Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

2019-05-20 Thread Grant Petersen
I hope every time I say something ambiguous it doesn't make somebody shove his or her head up there. I'd feel even worse. I'm not NITTO spokesman, just a customer, but I've been there 20 times or more (usually when I worked at Bstone) and I know the deal there, and before NITTO'd come up with a lis

Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

2019-05-19 Thread Grant Petersen
NITTO sez the wider bars mean the stem wll brake first, and they'd rather the bar breaks first. We asked. We lead the way w ith 46cm, then 48cm. We asked for (and got a prototype of) a 51cm, but that turned out to be a stem-braker. It's cool that other makers do it, but we're sticking with ultra-co

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-09-08 Thread Grant Petersen
It's squished, tho. tire compat: it isn't designed for 3.0. just 2.8. In fact, most sub tires are 2.6. I am pretty sure there are no trails in this part of NorCal that require or are more fun or safer on a tire bigger than 2.3, at least at the speeds I ride. the bike seems to fit a 3.0 fine, but t

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-26 Thread Grant Petersen
The YouTube style of riding has upped the requirements for bike and fork testing, but the tests still aren't super reflective of how and why things break in real life. ALL carbon frames and forks pass the tests, and yet they continue to fail, because of the brittle nature of it and the unpredictabi

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-25 Thread Grant Petersen
It honestly wasn't intended as the kind of thing that requires thick skin, and I'll be careful not to say things that do. Sorry! On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:40 PM, masmojo wrote: > Grant, Mr. Masmojo has very thick skin; pick all you want. > I agree with everything you said there pretty much. > I

Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-25 Thread Grant Petersen
SML 27.5 XL 29 On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Steven Sweedler wrote: > > Has the wheel size been announced, 650 B for smaller frames and 700C for > larger, or is 26” (559) a possiblilty? Steve > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:28 PM Grant Petersen > wrote: > >>

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-25 Thread Grant Petersen
it may be. you've used a HiteRite? On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Belopsky wrote: > a good dropper is better. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-25 Thread Grant Petersen
You can still get Hite-Rites to fit 26.6 to 27.2 frames. $45 or so, Tommy Breeze (Joe's son) sells them--I think on eBay. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why wouldn't a dropper post work on a mixte frame? > > Philip > Santa Rosa, CA > > O

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-25 Thread Grant Petersen
aside from whatever real or imagined benefits there are to riders, the benefits of carbon and threadless to manufacturers are real and as concrete as concrete. Threadless forks eliminate a HUGE ongoing hassle and storage problem of stocking replacements for different sized frames. The fact that it

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-24 Thread Grant Petersen
A century of threaded headsets and 25 years of threadless suggest they both work fine. The rest is preference and defense. On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Virgil Staphbeard wrote: > Also, the addition of a decaleur or cable hanger in the stack adds to the > loosening potential ,provided they do

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-24 Thread Grant Petersen
The "secret" to properly snugging a threaded headset is to use two wrenches (in the case of a non-Rinko style). The spanner kind goes on the cup flats, and it's really helpful to use the Stein-type (now also made by Park) that's chunky and grabs around about 230 degrees and cannot slip. You lightly

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-23 Thread Grant Petersen
The Troll is a super nice bike---a FINE alternative to the now fully explained one we're going to have, Bob. (And has discs!) On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Bob K. wrote: > The more I hear about this bike, the more I like it. I almost wish I > didn’t love my Surly Troll so much, as this checks

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-23 Thread Grant Petersen
We're thinking of stuff about price. To be CLEM-like would mean all TIG, and that's--obviously--easier and still strong and all, but the first run will be mostly lug + fillet. We're considering some all- tig (minus seat lug) and may go half like that. Not sure.. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:10 AM, D

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-23 Thread Grant Petersen
Bless you, Jeremy! Where were you 20 minutes ago? On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Jeremy Till wrote: > I think, respectfully, that maybe we should give this thread a rest, at > least until further details of the bike are confirmed, as we're going in > circles. It was pointed out 6 pages ago t

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-23 Thread Grant Petersen
OK...I know there's no killing a thread, at least not without repercussions, but I'm not going to fee it anymore. At its best, developing a bike is fun, and this bike is pure that for me and the others here. It will NOT meet expectations, it'll barely miss the mark for most people reading this, the

Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-22 Thread Grant Petersen
Theoretically easier to adjust with the tools you're likely to have with you on a trail, but a few weeks ago I took a poll at work, and it revealed that in more than 100 years of cumulative riding on dirt and roads, nobody has ever had a threaded headset come loose. It can happen, but probably won'

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-22 Thread Grant Petersen
Nobody knows nuttin' yet. Well, not exactly nobody, and "nuttin'" is an exagerration, but it's fun to say, and it's my birth-month, so I get to. This is true: We (here at RBW) are having a fun time with it, and are taking every detail seriously. On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Drw wrote: > So

Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-21 Thread Grant Petersen
"...before murder comes to MIND..." Let's not start a thread with "murder" in it, OK? On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: > Joe, you have a lot of equity to burn thru before murder comes to mine, so > no worries there. There are lots of bikes

Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

2018-07-21 Thread Grant Petersen
Joe, you have a lot of equity to burn thru before murder comes to mine, so no worries there. There are lots of bikes with disc brakes, and I know I run the small considerable risk of being accused of being stubborn or hurting Rivendell or being a dinosaur and all that, but I just love the high visi

Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

2018-07-04 Thread Grant Petersen
We are united, independent, and dependent. I love Patrick, who isn't gay, as much as I love my brother-in-law who is. I feel bad for my role in the bickering, but not for saying what I said. I'm sad that good people are growling over it, but happy to see so many nice comments, too. Everybody's got

Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

2018-07-04 Thread Grant Petersen
If I get the last spot on the committe and can't make it to a meeting, Phillip gets my spot. If Phillip and I are running against one another, I'd vote for Phillip. On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I’d like to be on the monetary committee.

Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

2018-07-04 Thread Grant Petersen
There's a new BLAHG up, and it'll be up thru the weekend. On the surface it may seem to be adding fuel to the fire, etc., but if you wade thru the whole thing (as I have!), I don't think you'll find too much controversy in it. Grant "Possibly Incredibly Naive" Petersen On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:14

Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

2018-07-03 Thread Grant Petersen
I second the let's not let this one become one of those ones (and of course, Just Riding)... I don't want "Grant's Blahg" to become the thing that people read to get riled, but I also don't want to have to edit myself too much. I'm a lefty, and that won't always come across strongly because most of

Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

2018-07-02 Thread Grant Petersen
A trifecta, or a triple threat to our continued existence? We'll see.. we're working on a spider web frame. On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:12 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > That will make folks do a double-take. > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:1

Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

2018-07-02 Thread Grant Petersen
It'll be a first look at our three-top tube bike! On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLAHG again > Bill hits the "Refresh" button on the BLA

Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

2018-06-25 Thread Grant Petersen
I want a Noodle-moose too, Chris! On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Christopher Murray < chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote: > I will pre-order any noodle-moose bars!!! > > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

2018-06-25 Thread Grant Petersen
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:20 AM, ctifusion wrote: > Thanks for the info Grant. I can understand Nitto's position. I have a lot > of miles on those bars in road and "gravel" conditions and I don't get any > sense that they are weak or dangerous. > > Also, not sure what the deleted message said but

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

2018-06-05 Thread Grant Petersen
Originally I had "testicals," (in that use it was referring to men), then that became the proper spelling, "testicles," then Kim (the woman on the cover of the '94 Bstone cat), was helping with proofing and judgment calls, said to go with yoo-hoo, which I'd never heard of. In my circle, we call 'em

Re: [RBW] Re: How crucial is it to chase the threads a derailleur hanger

2018-05-31 Thread Grant Petersen
Now it makes more sense. I SEE our mechs chasing der hanger threads, maybe just figured if they saw a particularly "clean" one they might skip it. I'll find out the deal anyway, but might not "report my findings" here on le Forume.. just because...it'll be taken care of or already is, whatever. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

2018-05-24 Thread Grant Petersen
It's hard core low carb and has stuff about ketosis. Probably not surprisingly and sometimes maybe maddeningly, in its hardcoreness it gives tough scores to some of our favorite foods than, in a softer core world, are considered healthy. But what is tolerable before your pancreas is shot is unhealt

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Petersen
at this point, two ways to get a catalog 1. order something 2. call and ask in a week or so we'll have it online, for those who prefer a screen! On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I haven't, but then I told Riv to keep my donation, so perhaps they took > me off the list.

