Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-02-01 Thread Irena Solomon

There's a PDF version in the folder that you downloaded. If you don't have
the folder any more, it's available on our website:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=latest_docs

HTH!

Irena Solomon
 
> If I downloaded my copy of Retrospect, where would I find this guide?
> 
> Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
> 
> Full instructions for doing an Emergency Restore start on page 114 of the
> Retrospect for Windows User's Guide. You may also select "Prepare for
> Emergency Restore" from the Window menu in Retrospect; this will list what
> you will need to restore and allow you to print full Emergency Restore
> instructions.
> 
> Searching for "Windows Restore" in our knowledgebase now also returns these
> instructions, as well as several platform-specific notes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Irena Solomon
> Dantz Technical Support
> 925.253.3050
> 
> Try our Searchable Knowledgebase at:
> http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/
> 
> 
>> These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too.
>> Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the
> software
>> and the hardware.  Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety
> of
>> situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the
> software
>> for the user.
>> 
>> Thanks for your response, Malcolm.  I will be updating our recovery
>> procedures to reflect your suggestions.
>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Wow.  I never thought of that.  Temporary directories sound like they
> will
>>>> save my butt.  Brilliant response!
>>>> 
>>>> Would I use temp directories with win95/98?
>>> 
>>> Absolutely!
>>> 
>>> When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running
>>> Win9x I just
>>> format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the
>>> Retrospect Client ...
>>> all in a temp directory.  Reboot, add the client to the
>>> server and restore
>>> over the network.
>>> 
>>> In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine
>>> the way I want
>>> it then do a full backup.  I can then use this backup to configure new
>>> machines or fix broken ones.
>>> 
>>> Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but
>>> I find using
>>> Retrospect over the network more convenient.  In an office
>>> which has several
>>> hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with
>>> Retrospect to just do a
>>> full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied"
>>> configuration can be re-applied when necessary.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,  Malcolm



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RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-31 Thread Scott Dunn

If I downloaded my copy of Retrospect, where would I find this guide?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4


Full instructions for doing an Emergency Restore start on page 114 of the
Retrospect for Windows User's Guide. You may also select "Prepare for
Emergency Restore" from the Window menu in Retrospect; this will list what
you will need to restore and allow you to print full Emergency Restore
instructions.

Searching for "Windows Restore" in our knowledgebase now also returns these
instructions, as well as several platform-specific notes.

Regards,

Irena Solomon
Dantz Technical Support
925.253.3050

Try our Searchable Knowledgebase at:
http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/


> These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too.
> Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the
software
> and the hardware.  Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety
of
> situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the
software
> for the user.
>
> Thanks for your response, Malcolm.  I will be updating our recovery
> procedures to reflect your suggestions.
>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Wow.  I never thought of that.  Temporary directories sound like they
will
>>> save my butt.  Brilliant response!
>>>
>>> Would I use temp directories with win95/98?
>>
>> Absolutely!
>>
>> When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running
>> Win9x I just
>> format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the
>> Retrospect Client ...
>> all in a temp directory.  Reboot, add the client to the
>> server and restore
>> over the network.
>>
>> In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine
>> the way I want
>> it then do a full backup.  I can then use this backup to configure new
>> machines or fix broken ones.
>>
>> Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but
>> I find using
>> Retrospect over the network more convenient.  In an office
>> which has several
>> hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with
>> Retrospect to just do a
>> full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied"
>> configuration can be re-applied when necessary.
>>
>> Cheers,  Malcolm
>>



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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-31 Thread Irena Solomon

Full instructions for doing an Emergency Restore start on page 114 of the
Retrospect for Windows User's Guide. You may also select "Prepare for
Emergency Restore" from the Window menu in Retrospect; this will list what
you will need to restore and allow you to print full Emergency Restore
instructions.

Searching for "Windows Restore" in our knowledgebase now also returns these
instructions, as well as several platform-specific notes.

