RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IFR 1600S

2009-08-31 Thread Eric Vincent
Hello group, I will try to have this document and I will save it on my system. Thank you Gary for your help ! Eric VE2VXT /VE7 _ De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Gary Hoff Envoyé : 30 août 2009 21:12 À :

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IFR 1600S

2009-08-31 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
The IFR1600S operators manual is up at www.repeater-builder.com along with a couple of relevant applications notes from Agilent that a ham from NASA/JPL sent me. Click on Test Equipment and then on Aeroflex / IFR. As long as I am discussing IFR, it would really help others if people would look

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IFR 1600S

2009-08-31 Thread Eric Vincent
THANK YOU from VE2VXT /VE7 in British Columbia. 73’ Eric _ De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Mike Morris WA6ILQ Envoyé : 30 août 2009 23:19 À : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nearby Repeaters

2009-08-31 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Sun, 8/30/09, WA3GIN wa3...@comcast.net wrote: From: WA3GIN wa3...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nearby Repeaters To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 10:37 PM 4 miles ***   If I understand it correctly you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] information requested re broadband internet canopy equipment interference

2009-08-31 Thread Paul Kelley N1BUG
Hi Bruce, I am currently experiencing similar problems with a Canopy system that went on a nearby tower. However in my case it turns out to be their 900 MHz not the 5.8 GHz backhaul. It appears to be intermod since it only happens when my 147 MHz transmitter is up. There have been other

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDR700 Repeater

2009-08-31 Thread Scannr
Howdy Mike What controller does your CDR700 have? Steve -Original Message- From: Mike Mullarkey k7...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, Aug 30, 2009 12:50 pm Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDR700 Repeater

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: EOC Frequencies Available?

2009-08-31 Thread David Jordan
I think the requirement over here is Technician class. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dmur...@verizon.net Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:20 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nearby Repeaters

2009-08-31 Thread MCH
When all the engineering deficiencies are addressed, it doesn't matter what the tones are. Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: On Aug 30, 2009, at 2:00 PM, n...@no6b.com wrote: IMO, if different CTCSS freqs. are required to keep co-located amateur systems from talking to each other, there is an

[Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread ka2ajh
Hi Guys, We spent most of yesterday working on a UHF Mastr II Exec. Repeater, we are using a TRAM 1481 Dual Band Antenna on. This is the high gain 8.3 dB VHF/11.7 UHF. The system uses UHF Repeater, VHF Simplex, and IRLP. The antenna works very poorly on UHF and much better on VHF. The SWR is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: EOC Frequencies Available?

2009-08-31 Thread David Jordan
That was a good recommendation whoever made it. I heard NAVY MARS has been shut-down. Please go direct on further discussion about MARS.doesn't have much to do with repeaters. dave _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: EOC Frequencies Available?

2009-08-31 Thread Richard
Navy MARS is also requiring a general license. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'present' or 'not guilty.' --President Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) _ From:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: IFR 1600S

2009-08-31 Thread shibukiau
Thanks again Gary --- I got the manual off the Repeater Builder site and started to read through it -- looks like I'll be at it for quite a while!!! Thanks to you, Mike, for the posting and the excellent Repeater site and everyone else who have shared their experiences with me!! Great bunch of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Sounds like maybe a bad antenna. Don't use the foil/braid cable anywhere in a repeater system. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: ka2ajh ka2...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band

[Repeater-Builder] Re: information requested re broadband internet canopy equipment interference

2009-08-31 Thread vk5ztv
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ve1ii bhar...@... wrote: 5 gigs When testing, when none of the six panels were powered there was no noise. When only one panel was turned on the noise was not very strong but as each of the others were turned on the noise increased. One of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread n3fe
Good Morning/Afternoon Jim! Not sure about the Antenna, I know Randy's (HJC) is working great! Any type of double shielded coax/feedline anywhere in the system will cause problems. As the temp inside or outside changes it can cause the shield to rub together and make a lot of noise on the

[Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-08-31 Thread wmhpowell
Help! The FCC rules on narrow-banding seem to be contradictory when it comes to determining if VHF low band must be converted to narrow band. On one hand, the FCC states that All below 512 MHz which implies VHF low but on the other they specifically mention VHF high and UHF, specifically NOT

[Repeater-Builder] UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hello Everyone, I need to make some short jumpers UHF-male to UHF-male and have a length of 1/2 Andrew Superflex on order (actually eBay). Can I use regular silver-teflon PL259's with this cable, similar to how 1/4 superflex is used with the reducer? I can't find UHF Male connectors for 1/2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sources of Maxtrac's

