally for loaded touring bikes - which they often referred to as the Camping model.  If some today are using the size for a

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 21:18 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: I'm sure that we're not going to find an agreement on the RBW Owner's Group site.. I think, however, that this snip I took from Sheldon Brown's site pertaining to various sizes of tires that are available relates to my statement about the

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 21:17 -0700, james black wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 20:44, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: While I think that sounds like the perfect tire, how many non touring or hybrid bikers are out there that can accommodate that size? Even among Rivendell's

[RBW] Rambouillet 650 B conversion

2010-08-16 Thread Jay LePree
Hi all, I have a Carrera Andromeda that rides very similar to the Ram., and so I am looking to change up the Ram. a bit. I have heard such good things about the 650B, that I think it would be an interesting experiment, and would change the ride and make the bike even more trail worthy than it

[RBW] Re: Bombadil sighting at Multnomah Falls.

2010-08-16 Thread bassandbike
That was my Bombadil! It was my second self-supported tour on it, and it performed flawlessly. It was the most breathtaking tour I've ever been on by far...Mt. St. Helens even cleared for a few moments so we could get some pictures from one of the viewpoints. It had been socked in with fog for

[RBW] Re: Bombadil sighting at Multnomah Falls.

2010-08-16 Thread Mike
Hey Patrick, it was great meeting you and your friends. Yeah, that climb out of Randle is impressive. I've done it as a descent and it's amazing, it just keeps going and going. And going. Gifford Pinchot NF is a seriously untapped cycling spot for folks in the area. I may head that way for a mini

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet 650 B conversion

2010-08-16 Thread Mike
I want to say that there was an article in the RR about 650b conversions and that it mentioned the Rambouillet is not a good candidate for this. Your best bet is to call RBWHQ today and ask them directly about it. I doubt they'll steer you wrong. --mike -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet 650 B conversion

2010-08-16 Thread Ken Mattina
Kathryn Hall did a 650b conversion on her Rambouillet http://tinyurl.com/nx3dnl On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I want to say that there was an article in the RR about 650b conversions and that it mentioned the Rambouillet is not a good candidate for this.

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet 650 B conversion

2010-08-16 Thread Rocky B
Yah the Ram is not a good candidate because of its already-low BB drop of 77mm. On Aug 16, 9:39 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I want to say that there was an article in the RR about 650b conversions and that it mentioned the Rambouillet is not a good candidate for this. Your best bet is

Re: [RBW] Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
So the principal advantage, apart from the other one of fitting fatter tires into frames that will fit only very skinny 622 tires, is that you can find nicer 38mm+ tires in 584 than 32+ tires in 622? I know that that is certainly the case for 559 and 571 -- id est, that only the skinnies come with

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread james black
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:06, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: So where's the champion? Did I say there was a champion? I ordered a pair of 700x37mm non-TG Paselas for the build I'm currently working on, and expect they will be pretty good, so the situation isn't totally dire for us

Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet 650 B conversion

2010-08-16 Thread Murray Love
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Rocky B rivvyr...@gmail.com wrote: Yah the Ram is not a good candidate because of its already-low BB drop of 77mm. On Aug 16, 9:39 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I want to say that there was an article in the RR about 650b conversions and that it

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 08:27 -0700, james black wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:06, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: So where's the champion? Did I say there was a champion? Well, exactly. It seems as though you have two choices here: explore the niche market, where you find

Re: [RBW] Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 09:24 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: So the principal advantage, apart from the other one of fitting fatter tires into frames that will fit only very skinny 622 tires, is that you can find nicer 38mm+ tires in 584 than 32+ tires in 622? I know that that is certainly the case

Re: [RBW] Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 09:24 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: So the principal advantage, apart from the other one of fitting fatter tires into frames that will fit only very skinny 622 tires, is that you can find nicer 38mm+

[RBW] RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread grant
We stock ten 650B tires, which -- does anybody stock more? As many? At least four bike models have 650B wheels. We stopped making biggies in 650, because the head tubes get long, but even up to the 62 Saluki, that was still OK. Right now we have ten 58cm AHH frames for 650B wheels---something I

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread art
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 05:05 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:  There are many good 700 race tires if that is your thing - and up to the mid thirties.  After that you have tires such as the Schwalbe BA which are wonderfully comfortable but definitely add a good deal of weight. On Aug 15,

[RBW] Re: FS Dynamo Light, 105 derailleurs, 650b Wheelset, Phil wood hub, tektro, velo orange

2010-08-16 Thread Andrew
Update. Everything is sold except for the Phil Wood Hub and the Velo orange stem. On Aug 16, 1:33 am, Andrew andrewkib...@gmail.com wrote: Selling parts from a project: 1. Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ CYO Led Senso Plus dynamo light in Chrome. Brand new, never installed. $85, please check

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread William
I gotta get me one of those 58cm 650B Hilsens. Saving up the pennies. On Aug 16, 9:40 am, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: We stock ten 650B tires, which -- does anybody stock more? As many? At least four bike models have 650B wheels. We stopped making biggies in 650, because the head tubes