Regards,

Irena Solomon
Dantz Technical Support
925.253.3050

Try our Searchable Knowledgebase at:
http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/


> These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too.
> Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the software
> and the hardware.  Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety of
> situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the software
> for the user.
> 
> Thanks for your response, Malcolm.  I will be updating our recovery
> procedures to reflect your suggestions.
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow.  I never thought of that.  Temporary directories sound like they will
>>> save my butt.  Brilliant response!
>>> 
>>> Would I use temp directories with win95/98?
>> 
>> Absolutely!
>> 
>> When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running
>> Win9x I just
>> format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the
>> Retrospect Client ...
>> all in a temp directory.  Reboot, add the client to the
>> server and restore
>> over the network.
>> 
>> In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine
>> the way I want
>> it then do a full backup.  I can then use this backup to configure new
>> machines or fix broken ones.
>> 
>> Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but
>> I find using
>> Retrospect over the network more convenient.  In an office
>> which has several
>> hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with
>> Retrospect to just do a
>> full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied"
>> configuration can be re-applied when necessary.
>> 
>> Cheers,  Malcolm
>> 



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RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-31 Thread Scott Dunn

These are the kind of tips I would hope to see on the Dantz website, too.
Providing a backup solution should be more than just providing the software
and the hardware.  Demonstrating effective recovery options for a variety of
situations and platforms on the website will only add value to the software
for the user.

Thanks for your response, Malcolm.  I will be updating our recovery
procedures to reflect your suggestions.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Malcolm McLeary
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:12 PM
> To: retro-talk
> Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Wow.  I never thought of that.  Temporary directories sound
> like they will
> > save my butt.  Brilliant response!
> >
> > Would I use temp directories with win95/98?
>
> Absolutely!
>
> When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running
> Win9x I just
> format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the
> Retrospect Client ...
> all in a temp directory.  Reboot, add the client to the
> server and restore
> over the network.
>
> In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine
> the way I want
> it then do a full backup.  I can then use this backup to configure new
> machines or fix broken ones.
>
> Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but
> I find using
> Retrospect over the network more convenient.  In an office
> which has several
> hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with
> Retrospect to just do a
> full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied"
> configuration can be re-applied when necessary.
>
> Cheers,  Malcolm
>
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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-29 Thread Malcolm McLeary

Hi Scott,

on 30/1/01 2:18 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Wow.  I never thought of that.  Temporary directories sound like they will
> save my butt.  Brilliant response!
> 
> Would I use temp directories with win95/98?

Absolutely!

When faced with this situation with normal user PCs running Win9x I just
format the disk, do a minimum OS install and then the Retrospect Client ...
all in a temp directory.  Reboot, add the client to the server and restore
over the network.

In preparation for this situation I setup one Win9x machine the way I want
it then do a full backup.  I can then use this backup to configure new
machines or fix broken ones.

Other people ghost one disk onto another or even a CD-R, but I find using
Retrospect over the network more convenient.  In an office which has several
hardware configurations it tends to be simpler with Retrospect to just do a
full backup BEFORE letting users use the machine so the "as supplied"
configuration can be re-applied when necessary.

Cheers,  Malcolm

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RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-29 Thread Scott Dunn

Wow.  I never thought of that.  Temporary directories sound like they will
save my butt.  Brilliant response!

Would I use temp directories with win95/98?

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Malcolm McLeary
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:40 PM
> To: retro-talk
> Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> on 27/1/01 10:35 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the
> following question:  Your
> > hard drive fails.  You want to pop in a new drive and
> restore the system to
> > the original condition.  What do you do?
>
> 1.  On the new disk Install Windows NT into a temporary
> directory (e.g.
> wintemp).
>
> 2.  Since this thread was about the Backup Server, install
> Retrospect into a
> temporary directory.
>
> 3.  Rebuild the catalog of the most recent backup of the
> Backup Server.
>
> 4.  Restore from the Backup Server backup (i.e. from local
> backup device).
>
> 5.  Reboot.
>
> 6.  Delete the temporary directories.
>
> The Backup Server should now be as it was at the time of the
> last "self"
> backup.
>
> On a Mac this so much easier as you can always boot from the
> Retrospect CD
> (or an external hard disk, or zip or jaz, etc, etc) and omit
> steps 1 and 2
> above ... this is not so easy with Windows platforms as there
> are so many
> system configuration variables which make it basically
> impossible for Dantz
> to ship a bootable restore CD for Windows.  However I heard
> somewhere that
> Dantz are working on a solution which will allow a bootable
> restore CD to be
> created by Retrospect for the specific system.
>
> Cheers,  Malcolm
>
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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-27 Thread Mary Ann Zhang

A quick thanks to those who replied with your information
and suggestions.

I appreciate it.

The rebuild of the server went smoothly and Retro was a breeze
as I thought it would be. The only problem was a hard drive
h/w issue which I resolved by replacing it with a spare.

