Re: [Rosegarden-user] Compiling Version 20

2020-08-20 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:21:57 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

>On 8/20/20 5:22 AM, Hugo van Galen wrote:
>> I have successfully compiled Rosegarden with Jack2. I suspect that the 
>> dependency list is a bit outdated.  
>
>I may have been the last person to touch the dependency list, and that 
>would have been several years ago. I can confirm that I build with jack2 
>myself. I have libjack-jackd2-dev installed on Kubuntu 18.04.

I hadn't even noticed it. I always have jack pulled in by QjackCtl :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Start oddity : was: Repeatable crash :(

2020-08-08 Thread Will Godfrey


Now running build 15906 and I'm not seeing the problem anymore {shrug}


On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 17:18:23 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   We've made some very significant changes to the way we discover and 
>connect to synths.  You're probably running into a problem there.
>
>   Run your usual test that is failing, then in the preferences, click 
>on the Details... button and copy/paste the text to an email for me. 
>That should help me figure out what we need to change to accommodate 
>your particular setup.
>
>   In the meantime, to avoid the connection annoyances, you might want 
>to consider going back to [r15892].
>
>Thanks.
>Ted.
>
>On 8/4/20 3:33 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Bit slow getting back to this. It seems fine now thanks.
>> 
>> I'm actually running build 15904. I don't know if I'm missing something but
>> Rosegarden no longer seems to connect to Yoshimi, if Yoshimi is already
>> running.
>> If Rosegarden is started first, then the connection is made.
>> 

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Repeatable crash :(

2020-08-04 Thread Will Godfrey
Bit slow getting back to this. It seems fine now thanks.

I'm actually running build 15904. I don't know if I'm missing something but
Rosegarden no longer seems to connect to Yoshimi, if Yoshimi is already
running.
If Rosegarden is started first, then the connection is made.

On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:35:50 -0400 Ted Felix  wrote:

>   Ok, should be fixed in [r15899].  I'm not too happy as I'm not 100% 
>sure what is going on to cause this problem.  It appears that a 
>mysterious refresh is invalidating the item pointer.  Anyway, should be 
>solid enough.
>
>Ted.
>
>On 8/1/20 9:33 AM, Ted Felix wrote:
>> On 8/1/20 2:41 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:  
>>> However one thing that's different is that when getting the crash I 
>>> opened the
>>> segment in the first bar and left the entry of the initial CC at zero. 
>>> then
>>> when changing time just incrementing it with the arrows so it's steps 
>>> of 60.  
>> 
>>    Got it.  It is crashing for me now.  Specifically the issue is most 
>> noticeable in EventView::slotPopupEventEditor() where the Segment 
>> pointer becomes NULL before the creation of the EventEditCommand which 
>> then tries to use the null Segment pointer.
>> 
>>    I will continue digging.
>> 
>> Ted.
>> 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] midi commands from Rosegarden

2020-08-03 Thread Will Godfrey
In Rosegarden you can embed any MIDI controller into any segment of any track.

The most precise way to do this is using the Event editor, where you can set
the controller number, it's value and its time within the segment (doesn't have
to be at the start). Whenever such a segment is seen by the playing cursor,
it's commands will be actioned.

Bear in mind the majority of Controllers are channel specific, so if you have
several tracks that are active all pointing to the same channel, then all
controls will be sent in order if the timeline reaches them.

If you start playing part way through, then the embedded controllers *before*
that point won't be seen.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Repeatable crash :(

2020-08-01 Thread Will Godfrey
Interesting. If I do exactly the same, I don't get a crash either.

However one thing that's different is that when getting the crash I opened the
segment in the first bar and left the entry of the initial CC at zero. then
when changing time just incrementing it with the arrows so it's steps of 60.

That's sort-of automatic for me, because it is how I usually place startup CCs
and NRPNs. Done like this I get a crash every time.



>   I can't reproduce this.  Perhaps my procedure is incorrect?  Here's 
>what I'm doing:
>
>- Launch rg.
>- Left-click to drop a segment.
>- Press "E" to launch the event editor.
>- Press "I" to insert an event.
>- Event Type: Controller
>- Absolute Time: 7680
>- Controller Number: 7
>- Controller Value: 100
>- Ok
>- Begin Loop
>   - Right-click the event and select "Open in event editor".
>   - Add a little to Time, Number, and Value.
>   - Ok
>- End Loop, repeat several times
>
>   Am I doing something wrong?
>
>Ted.
>
>On 7/31/20 4:57 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> I seem to have identified this while using Rosegarden to send test CCs to
>> Yoshimi.
>> 
>> Open a new Rosegarden document and display the matrix editor.
>> 
>> Create an empty track segment (I just right click on a track).
>> 
>> Using the event editor create a new controller and fill in any values.
>> 
>> Keep changing these including time, without saving, and after 5 or 6 changes
>> Rosegarden exits!
>> 
>> If you save the file after each edit, it never crashes.
>>   
>
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[Rosegarden-user] Repeatable crash :(

2020-07-31 Thread Will Godfrey
I seem to have identified this while using Rosegarden to send test CCs to
Yoshimi.

Open a new Rosegarden document and display the matrix editor.

Create an empty track segment (I just right click on a track).

Using the event editor create a new controller and fill in any values.

Keep changing these including time, without saving, and after 5 or 6 changes
Rosegarden exits!