2009-08-31 Thread Rich Osman
The FCC ID is band dependent. The manual has a table on ranges and that includes the FCC IDs John Sehring wrote: I haven't had much luck locating low band, low split Maxtrac's for use on 10m. These radios' model numbers don't tell what split it is; you have to crack open the radio,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread no6b
At 8/31/2009 06:33, you wrote: Hi Guys, We spent most of yesterday working on a UHF Mastr II Exec. Repeater, we are using a TRAM 1481 Dual Band Antenna on. This is the high gain 8.3 dB VHF/11.7 UHF. The system uses UHF Repeater, VHF Simplex, and IRLP. The antenna works very poorly on UHF and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread kt...@ameritech.net
Jim, Thank you VERY much for trying this and letting me know. That will save me a lot of time with this project. I have read an article that uses 1/4 superflex with PL259 and UG176 reducers, and will order some new cables and connectors for the jumpers I need. Superflex is cheaper than RG214

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread no6b
At 8/31/2009 09:03, you wrote: Good Morning/Afternoon Jim! Not sure about the Antenna, I know Randy's (HJC) is working great! Any type of double shielded coax/feedline anywhere in the system will cause problems. As the temp inside or outside changes it can cause the shield to rub together

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Jim Cicirello
Tony, I just took a piece of ½” Superflex that previously had a connector on it and tried to place a PL259 UHF MALE on it. The corrugation on the superflex is larger than the ID of the connector. The connector will go over the center dielectric but the copper corrugation on the superflex is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've used 1/4 superflex with PL259 reducer. Works fine. Seems like I had to drill the reducer, but that's easy anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: kt...@ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Chris Curtis
3/8 superflex works pretty good with regular pl-259. It screws right onto the jacket. Then solder the corrugated copper through the holes of the pl-259 I've used the 1/4 w/reducer as well. I also drilled the reducer to get all the way to the copper. Chris Kb0wlf -Original Message-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread n3fe
Thanks for the correction Bob. I think it was still a little early for me when I typed that email. Corey N3FE On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:14:58 -0700, n...@no6b.com wrote: At 8/31/2009 09:03, you wrote: Good Morning/Afternoon Jim! Not sure about the Antenna, I know Randy's (HJC) is working

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Tony KT9AC
Thanks Chris. So using 3/8 superflex and silver PL259 seems tight enough? Would be better than using silver connector and nickel reducer. Just trying to build two 3' jumpers to replace old RG9. How tight can you bend the 3/8? I might also need to rebuild a duplexer replacing old/missing

[Repeater-Builder] How better coax made me happy -- WAS: Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread Cort Buffington
Not to beat a dead horse or anything (I know we talk about this a lot) but once I started using RG400 (I know 142 is popular, I like the flexibility of the 400) on everything interconnect (which are all short) and hardline to the antenna, I've had no coax induced noise. Period. I'm not

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-08-31 Thread ka1jfy
90.203 (j)3 specifies narrowband requirements ONLY for 150-174 and 421-512 MHz bands. 90.210 (b)5, 'Bandwidth limitations'. 20 kHz is the standard 'Authorized bandwidth' for 25-50 MHz operations. No optional 11.25 or 6. WalterH --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wmhpowell w...@...

[Repeater-Builder] adjacent repeaters linked

2009-08-31 Thread skipp025
I pulled off linking two adjacent 224MHz Repeaters. The repeaters are on different 30 mile distant mountain top sites. One repeater has an on-band linking radio (Alinco DR-235) set up on the adjacent frequency. As an example... 224.960 and 224.940MHz. With enough physical isolation,

[Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread Tom W2MN
JIM KA2AJH, I use the TRAM 1480 (also Workman version) in several installations and they all work well. I have not had any problems or failures. The 1481 has additional collinear sections on top (making it about 6 ft taller). The TRAM and WORKMAN antennas are ELECTRICALLY similar to DIAMOND

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Chris Curtis
I really like the 3/8 superflex. I can usually find a 30' piece on ebay with factory n male connectors on it for cheap. Then I cut a length leaving an N on and put a pl-259 on the other to go from bigger hardline to a diplexer or other UHF fitting bit. Keep cutting from that end for other cables

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread larynl2
Chuck, if you use a reducer made for RG59 (and RG8X?) there's no need to drill. Perfect fit. Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... wrote: I've used 1/4 superflex with PL259 reducer. Works fine. Seems like I had to drill the reducer, but that's easy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I wasn't sure, but that rings a bell. I think I had to drill out the ones for RG58 because that's all I had on hand. You know how that goes ;-) Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: larynl2 lar...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:22 PM

[Repeater-Builder] Re: information requested re broadband internet canopy equipment interference

2009-08-31 Thread ve1ii
Hi Rodney and others. The CAT5 cables are definitely shielded and I suspect that they are properly terminated. There are 10 CAT5 cables in total and an LMR200 cable. I suspect the LMR200 goes to a GPS unit which is on the tower. Six of the CAT5's go to the six panels and likely the other four

