Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-07 Thread MCH
His antenna could be in a null. It happens, as Murphy is a ham. Joe M. W3ML wrote: Thanks to everyone for their comments and answers about my questions. I did turn it back so I am sure someone will say something. Once when a ham said he could not hit it, I drove over and sat outside his

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Msf5000 Low Power alarms

2010-09-04 Thread MCH
values from its previous home. They need to be reset to FACTORY default for CONVENTIONAL stations. Non-trunking=no RF sensor = Factory setpoint value of 00,FF. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: How do you set it back to normal? Joe M. Richard Arnold wrote

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread MCH
It's not a real Ringo unless it's a very, very early one. The Ringos used round (whatever that is called at the bottom - the ring part). They also had the feedpoint come perpendicular to the ring rather than (what appears to be) parallel gamma matched. Joe M. La Rue Communications wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wouxun Radio

2010-08-31 Thread MCH
Yes, it can run split tone/code. I tried it to confirm it. But, it will not run both tone *and* code at the same time. If you select one, it 'zeroes out' the other. Joe M. n...@no6b.com wrote: I see from the manual that the TX RX CTCSS frequency settings are separate. I'm wondering if

Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?

2010-08-29 Thread MCH
GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wouxun Radio

2010-08-29 Thread MCH
That's the ID mine has on it, and if you look it up on the FCC website, you will find that it is Part 90 accepted for 136-174 MHz, and 406.1-470 MHz. Granted on 2/16/2010. For those who are speculating about the legitimacy of the FCC ID, or the fact that it exists: It does exist, it is printed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wouxun Radio

2010-08-29 Thread MCH
Oh, and they are also spec'ed for both 16K0F3E and 11K0F3E bandwidths. Joe M. MCH wrote: That's the ID mine has on it, and if you look it up on the FCC website, you will find that it is Part 90 accepted for 136-174 MHz, and 406.1-470 MHz. Granted on 2/16/2010. For those who

Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?

2010-08-29 Thread MCH
Nope. In fact, only the higher end radios came with locks, and today almost none of them come with locks. Joe M. Glenn (Butch) Kanvick wrote: All commercials radios have locks on them. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?

2010-08-29 Thread MCH
? Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W *From:* MCH m...@nb.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrowband Range -was- Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-28 Thread MCH
I would agree with the quality issues, but does that really equate to unintelligibility on any significant scale? Joe M. Matthew Kaufman wrote: On 8/27/2010 8:18 PM, wb6dgn wrote: If you reduce the modulation without reducing the receiver bandwidth, then, yes, the range will be reduced.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrowband Range -was- Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-28 Thread MCH
. Tom --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb6dgn wb6...@... wrote: Also, wouldn't Carson's rule mitigate that characteristic? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH mch@ wrote: I would agree with the quality issues, but does that really equate to unintelligibility on any

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrowband Range -was- Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-28 Thread MCH
behave! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: We were waiting for you to get busy with something else. :-P Joe M. wb6dgn wrote: Hey, guys! I'm trying to rewire my workbench area and I can't keep my mind on what I'm doing, thinking about this subject! Where were

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrowband Range -was- Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-28 Thread MCH
The same, perhaps not, but wouldn't intelligibility decrease as the quality degrades? Joe M. nj902 wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: I would agree with the quality issues, but does that really equate to unintelligibility on any significant scale

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wouxun Radio

2010-08-28 Thread mch
They are Part 90 accepted and they work fine in the ham bands if you're talking about the KG-UVD1P Joe M. On Sat 28/08/10 11:29 AM , terry dalpoas km...@yahoo.com sent: This may be a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. I saw some dual band portables on eBay, new for about $100, made by

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wouxun Radio

2010-08-28 Thread mch
What you say is somewhat true, but last weekend I was with someone who had a Yaesu, and he was picking up all kinds of overload while I was not. Joe M. On Sat 28/08/10 8:06 PM , Larry K wa0...@hughes.net sent: My family and I have been using them for some time. They are kind of wide on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can a Master 3 narroband