Re: [RBW] Re: Banana sax reviews needed. Stuff fall out?

2018-05-21 Thread Grant Petersen
About the Banana Sack, just an opinion : 1. Sway is often an unnecessary concern. There is a difference between an "on the bike" problem and an "in the head theoretical" one. 2. Security is good. The least secure mount, ironically, is the original intended mount, on the saddle loops. Then the Bs

[RBW] Happy Fantastic Rivendell Perfecto Shopping Experience!

2018-04-29 Thread Grant Petersen
It's not up to me, but I wish the subject titles like "Frustrated by Riv's lack of inventory" wouldn't stay alive for weeks. It may have made sense in the original post, and it's no up to me to change the rules of posting or threading or whatever, but tour inventory level right now is at the past 5

Re: [RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Grant Petersen
If at first you don't succeed, etc. It's an ongoing challenge, no doubt, but always a worthy one. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:43 PM, John Hawrylak wrote: > Grant's theme of "duplication" was stated about 5 to 6 years ago, but I > did not notice a large reduction. > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ >

[RBW] Atlantis-to-Poster (need not be long thread, just saying this)

2018-03-28 Thread Grant Petersen
Some of these questions or just unclear-confusing-redundancy things, like why both the JoeAppa and Atla will be made clearer in the catalog. On another note, this time about the Rivendell - David Lance Goines poster: DLG used the same printing device (press?) for almost 50 years, and it was about

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-26 Thread Grant Petersen
Damn. Well, maybe we can sneak it in the new catalog. No attributions, tho. On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > If you are selling both the original and the new version Atlantis you > could call the new version the “Longboard Atlantis”. Very Riv and very > California. > > -- >

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-26 Thread Grant Petersen
Not film. Pal Sean's iPhone, about 22 hours ago. He rode the 51, I was on the 56. On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Ryan Merrill wrote: > Were those pictures shot on film? > > Nice thumbie shot! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-22 Thread Grant Petersen
th these parting words: As good as the earlier Atlantis bikes are, the newie tops 'em, but the difference is subtle, and the bar and wheel choice have far more influence on a bike's spiritedness than the chainstays. OK! On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: > The p

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-22 Thread Grant Petersen
The point which I flopped in making is that a bike that "performs" at the fringes can certainly handle the middle, but not necessarily the other way around. I should have been more clear. Grant On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:01 PM, John Phillips wrote: > Grant wrote, > > "We've ridden a lot of bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-22 Thread Grant Petersen
It's like Mark said--you can wheelie, but the bike makes you have to try, which is good. I regularly ride my Chev and 59 Clem on the skinniest, twistiest, slightly illegal singletrack with a 180 turn and can still make it. The whole idea is to improve the ride, to discourage endos and wheelies, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

2018-03-21 Thread Grant Petersen
I'm with Ryan. We've ridden a lot of bikes, lots of variations, and we live surrounded by roads and trails no more than 15 minutes by bike away. It's not DP-Rocky Mtn style, but as BL and JW and other locals will attest, it's hard to beat. More important, we ride them. I admittedly don't have the c

Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour Power Thumb Shifters

2018-01-28 Thread Grant Petersen
The Silver2 shifters--many of you know this--are anatomically nearly identical to the SunTours from '82. We tried to improve where we could, but there wasn't much opportunity. The clamp is more versatile, fits more diameters. The rotation method no longer used the holes, but goes with florets on th

Re: [RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

2017-12-17 Thread Grant Petersen
Back from my short playdate... Going out again soon, but thanks for the correction on the PBH which should've been SH, or the other way around. It's fixed now. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Thanks for this. What is the sta -- does anyone know? It looks like a 57 > wo

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Grant Petersen
No, it's a prototype, something we'll be trying out and maybe do to a biggish roadish frame next year. I'm surprised nobody's said anything. It's fne, though! On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Ray Varella wrote: > No one has mentioned the diversion attachment, > Grant, is that the illegitimate lov

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Grant Petersen
No, I meant 610mm. World records. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Peter Adler wrote: > 610mm = 61cm = 24" and change. You mean 61mm, yes? > > Peter Adler > who bought a set of those @100mm cruiser Tektro DP sidepulls at a > warehouse sale a few years back, decided that the mechanical advantage

