Joe,
"Semantics" implies the distinctions are trivial. If an obsolete term is in
common usage, it's a valid topic here, whether aromatic or not. When hams
communicate with the FCC or try to interpret the regs with undefined or
incorrect vocabulary, misunderstandings arise.
("Remote base" com
Hi Mark,
We are all here... some of us haven't been located by the
authorities yet. If you want to call my cell... 17074463419
and the brauts can be ordered with pepers and onions for .75
more... mmmhm good. Our booth is just up from
the Outside braut tent where the "cowgirls" ar
According to the "math", 15 kHz won't work for analog repeaters.
The "math" is also responsible for the umpteen 6M bandplans in use
across the USA.
It's not pure math. If only it were It's more art and opinion than
pure math.
Joe M.
Bill Powell wrote:
> Do the math: If you can't divide t
There wasn't enough money involved for the FCC to approve D* spectrum
request.
Our local RACES district acquired UHF and VHF D* repeaters, complete
systems with duplexers and $69.00 repeater antennas and feed line (unknown
type)
One complete VHF and UHF system as described above and a dual band m
How could they stop it when they are still issuing vanity club calls
(which a local club just got one of within the last month or so)?
BTW, all licenses have trustees. All repeaters have trustees. All
coordinations have trustees. When the time comes there is no trustee for
any one of these, the
I just got a stack of these old radios..
Does anybody have kpg-48d in their stash?
--
Jay Urish W5GM
ARRL Life MemberDenton County ARRL VEC
N5ERS VP/Trustee
Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5 145.230 PL-88.5 927.875 PL-103.6
A licensee is a person who is authorized to do something.
A trustee is a person *entrusted* with something.
(That's the legal definition of a trustee)
That something could be a repeater or a coordination or a license, or
any combination of these. In the case of my repeaters, I'm trustee of
all
So what's the answer:
1. Try to make room elsewhere for D*
or
2. Encourage Icom to make dual mode repeaters so those with analog
systems can simply swap them out and support both modes.
I would try for the latter in the spirit of cooperation and upgrade ease
on the part of the users.
Once ag
Well, where is everyone at Dayton??
I've been looking near the BRAT tent for Skipp, but not knowing what he
looks like to begin with has me at a severe handicap. hehehe
I'm wearing a name tag with my call on it, along with a wide-brimmed, brown
felt hat - and I'll be there again tomorrow.
C75CXB7106AT is a 75 Watt secure capable repeater station. It
operates in the 800 band, 806-825 MHz receive, 851-870 MHz transmit.
If your application is 800 MHz commercial, you're good to go. If you
were looking for a station for a 900 ham project - keep looking.
A comparable 900 MSF model n
Make sure you program the repeater activation and repeater hold in to
"Carrier and PL".
And if you are NOT using mixed mode(if equipped) sometime the station can
get a little crazy if left in the Carrier mode for the Hold in.
I have 6 of these stations and the vhfs are the only units that have thi
Paul,
Here's the breakdown:
C - Compa Station
6 - 70 to 100 watts
5 - 806 to 960 MHz
CX - Digital Capable
B - 120 VAC Power Source
7 - Programmable (PL or DPL) Squelch
1 - 25 kHz Channel Spacing
0 - Always "0"
6 - Tone Remote Control
A - Version
T - Repeater
You will need to provide the board nu
Hello Folks,
Is anyone able to ID this MSF5000 repeater for me please?
C65CXB7106A7
Kindest regards,
Paul VK2PDS
Speaking of which, if I read it correctly, 2-meters is now available for
auxiliary stations. Anybody dared try it yet?
Mike
WM4B
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:14 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoog
It certainly makes sense. With all the randomness in the universe, I
guarantee that two of us in the same town would probably pick the same
control frequency and tone!
Mike
WM4B
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Brown
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2
Dang Collin… I didn’t put your name and callsign together! Good to hear from
you, and I certainly not offended. (I take a better beating than that every
morning during 2-meter drive-time!)
I don’t get offended easily and I know from a couple of years of lurking that
this gang on here knows
Ron Wright wrote:
> Have not done the math, but for 25 kHz spacing as on UHF what about
> putting 2
> D* repeaters one + 6.25 and one -6.25 kHz from a standard channel.
You're starting to "think like" the folks who are trying to come up with
good ideas, now you've got it!
However... you forgo
- Original Message -
From: Howard Klino
> SERA does require that you co-ordinate your control frequency. It will be
> an unpublished frequency. Also suggest that you use a sub tone. They will
> probably request that anyway.
Missouri Repeater Council is thatway, too.
Ra
Have not done the math, but for 25 kHz spacing as on UHF what about
putting 2
D* repeaters one + 6.25 and one -6.25 kHz from a standard channel.
Might be necessary to seperate distance wise as we do for 2m 15 kHz
adjacent repeaters. Here it is 35 miles.
The D* rigs can do this and might be
DCFluX wrote:
> I believe this phenomenon is known as 'Quantar Howl'.