2010-08-27 Thread MCH
How did they handle this back in the 60s/70s when I remember seeing Adjusted for narrowband +/- 5 kHz stickers on the radios? Were those factory stickers? Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Tom, The narrowbanding kit produced by Communications Specialists and others is for the receiver section,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-27 Thread MCH
Can you explain what that means? Joe M. n5qs wrote: (Mototurbo can not operate at 6.25 KHz without infrastructure)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-27 Thread MCH
Interesting. A competing dealer is telling everyone they have to be using digital by 2013. Yes, of course it's a lie, but they no doubt make more on digital systems than they do analog. On the larger scope, I can't wait to hear the uproar when/if the FCC tells everyone who just purchased new

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-27 Thread MCH
This makes no sense. On the same band, with the same power, and with the same modulation type (analog) there is no reason there should be any loss by lowering the deviation and narrowing the receiver. If there was a change, it is not due to making the bandwidth more narrow. Maybe the new

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-27 Thread MCH
radio like an XTL5000, to a simple 4-freq PL Micor. Price tags are pretty close until you factor in inflation. *From:* MCH m...@nb.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, August 27, 2010 2:53:55 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help

2010-08-27 Thread MCH
That loss is likely due to the switch to digital which is required for 6.25 kHz bandwidth, and not a function of the bandwidth itself. Joe M. Andrew Seybold wrote: The FCC is re-thinking the move to 6.25 KHz based on the fact that narrow band systems (and I have done a few of them) lose

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Smart Batt Charger - not quiet off topic

2010-08-27 Thread MCH
Microchip has a battery maintenance kit. I saw one a couple weeks ago, but did not purchase it. That may be what you are looking for - or at least a good starting point. Sorry, but I don't have any part numbers. Joe M. wa1nvc wrote: There is a product made by West Mountain Radio that will do

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DON'T BUY IT **** Thread Closed***

2010-08-26 Thread MCH
No, Scott. You were correct about the original thread - it went on wy too long. It's just that the subject line was hijacked to a more on-topic thread in the mean time. Joe M. Scott Zimmerman wrote: Scott Zimmerman wrote: This Has gone on WAY to long. Ok, reading the rest of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
else in the mix, and it pretty much happens for the full length of the page, it's likely a spur on the paging transmitter, at least that's what I'd be looking at. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 20

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
. Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by grungy. What are you getting at? -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 6:59 AM, MCH wrote: Does it have a 'grungy' sound to it when you hear it on your input?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
going to call splatter that is like 30 Khz. -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 10:14 AM, MCH wrote: Many times (but not all), there will be a grungy sound with the spur. Think of a very loud 60 cycle hum. And 15 kHz is higher than normal. I think the typical shift is 5 kHz (+/- 2.5 kHz

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
On Aug 21, 2010, at 12:18 PM, MCH wrote: Before you said 15 kHz P-P (IOW bandwidth). Now you're saying 15 kHz deviation. 15 kHz deviation would be way too high. Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: I haven't noticed a hum. There's more of a scream on it. It's POCSAG. Is that analog? The dev

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
. I see about 15 Khz peak to peak. Is that normal? Also I see much bigger spikes. -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 6:59 AM, MCH wrote: Again, just like a spur. Does it have a 'grungy' sound to it when you hear it on your input? Might also be worth putting the Spectrum

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
Most likely suspects would be 151.140 and 170.940 MHz. Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 144.540 Mhz. I'm 100% sure there is another transmitter involved in the mix because sometimes the pager is transmitting and I have no interference.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
Could be a spur. Can you hear any other audio with the page? (ever) Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: It seems to pick up most of the page. Occasionally the beginning is missing or it will get just the very end. It always seems to drop at the same time as the page. -- Tim :wq On Aug 20,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
wrote: I'll watch those. How did you calculate them? -- Tim :wq On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:38 PM, MCH wrote: Most likely suspects would be 151.140 and 170.940 MHz. Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 144.540 Mhz. I'm 100% sure

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 10 meters.

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
It's been a while since we needed these, but I used to make them all the time for low band fire (33.70 and 46.38). As I recall, the stub is a short to the opposite frequency - making the antenna appear to not be there. Hence, all the power goes to the 'on frequency antenna'. Congrats on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 10 meters.