If you save the file after each edit, it never crashes.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] midi commands from Rosegarden

2020-07-31 Thread Will Godfrey
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 08:56:29 +0200
Lorenzo Sutton  wrote:

>On 31/07/20 03:46, liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote:
>> Is it possible to send cujstom midi commands to a specific controller 
>> from Rosegarden once a track is selected?
>> 
>> It would be great if I select a track in Rosegarden and it can then send 
>> the midi data to my Motif XS8 to select the required patch.
>> 
>> All I want to know if custom Midi commands to a specified midi 
>> controller can be sent from Rosegarden. I will program the rest to get 
>> it to work on Motif.  
>
>What exactly do you mean by MIDI 'commands'? Are these MIDI controllers? 
>SysEx?
>
>Rosegarden can definitely send controllers.
>
>Lorenzo.

... and it lets you build up NRPNs as discrete CCs

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Build oddity

2020-07-31 Thread Will Godfrey
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
NULL gave the same result, but item.reset() worked fine.
Sorry I took so long letting you know but my 'office' is right under the roof
and it became way too hot to even walk in the room today :(

Will.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 08:35:24 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   The line in question is this:
>
>   item = nullptr;
>
>   It's not the compiler, it's the version of Qt you are using.  Prior 
>to 5.8, QSharedPointer didn't handle nullptr.
>
>   Removing that line will simply leak memory.
>
>   It can be fixed by changing it to NULL, or doing it the shared_ptr way:
>
>   item.reset();
>
>   I will fix this for the future.
>
>   See also [r15476].
>
>Ted.
>
>On 7/31/20 7:01 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> I have two machines, the older one with gcc 6.3.0 and the newer one running
>> gcc 8.3.0.
>> 
>> On the newer one rosegarden build 15895 compiles without issues, but on the
>> older one I get a mismatch type failure at:
>> rosegarden-15895/src/gui/rulers/PropertyControlRuler.cpp line 265
>> 
>> If I comment this line out the build completes and the image *seems* to run
>> OK, but I've no idea of the implications.
>>   
>
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[Rosegarden-user] Build oddity

2020-07-31 Thread Will Godfrey
I have two machines, the older one with gcc 6.3.0 and the newer one running
gcc 8.3.0.

On the newer one rosegarden build 15895 compiles without issues, but on the
older one I get a mismatch type failure at:
rosegarden-15895/src/gui/rulers/PropertyControlRuler.cpp line 265

If I comment this line out the build completes and the image *seems* to run
OK, but I've no idea of the implications.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Shorten default MIDI event duration for drum notes inserted from the piano roll.

2020-06-14 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:15:25 +0100
Will Godfrey  wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 22:40:34 -0400
>Ted Felix  wrote:
>
>>On 6/12/20 3:29 PM, Arnaldo Pirrone wrote:
>>> It looks like rosegarden sets the duration of the notes manually 
>>> inserted from the piano roll into the drum track to 3840. This causes 
>>> the velocity ruler to appear clogged up like you can see in the attached 
>>> picture.  
>>
>>   Actually, the code to do this is more complicated than just 3840.  It 
>>adjusts the size to end at the end of the bar, or at the beginning of 
>>the next note(s) of the same pitch.  I have no idea why.  My best guess 
>>is that it is trying to make all percussion notes contiguous to a 
>>certain extent.  No drum synth that I've seen cares about note-offs, though.
>>
>>   I modified the relevant part of the code to go with 64th notes and it 
>>seems to work fine.  Even open/closed hat work exactly as expected.
>>
>>   Before I push this, does anyone have any ideas why there might be 
>>such a complicated algorithm for computing the end of a percussion note? 
>>  The relevant code is here if you want to have a look:
>>
>>   MatrixPercussionInsertionCommand::getEndTime()
>>
>>   Warning: There are no comments.
>>
>>Ted.
>
>There is a problem I've noticed that might be related to this. When I run the
>synthesised drum sounds in Yoshimi Things like open Hi Hat, Crash Cymbal with a
>long tail (but can be muted) get cut short by Rosegarden, compared with 
>directly
>driven by a keyboard. This means I can't vary the tail length. Those that have
>a fixed length tail independent of note-off aren't bothered.
>
>Will.
>

Replying to myself...
It's actually more weird than that! If I set a drum track by itself, it seems
to work exactly as I want. If it is an existing project with multiple tracks,
the problem appears!

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Shorten default MIDI event duration for drum notes inserted from the piano roll.

2020-06-14 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 22:40:34 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 6/12/20 3:29 PM, Arnaldo Pirrone wrote:
>> It looks like rosegarden sets the duration of the notes manually 
>> inserted from the piano roll into the drum track to 3840. This causes 
>> the velocity ruler to appear clogged up like you can see in the attached 
>> picture.  
>
>   Actually, the code to do this is more complicated than just 3840.  It 
>adjusts the size to end at the end of the bar, or at the beginning of 
>the next note(s) of the same pitch.  I have no idea why.  My best guess 
>is that it is trying to make all percussion notes contiguous to a 
>certain extent.  No drum synth that I've seen cares about note-offs, though.
>
>   I modified the relevant part of the code to go with 64th notes and it 
>seems to work fine.  Even open/closed hat work exactly as expected.
>
>   Before I push this, does anyone have any ideas why there might be 
>such a complicated algorithm for computing the end of a percussion note? 
>  The relevant code is here if you want to have a look:
>
>   MatrixPercussionInsertionCommand::getEndTime()
>
>   Warning: There are no comments.
>
>Ted.

There is a problem I've noticed that might be related to this. When I run the
synthesised drum sounds in Yoshimi Things like open Hi Hat, Crash Cymbal with a
long tail (but can be muted) get cut short by Rosegarden, compared with directly
driven by a keyboard. This means I can't vary the tail length. Those that have
a fixed length tail independent of note-off aren't bothered.