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Bruce
For fewer pennies, check out the Saluki frame specials on the RBW site. Same bike, different decals. They keep the older frames which still linger at the same prices as they sold at originally. From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread bfd
On Aug 16, 5:04 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 21:18 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: I'm sure that we're not going to find an agreement on the RBW Owner's Group site..  I think, however, that this snip I took from Sheldon Brown's site pertaining to various sizes

[RBW] Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread Brad Gantt
Hi All, So, I am ready to mount my KS having secured the necessary (shorter) bolt thanks to Mark @Riv. Now my question is whether there is a method, rule o' thumb, etc. for cutting the KS down to size or is it simply trial and error. Not sure how much lean is appropriate for stability. Forgive

Re: [RBW] Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, So, I am ready to mount my KS having secured the necessary (shorter) bolt thanks to Mark @Riv. Now my question is whether there is a method, rule o' thumb, etc. for cutting the KS down to size or is it simply trial

[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread William
My rule of thumb is to tell Mark what bike I am putting it on, and he usually knows what to cut it down to. If you've already crossed that bridge, then Riv says 1cm at a time and iterate. I'd recommend following that advice. On Aug 16, 1:10 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, So,

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Bill Connell
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: Is the attraction that you can ride a bike that is custom fitted for things like racks, lights, fat tires and fenders? Couldn't a cross style bike with fenders, lights and racks work just as well? After all, you can race/train/rando

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The wisest amongst us yearn instead for conspicuous minimalist consumptionhttp://taticycles.com/p/396 : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1PN0/TGlE5XPP6nI/QNM/z1VA1Tug9po/s1600/Another+TATI+White+Label+Build.jpeg On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't get

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 13:04 -0700, bfd wrote: I don't get it what's with all the randonneur worshipping? I know people here consider racing to be a bad word as it represents all that is supposedly wrong with bicycling. Yet, randonneur is consider good?! Yes. There's very little resemblance

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread Bill Connell
Pffftt. Kids these days. Pull up those pants! Stand up straight! Comb your hair! Match those wheels! What, were you raised in a barn? And get off my lawn! On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The wisest amongst us yearn instead for conspicuous minimalist

[RBW] Re: Riv's Retreat from 650B in Larger Sizes, Optimum Tire Pressures/Sizes

2010-08-16 Thread JoelMatthews
Is the attraction that you can ride a bike that is custom fitted for things like racks, lights, fat tires and fenders? Couldn't a cross style bike with fenders, lights and racks work just as well? After all, you can race/train/rando on just about anything, right? Thanks!- Hide quoted text -

[RBW] Re: FS Dynamo Light, 105 derailleurs, 650b Wheelset, Phil wood hub, tektro, velo orange

2010-08-16 Thread Andrew
Phil Wood sold! Stem remains On Aug 16, 11:51 am, Andrew andrewkib...@gmail.com wrote: Update. Everything is sold except for the Phil Wood Hub and the Velo orange stem. On Aug 16, 1:33 am, Andrew andrewkib...@gmail.com wrote: Selling parts from a project: 1. Busch and Muller Lumotec

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:40 AM, grant wrote: I'm getting off-track here, but the point is, the 650B bikes don't seem to be able to compete against the 700s. Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Rob Harrison
LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle. Perhaps by the time I order my custom randoneause there will be lightweight, supple 700 x 38 tires, or I will have lost 30

[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread Dave Craig
Brad Do a search for kickstand on this group. There are lots of helpful hints on cutting and mounting. Dave On Aug 16, 1:10 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, So, I am ready to mount my KS having secured the necessary (shorter) bolt thanks to Mark @Riv. Now my question is

[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread Brad Gantt
D'oh! Should have searched first. Thanks for the tips everybody! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread jandrews_nyc
Oddly, I just got a twin-legged kickstand in the mail for my Hillborne, which has a kickstand plate, and so...I don't need the included aluminum spacer. But, Than Hex bolt is too long. I'm sure some of you have had this problem...How available are Hex bolts that width that are shorter. Anyone

[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread doug peterson
I cut mine twice it's still too short! dougP On Aug 16, 1:19 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: My rule of thumb is to tell Mark what bike I am putting it on, and he usually knows what to cut it down to. If you've already crossed that bridge, then Riv says 1cm at a time and iterate.  

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with a bike they can't get tires for. LOL, well, being part

[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread Perry Rubey
The back-side of the kick stand has measurements in millimeters on it. That's the distance from the center of the BB to the ground. With the bike standing straight, measure down. Then cut where the numbers correspond to the measurement. Take off about a 1 cm more if you are putting the black

[RBW] Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Si lver Shifters”

2010-08-16 Thread Juhani Laitela
I’ve some difficulties with friction shifting with my Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”. They work fine when I’ve my bike in repair stand and also when riding on flat or downhill, but when climbing uphill, especially with some load and on steeper hill, the rear cogs really make noise when