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
Hmmm... maybe it was an open that was presented rather than a short... Whichever make the off-frequency antenna appear to not be there. Joe M. Scott Zimmerman wrote: skipp025 wrote: The Catholic Church says only the rhythm method is allowed. I SOMEHOW don't think that 'method' will help us

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Polyphaser Question

2010-08-17 Thread MCH
Upload the pics to the group PHOTOS section. Always nice to have stuff like that available for reference. Joe M. David Jordan wrote: I recently opened up a Polyphaser unit we used on one of our remote sites… it covered both 2m and 70cm. We were experiencing poor receive at the site.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding

2010-08-02 Thread MCH
I was wondering about that myself. A couple of comments on the other aspects: 1. I see this as falling flat on its face. May as well mandate D-STAR. 2. How are the commercial people fitting SNFM in 7.5 kHz channels as they have been doing on VHF? Joe M. Chuck Kelsey wrote: How wide is it?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radio

2010-07-30 Thread MCH
I would disagree with that. It is legal to 'open up' our radios. What is illegal is actually transmitting on other services (genuine emergencies exempted for the sake of argument). Joe M. Brian Raker wrote: Please note that we are not allowed (i.e. it's illegal) to modify our Part 97

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-30 Thread MCH
Not even close. Joe M. Tim - WD6AWP wrote: Are the CDM's similar to the Radius M1225?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-30 Thread MCH
connector. That's about all that is the same. So, if you want to know how they are different, well, anything other than the above. Joe M. Tim - WD6AWP wrote: I guess you don't care to elaborate. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: Not even close. Joe M. Tim - WD6AWP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Transmitter Combiner

2010-07-15 Thread MCH
About the only way is via a duplexer. (Cheap? Well... used??? ;- ) Joe M. na4it wrote: Is there a cheap way to combine two txcvrs into one antenna... 144.39 APRS and 145.550 packet?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops

2010-07-13 Thread MCH
Explain to him that it's not legal, and tell him you would not be comfortable doing something that is not legal, as you could jeopardize your FCC license(s) which you have worked very hard to earn. You can even show him the Part 95 rules where it has the limitations on what equipment you can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF REPEATER USING DELTA or RANGR

2010-07-08 Thread MCH
The RANGR was only spec'ed at 5% duty cycle and would not make a very good repeater transmitter. I don't recall the specs on the Delta offhand. Joe M. tomnevue wrote: Has anyone made a VHF repeater using 2 Delta or Rangr radios? Were the results OK? Any unexpected problems? Tom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line

2010-07-08 Thread MCH
You could get a Magic Jack and keep the same phone number and everything. The only thing that would change is the bill. Of course, this requires an internet connection. But, the cost of that plus the MJ could be lower than what you are paying now. Joe M. Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: At our

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1/2 or 7/8 coax needed

2010-06-28 Thread MCH
Does anyone know offhand: a) when rebanding will be complete in the USA. b) when it will be complete in PA. Thanks, Joe M.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advice on 40 year old radio tower

2010-06-02 Thread MCH
If this happens to be near Saltsburg, look up the tower and I think you will find the tower is bent from the trees pulling on the guy wires. At least, it was that way about 10-15 years ago, and I doubt it has gotten any better. I also doubt you will find anyone willing (read: dumb enough) to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advice on 40 year old radio tower

2010-06-02 Thread MCH
, the Ballsinger radio tower. I will always er on the side of safety, if it is jumk I want no part of it. just trying to determan if in worth the trouble.. Denny --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: If this happens to be near Saltsburg, look up the tower and I think

Re: [Repeater-Builder] is a repeater needed

2010-05-29 Thread MCH
Simple answer: Do you have repeaters that cover the same area yours would cover? Joe M. Lane wrote: Hi all, I've been interested in building a repeater for a while now, but before I do, I guess the first step is in knowing whether or not a repeater is needed for my area. I live in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off-Topic: Shop liability insurance

2010-05-19 Thread MCH
*Product* liability would be the responsibility of the manufacturer. Do you REALLY want to assume responsibility should something happen due to a product you sold? (like someone took the antenna off, and got an RF burn from transmitting while sticking their finger in the antenna plug) I really

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

2010-05-18 Thread MCH
The ones going to the third 'T' should be the same length to avoid out-of-phase issues. Joe M. Larry Horlick wrote: I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles (it does not indicate an antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness picture

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

2010-05-18 Thread MCH
I can't speak specifically of Sinclair, most all of the models I've used will do either omni or cardioid by moving the elements. The spacing from the mast stays the same. Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: On 5/18/2010 12:29 PM, Larry Horlick wrote: I suspect that the harness does not affect the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