>
> I've suspected on chassis desence to be the cause, but I don't own one
> so I havent put serious effort into tracking it down.
Ick. Definitely someone will find it, eventually... if it's internal,
ick ick ick. External i
Collin,
No did'nt mean to think any spears were flying. I knew it was just
talking. I saw no offending comment, just struck me funny, hi.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
On Fri, May
Ron,
Good Day to you too. Well I know Mike somewhat and am sure he is
neither stupid nor would take an offense to my reply. Besides that he
asked the question first. I only replied. I certainly hope Mike has
taken no offense to my comments. If so I am sorry and apologize. Also
Ron my name is Co
I believe this phenomenon is known as 'Quantar Howl'.
I've suspected on chassis desence to be the cause, but I don't own one
so I havent put serious effort into tracking it down.
PL is not a cure for desence, just a way to hide it. If the
transmitter sends tone that will open the receiver if the
Great info given But something else to consider Where is the Repeater
Located , Maybe a Place You cannot get to Easy in the winter on a
Mountain Etc , I use the advanced research Preamps on My 440 and 220
Repeaters ,
They work Great Except when the GasFet goes Bad it is Like a 20 DB Or
m
Bill Powell wrote:
> First: It's not necessarily simple to change repeater frequencies.
> We are channelized in our repeater operation. In some places 2M
> channels are allocated in 15 kHz and 20 kHz (I hope there are no 25
> kHz) channels. D-Star repeaters can operate on ONLY either 5 or 6.25
Jim Brown wrote:
> Sensitivities in the order of .35 uV for 12 dB SINAD are common and they
> can be improved with a preamp, but if you are already using a receiver
> with .15 or so sensitivity, you will not be able to see any improvement
> by adding a preamp. In fact, it is quite possible to
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For D* there is the one issue of less bandwidth. D* occupies about
> 6 kHz, about 1/3rd that of analog allowing for putting 2 D* in same
> space as 1 analog.
This little tidbit of "information", courtesy of ICOM's bad
Holben SINAGA wrote:
> We have this annoying problem where the receiver squelch opens up on
> the Quantars and is retransmitted. It can happen to each repeater
> individually, or both can fire up at the same time. Generally, only
> white noise can be heard.
> The interesting thing is that bot
Kris Kirby wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008, Ron Wright wrote:
>> For D* there is the one issue of less bandwidth. D* occupies about 6
>> kHz, about 1/3rd that of analog allowing for putting 2 D* in same
>> space as 1 analog. This is not including what can be done with
>> digital such as putting m
Kris Kirby wrote:
>> Also correct me if I am wrong there is no way to turn off the dstar
>> system as in remote control? Maybe on the newer systems there might
>> be. I have also not heard a good sounding D system yet. Just my opnion
>
> I am not familiar with the ICOM products enough to be abl
Ron Wright wrote:
>
> Nate,
>
> On the IC91AD if one programs a memory for DV and it scans accross an
> analog signal on that freq the rig will remain there for short period of
> time, determine if not DV and resume scan. I have not tried setting up
> an analog freq and seeing what it does in
Paul Metzger wrote:
> Yes, the Motorbo radios can operate simplex on both Analog & Digital.
> Text messaging, non-intrusive radio checks, call logs, call alerts
> etc . . all work simplex as well. Just remember, the repeater
> handles the two time slots (two virtual voice channels at the same
wd8chl wrote:
>> I guess that's where we're disagreeing, or missing each other. Even
>> if the repeaters, rigs, and what-have you... HAVE a busy-channel-
>> lockout feature, no one is using them. So there's really no need to
>> add it to D-STAR rigs, if no one else using the spectrum needs
wd8chl wrote:
> Ron Wright wrote:
>> Nate,
>>
>> I should have said a repeater radio cost over $1000, but then again I
>> thought the discussion was about repeaters on D-Star.
>>
>> I paid $400 for the IC91AD. This is about the cheapest one can do
>> unless they get used like on e-bay. An equiv
Paul Plack wrote:
> Are there any repeaters left using club callsigns? If so, those would be
> the only repeaters which still have trustees.
Lots of them Paul, on purpose even.
Look up W0CRA or W0CDS.
W0CRA = Colorado Repeater Association
W0CDS = Colorado D-STAR Association
In the former, it'
Storer, Darren wrote:
> High level functional overview:
>
> http://www.g7lwt.com/documents/dv/gb3mi_gb7mi.pdf
I assume you have no IRLP or D-STAR Gateway attached to either repeater,
or you could have one of those trigger a transmission from either GB7MI
(D-STAR Gateway) or GB3MI (IRLP/EchoLi
After a few hours of frustrating adjustments, I still could not match
a (recently shortened) Decibel Products PD-210 antenna I was
modifying for use on our 52.88 repeater. Initially, I used an HP-
8920 and SWR bridge and could not adjust the "trombones" any better
than -8dB return loss. I am u
Stupid is a relative thing… I’m considerably more stupid Monday morning then I
am Friday night!