Thanks again

maz





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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-26 Thread Malcolm McLeary

Hi Scott,

on 27/1/01 10:35 AM, Scott Dunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the following question:  Your
> hard drive fails.  You want to pop in a new drive and restore the system to
> the original condition.  What do you do?

1.  On the new disk Install Windows NT into a temporary directory (e.g.
wintemp).

2.  Since this thread was about the Backup Server, install Retrospect into a
temporary directory.

3.  Rebuild the catalog of the most recent backup of the Backup Server.

4.  Restore from the Backup Server backup (i.e. from local backup device).

5.  Reboot.

6.  Delete the temporary directories.

The Backup Server should now be as it was at the time of the last "self"
backup.

On a Mac this so much easier as you can always boot from the Retrospect CD
(or an external hard disk, or zip or jaz, etc, etc) and omit steps 1 and 2
above ... this is not so easy with Windows platforms as there are so many
system configuration variables which make it basically impossible for Dantz
to ship a bootable restore CD for Windows.  However I heard somewhere that
Dantz are working on a solution which will allow a bootable restore CD to be
created by Retrospect for the specific system.

Cheers,  Malcolm

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RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-26 Thread matt barkdull

What operating system?

On the Mac, you can boot from the Retrospect CD, I believe.

I usually take that opportunity to do a clean install though.  On the 
Mac, I'll do a clean install of the current OS and then restore all 
the files into a sub-folder and then move them out as needed.

All of the Windows machines that I manage have a ZIP drive and can 
boot from it, so I've created a Boot ZIP disk for each machine that 
also has the Retrospect Client software installed.

>Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the following question:  Your
>hard drive fails.  You want to pop in a new drive and restore the system to
>the original condition.  What do you do?



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RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-26 Thread Scott Dunn

Please forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask the following question:  Your
hard drive fails.  You want to pop in a new drive and restore the system to
the original condition.  What do you do?



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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Irena Solomon
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 9:17 AM
> To: retro-talk
> Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
>
>
> If you already have an active system on that machine, you can't do a
> *complete* restore, as Retrospect won't write over the active
> system file.
> You could restore your entire Program Files folder though, which would
> restore the Retrospect program and preferences. You'd then
> not only have to
> rebuild catalogs but recreate all your scripts and log in any
> clients as
> well.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Irena Solomon
> Dantz Tech Support
>
> > I know that this sounds like the long way, but isn't it
> possible to start
> > from ground zero?  I mean that if I start with a clean
> install of NT 4.0,
> > then install Retrospect, then have Retrospect rebuild a
> catalog of the tape,
> > from there I could do a complete restore of the Server, right?
>
>
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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-25 Thread David Ross

I know on macs that rebuilding a catalog from scratch is a long process
for one tape. Much less more than one.

> I know that this sounds like the long way, but isn't it possible to start
> from ground zero?  I mean that if I start with a clean install of NT 4.0,
> then install Retrospect, then have Retrospect rebuild a catalog of the tape,
> from there I could do a complete restore of the Server, right?


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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-25 Thread Irena Solomon

If you already have an active system on that machine, you can't do a
*complete* restore, as Retrospect won't write over the active system file.
You could restore your entire Program Files folder though, which would
restore the Retrospect program and preferences. You'd then not only have to
rebuild catalogs but recreate all your scripts and log in any clients as
well.

Best Regards,

Irena Solomon
Dantz Tech Support

> I know that this sounds like the long way, but isn't it possible to start
> from ground zero?  I mean that if I start with a clean install of NT 4.0,
> then install Retrospect, then have Retrospect rebuild a catalog of the tape,
> from there I could do a complete restore of the Server, right?



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RE: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-25 Thread Scott Dunn

I know that this sounds like the long way, but isn't it possible to start
from ground zero?  I mean that if I start with a clean install of NT 4.0,
then install Retrospect, then have Retrospect rebuild a catalog of the tape,
from there I could do a complete restore of the Server, right?



