[RBW] Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Brian Hanson
In my semi-annual six-month bike makeover (still new to this, folks), I replaced some worn Jack Brown blues with Pasela 35s under my Honjo 45s (works, but tight fit), and put my Noodle 46's back on with a Dirt Drop stem with the new SRAM brake levers. I tried an 8cm Technomic, but it still felt

Re: [RBW] Did you ride your Rivendell to work on Friday?

2010-05-24 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I rode my Quickbeam to work and then down to the local Bike to Work Day rally. I'd convinced my company to donate some swag for the packets given to folks who registered. A good, if damp (it rained), time was had by all. The only downside was having to ride back to work after the rally (not the

Re: [RBW] Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 23:16 -0700, Brian Hanson wrote: As I was enjoying my new bike, I started thinking about all the 650b activity on the list, and I'm now wondering if I should try a Homer 700c to 650b conversion at some point in the future. Has anyone here tried doing this on a 700c

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread JoelMatthews
1. How much additional brake reach would you need for a 584 conversion, and what brakes provide that much? You would, of course, no longer be able to use those Silver brakes. I think the original Paul Racer brakes would work. Not sure about the bottom bracket issue. On May 24, 6:19 am,

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread rperks
See Steve's questions above and tripple check dimensions. Unless you have an odd small homer you are not going to find a brake tat will reach and the BB would bee to low for most availible cranks. I may be out to lunch on this but with an existin reach in the 60mm range and 80 mm bb drop you ar

[RBW] Re: Black 650b Synergy rims

2010-05-24 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
In fact, we have a similar setup on our Velo Orange Polyvalent Scorcher bike: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ I've ridden it a decent amount on roads, gravel, and singletrack. The Fatty Rumpkins are great, and 36-holed Synergy 650B wheelset is perfect for this kind of

Re: [RBW] Bike to work day

2010-05-24 Thread Sean Whelan
Rode to work as usual on a Steel Bianchi. Also ended up on the TV news and in the newspaper. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10142/1060087-490.stm (Photo 3, Black Jersey, Green Shorts). The newspaper shot is of me eating a cookie. All these years of riding, and the news media find me eating a

Re: [RBW] Bike to work day

2010-05-24 Thread Bill Connell
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Andy Williams awilliam...@gmail.com wrote: Friday was national bike to work day...or something like that.  How did y'all do? As it turned out, i didn't bike to work that day, because of last-minute prep for my daughter's birthday party. I have biked to work

[RBW] ORR 600k this past weekend.

2010-05-24 Thread Mike
This past weekend I rode the OR Randonneurs 600k--The Bad News Bears Go To The Beach. It was an epic ride. Great route with far more climbing than I anticipated, mainly via rollers and shortish climbs. There were periods of sun and tailwinds but also periods of heavy rain and even hail. I rode my

Re: [RBW] What is the actual width of current 26x1.25 Paselas?

2010-05-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/23/10 7:11 PM, Gary James at garyjames6...@gmail.com wrote: The 1.25 Pasela Tourguard I bought four years ago measure 28mm on the Mavic XC717 rim. I've heard that more recent Paselas measure more true to size. Is this true? Or should I go for the 1.5 instead to get a tire around 32mm

Re: [RBW] Re: My Tour de Cure Ride

2010-05-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/23/10 12:57 PM, Johnny Alien at johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Really? By specs the Pari-Motos regardless of tread are actually fatter than the Col De Vie and in real world comparison almost as fat as the Hetre. It seems like based on that the Maxys would be faster. One of the

Re: [RBW] Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/23/10 11:16 PM, Brian Hanson at stone...@gmail.com wrote: As I was enjoying my new bike, I started thinking about all the 650b activity on the list, and I'm now wondering if I should try a Homer 700c to 650b conversion at some point in the future.  Has anyone here tried doing this on a

[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Metric

2010-05-24 Thread JL
Bruce Glad to hear the ride was great! The link only accesses one photo. Is there a way to link a series of photos on Picasa? Nice to see you went with the tan wall. I just don't like the look of an all black tire. Jason On May 22, 2:58 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I rode the

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Aaron Thomas
+1 on Jim's recommendation for trying Jack Brown greens before attempting a 650b conversion. I have Hetres on my Bleriot and am currently riding Jack Brown greens on my Romulus. I prefer the JB greens! Aaron On May 24, 8:48 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/23/10 11:16 PM,

Re: [RBW] What is the actual width of current 26x1.25 Paselas?