Will.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 20.06, codename "Zepherine Drouhin" RELEASED

2020-06-03 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 23:00:56 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>The Rosegarden team is proud to announce the release of version 20.06
>of Rosegarden, a MIDI sequencer that features a rich understanding of
>music notation along with basic support for digital audio.
>
>   http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
>
>Included in this release...
>
>= Bug Fixes =
>
>   * Fixed multiple memory leaks (r15684, r15685, etc...)
>   * Fixed 100% CPU usage when drawing lines in the controller rulers,
> bug #1571 (r15705)
>   * Fixed multiple invalid reads (r15707, r15708)
>   * Increased the height of the loop ruler, feature #481 (r15718)
>   * Fixed CCs not going out when playback begins in the middle of
> a segment, bug #1560 (r15735)
>   * Fixed volume and pan CCs always going out even if the controllers
> were removed from the Device, feature #482 (r15750)
>   * Stop sending CCs on ch10 when metronome muted, feature #482
> (r15751)
>   * Fixed a problem with showing pitchbend ruler (r15771)
>   * Made default for expression CC 127 instead of 100 (r15773)
>   * Fixed a crash in Audio File Manager, bug #1576 (r15786)
>   * Fixed a crash when importing .ly as X11/RG21, bug #1579 (r15806)
>   * Fixed a crash on chords in pitch tracker, bug #1582 (r15835)
>
>= New Features =
>
>   * Track height can now be adjusted in the preferences, feature #479
> (r15710-r15712, r15737)
>   * New Segment > Transpose by Semitones... available in the Segment
> Canvas, feature #480 (r15715)
>   * Right-click can now be used in the loop ruler to set the loop,
> feature #481 (r15717)
>   * The current segment label is now displayed in the Matrix editor
> when multiple segments have been selected for editing, feature
> #470 (r15738-r15740)
>   * Segment "For Notation" feature, bug #1578 (r15805)
>   * Source distribution now includes these release notes in a
> CHANGELOG file.  The release notes will continue to be available
> on the wiki as well:
> https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/start#release_notes
>
>= Significant Code Cleanups =
>
>   * PitchBend and Controller Sequence Dialog cleanup (r15662-r15684,
> r15696-r15701, etc...)
>   * MappedEventBuffer cleanup (r15719-r15730)
>   * Colour removal and ColourMap cleanup (r15795-r15803)
>
>= Additional Contributors =
>
>   * Michael Stockinger (www.stockinger.org) - German Translation
>   * Juan Carlos Pineda Arredondo - Roland-D5.rgd and ZynAddSubFX.rgd
>   * Philip Leishman (lman) - Segment "For Notation" feature
>
>Ted.

Excellent stuff. Very pleased to see this :)

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[Rosegarden-user] Fuzzy Quantisation

2020-05-24 Thread Will Godfrey
Has anyone thought of this? 'Hard' quantisation tends to take the life out of
an otherwise mostly OK performance.

My guess is that you could apply something like a square law to the error
quantity so that notes that are furthest away would get the most adjustment.
Also, the ability to dial in the degree of correction being applied.

Possible?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread Will Godfrey
Hi Ted,

The only one that works for me is number 1 (transparent background), but then
I'm an old Luddite who finds familiarity more important than representation
accuracy :p

Thanks for asking us.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] MIDI Monitor Recommendation

2020-04-25 Thread Will Godfrey
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 22:10:49 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   So, it turns out Ubuntu 20.04 has dropped kmidimon from its packages. 
>  Does anyone have any suggestions for other similar MIDI monitoring 
>tools that display MIDI messages as they are sent via ALSA?
>
>Ted.

It's available from sourceforge, alternatively Will QmidiRoute do what you want?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] JACK MIDI... Why?

2020-04-10 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 15:49:51 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   Next question
>
>   Why do you want/need JACK MIDI?  (As with LV2 I may never get to it, 
>but some justification will help focus the effort if I do.)  Thanks.
>
>Ted.

One of the main claims of JACK MIDI is sample accurate synchronisation with the
audio. This is not terribly relevant when generating tracks playing live, but
becomes more significant where automation is used, or where control is being
bounced around several apps/plugins.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-16 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:50:30 -1000
"David W. Jones"  wrote:

>Hmm. How is polyphonic aftertouch different from regular aftertouch?
>
>Not that I have a keyboard that supports aftertouch, but someday I'll get one.

It is per key. So if you are holding down a chord then put extra pressure on
one key, *only* that one has the effect applied. This not only works well with
the left hand holding chords while the right hand plays a melody, but works
especially well with a split keyboard.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 20:06:27 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 3/12/20 3:25 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> People want it so that they can use various effects and instrument plugins,
>> some of which don't have stand-alone versions.  
>
>   Thanks, Will.
>
>   BTW, have you been working with the latest svn?  Some recent changes 
>might affect you.  Hopefully you have time to run it through the wringer.
>
>Ted.

I've been somewhat tied up with Yoshi stuff at the moment, but I'll try to find
time to give it a spin.

P.S. Advance warning!

I'm currently working on polyphonic aftertouch, and as far as I can tell there
is no controller support for this in Rosegarden.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:24:55 -1000
david  wrote:

>I'm definitely not in the professional league!
>
>I use Rosegarden for making scores and recordings of those songs. I 
>usually use the DSSI plugin to interface with fluidsynth.
>
>My experience with RG and Yoshimi hasn't been good. Way too often, I get 
>a voice/setup I want in Yoshimi, point RG at it, and RG insists on using 
>Yoshimi's default first standard instrument. I have to go back into 
>Yoshimi and set it up again, then it works. Until the next time I open 
>the RG project ...

This looks like Rosegarden is defaulting to General Midi and sending a reset,
which Yoshimi of course obeys.