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Grant Petersen
Note to non-deacon Patrick: Your size is a mixte! On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > *That's *what I had in mind. Thanks. > > Non-diaconal-Patrick, who damn' well won't buy a 59, in ABQ, NM. > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Grant Petersen &g

Re: [RBW] Re: FS Rivendell Silver Shifters

2017-10-31 Thread Grant Petersen
I'm told, yes, That's what inspired the v.2, Dia-Compe has its own version using our tooling, tho. B, G On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:11 AM, lum gim fong wrote: > So the original SS1 is still dying out? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Grou

Re: [RBW] Roadini at RBW

2017-06-19 Thread Grant Petersen
The new seat lug doesn't care what the seat tube angle or any of that it--it rotates to accommodate. That is a convenience, but in the rotation dept it's no diff than a standard side-braze. The original Trek lugs from '78 or so were totally fixed angles, as were the dropouts, and each size had its

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

2017-06-03 Thread Grant Petersen
On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 9:02 AM, drew wrote: > I don't know if I would buy one (and since he's already said he's against > it, it would sorta make me sad) but I think it would be a good move for the > company and they would sell a lot. It would also help to differentiate the > models, which are ge

Re: [RBW] Re: The BLAHG, eRivs?

2017-05-18 Thread Grant Petersen
Apologies for the confusing last eight words of my post. It was all fine up to them..and even I can't figure it out. Oh, language! ("...has to be worked out in 'pedal' mode.") Whaaa--? On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > We won't sell eBikes ever--but that is not like me

Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on saddlebags? Swift vs. Carradice vs. Sackville

2017-04-19 Thread Grant Petersen
I should be clear about the future of Sackvilles as I see it/predict it. There's nothing on my visible horizon, but the two principles there are aging and there may be another reason that I don't want to say -- that leads to a retirement of both, and there is no middle-management eager or able to

Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on saddlebags? Swift vs. Carradice vs. Sackville

2017-04-16 Thread Grant Petersen
I spelled all of them wrong. I give up on those words. On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Shawn Granton < urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks! I'm going to save this up for the Grant Petersen spelling bee.😉 > > (By the way, you spelled occasions wrong.) > &

Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on saddlebags? Swift vs. Carradice vs. Sackville

2017-04-16 Thread Grant Petersen
I'm a good speller except for occassions, diahrhea, characature... the CT was just a fastly typed typo. I don't sweat the spellings for these posts, don't go over them. On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Just so's

Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on saddlebags? Swift vs. Carradice vs. Sackville

2017-04-13 Thread Grant Petersen
At some point in the distant but forseeable future there will be a scramble for sackville bags, and it will be lead by those who already have a bag made with the highest quality materials and a flat-floored pouch that doesn't tilt the load, and has a stiff lower lip and a flap-tongue that contains

Re: [RBW] Re: book of possible interest to Rivendell riders

2017-04-09 Thread Grant Petersen
nine years ago my then 13-year old daughter learned how and showed me how to make a true quill pen from a thick-stemmed feather. Shape the head right (see fountain pen) and dip it, and it holds it and doesn't leak. I'm sure you can get goose or tukey feathers online... On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:30

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant coached Bike Snob on today's blog post

2017-03-31 Thread Grant Petersen
It's an option, but it would require more self-promotion than I'm comfortable with. The original book plan has been modified, and there's bike content for sure. I probably won't say much about it, to avoid a major public belly flop...but *I *think it'll be a good one. It's taking forever because it

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

2017-03-05 Thread Grant Petersen
The 2017 Joe Ap forks are Atlantis-weight. The 2016s were between Sam and Atl. Both are strong.. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Wayne Naha wrote: > From the Blug, on the premier of the Joe Appaloosa: > > > If it’s “half Sam, half Hunqa,” howzit different than an Atlantis? > > Boy, that’s a goo

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

2017-02-26 Thread Grant Petersen
I'm still with Mary Anderson, and I like that, too. On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, BenG wrote: > First time I saw this cover I noted "with Mary Anderson" and I like that. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

2017-02-25 Thread Grant Petersen
My current publisher isn't interested, and an agent I know says the internet has made it obsolete. I don't think so. People still hold paper now and then, and it sold well back then and would do better now. When it was current, I had a lot of credit cqrd debt and checking account overdraft charges,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

