Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Craig Gaevert]

It is clearly stated in the Black Watch readme that Retrospect will not run if
Black Watch is active.  In order to have Retro run it must be opened/launched
and then it will complete backup operations even though Black Watch is active.
Black Watch, IMO, is good stuff.

Mark Hewitt wrote:

> I had this problem a little while ago, and I was running a screen saver
> called BlackWatch. Nice screen saver, but while it was running, Retrospect
> wouldn't autorun. As a result, I would arrive at the office in the morning,
> move the mouse to deactivate the screen saver (to see if the backup worked),
> and the script would start shortly after. Removing BlackWatch worked.
>
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> Programmer / MAX Multimedia / London

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Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Mark Hewitt]

Owen Watson wrote on 26/4/2000 8:45 pm:

> Occasionally (often when I'm away) Retrospect (latest version) won't
> start up automatically on my Mac. No lack of memory. When I do launch
> Retro on these occasions it then happily does its scripts, but why is
> the autolaunch so erratic?
> 
> Yes, I do have it turned on. . .

I had this problem a little while ago, and I was running a screen saver
called BlackWatch. Nice screen saver, but while it was running, Retrospect
wouldn't autorun. As a result, I would arrive at the office in the morning,
move the mouse to deactivate the screen saver (to see if the backup worked),
and the script would start shortly after. Removing BlackWatch worked.

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Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Stefan Jeglinski]

>Which Version of ASIP are you running?

6.1 with the 6.1.1 Web and File Extension.


>There were a couple of versions that under the right circumstances 
>didn't honor the ASIP "memory reserved for other applications" 
>setting.

Correct, 6.1. The 6.1.1 Web and File Extension fixed this problem.


>I usually run set the reserve to give Retrospect a comfortable room 
>to run in (I believe Retrospect uses temporary memory as well).

Our reserve is set to 155MB. Should be enough for Retrospect :-)


Stefan Jeglinski


>  >dunno but I'd like the answer also. With a machine left for days
>  >sitting and just ASIP file serving (no reboots, no changes) and Retro
>  >at night when ASIP is quiet, about 10% of the time Retro just fails
>  >to auto-launch. Manually launch it and the backups begin and it goes
>  >on merrily auto-launching for maybe several days before it happens
>  >again.



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Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Philip Chonacky]

Which Version of ASIP are you running?  
There were a couple of versions that under the right circumstances didn't honor the 
ASIP "memory reserved for other applications" setting.

I usually run set the reserve to give Retrospect a comfortable room to run in (I 
believe Retrospect uses temporary memory as well).

Hope this helps.

-Philip


>>Occasionally (often when I'm away) Retrospect (latest version) won't 
>>start up automatically on my Mac. No lack of memory. When I do 
>>launch Retro on these occasions it then happily does its scripts, 
>>but why is the autolaunch so erratic?
>>
>>Yes, I do have it turned on. . .
>
>
>dunno but I'd like the answer also. With a machine left for days 
>sitting and just ASIP file serving (no reboots, no changes) and Retro 
>at night when ASIP is quiet, about 10% of the time Retro just fails 
>to auto-launch. Manually launch it and the backups begin and it goes 
>on merrily auto-launching for maybe several days before it happens 
>again.
>
>
>Stefan Jeglinski
>
>
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Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Paul Fyfe]

>Having read some the replys, I'll throw my 2 cents in too.  I have
>noticed that if I've rebooted my backup machine, a good 50% of the time
>Retrospect will not launch by itself when scheduled.  When I first
>
>Owen Watson wrote:
>
> > Occasionally (often when I'm away) Retrospect (latest version) won't
> > start up automatically on my Mac. No lack of memory. When I do launch
> > Retro on these occasions it then happily does its scripts, but why is
> > the autolaunch so erratic?

Wow! I have seen this a few times but my rule of thumb *is* to reboot 
before going away! If I desperately want the backup to work, I will 
open Retrospect as well.

My guess has been that some programs are good at ruining a portion of 
the memory used by autolaunches. And Matthew Tevenan's suggestion 
about a damaged extension sounds plausible; it is helpful because it 
gives offers a very specific cure (that may not work though).