I have my Rosegarden default file set up with:
Manage MIDI Devices->MIDI Playback set to a new entry 'Yoshimi'
I then set the track channels to that.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-14 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 10:03:32 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Saturday, March 14, 2020 04:31:42 AM Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>> Sorry for the long email, we are locked at home here in Italy and maybe
>> more prone to techno-philosophical  thoughts :D  
>
>I hope you are reasonably comfortably locked in, stay safe, and get unlocked 
>soon!
>
Indeed! it's a strange world we live in these days.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-13 Thread Will Godfrey
Just adding my take on the audio front.

I frequently collaborate with people who send me audio guitar and/or vocal
tracks. I load these into Rosegarden, then produce MIDI tracks to make my
additions. On very rare occasion I'll do some processing of the audio with
plugins in Rosegarden, but I prefer to pre-process externally, usually
with Audacity.

Once I have a project complete, I'll then play the audio from Rosegarden into
Audacity in parallel with audio from Yoshimi to produce the complete stereo
track. Finally, in Audacity, I'll trim start and end, and maybe run the fast
lookahead limiter and set the overall level.

For anyone interested below is a typical example from some years back. Vocal and
guitar is from Ged, the rest is Yoshimi.

https://soundcloud.com/soft-sounds/scarborough-fair-feat-rustysrtingz

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-12 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:43:47 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   Just wondering why folks want LV2 support.  Not that I'll ever get to 
>it, but some justification will help focus the effort.  Thanks.
>
>Ted.
People want it so that they can use various effects and instrument plugins,
some of which don't have stand-alone versions. I've no interest in it myself
however. As far as I'm concerned, with it's really proscriptive, yet poorly
standardised API it's very much a case of the tail wagging the dog :(

For some use-cases having jack MIDI capability would be of more value - although
I don't need that myself. My combination of Rosegarden plus Yoshimi does almost
everything I want. Just occasionally I'll add in Qsynth or Hydrogen.

HTH.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 19.12, codename "Yesterday" RELEASED

2019-12-23 Thread Will Godfrey
Some Good News :)

I did a full distro upgrade a couple of days ago, which bumped me up from GCC 6
to GCC 8. Then started over with a fresh download of 15660.

Also, this time instead of 'make -j2' (it's a two core machine) I just did
'make' in case there was some weird timing issue, and it compiled without
problems.

Since then I've been running through various heavy-duty Rosegarden/Yoshimi
projects without problems.

I suppose I'd better get on with composing some music now, and in view of the
season something along the lines of this:
https://soundcloud.com/soft-sounds/we-are-coming-home-1

Best wishes to the good ship Rosegarden, and all who sail in her :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 19.12, codename "Yesterday" RELEASED

2019-12-13 Thread Will Godfrey
Just found time to try this, but get a build failure:

[100%] Built target rosegardenprivate
Scanning dependencies of target rosegarden
[100%] Building CXX object
src/CMakeFiles/rosegarden.dir/gui/application/main.cpp.o 
/home/will/Software/rosegarden-15660/src/gui/application/main.cpp:
In function ‘void convert(const
QStringList&)’: 
/home/will/Software/rosegarden-15660/src/gui/application/main.cpp:356:10:
error: ‘doc’ was not declared in this scope ok = doc.openDocument( ^~~

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden and qsynth

2019-11-26 Thread Will Godfrey
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:07:50 -0500
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 11/22/19 6:39 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Exactly what setup have you got there if you don't mind me asking?  
>
>   1st gen Core i3-370M.  I'm using "top" to measure CPU usage.
>
>   I go with low spec hardware to make performance issues like this 
>easier to see.  This is how I was able to improve rg performance 
>significantly.
>
>   To me the important point is that while idling, fluidsynth uses a 
>small fraction of the CPU that zyn and yosh use.  That means there is 
>definitely room for improvement.
>
>   It's entirely possible that the issue is related to the fact that I'm 
>using whatever version Ubuntu 18.04 shipped with.  Maybe they built this 
>with optimizations off?  Maybe these are older versions?
>
>Ted.

Hi Ted,

That explains a lot. It would indeed be compiled with no options at all. This
is a debian requirement to maximise the compatibility across a wide range of
devices, and from their point of view makes perfect sense.

If I install such a .deb here, I get around 20% and this is almost entirely the
low priority stuff (using htop), so your old setup is actually doing rather 
well.

It is also somewhat unfair to compare with a more-or-less straight sample player
like fluidsynth which has practically no overhead. While there is always room
for improvement, Yoshi/Zyn have to do a lot of work just to stand still, because
absolutely everything is generated in real time. This is why we try to push
as much as possible out of the RT thread. The more cores you have, the better
this works.

Paul Nasca's original design is quite unique. Lots of people have said that the
'problem' is all the FFT stuff and it should use a wavetable design... until
they look at exactly what it can do and the amount of real time variation there
is in actually sounding notes.

Will.

P.S.
Sorry. That's turned into a bit of a sermon :*)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden and qsynth

2019-11-22 Thread Will Godfrey
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 15:59:42 -0500
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 11/20/19 10:56 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> There was one thing that grabbed my attention. That was when you say Zyn 
>> uses a
>> lot of CPU when idling.
>> 
>> I very much doubt that.  
>
>   I'm looking right at it.  I see an idling fluidsynth using 1%, jackd 
>(which is never idling) using 2%, and an idling zynaddsubfx (3.0.3) 
>using 35% cpu.
>
>   Yoshimi 1.5.6 uses 20% cpu when idling.
>
>Ted.

Well I'm astonished!

Exactly what setup have you got there if you don't mind me asking?

I've just tried building with no compiler optimisation, and it's still idling at
less than 0.5% However, that's DSP load I'm monitoring. If I include the GUI
(in it's own low priority thread), that goes up to about 3%

This is on a 3.1GHz dual core Intel. 