2017-02-24 Thread Grant Petersen
Ben Davis "Can't Bust 'em" sticker. Yes, a Ritchey (good eye)--lugged and crowned from '77. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:44 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Double bandana! Bike with sticker! Regular clothes! Beginnings of S24O! A > watch! I hav

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-15 Thread Grant Petersen
Nobody here keeps score, but for the record...if we had a thousand Patrick Moores, we'd be fat and gorgeous. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > One -- I won't say problem, but one factor affecting a decision to buy > from Rivendell or from another online vendor or from a LBS

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-15 Thread Grant Petersen
ON LBS or ONLINE or combo: Not all ONLINERS are alike. At one extreme there is the late-20s guy who never left the house or ramped up his resume, but he got into bikes, and cleared the hurdles to getting a reseller's permit. He eats and sleeps iwhether or not he sells anything, but he likes to st

Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

2017-01-27 Thread Grant Petersen
Dream was good, probably acceptable given the "low car.." clue, instead of carb. tree to bike: MY answer was cork, but rubber (one person)--that's as good or better! snap prone fork is carbon, but one sharpshooter had aluminum, and...kind of works, too. if I were a dumb millionaire (for the reco

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2016-12-05 Thread Grant Petersen
Clothing companies with staff designers can please more people than bicycle companies trying their hand at clothing, that's for sure. Making one style and fit of anything and trying to fit the O's and I's, the short and tall, the ones who like a tailored fit and the ones who don't, and that's even

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-11-11 Thread Grant Petersen
Reginald! You're still around! I associate you with my garage and holding my then toddler old Anna like a football when trying to work...that was your era. Thanks for hanging in! On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:37 PM, R. Alexis wrote: > Those shifters look nice. Look forward to seeing how the final pr

Re: [RBW] blug notes

2016-11-11 Thread Grant Petersen
I truly and not patronizingly accept and celebrate all the different points of view. It's what you do with them. Non-believers can be mean or nice, same as believers. Variety is good! (And, my own opinions have changed over the years, too.) This is a terrific group. I don't frequents lists, but I

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-11-05 Thread Grant Petersen
The pricing of Silver parts and kits is "non-strategic" and is supposed to be person-friendly, so you don't feel like a bad money-manger for buying components separately. A critic could see the whole shebang price as not offering any discount, but we go at it from the other way. It's hard to apply

Re: [RBW] New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Grant Petersen
JIm, you win the covered HUH Prize, as the first responder to a contest most didn't know was a contest! I will send you something in the mail designed to elicit the same response again! On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:12 AM, James Warren wrote: > huh > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 27, 2016, at 9:

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-22 Thread Grant Petersen
This is an early version of the tightener screw. I'm not sure I like the options it provides--rather confusing. The current one has a pentalobe head (google it until we get the newer version up there). On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > I hope they keep the D rings. So convenien

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-20 Thread Grant Petersen
If now and then or from the start we call them Thimble Shifters---if we or I EVER do--Ryan gets a free pair. Since 'tis the season for voting, the polls are open till Saturday at 10 o'clock California time. Silver THIMBLES The SILVER part is alredy in the genes. That's the brand. Model would be T

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-19 Thread Grant Petersen
Downtube shifters are so much better than the original Campy shifters that were mounted on the seat stays. But even they were breakthroughs for the time--for the first time ever, a rider should shift remotely. We have a bike here with those "Cambio Corsa" shifters, and anybody who comes by can try

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-17 Thread Grant Petersen
We send the place an SLA file and they make it in 3D plastic. It's in SoCal, called...ForeCast, I think. It's a good way to go before metal..! On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Grant > > In the BLUG post, the sample/prototype looks like a white plastic. Was > that white pla

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread Grant Petersen
They'll be good replacements, yep. The ghost shifts--up in the mid and upper range, it may take two clicks to lock the gear in. It works...but it can be a challenge. I doubt I'll change my CLEMshifters, but they are a transitional species, maybe. On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Reid wrote: > So

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADINI tease on the BLUG

2016-10-12 Thread Grant Petersen
Road 700x44 is Sam. Roadini is a cheap Rodeo, for the most part. It'll fit med-reach (around 54-55mm) brakes. (I use "cheap" in a celebratory, not degrading way!) Sidepulls (or Paul bolt-on) B/O for Mark's Rack, but single rear eyelet below, so as not to encourage the fashionable monster front lo

Re: [RBW] Thank you and "Enjoy the Ride!"