2010-05-17 Thread MCH
Either that, or it was disinformation (although it's easy enough to verify - I just didn't want to pick up the TT4 and look at it since it was connected and operating). One of his products even has PIC in the name. Joe M. n...@no6b.com wrote: At 5/16/2010 02:57 AM, you wrote: Actually,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

2010-05-16 Thread MCH
Actually, Byonics is using the AT Mega (sp?). I specifically asked. At least, that's what the TT4 is using. Joe M. n...@no6b.com wrote: At 5/15/2010 18:20, you wrote: Sorry for the slightly OT post, but has anyone seen any PIC stuff at the Hamvention? Looking for PICs, PIC manuals, PIC-based

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

2010-05-16 Thread MCH
Oh, and I was just looking for a Hamvention source for chips or other related items. I've been playing with them, and wanted to find some good deals. I have a couple development boards, and I've been writing code in ASM. Joe M. n...@no6b.com wrote: At 5/15/2010 18:20, you wrote: Sorry for

[Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

2010-05-15 Thread MCH
Sorry for the slightly OT post, but has anyone seen any PIC stuff at the Hamvention? Looking for PICs, PIC manuals, PIC-based kits, Etc. Thanks, Joe M.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers

2010-05-01 Thread MCH
I would submit that the FCC has claimed enforcement over radio transmissions in the USA, and that's in the radio is not relevant since it's out of his jurisdiction unless he wants to represent himself as a federal officer. Of course, this is not the proper attitude to present, but it is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] how far

2010-04-24 Thread MCH
Somewhere between 2000' and 200 miles depending on the terrain between the HT and the 5000. Joe M. George wrote: what is the range of a 800mhz handheld 4watts with msf5000 repeater 450watts on the antena

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PA TLB1414C-2

2010-04-21 Thread MCH
TLB would be Low Band. Joe M. La Rue Communications wrote: Anyone know what Frequency this handles? I think its a UHF but not sure what split. Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50

2010-04-09 Thread MCH
Yep - SP50 was on the side. P50+ was a contact at about the 1 o'clock position on the board behind the battery. P50 was also available in Low Band which was the tall case and 6W. Joe M. kevin valentino wrote: Got a friend in a convalescent home, studying for his ticket now. That would be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50

2010-04-09 Thread MCH
But, how many people know that? I think his point was that it doesn't seem to have been played with by someone who didn't know at least somewhat what they were doing. I've seen some of those come in. Joe M. Bill Smith wrote: Pry marks? Pop out the two clips in the battery compartment and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking to buy Low band maratrac low and high split

2010-04-08 Thread MCH
Sorta related... Does anyone have any High Band (VHF) Maratracs with blown PAs? I'm looking for some cheap ones for an experimental project. The only requirement is that the RF and logic decks work. The amp and power interface board need not work. Actually, I don't even need the frame. Joe M.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread MCH
There are P25 repeaters on the air. Granted, not as many as D-STAR (strictly talking about ham systems), but I know of nobody giving away P25 repeaters. Also, I bet there are more P25 receivers owned by hams than D-STAR since there are several scanners that decode P25, and only a few that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-04 Thread MCH
Threaded... John wrote: Hmmm... I'm sitting here with my NQMHS Node Adapter (GMSK Modem) and watching the binary stream, in both Hex and Char, off of my IC-91AD, while transmitting for a few seconds. It seems the callsign information is repeated on a pretty continuous basis looking at

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac

2010-04-03 Thread MCH
Likely a typo since he did say mid split. Joe M. Richard W. Solomon wrote: 30 - 42 ??? I thought there was a 30 - 36 AND a 36 - 42 split. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: kd8biw kd8...@hotmail.com Sent: Apr 2, 2010 8:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread mch
Besides, doesn't that assume they will be adding more user units to it? In this case, it's likely a one-shot deal, so they won't care about future sources. Joe M. On Sat 03/04/10 7:00 PM , n...@no6b.com sent: At 4/3/2010 15:35, you wrote: I would strongly remind them that they are

Re: [Repeater-Builder]DVSI was: Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread MCH
You mean like the Motorola RF devices and chips used in many two-way radio products other than Motorola's? (including directly competing products) Joe M. wd8chl wrote: One good thing, in my book anyway, at least that's all DVSI does is vocoders. They don't make radios. They don't make

Re: [Repeater-Builder]DVSI was: Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread MCH
/2010 12:19 PM, MCH wrote: You mean like the Motorola RF devices and chips used in many two-way radio products other than Motorola's? (including directly competing products) Joe M. wd8chl wrote: One good thing, in my book anyway, at least that's all DVSI does is vocoders. They don't make radios

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread MCH
If you don't count the Icom scanning receivers. They CAN decode D-STAR. Joe M. Kris Kirby wrote: There's also a substantial base of users who like D-STAR because there isn't a scanner that can decode it.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 449 MHz Wind Profiler Radar?