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden and qsynth

2019-11-20 Thread Will Godfrey
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 13:19:17 -0500
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   Since you seem to be OK with building software, you will probably 
>find my MIDI Guide interesting.  It covers almost everything and might 
>get you to a new and more specific place where the trouble may lie:
>
>   http://tedfelix.com/linux/linux-midi.html
>
>Ted.

Had a look through this myself, and found it very good.
However...
There was one thing that grabbed my attention. That was when you say Zyn uses a
lot of CPU when idling.

I very much doubt that. I don't know what the current status is - I have no
contact with the devs these days, and haven't run it for years, but it's
certainly not true for Yoshimi.

QjackCtl reports a DSP load between 0.3% and 0.5% on a middle-of-the-road
machine. There is (as always) a catch though. This depends on how many parts
are enabled, and the complexity of the installed patches. A fairly complex 16
part setup idles at between 6.5% and 7%. and when running (from Rosegarden)
this rises to between 20% and 30%.

Running 48k 128 frames/Period.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Looping

2019-08-19 Thread Will Godfrey
For the fumble fingered, numerically entered start and end bar positions might
be easier.
{not that I know anyone like that}

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Play/stop transport with space bar?

2019-08-14 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:08:26 -1000
"David W. Jones"  wrote:
  
>
>I think the sheet vs piano roll editor is controlled via a preference setting. 
>Don't know about the space vs ctrl+enter or record button.

Yep. I have it set that way - personal preference and all that :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] 17.12 & 19.06 Studio>Audio-Mixer

2019-08-09 Thread Will Godfrey
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 07:52:17 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

>On 8/8/19 10:34 PM, David W. Jones wrote:
>
>> I'm planning to move to a 4K laptop. Would it be possible to use SVG 
>> fonts/graphics for layout? Or some way to set large font sizes? This whole 
>> antique "specify sizes in pixels" thing is getting pretty tedious, even on 
>> my present HD (1920x1080) setup.  
>
>Rosegarden dates to a time when requiring a 1024x768 screen was a 
>controversial move.  Getting as much out of possible out of minimal 
>screen real estate used to be the name of the game.
>
>I haven't put any thought into fonts yet.  The way Rosegarden uses fonts 
>is pretty touchy and weird and full of legacy quirks, and getting it to 
>behave well with vector fonts will not be simple.
>
>What I have been thinking about is the icons.  The horrible irony is 
>that when I spent some insane number of hours remaking all the icons a 
>few years ago, most of them were in a vector format before I committed 
>them as raster images.  The problem we used to have was half pixeling. 
>This is hugely obvious on note stems, which want to be one straight 
>line.  If we stored the icons as SVG and left it up to Qt to rasterize 
>them, they looked awful.  That's why I manually diddled thousands upon 
>thousands of pixels.
>
>In the age of 4K, now we're looking at an entirely different set of 
>problems.  I don't have a 4K monitor yet, but I do have a 4K TV, and the 
>writing is on the wall.  This is going to be one of those things where 
>if we don't fix it, Rosegarden is going to fade into history.  I 
>understand there are workarounds right now, but they probably look like 
>crap.
>
>I am thinking about this problem with the intent to roll my sleeves back 
>up and do some work on this in the relatively near future.  I haven't 
>actually conducted any experiments yet, but I aim to do that sooner, 
>rather than later.  I figured I would start by doing a new set of SVG 
>icons, and making sure they look decent on my standard 1920x1080 display.
>
>I should get thinking about fonts too.  Everything should scale nicely. 
>The technology to do this is there, and we simply don't make use of it yet.
>

Welcome back - you never really went away did you? :)
Oh, and I feel your pain!

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Segment Parameters Box

2019-06-27 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 20:29:05 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 6/26/19 8:17 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
>> On 6/26/19 4:05 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:  
>>> That did the trick.  My only quibble now is that the label seems a few 
>>> pixels short.  
>>    I'll play around a bit and see if I can't give the whole thing a few 
>> pixels of breathing room.  
>
>   This looks pretty good:
>
> m_label->setContentsMargins(4, 3, 4, 3);
>
>   I'll go ahead and add that.
>
>Ted.

Very pleased to see these details being looked at. Appearance is sometimes
thought of as unimportant, but consistency not only looks better, but makes the
UI easier to use.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2019-06-13 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 12:52:46 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 4/3/18 12:35 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> If Ted can fix this he'll be my hero for life :)  
>
>   I'm now applying for the above position.  Sorry it took over a year...

Position granted :)
Much much better!

Also, the other day I was messing about with a idea (admittedly fairly small)
where I was doing a lot of cutting and pasting, along with some deletions, both
inside segments and the segments themselves. So far no crashes, so cautiously
optimistic there too.


Will.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Convert .rg to .mid with Command Line

2019-05-22 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 22 May 2019 07:52:15 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 5/22/19 12:30 AM, David Sicilia wrote:
>> Thanks, I have just opened this ticket:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/476/  
>
>   Great.  Thanks.  Providing a use case and rationale is really helpful 
>in providing motivation for selecting this one next.
>
>Ted.

Now, I could have done with that a few years ago when I was making lots of demo
files. So... yes please :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-05-17 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:00:37 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 5/15/19 2:36 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> My understanding is that nullptr is the 'modern' replacement for NULL, so I
>> can't see why it would fail.  
>
>   It is.
>
>   In this case, the older version of QSharedPointer provides no way for 
>the compiler to convert a nullptr (which is actually a nullptr_t) to a 
>QSharedPointer which operator= requires.  It's a bit convoluted and only 
>happens in rare situations.  QSharedPointer prior to Qt 5.8 is 
>unfortunately one of those situations.
>
>   Gorey details are attached in a small test program.
>
>> As a cross-check I tried changing a few old-style NULL with nullptr in
>> Yoshimi, and it compiled without complaint, so I'm quite lost now :(  
>
>   In most cases, nullptr is a drop-in replacement for NULL.
>
>Ted.