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread Jim Cicirello
Tom, Thanks for the information. This gives us an idea of what to expect when we tear it down. We might find a combination of these things that is giving us the problem. 73 JIM KA2AJH From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom W2MN

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: information requested re broadband internet canopy equipment interference

2009-08-31 Thread Andrew Seybold
I would also look at the termination of the Cat 5 cables as well as looking at any router which is in the system-we have seen, as numerous sites, that Wi-Fi switches and routers are not very well shielded and produce a TON of garbage in the 140-172 MHz band at least-I am not sure what components

Re: [Repeater-Builder] adjacent repeaters linked

2009-08-31 Thread Nate Duehr
Serious question: Why is linking two repeaters via RF okay and linking via IRLP wasting everyone's time? Isn't the owner also wasting the time of the people in the coverage area of Repeater #2 when a QSO is happening on Repeater #1 by this logic? Do you have that many users on 220 out there,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: information requested re broadband internet canopy equipment interference

2009-08-31 Thread Nate Duehr
We saw some noise from a similar setup, and it went away after three things were done. 1. The wireless ISP replaced the Unshielded Twisted-Pair they were using for the Ethernet and Power-Over-Ethernet to the units, with Shielded Twisted Pair and properly GROUNDED the shield. (Some ISP's will

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: information requested re broadband internet canopy equipment interference

2009-08-31 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Is the interference present on your receiver when your transmitter isn't activated, or is it only there when your transmitter is transmitting? I've seen several different types of TDD systems that cause near-field interference when subjected to high power RF in VHF or UHF. Matthew Kaufman

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-08-31 Thread MCH
No optional 11.25 or 6 You can always use *less* than the *maximum authorized* bandwidth. If you couldn't, all the radios with low deviation would be illegal. For that matter, try finding a Low Band radio on Land Mobile that uses 20 kHz bandwidth. All the ones I've seen use 16 kHz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] IFR 1600S

2009-08-31 Thread R.K. Brumback
I had two of those within a year and both failed. I finally purchased a HP and have had no problems since. This is not to say there are not good 1600's out there. I liked them what time they did work. Randy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I have the big Tram dual band antenna and it works real well, however, i the one you have is used you may need to disassemple it and disconnect the junctions on the elements and clean the copper with scotchbrite or emery colth until shiny and reassemble the antenna. This tarnishes with age and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-08-31 Thread Gary
Don't know where you got the below 512Mhz comment from (except perhaps a sloppy comment in a recent article printed in Urgent Communications) but here's what the R O really says; Earlier in this proceeding, the Commission took the following actions in order to bring about a timely transition to

[Repeater-Builder] Batteries /Shelby HF (OT)

2009-08-31 Thread n3dab
Some one posted a message a short while back about taking a load of batteries to the Shelby HF this coming weekend. I can't find the original post and am hoping he reads this post. I'm looking for 6 of the WP7.2-12 (7.2amp/12v)if he has any and if he will be taking them to Shelby. Please

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Batteries /Shelby HF (OT)

2009-08-31 Thread JohnS
He is Robin Midgett, K4IDC - 615-301-1642 Call him tomorrow evening, he goes to bed early. John Some one posted a message a short while back about taking a load of batteries to the Shelby HF this coming weekend. I can't find the original post and am hoping he reads this post. I'm looking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Batteries /Shelby HF (OT)

2009-08-31 Thread JohnS
Sorry, That was supposed to be a private reply. He is Robin Midgett, K4IDC - 615-301-1642 Call him tomorrow evening, he goes to bed early. John Some one posted a message a short while back about taking a load of batteries to the Shelby HF this coming weekend. I can't find the

[Repeater-Builder] Sources of Maxtrac's

2009-08-31 Thread John Sehring
Thanks for the reply, Rich. What manual are you referring to, Motorola or an FCC thing?  I do have pretty much complete Maxtrac paperwork, thanks to the guys at Repeater Builder. --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Rich Osman li...@ozindfw.net wrote: From: Rich Osman li...@ozindfw.net Subject: Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Fw: Sources of Maxtrac's

2009-08-31 Thread John Sehring
How about FCC ID ABZ89FT1620. Can you make sense of that? Thanks. --John --- On Mon, 8/31/09, John Sehring wb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Sehring wb...@yahoo.com Subject: Sources of Maxtrac's To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:50 PM Thanks for the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Sources of Maxtrac's

2009-08-31 Thread Rich Osman
The manual I referred to is the Motorola manual. The FCC ids are usually given up front near where the model table data is. Some of the talkies only have one FCC ID for all subranges in a band, but usually not. First step is Google the ID and see what you see. Looks like 42-50 split.