2010-05-24 Thread Bruce
The 26 Ram will easily take the 37mm (26 x 1.5) Paselas. As it happens they're on my bike right now. There is room for a 38, but I don't think anyone makes a 26 x 38. Bruce From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net T I don't have much familiarity with the

[RBW] SFR 600K Brevet, May 22-23, 2010 - a set on Flickr

2010-05-24 Thread Eric Norris
Rode my Rivendell Road in the San Francisco Randonneurs 600K this weekend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/7215762400863/ We didn't get rain like the Oregon randonneurs (rain in Oregon? shocking!), but we did have headwinds on the entire outbound route. Photo captions

[RBW] Re: Bike to work day

2010-05-24 Thread RoadieRyan
Multi Modial bike and bus on Friday. The morning was fine, stopped at a Bike to work station and loaded up on coffee, scone and banana and hung out with like minded commuters. Cool overcast but pleasent. The way home was another story entirely, I got about 2/3 the way home with no issues but

Re: [RBW] SFR 600K Brevet, May 22-23, 2010 - a set on Flickr

2010-05-24 Thread rswatson
I'm impressed. I'm worried about a measly 400K next weekend and you guys are are already doing 600! Strong work! Ryan On May 24, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Rode my Rivendell Road in the San Francisco Randonneurs 600K this weekend:

Re: [RBW] Re: bar ends for woodies?

2010-05-24 Thread andrew hill
hi folks, thanks to Steve for selling me a used pair of bar ends that i could experiment with - i found that the cork grips slip over em pretty well, so i put em toward the center of the bull moose bars and voila - another hand position! :) here is a not-great pic of the cockpit that i

Re: [RBW] Re: bar ends for woodies?

2010-05-24 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:50 PM, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi folks, thanks to Steve for selling me a used pair of bar ends that i could experiment with - i found that the cork grips slip over em pretty well, so i put em toward the center of the bull moose bars and voila -

[RBW] Re: State of the List Report - May 2010

2010-05-24 Thread William
Is there a 'silverback' ID badge that should be authenticated when a newbie finds him or herself being politely reminded off-list? Seriously, though, thanks for the work. On May 23, 7:13 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Another Thank You for all the time and effort you put into the

[RBW] Re: SFR 600K Brevet, May 22-23, 2010 - a set on Flickr

2010-05-24 Thread Mike
Eric, great pictures and sounds like an awesome ride. 31hrs is a strong time for a 600k! My time was like 36hrs 15 minutes but at the overnight control I did hangout for an hour before sleeping for 4hrs. I'd like to ride a 600k straight through one of these days but you know, sleeping has it's

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
IMO, you'd gain very little and make the bike potentially dangerous to ride by doing this conversion. The Hilsen has ample tire and fender clearance. Not sure you'd improve that in a meaningful way by going to 650B, assuming you can even find a brake that works. The dangerous part relates to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: IMO, you'd gain very little and make the bike potentially dangerous to ride by doing this conversion. The Hilsen has ample tire and fender clearance. Not sure you'd improve that in a meaningful way by going

[RBW] Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread Ginz
Hello All, I am thinking about the setup of my Hunqapillar which will wear Bullmoose bars and Paul thumbies with shimano bar-end shifters. Is a rapid-rise rear der the best choice in this situation? Assuming the thumbies will be indexed and positioned on top of the bar, will I be able to flick

[RBW] Re: SFR 600K Brevet, May 22-23, 2010 - a set on Flickr

2010-05-24 Thread RonLau
Eric, Saw you guys on the last climb. Talked to Rob a minute and you guys look strong even after all these hours. Hats off to you. Ron On May 24, 9:21 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Rode my Rivendell Road in the San Francisco Randonneurs 600K this weekend:

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Mike
Hey Brian, give the Jack Brown Greens a try. I've been using them for brevets this year and really like them. They feel very different than the Blues. What's really surprised me is how well they've held up. Also, I've had no problems with flats... so far. If I remember correctly, there was a