So far so good {fingers crossed}

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-05-15 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sun, 12 May 2019 19:51:54 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 5/3/19 5:06 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> I haven't forgotten this - I'm still totally bogged down with work on 
>> Yoshimi.
>> There is a *lot* going on!
>
>   Just pushed r15492 which was a memory access issue related to 
>deleting segments and the segment parameter box.  This may have fixed 
>the problem.
>
>Ted.

Just tried to compile this, and it fails with the report:

error: no match for ‘operator=’ (operand types are
‘QSharedPointer’ and ‘std::nullptr_t’) m_baseStyle =
nullptr;

What is really odd is that build 15419 compiled without issues.

As far as I can see the only difference between now and then (on my computer) is
a number of system updates fetched from debian.

My understanding is that nullptr is the 'modern' replacement for NULL, so I
can't see why it would fail.

As a cross-check I tried changing a few old-style NULL with nullptr in
Yoshimi, and it compiled without complaint, so I'm quite lost now :(

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-05-03 Thread Will Godfrey
I haven't forgotten this - I'm still totally bogged down with work on Yoshimi.
There is a *lot* going on!

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-04-19 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 09:42:42 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 4/8/19 3:56 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> I'm afraid I've still not had time to do anything with this - not fired up 
>> the
>> DAW at all lately - to much other stuff getting in the way :(  
>
>   I've updated the instructions for getting a stack trace on the wiki.
>
>https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/frequently_asked_questions#how_to_get_a_stack_trace_for_a_crash
>
>   I missed a few details before.  You'll need:
>
>1. A binary built with debugging turned on.
>2. ulimit set so that a core dump can be created.
>3. Run from command line.
>4. Use gdb's "bt" command to get the backtrace out of the core file.
>
>   I've been completely unable to reproduce this crash.  The core dump 
>and backtrace will be critical to tracking this down and fixing.
>
>Ted.

I'll try and find time this coming week - trouble is I've been really up to my
eyeballs lately :(

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-04-09 Thread Will Godfrey
On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 04:37:15 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

>I haven't tested the timing thing either.  My computer keeps freezing. 
>When I reboot it, I'm stuck at 1024x768, and the only way I have managed 
>to make progress on that issue is to reinstall Kubuntu.  I've been 
>around that bush three times now, and I have grown tired of the 
>aggravation.  This machine is rather old, and I suspect the hardware is 
>just flaking out.  Either that, or Kubuntu 18.04 is less stable than its 
>many predecessors, which I find difficult to imagine.  Still, the 
>trouble started when I upgraded from 16.04, so that may be the culprit. 
>So many things have changed it's more trouble than it's worth to me to 
>try to keep track of any of it.
>
>I had gotten in the habit of just buying a retail desktop PC off the 
>shelf, but you can't buy those anymore.  Getting Linux onto a retail 
>Windows PC is a huge pain in the ass anyway.  I guess I have to go 
>figure out what components to buy and roll my own like it's 1995.  I am 
>not looking forward to this at all.
>
>
>
Over here in the UK I found a company the builds to order, and are quite happy
to do so with no OS installed with the knowledge you are going to run Linux on
it, so will use known supported peripherals. They are not cheap, but I've now
had two machines from them and in both cases all I needed to to was install
from CD.

The latest one is a quad core Ryzen and is just over a year old now - sings
like a bird :)

Is there nothing like that where you are? 

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-04-08 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 22:18:27 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 3/28/19 6:24 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Not forgotten this - just busy firefighting yoshimi :(  
>
>   No problem.  I've been working my way through everything valgrind is 
>showing me to see if I can find your crashes.  Nothing yet.  Lots of 
>memory leaks, but nothing crashy.

I'm afraid I've still not had time to do anything with this - not fired up the
DAW at all lately - to much other stuff getting in the way :(

However, I think I can pin down the sequence of events a bit better.

I'll have several verses on a recorded over 3-4 tracks, and decide I want to
add a counter melody to verse 2. I'll actually start the recording a verse
ahead and begin to play near the end of that verse to get in the grove and timed
right, going on into the wanted verse.

When I stop, I'll wind back, cut the track by time, and delete the unwanted
preamble. Next I'll want to go into the 'good' bit to do some fine tuning, and
that's is the point when the crash happens. My guess is that the delete
operation has left an invalid pointer somewhere.

However, if *immediately* after doing the delete, I save the file it seems to
sort everything out and is then OK.

HTH

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-03-25 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 21:30:31 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 3/23/19 5:27 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Typically 3-4 minutes 8-12 tracks MIDI only.
>> 
>> Most commonly happens when splitting a track then deleting part of it. Actual
>> crash usually happens next time I go to 'Play'.  
>
>   Ok, thanks.  I'll see if I can reproduce with these sorts of edits.
>
>> Had a look at gdb in the past (ran away screaming) couldn't make a lot of 
>> sense
>> out of the information it presented.  
>
>   All I need is the backtrace which can be had by issuing the "bt" 
>command in gdb against a core dump.  Might need to do some configuring 
>to get your system to generate core dumps for rg.  E.g., run rg like 
>this from the command line:
>
>$ ulimit -c unlimited
>$ rosegarden
>
>   Then once you've got a core dump:
>
>$ gdb rosegarden core
>
>   And finally, use the "bt" (backtrace) command.
>
>(gdb) bt
>
>   Just need to copy/paste the output of the backtrace for me and I can 
>do the rest.  Might not pinpoint the exact problem, but will certainly 
>provide a data point to work with.
>
>> Some time back we had a segfault in
>> Yoshimi - gdb was no help at all and we found the problem by simply undoing
>> commits till we found the one where it changed :(  
>
>   A bisect is oftentimes a very useful tool in these situations.  But 
>only if it's an easy-to-reproduce problem.  Running gdb on a core dump 
>is best for intermittent or harder to reproduce issues.
>
>Ted.