With a lot of macs at work I just learn live with these things. I see 
similar sorts of problem (I believe) with the failure of Remote 
Access Disconnect to disconnect (no problem if you open the main 
program), loss of network after using a couple of different Adobe 
program versions, and several other experiences that escape me for 
the moment. Exact troubleshooting is just not on with these type of 
problems that occur only after using many or certain combinations of 
programs. I know how it might be fixed. But who has time to do often 
the gruesome process of reinstalling the Mac system and a complex set 
of applications, then manually reset all the preferences (I routinely 
trash several preference files to solve some sorts of problems)? [I 
know what you are thinking but 'No', the Retro backup of the fresh 
machine won't have the newer application, and 5 different upgrades on 
it!] Sorry Owen, it's not much help.

Paul Fyfe (IT manager, Jesuit Publications, Melbourne Australia)



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Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Craig Gaevert]

Having read some the replys, I'll throw my 2 cents in too.  I have
noticed that if I've rebooted my backup machine, a good 50% of the time
Retrospect will not launch by itself when scheduled.  When I first
launch Retrospect after it has missed a backup, it will then start to do
the backup, and then continue to do backups normally.  Thus I find that
I often have to remember to boot Retrospect after booting the machine
(probably ought to put an alias in the startup folder).

Owen Watson wrote:

> Occasionally (often when I'm away) Retrospect (latest version) won't
> start up automatically on my Mac. No lack of memory. When I do launch
> Retro on these occasions it then happily does its scripts, but why is
> the autolaunch so erratic?
>
> Yes, I do have it turned on. . .
> .
> Owen Watson
> at home in Wellington, New Zealand

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Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Stefan Jeglinski]

>Occasionally (often when I'm away) Retrospect (latest version) won't 
>start up automatically on my Mac. No lack of memory. When I do 
>launch Retro on these occasions it then happily does its scripts, 
>but why is the autolaunch so erratic?
>
>Yes, I do have it turned on. . .


dunno but I'd like the answer also. With a machine left for days 
sitting and just ASIP file serving (no reboots, no changes) and Retro 
at night when ASIP is quiet, about 10% of the time Retro just fails 
to auto-launch. Manually launch it and the backups begin and it goes 
on merrily auto-launching for maybe several days before it happens 
again.


Stefan Jeglinski



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Re: Why won't Retrospect autorun?

[Matthew Tevenan]

Owen,

If Retrospect is no longer autolaunching, and you've verified that
"Autolaunch Retrospect" is checked in Special>Preferences, read the
following:

Does Retrospect try to run a script right after you start it, but not at the
specified time? If not, verify that your script is scheduled correctly. Go
to Automate>Preview from the Retrospect Directory. Are there scripts
scheduled to run? If there are, is the top one scheduled to run soon (as
opposed to months or years in the future)? If it is scheduled to run some
time in the future, you may have deferred execution of the script. Change
this by editing your script.

If there are no scripts scheduled to run, you need to reschedule your
scripts. Go to Automate>Scripts from the Retrospect Directory to do this.

If Retrospect tries to run a script right after you launch the program, the
extension which autolaunches Retrospect, Retro.Startup, may be damaged.
Replace it by doing the following: quit Retrospect, trash Retro.Startup
(inside the Extensions folder in the System Folder), restart the computer,
launch and quit Retrospect, then restart the Mac again. This will produce a
fresh copy of Retro.Startup.

Let us know (at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you still have problems.

Matthew
Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
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P.S. I've found that Retrospect can also get confused if you're launching
multiple copies of multiple versions every day, but happily that's only a
problem for a very small group of people: namely Dantz tech support. :)

> From: Owen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:45:53 +1200
> To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Why won't Retrospect autorun?
> 
> Occasionally (often when I'm away) Retrospect (latest version) won't
> start up automatically on my Mac. No lack of memory. When I do launch
> Retro on these occasions it then happily does its scripts, but why is
> the autolaunch so erratic?
> 
> Yes, I do have it turned on. . .
> .
> Owen Watson
> at home in Wellington, New Zealand
> 
> 
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