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread JoelMatthews
clearly what we need is a parimoto or thereabouts in 700c. Ironic that the one big complaint about 650B is tire availability yet many wish the Hetre and Pari Moto came in 700c. I have not had a chance to ride on my Pari Motos (do not have my 650B frame yet). I can say that Kojaks are very nice

Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: clearly what we need is a parimoto or thereabouts in 700c. Ironic that the one big complaint about 650B is tire availability yet many wish the Hetre and Pari Moto came in 700c. Kinda makes sense, though. If you can

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread Jim M.
I think rapid rise is the way to go regardless of shifter choice. It makes shifting to a lower gear under stress a lot easier, and that makes a more sense when climbing. You don't have to take your hands off the bars to use thumb shifters. Thumb pushes out, index brings back; no need to use your

Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 12:21 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: clearly what we need is a parimoto or thereabouts in 700c. Ironic that the one big complaint about 650B is tire availability yet many wish the Hetre and Pari Moto came in 700c. Indeed, there is no comparable 622 tire to either of those

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread Dave Craig
I have rapid rise on my Bombadil with thumbies and shimano shifters. It is works great - no reservations. Dave On May 24, 11:57 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am thinking about the setup of my Hunqapillar which will wear Bullmoose bars and Paul thumbies with shimano bar-end

Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 11:41 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: IMO, you'd gain very little and make the bike potentially dangerous to ride by doing this conversion. The Hilsen has ample tire and fender clearance. Not sure you'd improve that in a meaningful way by going to 650B,

Re: [RBW] Re: Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:36 -0700, Dave Craig wrote: I have rapid rise on my Bombadil with thumbies and shimano shifters. It is works great - no reservations. I have plenty of reservations. If you are used to high normal, rapid rise is more properly known as ass backwards and you will go nuts

Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Brian Hanson
Hmmm - sounds like the idea falls into the just add another bike category. That works. I'm not too interested in creating a frankenbike - I really like the AHH. I'll just dream of the cushy Hetre ride until I can justify a real 650b ride. Thanks for all the input, folks! Brian On Mon, May 24,

[RBW] Protovelo on SF CL

2010-05-24 Thread franklyn
Not mine, don't know the seller. Looks pristine from the picture(s) http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1750015879.html Franklyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Aaron Thomas
Regarding what Steve wrote below, based on my experience I entirely agree, with the caveat that with the availability of JB greens, I'd take the upper limit of that sweet spot to 33.3. I'm honestly puzzled by the requests for a 700c Hetre. I don't really see the point of it, especially as far

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread JoelMatthews
I'm honestly puzzled by the requests for a 700c Hetre. I don't really see the point of it, especially as far as road riding is concerned (but maybe even for trails too). If you really need a tire that big, why not just go 650B and call it a day? While not exactly apples to apples, fitting a

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Jeremy Till
If you really need a tire that big, why not just go 650B and call it a day? Simplest answer? Some of us have a perfectly decent 700c bike that'll fit 40mm+ tires (a lot of new touring frames and monster cross type bikes can) and are interested in a smooth but fat tire. Don't want to have to

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread JoelMatthews
Yeah, but ... As others point out, not every perfectly decent 700c bike converts to a perfectly decent 650b. I got rid of a great bike to fit the space the 650b will take. If I had more space I would have kept it. On May 24, 5:27 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: If you really need

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Michael_S
not having any 650B experience tempers my input but the 700c -38mm Marathon Racers seem pretty supple to my uncalibrated rear. More so than the 35mm Paselas. ~Mike~ On May 24, 3:40 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Yeah, but ... As others point out, not every perfectly decent

Re: [RBW] Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread Gino Zahnd
I use Paul thumbies and flat bars on my Bleriot with a reg'lar derailer, and it's fine. I take it off road all the time. In fact, I'm about to take delivery of a custom Sycip 650B XC hardtail, and it will have Thumbies and a regular derailer as well. Also, you don't take your hand off the grip to

[RBW] Re: Did you ride your Rivendell to work on Friday?