Mike
WM4B
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ron Wright
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:44 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeate
On Fri, 16 May 2008, Ron Wright wrote:
> For D* there is the one issue of less bandwidth. D* occupies about 6
> kHz, about 1/3rd that of analog allowing for putting 2 D* in same
> space as 1 analog. This is not including what can be done with
> digital such as putting more than one set of user
Howard, there are a couple of things to keep in mind on installing a preamp:
1. The losses in the duplexer and feedline cannot be made up in a preamp placed
at the receiver input. You can increase the receiver gain with a preamp, but
those losses are not recoverable.
2. You want to place the p
we use a lot of TX RX products
John
- Original Message -
From: Howard
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp Info Wanted
Hello to all and thanks for reading.
I am in the market for a preamp for my
Hello to all and thanks for reading.
I am in the market for a preamp for my 2 Meter repeater. I am not
looking to invite intermod so am asking for suggestions on what to
buy. I am only looking to compensate for losses in feedline-cavities
so huge gain is not required. As a matter of fact, I am ass
Many repeater coordinators want to know control freqs so they can advise
if maybe a repeater input/output they want to protect. This way someone
not so familiar with the band plans does not put something on that will
lead to problems for both another repeater or to ones self. Also the
coord
anyone have any information they care to share about operating these
units?
Ok, now that I stripped all the darn yahoo HTML crap ... here is my
answer to the reply.
1) If you have old firmware .. buy an upgrade!
2) (the simple solution) - Check your programming on your channel
information screen. Make sure repeater activation and repeater hold in
are set to "Carrier
Jordan
would you have 2 or 4 channel elements of Master 2,Vhf low split
73/s
Gevrais ve2ckn
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:39:23
-0400Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II cards and modules
let me check with the two guys I know who two Mastr II wor
Collins,
Well how stupid do you think Mike is??? :) Your comment "No you are not
too stupid to do this" caught my eye, hi.
Got my first laugh of the day. Seems I don't get those much anymore.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater T
let me check with the two guys I know who two Mastr II work before you
deep-6 them.
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:20 PM, twoway_tech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a bunch of GE Mastr II boards and modules. Repeater control,
> 10V cards, and more. Some of them are standard cards and some are f
Dear Quantar expert,
We have this annoying problem where the receiver squelch opens up on
the Quantars and is retransmitted. It can happen to each repeater individually,
or both can fire up at the same time. Generally, only white noise can be heard.
At times, the system can lock up and only way t
I have in my possession a GE Mark V? 850-870Mhz 100Watt PA & Wacom 987
Duplex/Notch Cavity.
Does anybody have any experience in using this PA for the 902-927 Mhz
Band Plan? It has a Circulator in it for 850-874 (Which I know will
need to removed or replace), I know the PA Chips are rated for 85
I have in my possession a GE Mark V? 850-870Mhz 100Watt PA & Wacom 987
Duplex/Notch Cavity.
Does anybody have any experience in using this PA for the 902-927 Mhz Band
Plan? It has a Circulator in it for 850-874 (Which I know will need to
removed or replace), I know the PA Chips are rated for 85
Dear Quantar expert,
We have this annoying problem where the receiver squelch opens up on
the Quantars and is retransmitted. It can happen to each repeater individually,
or both can fire up at the same time. Generally, only white noise can be heard.
At times, the system can lock up and only
Paul,
Maybe we are intermixing comments talking about 2 different issues.
My comments were to say you can be the trustee and licensee with my call
on a repeater. I am the trustee and my call is on the repeater, both.
I was responding you saying "If your callsign is on the repeater, you
are
The repeaterbuilder website has a old QST article on building a set of 2 meter
duplexers.
Sent by Good Messaging (www.good.com)
-Original Message-
From: Alexandre Souza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
To: Repeater-Builder@
SERA does require that you co-ordinate your control frequency. It will be an
unpublished frequency. Also suggest that you use a sub tone. They will
probably request that anyway.
Howard K2IMO
For D* there is the one issue of less bandwidth. D* occupies about 6
kHz, about 1/3rd that of analog allowing for putting 2 D* in same space
as 1 analog. This is not including what can be done with digital such
as putting more than one set of users on one repeater using TDMA or some
sort of
_
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:59 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DSTAR / DIGITAL / FCC Denies Petition to
Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital
On Thu, 15 May 2
Collin,
I had time to sit with the manual last night and learned a lot about what the
CAT-1000 will do. It offers Control Receiver, Link, and Remote Base modes for
the 2nd radio port, (DIP switch selectable) each with varying degrees of DTMF
control allowed. (The CAT-1000 manual claims to
On Thu, 15 May 2008, KF4TNP wrote:
> D STAR DOES NOT NEED ITS OWN PLAN if all communication are done
> correctly and thing thought out . There is plenty of room if people
> would work together but too many are stuck on OLD
I would be inclined to agree with you, however most existing repeater
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