2016-09-15 Thread Grant Petersen
If DP was sincere (and we all believe he was), then I doubt he's sitting home reading the gush and glowing...which isn't to say slow down on it, just that...he might not be actually reading it. I asked him to call and he did and I said *whuddup*, and he sounded as he always has (we've spoken to hi

Re: [RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

2016-07-01 Thread Grant Petersen
It's one chain, just more links. Most chains come 114 or 116 links. The 60cm Cheviot has a 56cm chainstay (our longest) and typically uses 123 links...so, to be clear, eradicate all heads of visions of double chain shenannigans. It is true that when you buy a boxe chains you have to buy two of them

Re: [RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

2016-07-01 Thread Grant Petersen
"Rocks in the top of the engine" is a phantastik fraze---I just wish it were more versatile so I could plug it in here and there during the day. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Doesn't it all depend on how many rocks are in the top of the engine? I'm > top heavy just bec

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

2016-05-03 Thread Grant Petersen
nt, they seem indestructible, even after riding through > streams and watching muddy water flow out upon emerging. > > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Grant Petersen > wrote: > >> >> >> The final adjustment takes some skill and time and experience and feel, >

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

2016-05-02 Thread Grant Petersen
Here's one, and forgive my continued warning. I promise you this is not good old fashioned reverse psychology. This style emerged because it's simple and it works. It got extinguished in the late '80s or early '90s NOT because after a hundred or more years some smart modern mechanic found a flaw t

Re: [RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

2016-02-15 Thread Grant Petersen
Ultra laid-back. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:05 AM, sameness wrote: > Tad Lude. Reeeally relaxed geometry. > > Jeff Hagedorn > Los Angeles, CA USA > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:35:03 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: >> >> Tad Lewd might fly as a model name...under the right circumsta

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe

2016-02-13 Thread Grant Petersen
As designers and manufacturers, we like (and have some kind of obligation) to try things ourselves that may or may not work on our customers' bikes. We're often asked about parts we haven't tried, and a lot of the time have no interest in trying---for reasons good or bad, but usually good. Keeping

[RBW] Re: Grant Petersen's views on mountain bike development?

2015-02-17 Thread Grant Petersen
I've changed my thoughts on handlebar height and toe clips...but I think I'm on more solid ground now. I see that MB-3 in the spread and ... it's begging for Bosco bars, and to be stripped of its toe clips! That was from 24 years ago, I think. I'll stand by the rest of it! G On Sunday, February

Re: [RBW] Re: New Hatchet Use

2014-12-30 Thread Grant Petersen
http://www.whitesboots.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=444 Whites Smokejumper Boots have high heels, and I always thought they looked like old granny gunshooter boots..and a few years ago I was at a trade show, stopped at the Whites booth, and I asked the guy there hey, why th

Re: [RBW] Re: I rode the Clem Smith proto this morning

2014-11-27 Thread Grant Petersen
so far, 59...but that'll fit to pbh 95 On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Kieran J wrote: > Amazing idea! > > Grant, what's the biggest size Clems'll come in? Apologies if this has > already been answered elsewhere. > > KJ > > > On Thursday, November

[RBW] Re: I rode the Clem Smith proto this morning

2014-11-27 Thread Grant Petersen
We want to get Clems complete, but cash flow never allows that these days, so when they come (late '15?) they'll be available as framesets. There's clearance for 55 with fender. Whenever we hit out target clearance, there's always complaints (from us here, too!) that "well, too bad it won't fit

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread Grant Petersen
The long mystery bikes (we sold ten) of a few years ago got me/us going on LW (long wheelbase) bikes. The ride is really good, but they don't fit in boxes well, for shipping. The dreamy ride of those bikes lead to longer chainstays on other bikes, and ultimately (well, maybe not ULTIMATELY) we