OK, I'll have a go at that over the next day or two - bit busy at the mo.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo

2019-03-24 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:03:08 -1000
david  wrote:

>On 3/23/19 1:51 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>> Speaking of the redesign, are you planning to go in a different 
>> direction with the splash screen?  I tried to do a new one for every 
>> major new feature release, and all of them for years were different 
>> photos of the same rose.  There have been no new splash screens in a 
>> long time, because that rose declined and died after 20 years.
>> 
>> I finally tracked down what variety it was, and my eye fell on a 
>> different, very complementary variety, so I bought a couple of those 
>> too.  I put a lot of love into preparing the ground, and I'll get the 
>> last of them planted tomorrow.  There are four in all, with some new 
>> decorative support appliances, and I'm hoping for new rose pictures on 
>> the horizon.
>> 
>> If anyone is curious, it's these two:
>> 
>> https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25310/Autumn+Sunset+Hardy+Climbing+Rose
>> https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25643/Tangerine+Skies+Climbing+Rose  
>
>Oh, I like the Tangerine Skies one. How long does it take to start 
>producing flowers?
>

Same here :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-03-23 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:07:43 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:
>
>   First would be to characterize the editing you are doing.  Just a 
>list of the sorts of things, like track deletes that seem to cause the 
>issue.  Also, how big are the compositions?  Number of segments, tracks. 
>  How many minutes?  Does it happen even if you never play the composition?

Sorry to be slow responding - been busy!

Typically 3-4 minutes 8-12 tracks MIDI only.

Most commonly happens when splitting a track then deleting part of it. Actual
crash usually happens next time I go to 'Play'.

>   Next, if you can analyze the core dumps for me when you crash, that 
>could be a big help.  Though sometimes with memory issues, the stack 
>traces are useless.  Have you worked with gdb and core dumps before?
>
>Ted.

Had a look at gdb in the past (ran away screaming) couldn't make a lot of sense
out of the information it presented. Some time back we had a segfault in
Yoshimi - gdb was no help at all and we found the problem by simply undoing
commits till we found the one where it changed :( 

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[Rosegarden-user] Crashes :(

2019-03-20 Thread Will Godfrey
There seems to be a memory allocation problem that is triggered by deleting
tracks/sections. This has been there for quite a long time, but it has only
been a real problem for me lately because I'm doing a lot of quite heavy
editing, and have to resort to doing very frequent saves.

I'm not certain, but I get the impression that the very fact of doing these
saves seems to reduce the likelihood of the crashes.

Currently using build 15419, but as I said, it's been there a long time - years.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo

2019-03-14 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:22:06 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   I've got a graphic designer working on a new logo for us.  Here's one 
>of her ideas.  Let me know what you all think.
>
>   https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo
>
>Ted.

Personally I'm never really keen on logo changes. People come to recognise them
and automatically associate them with the product/experience. If a change is
needed, it's much better to make it a fairly gradual transition.

This one is a good example. I don't see anything in it that reminds me of the
Rosegarden I've been familiar with for many years. The only time I've thought
such a radical change was appropriate was an engineering company that was
actually moving out of one field into another.

Just my 2d - old money see :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden was used in the creation process

2019-03-06 Thread Will Godfrey
On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 08:56:30 -0500
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

>I've raised the bar on what constitutes my chef d'oeuvre.  I put this 
>together after the guy who got me into computer music back in the '80s 
>gave his brain the old lead swirlie.  Damn, I hate it that he killed 
>himself, but, uh, thanks for the inspiration?  He was a far better 
>musician, but I'm still alive being a depressed celibate born again 
>virgin, so I guess this is a sort of win.
>
>This is the least crappy musical thing I've ever achieved.  Rosegarden 
>was used in the sketching and formative stages, to produce scores from 
>which I improvised live.  Every part was recorded in one take, with very 
>minimal editing.  Editing and video were done on Winderz, sadly.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMRljr5mckg
>
Impressive genuine bit of blues. Sorry you list your friend like that.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Introduction: 80's and 90's sound from hardware studio with Ubuntu Studio

2019-02-18 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:21:37 -0500
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

>On 02/18/2019 06:48 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
>
>>    This is an interesting case.  I've confirmed this.  It's likely that 
>> no one ever expected a user to do this.  So, there's no extra code in rg 
>> to send NOTE OFF events when the current track is switched.  
>
>I'm going off memory here, but I'm pretty sure this very issue is why 
>the original developers implemented the panic button at my request. 
>Richard Bown's doing, I think, but it could have been Chris or 
>Guillaume.  I've found myself in that situation fairly often, while just 
>randomly dinking around as part of the creative process.  There are 
>other ways to get stuck notes as well, like changing programs on a 
>hardware synth with its controls while playback is rolling.  I'm pretty 
>sure I used to run into the same issues with my circa 1995 copy of 
>Cakewalk on Windows, which is what informed most of the expectations I 
>had of Rosegarden.  I went looking for Rosegarden's panic button, 
>because I was used to reaching for it.
>
>Rosegarden could send note offs when the user changes tracks, but it's 
>impossible to address that last case.  Well, I guess now that there is 
>some feedback into the IPB program controls ([x] receive external) I 
>guess it's not impossible, but it's impossible in my case, since I only 
>run MIDI one way to that synth.
>
>Anyway, I'm neither arguing for nor against any proposed changes.  I'm 
>just mentioning how I've made it this far without feeling like anything 
>was behaving incorrectly.
>

To make this change would actually break known and accepted MIDI behaviour. I
would prefer it to stay as it is. Indeed with Yoshimi we actually make use of
a variation of this effect - initially after I realised you could make use of
it to set up drones and effectively give yourself a third hand.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] RGD 'device' file for Yoshimi or Zyn?