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> Of Irena Solomon
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:03 AM
> To: retro-talk
> Subject: Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4
>
>
> FYI, the critical files are the preferences and your catalog
> files. The
> config_5.dat and config_5.bak (c:/Program
> Files/Dantz/Retrospect) contain
> all your license information, scripts, client logins, etc.
>
> A full backup is always a good idea though!
>
> Regards,
>
> Irena Solomon
> Dantz Technical Support
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> > Hi Mary Ann,
> >
> > on 25/1/01 12:47 PM, Mary Ann Zhang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> I need to reinstall NT4 server on a backup server and then
> reinstall
> >> Retrospect Server v5.
> >>
> >> I have some concerns about the existing retro config and
> scripts being
> >> retained and
> >> the 100 or so clients still being able to access the new install.
> >> If I backup the existing Dantz directory and the catelog directory
> >> and then restore these after retro has been reinstalled will
> >> all be (ie: retro scripts and backups) as it now?.
> >> Has anyone on this list have experience with this?
> >> If so do you have any tips and traps you know of.
> >>
> >> Given my lack of experience with this process any help
> would be greatly
> >> appreciated.
> >
> > I have had to do this a couple of times (with WinNT
> Workstation not Server)
> > and all I did was backup the Dantz directory and catalog
> directory before
> > reaching for the OS Restore CD and rebuilding the machine.
> >
> > After reinstalling Retrospect I just replaced the Dantz
> directory and
> > catalog directory with the copies I saved.
> >
> > It worked for me.
> >
> > Play it safe ... do a full backup of the backup machine
> (and a safety)
> > before embarking on this exercise.  If you have a full
> backup all will go
> > well ... bad things usually happen when you don't have a backup.
> >
> > Cheers,  Malcolm
>
>
>
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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-25 Thread Irena Solomon

FYI, the critical files are the preferences and your catalog files. The
config_5.dat and config_5.bak (c:/Program Files/Dantz/Retrospect) contain
all your license information, scripts, client logins, etc.

A full backup is always a good idea though!

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> Hi Mary Ann,
> 
> on 25/1/01 12:47 PM, Mary Ann Zhang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I need to reinstall NT4 server on a backup server and then reinstall
>> Retrospect Server v5.
>> 
>> I have some concerns about the existing retro config and scripts being
>> retained and
>> the 100 or so clients still being able to access the new install.
>> If I backup the existing Dantz directory and the catelog directory
>> and then restore these after retro has been reinstalled will
>> all be (ie: retro scripts and backups) as it now?.
>> Has anyone on this list have experience with this?
>> If so do you have any tips and traps you know of.
>> 
>> Given my lack of experience with this process any help would be greatly
>> appreciated.
> 
> I have had to do this a couple of times (with WinNT Workstation not Server)
> and all I did was backup the Dantz directory and catalog directory before
> reaching for the OS Restore CD and rebuilding the machine.
> 
> After reinstalling Retrospect I just replaced the Dantz directory and
> catalog directory with the copies I saved.
> 
> It worked for me.
> 
> Play it safe ... do a full backup of the backup machine (and a safety)
> before embarking on this exercise.  If you have a full backup all will go
> well ... bad things usually happen when you don't have a backup.
> 
> Cheers,  Malcolm




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Re: Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-25 Thread Malcolm McLeary

Hi Mary Ann,

on 25/1/01 12:47 PM, Mary Ann Zhang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I need to reinstall NT4 server on a backup server and then reinstall
> Retrospect Server v5.
> 
> I have some concerns about the existing retro config and scripts being
> retained and
> the 100 or so clients still being able to access the new install.
> If I backup the existing Dantz directory and the catelog directory
> and then restore these after retro has been reinstalled will
> all be (ie: retro scripts and backups) as it now?.
> Has anyone on this list have experience with this?
> If so do you have any tips and traps you know of.
> 
> Given my lack of experience with this process any help would be greatly
> appreciated.

I have had to do this a couple of times (with WinNT Workstation not Server)
and all I did was backup the Dantz directory and catalog directory before
reaching for the OS Restore CD and rebuilding the machine.

After reinstalling Retrospect I just replaced the Dantz directory and
catalog directory with the copies I saved.

It worked for me.

Play it safe ... do a full backup of the backup machine (and a safety)
before embarking on this exercise.  If you have a full backup all will go
well ... bad things usually happen when you don't have a backup.

Cheers,  Malcolm

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Retro Server 5 on NT 4

2001-01-24 Thread Mary Ann Zhang

Hi All

I need to reinstall NT4 server on a backup server and then reinstall
Retrospect Server v5.

I have some concerns about the existing retro config and scripts being 
retained and
the 100 or so clients still being able to access the new install.
If I backup the existing Dantz directory and the catelog directory
and then restore these after retro has been reinstalled will
all be (ie: retro scripts and backups) as it now?.
Has anyone on this list have experience with this?
If so do you have any tips and traps you know of.

Given my lack of experience with this process any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Mary Ann Zhang

Computer Systems Officer
Faculty of HealthSciences
Room 403 HS3 Bundoora Campus
La Trobe University



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