2010-03-31 Thread MCH
No - I recall when this was mentioned being at 449 MHz about 10 years ago. Joe M. Chuck Kelsey wrote: I don't think that they've been at 449 MHz. That's the new part. They were much lower in the band. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - *From:* Nate Duehr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NOS GE Phoenix For Sale

2010-03-27 Thread MCH
I think the 200 was 16 channels with an option for 32 channels. While I'm typing, does anyone have a source for a replacement Whelen microphone element? I can't justify $150 for one from Whelen. Even a source for a good used Whelen mic would be welcome. And sorry about the off-topic post

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DPL CODES

2010-03-24 Thread MCH
The ones 'in the middle' tend to be used less, so that could be a factor. People tend to use them from the low or high ends. There are also some that are less likely to false, but I don't recall which ones. It has to do with the likelihood of an error in the bits matching other codes in a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola experts/Maxtrac COR

2010-03-22 Thread MCH
If you're looking at what I think you are, it only means the output/pin config is custom and the defaults will stick on power cycle (which is easy enough to test and confirm). Joe M. kq7dx wrote: Dear Group, I have a 800mhz maxtrac converted to 900mhz with the COR going out to pin 8. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-12 Thread MCH
From what some are saying, all 'colors' are active on all repeaters. It's like having a repeater that passes CTCSS. Anyone can use your repeater and you cannot shut the code (or color) off. Again, this is what I'm hearing from some people. Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: The color codes are like

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-12 Thread MCH
, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: So if there are two TRBO repeaters in the same area, there is no way to keep them both from being active and interfering with each other? That doesn't sound right. Or, if I have a repeater, anyone can just buy TRBO radios and use it? Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: On 3/11

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-12 Thread MCH
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems Just the frequency, and not which TGs it passes? Do all TRBO repeaters pass all TRBO format

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-12 Thread MCH
Great info. I assume that users are shut off via a 'kill code' to the radio since the repeater cannot be used to allow selective access. Also, is there a URL for the system planner? Joe M. nj902 wrote: Answers to most of the Mototrbo questions can be found in the Mototrbo System Planner.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-11 Thread MCH
. It's surprising this info isn't on any web pages anywhere... Nate On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:33 PM, MCH wrote: Just to clarify, I'm talking about what would be equal to talkgroups. Although it does make me feel better others cannot find the answer either. :-) Joe M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-11 Thread MCH
And there is not any special option to order to get multiple TGs? The base model will support all TGs that are possible? Joe M. wd8chl wrote: On 3/11/2010 11:10 AM, MCH wrote: And how many of these TGs can be used in a repeater at the same time? Thanks, Joe M. Outside of the ones

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-11 Thread MCH
be in the portable/mobile rigs, not the repeater. Nate WY0X On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:10 AM, MCH wrote: And how many of these TGs can be used in a repeater at the same time? Thanks, Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-11 Thread MCH
So if there are two TRBO repeaters in the same area, there is no way to keep them both from being active and interfering with each other? That doesn't sound right. Or, if I have a repeater, anyone can just buy TRBO radios and use it? Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: On 3/11/2010 1:54 PM, MCH

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-11 Thread MCH
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:53 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: So if there are two TRBO repeaters in the same area, there is no way to keep them both from being active and interfering with each other? That doesn't sound right. Or, if I have a repeater, anyone can just buy TRBO radios and use

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-10 Thread MCH
Along those lines? How many groups of users will the standard MotoTRBO repeater support in digital mode? I know it will do 2 simultaneously, but how many overall? Also, I know it will support a single NBFM user - can a CTCSS panel be attached to it? Thanks, Joe M. wb6wui wrote: Dan,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-10 Thread MCH
Just to clarify, I'm talking about what would be equal to talkgroups. Although it does make me feel better others cannot find the answer either. :-) Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: On 3/10/2010 1:47 PM, MCH wrote: Along those lines? How many groups of users will the standard MotoTRBO

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 200 watts on a repeater transmitter - was something else...