[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming

2010-08-16 Thread Dave Craig
J: The bolts are easy to come by at a True Value or Ace Hardware. I prefer the button head hex bolts they look a lot nicer than a standard bolt. Here's a copy of a post I did awhile back about bolting to the mounting plate - It has the dimensions of the bolt you need: The bolt you are looking

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-16 Thread Jim Cloud
When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension on the chain to allow the derailleur to move the chain up

[RBW] SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-16 Thread James Valiensi
Hullo, I've wanted to get the humble seat post (SP-60) that Grant is bringing in from Nitto. In his catalog copy he mentions snobbery attached to the use of the seatpost. I want to be a snob about something and this seat post is the most affordable way I've ever found. Does anyone know

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-16 Thread jandrews_nyc
It's retro-fetishizing, period-correct buffoonery. I want to get one too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-16 Thread William
The buffonery is made all-the-better by the description already insulting you for being an inept mechanic and having to struggle with it and cursing yourself for buying and Riv for selling such a thing. The hupe refugees must already feel the sting. On Aug 16, 9:19 pm, jandrews_nyc

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 20:37 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-17 Thread JoelMatthews
I did not receive the catalogue. Is there anything in the catalogue about the steel drop bars from Nitto? On Aug 16, 10:43 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hullo, I've wanted to get the humble seat post (SP-60) that Grant is bringing in from Nitto. In his catalog copy he mentions

Re: [RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-17 Thread James Valiensi
I saw the SP-60 on the web site (digital catalog). I have not got the paper one yet either. On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:54 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: I did not receive the catalogue. Is there anything in the catalogue about the steel drop bars from Nitto? On Aug 16, 10:43 pm, James Valiensi

[RBW] In Case You Missed It: New Clip for Large Shoes - Winter Boot Cycling

2010-08-17 Thread JoelMatthews
Bruce Gordon has been making swell half clips for a while. The three original sizes fit most shoes. Now he has added one more that will fit boots and large shoes. I am thinking about getting one for winter riding: http://www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ If anywhere near as good as the

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Juhani Laitela
Thanks for the answer. I guess I need to go to the closest hills and ride around until I learn how to shift :) Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill?

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-17 Thread JoelMatthews
With no word on the steel handlebars I decided to order my seat post now and pick up the bars later if they ever arrive. If the seat clip is not up to snuff, this looks interesting and has some good reviews: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=13716src=froogleUScurrency=USD Not

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-17 Thread JoelMatthews
Oh, and seeing as you have to buy it from the UK and all, there is snob appeal writ large all over that. On Aug 17, 8:02 am, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: I saw the SP-60 on the web site (digital catalog). I have not got the paper one yet either. On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:54 AM,

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread William
I think what he meant is the general comment that the more pressure you have on the pedals, the harder it is for your drivetrain to execute a shift. Selecting the right gear and sticking with it for the entire hill is one approach. The single speeders here certainly know what that feels like.

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-17 Thread grant
That is some great phraseology, jandrews! Thanks. Expect me to recycle it sometimes, maybe many times in the next quarter-score. As should we all! G On Aug 16, 9:19 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: It's retro-fetishizing, period-correct buffoonery.  I want to get one too. --

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-17 Thread grant
insulting you for being an inept mechanic and having to struggle with it and cursing yourself for buying and Riv for selling such a thing. No insult intended. For the record, I failed, Spencer succeeded, but even he, who volunteers at a bike soup kitchen in the city and has tons of experience

[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery

2010-08-17 Thread JoelMatthews
James V bought one. James, let's hear how you do with it, OK. Seriously time yourself. I am one of the more mechanically challenged bike owners I know. I placed my order today. Plan is to use with a Berthoud saddle - which, for those who do not have one - is already relatively difficult to

[RBW] For eBay: my entire Rivendell printed materials collection, and more

2010-08-17 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
Hello fellow Rivendell riders. I just started three eBay auctions which may be of interest to you. I hope it's kosher to alert the list with this email. Shortly I will also offer, direct to this RBW list, a whole variety of Rivendell, Brooks, and related items for sale. Thanks for your interest,

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 10:30 -0700, William wrote: I think what he meant is the general comment that the more pressure you have on the pedals, the harder it is for your drivetrain to execute a shift. Not necessarily so in the case of Hyperglide, which was designed to be able to shift under

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 12:52 +0200, Juhani Laitela wrote: Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill? That is a terrible policy. Shifting on a hill isn't

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread Esteban
Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:24 -0700, Esteban wrote: Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB):

[RBW] Looking for a ~60cm ride

2010-08-17 Thread Adam Kimball
Hi all, Ever since I sold my Rambouillet, I've lived on my Big Dummy. I love the bike immensely - maybe too much. After putting between 15-20 miles on it every day, my right knee is stuck in mild tendinitis. I've worked a lot on the fit, and do my best to keep the cadence up and downward force

[RBW] Deep Creek Trails?

2010-08-17 Thread Johnny Alien
Hey guys. I am vacationing in the Deep Creek, MD area and want to know if anyone is familiar with any trails in the area. I know where there are hiking trails and mountain biking trails but I am looking for something a bit more casual to do with my wife. If not I can always do some road biking

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