[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

2014-11-13 Thread Grant Petersen
Tiny thing, petty I'm sure, but "Waterford Atlantis" sort of hands off our hand in the bike to Waterford. We're happy and proud that Wford builds some models for us, but the things that make an Atlantis an Atlantis all came from us...so "USA-built Atlantis" goes down much easier here. On Frida

rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

2014-11-11 Thread Grant Petersen
I started the blog mostly because it's an author's respo to assist the pub in selling the books. It's not like--now I wrote it, now you sell it. Not wanting to rewrite every entry, I starting doing stuff that i don't do in the book--like photo food. It's easy, I do it at home as I'm making the stu

rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

2014-11-08 Thread Grant Petersen
Humans are omnivores, of course. I hesitate to say THIS, but if we evolved from apes, and it's understandable that we'd have some ape-like features--like a sideways-moving jaw, and eyeballs in front. Right now and for the last 200,000 years, our digestive system looks more like a dog's than an

rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

2014-11-07 Thread Grant Petersen
Many of the issues brought up here are addressed (I address them) in the book. Not to say that my addressing them carves them into even limestone, but the book can speak for itself and me, and I'd hate for somebody to hear "ketosis" or "diabetes" and assume that I'm wacky on either of those. I t

[RBW] Re: Bike Industry Controlled by Grant Peterson

2014-11-06 Thread Grant Petersen
About the influence thing, with practical bikes, and so on: I'm not dumb enough or falsely humble enough to deny that Rivendell has had influence, but to put it on ME gives me too much credit. As some have pointed out, lots of what we're doing with bikes has been done before in some form--bigg

Re: [RBW] Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?

2014-07-21 Thread Grant Petersen
I've got no Cranial connections, but I know who does. I like the new "9/8" designation(<---we can pronounce it "design-ation"), but we're sticking with the old standard 8/8, for the record. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > You're not grip-sniffing alone on this one, Sam

[RBW] Surly-Riv-rivalry?

2013-12-11 Thread Grant Petersen
We here are all fans of Surly and regularly (if not constantly) refer people to them, when ours are clearly out of range. I've often said, at least to myself, that a high compliment to any bike, even tho it doesn't sound like a compliment, is that it's Not Dumb. Surlys are not dumb. That is huge i

[RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals

2012-05-19 Thread Grant Petersen
I agree with all...but happen to have micro-knowledge about some particulars. The Grip King pedal has the best clearance of any pedal we sell...was designed to win and does. Much of this is obvioius, but here it is all at once: Pedal clearance is only a function of how far the pedal sticks out (rel

[RBW] Re: Extreme Exercize

2012-01-25 Thread Grant Petersen
Super neat and thanks, Michael. I love this stuff...as you've supposed. I'll finish reading it tonite. Thank you, really, for sending.. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: > A while back the Riv Reader published an article challenging the benefits > of ultra endurance events.

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-05 Thread Grant Petersen
Many of you will remember, and all of you can relate to Keith Bontrager's maxim from the late '80s: Light Strong Inexpensive: Pick Two It works to some extent with all bike parts, but even IT can't come to the rescue when the thing is just too light. Do you know the thickness of the braking surf

[RBW] Re: BuBar on Riv Site.........

2011-10-14 Thread Grant Petersen
Dustin's seen the bars, but knows if he divulges anything, he's in for it, and "it" is not pleasant. TapeBubba.MAY have seen them. May NOT have noticed them. We still have that thing going, where, if somebody posts a clear photo, then we raise the price on everybody's handlebars by $20, and bla

Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 11 Topics

2011-09-08 Thread Grant Petersen
Ahh...well, my slightly arrogant answer to that would be to translate the Latin for him. Tell him it means: "I'm stubborn, therefore.." The idea being that the brute hasn't heard of Descartes, and soitenly can't talk Latin-like! > >"Allingham II, Thomas J" Sep 08 12:39AM >-0400 ^ <#13247d

[RBW] dat funky Riv

2010-07-12 Thread Grant Petersen
Well, now I know how Louis Vuitton feels (I've always been curious). I've been know to have brain farts (and grain farts), but I'm thinking what lugs are those? They aren't ours. We did use Henry James crowns for about 20 frames for a while there, till we got our own. The dropouts are raised in bac

[RBW] What a diff a W or T makes in short words that start with "N O"

2010-06-27 Thread Grant Petersen
John Blish says: Grant has mentioned several times that he found his KickBike convenient for exercise and even occasional transportation during his time off the bike. He mentioned yesterday that he is *now* "pitching that lifestyle." He ha Grant Says: If I wrote "now" it was a mistake. Shouldn've

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