2010-05-24 Thread Peter Andrews
Rode my single-speed Bomba (my only bike at the moment... mmm, well I do have a Cannondale F1000sl that's been hanging in the rafters for a bit). I ride it every day to and from work, which totals just about 11 miles or so. Helps me get out of bed at 2am. Puts a big fat grin on my face riding

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread EricP
Well, I've gone the opposite. To other, non 650B bikes to fit bigger tires. My own experience with 650B was less than optimal. For multiple reasons. At just about six feet, all present production bikes I'm aware of are too small. So, for me, a 700C Hetre might be more interesting, at least

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread EricP
Funny, didn't have any problems shifting over to low-normal. Two of my three shifter bikes are set up that way. Strangely enough, my off road bike is the only one without that setup. And I do have to be more careful during shifts on climbs with that bike. (But that is the factory build.) Now,

[RBW] Re: Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread Ginz
When you are white knuckled, is it easier to push the thumbie or pull the thumbie? It sounds like pushing is easier, which means I might prefer a top-normal. I use rapid-rise with bar ends, but when you can grab the whole shifter an crank on it, it has to be a lot easier. -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread andrew hill
i've got thumbies on my moosies, and i've moved them in a bit from right-up-against the grips, and even that way i can often shift simply by leaning my hand in at an angle. if i'd left em where Rivendell put em, i could have shifted w/o moving my hand in the slightest, though my big hands mean

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread JoelMatthews
At just about six feet, all present production bikes I'm aware of are too small. Mine is a custom. But on topic, seems to me the 57 Hilsen with Hetres would work with a 6 So, for me, a 700C Hetre might be more interesting, at least for the Sam Hillborne. Although clearance may be an

Re: [RBW] Bullmoose, Thumbies and Rapid Rise

2010-05-24 Thread Horace
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming the thumbies will be indexed and positioned on top of the bar, will I be able to flick the right lever forward?  If so, wouldn't I want that motion to be a shift to a larger cog?  If I can only shift the lever in one

[RBW] OT: Renting a road bike in Minneapolis/St. Paul

2010-05-24 Thread RonaTD
Hi folks - A couple of college classmates are hoping to be able to do some riding when we meet in Northfield, MN, next month for college reunion. Is there a shop in the Twin Cities area that would rent decent road bikes to them for the weekend? Thanks, Ted Durant -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Esteban
If I had more space I would have kept it. Oh, there's always more space... :) I agree with Aaron. If you want fast, supple, fat tires, a dedicated 650B frame is best, regardless of size. Its fun! It helps the movement. For a sporty 700c bike, nothing beats the Jack Browns in terms of

[RBW] FS: 2 Vittoria Cross XN Pro 700x32 pass hunter tires (folding) (or trade for Paselas, or M-Racers)

2010-05-24 Thread Earl Grey
These are great mixed road/off-road tires in relatively smooth conditions, or for bikes with limited clearance, but the dirt roads around here are rutted and rocky enough that I want something wider. Width runs true to size. Lightly used (less than 500 miles, just enough to round off the micro

[RBW] Re: OT: Renting a road bike in Minneapolis/St. Paul

2010-05-24 Thread Blindrobert
I rented two road bikes from Freewheel last summer - they were in good shape, well maintained. The bike shop was nice too - we went to the midtown center, which is on the little sunken railbed path that runs through minneapolis. here's a link:

[RBW] Trade: My Brooks Team Pro Black for your B-17 Special Honey (or Brown)

2010-05-24 Thread Earl Grey
Team Pro just broken in. Slight marks on nose and rear edge from turning bike over to patch a tube. Slight marks on right corner from bike falling over. See photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/ Marks are exaggerated by side-lighting. For saddle in similar condition, how about you

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread rperks
I will second that emotion, I love the JB greens, but would love a little more air at times - rob clearly what we need is a parimoto or thereabouts in 700c. I wonder how the schwalbe kojaks compare? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] mounting Nitto M-12 front rack on a very long fork

2010-05-24 Thread Earl Grey
Hi, I have a Hillborne with a Nitto Mini front rack, and would like to install a Nitto M-12 front rack on my Fisher monstercross (700C). The fork has gobs of clearance, and I have been told that these racks don't fit all forks, depending on the distance between the fork crown hole and the canti

[RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread Mike
I'll third it. A bigger supple tire for 700c would be great. I'd sure like to try 37mm JB green. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hetre?

2010-05-24 Thread James Warren
In my riding experience, there might be nothing to top the Rambouillet with Jack Brown Greens. As a 64 cm bike rider, I'll probably never do the 650B thing, but I don't think I'm missing out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4228790514/in/set-72157623929181002/ -Jim -Original