2010-03-08 Thread MCH
That's just it. Everyone likes to throw names out such as 'alligator' or 'elephant', but few people realize it's all relative to the station *using* the repeater, too. What repeater may be an alligator for one person is an elephant to another depending on *their* equipment. The repeater itself

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread MCH
What are you missing? The fact that it should be in bands where TV is authorized, and not in a band where it will be subject to random instances of interference from a service that has transmitters at any place at any time. I wonder how well a waiver would be received that would permit hams to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread MCH
The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the government. Where would *you* put TV transmitters if not in the TV bands? Joe M. David Jordan wrote: I don't think there is any premise or as you say, ...fact that it should be in the bands where TV is authorized... is relevant.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread MCH
- Live from Dayton... the Hamvention Robot. Joe M. DCFluX wrote: 2.4 GHz, there are numorous TV transmitters already designed that operate here, 2 of the 4 channels common channels fall on the ham band and are often converted for ATV use. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:42 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread MCH
Or even unused traditional UHF TV channels which are only 30 MHz higher. The bad part of this is if something goes to court, the jury will likely side with those protecting lives over ham chat no matter what the laws say and the hams will lose. Joe M. Richard wrote: Since they'd be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread MCH
It's wideband so it's not going to key up your repeater and CTCSS does not solve interference - it just masks it. Joe M. WA3GIN wrote: What? Just go and turn on your PL... come on! Lets use the technology that we claim we know so well... - Original Message -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread MCH
Except for the fact these users will be SECONDARY to US. Still, try telling your local PD they have to shut their robot down because they are causing interference... Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: Amateur Radio is NOT PRIMARY on 70cm in the U.S.. Never have been. Never will be. We are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-03-02 Thread MCH
would be of no value as you need the programmed microprocessor chip to make it work. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net mailto:mch%40nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-03-01 Thread MCH
Interesting. I wonder if there is some tech info on this that is available. Any idea how much the cost was and what mods were required? Or, perhaps some tech data on the synthesizer as far as what pins control the frequency, as well as any binary-to-frequency info. Joe M. Chuck Kelsey wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-03-01 Thread MCH
And put an external CTCSS/CDCSS encoder on it? There are more tone/code combinations to fill 128 channels on a single frequency. Joe M. rahwayflynn wrote: K3JLS - The wayback machine has a bit of information: http://web.archive.org/web/20050907131941/http://www.k3jls.com/ Although with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-03-01 Thread MCH
several posts to this list and became discouraged at the lack of interest. The documentation would be of no value as you need the programmed microprocessor chip to make it work. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-03-01 Thread MCH
, but am pretty sure you'd need the source code in order to make changes. Joe programmed the chips and wouldn't release the code - he didn't want someone to steal his idea. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-03-01 Thread MCH
of interest. The documentation would be of no value as you need the programmed microprocessor chip to make it work. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-03-01 Thread MCH
be of no value as you need the programmed microprocessor chip to make it work. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 900 meg Spectra radio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio

2010-02-28 Thread MCH
True, but where is the hack for the front panel programmable Spectra? It's nice to not be limited to preprogrammed channels. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: Yeah, same as 220. There's not really a need for an amateur rig anyway. There are so many commercial rigs that go there easily, and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Unlawful in IL to Rebroadcast Public Safety Communications

2010-02-21 Thread MCH
Sorry - replied to the wrong message. Joe M. MCH wrote: I should have realized that since I think there are base frequencies below the UHF coverage that work. Regardless, it's a problem with the calculation and won't work. Thanks for the correction. Joe M. Greg Beat wrote

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Kenwood TM-3530A T Tones

2010-02-14 Thread MCH
Did you try using the keys on the front of the radio as the TTP? I think they still did that on that model and they don't have to be in a memory. Joe M. ka9qjg1 wrote: I have an Old Kenwood TM-3530A 220 Radio I need to be able to send TT To work on My Repeater Controller The radio works

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-02-14 Thread MCH
And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format. Joe M. Mark wrote: I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-02-14 Thread MCH
and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. my 2 cents MCH wrote: And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format. Joe M. Mark wrote: I think

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