2018-11-01 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 19:44:26 -1000
david  wrote:

>On 06/06/2018 04:54 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
>> On 06/06/2018 07:25 PM, David W. Jones wrote:  
>>> Would make working with them much easier. When I set up a patch (one 
>>> of the included ones) in Yoshimi, RG seems to set it back to YoshimI's 
>>> default patch.  
>> 
>>    A yoshimi.rgd comes with rg.  It's been there for a while now.  Since 
>> version 16.06.  Worst case you can always grab it from sourceforge 
>> directly:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/rosegarden/data/library/yoshimi.rgd?format=raw
>>
>
>Thanks, I found it there. Unfortunately, importing it for a new Yoshimi 
>device lead to a segmentation fault from RG when I clicked ok. Will try 
>again after compiling v18 to see if that fixes things.
>   
>
Was this ever resolved?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] sound output not working

2018-11-01 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 18:49:07 +0100
Alexander Abramidis  wrote:

>Am 01.11.18 um 18:10 schrieb Will Godfrey:
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:03:58 +0100
>> Alexander Abramidis  wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi there,
>>> I am a complete newbee to Rosegarden, so please excuse me if I ask basic
>>> things.
>>> I have a Linux Mint 18, 4.4.0 Kernel on a Thinkpad T530.
>>> My Audacity works quite fine and all other programs have working sound
>>> output.
>>> My installation Rosegarden (15.12) + Qsynth + Jack does not output any
>>> sound.
>>> I started that way: QJackCtl, QSynth, Rosegarden.
>>> No matter if I load a MID file or enter some notes and let it run, there
>>> is no sound.
>>> If have another program running (e.g. Banshee) it blocks the sound
>>> output of the other program. So I guess it uses s.th. in a wrong way.
>>>
>>> Can anybody please give me a hint?
>>> Any tip is highly appreciated!  
>> Have you set Rosegarden to look for Qsynth?
>>
>> Studio->Mange MIDI Devices  
>
>Sorry, I got lost. There is a lot of things in there: playing, existing
>midi outputs, midi inputs, midi recording ...
>
>but no QSynth, the "refresh" buttons have no effect, too.

Ah! I forgot - it's a long time since I used Qsynth! . It will show up on the
right hand side as something like '129:0 Synth input port (11147:0) (write)'.

When sending MIDI to it, the bottom left of its window should flash and activity
button.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] sound output not working

2018-11-01 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:03:58 +0100
Alexander Abramidis  wrote:

>Hi there,
>I am a complete newbee to Rosegarden, so please excuse me if I ask basic
>things.
>I have a Linux Mint 18, 4.4.0 Kernel on a Thinkpad T530.
>My Audacity works quite fine and all other programs have working sound
>output.
>My installation Rosegarden (15.12) + Qsynth + Jack does not output any
>sound.
>I started that way: QJackCtl, QSynth, Rosegarden.
>No matter if I load a MID file or enter some notes and let it run, there
>is no sound.
>If have another program running (e.g. Banshee) it blocks the sound
>output of the other program. So I guess it uses s.th. in a wrong way.
>
>Can anybody please give me a hint?
>Any tip is highly appreciated!

Have you set Rosegarden to look for Qsynth?

Studio->Mange MIDI Devices

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] End of Qt4 support

2018-07-18 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:55:19 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 07/18/2018 06:44 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>> On 07/17/2018 07:46 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
>> So I checked, and Debian Stable has Qt 5.7.1 available.  That's where 
>> I'd set the bar.  
>
>   OK, then I'm going to switch to building/testing with Qt5.  We'll 
>probably still be Qt4 compatible for a while until Qt5-isms start 
>sneaking into the code.  Once I notice that, I'll announce the official 
>end of Qt4 support.
>
>   Anyone with concerns, please voice them now.
>
>Ted.

What took you so long? :)

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[Rosegarden-user] MIDI transfer speed

2018-06-01 Thread Will Godfrey
Just an od thought...
When Rosegaren is sending MIDI internally to other software, does it still run
at 31.25 baud or does it transfer faster?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread Will Godfrey
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:07:11 +0200
Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsut...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Will,
>
>On 02/04/2018 19:36, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
>> make it *much* slower and less aggressive.
>> 
>> Today I was editing multiple tracks in the matrix editor and it was driving 
>> me
>> nuts. It is especially bad when moving notes pitch-wise :(
>>   
>
>Just curious: when you say "multiple tracks in the matrix editor", you 
>mean literally more than one track all 'merged' into one matrix window?

No, to be clear, I have several matrix editors open and flip between them when
making corrections, or adding harmonies.

>And what exactly do you mean with auto-scolling (not the follow playback 
>right?)
>
>Lorenzo.

With stationary matrix windows I drag notes around with the mouse; pitch,
position, length, and with the velocity controller showing also drag those -
sometimes singly, sometimes groups (thanks for getting the groups sorted guys).
When I'm in the 'grove' I move about quite fast, and the existing high speed
scroll when you get even remotely near the edges, can suddenly dump you three
octaves away - or a dozen bars :(

If Ted can fix this he'll be my hero for life :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 22:20:19 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre" <rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 04/02/2018 05:22 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks--at least I know my messages are getting to the list.  
>
>I'm very much less active than I used to be, but I still monitor the 
>lists, and I still look out for messages nobody else is answering.  I 
>looked back through my inbox, and see no other messages from you.  They 
>may be in the list archives, but I didn't get them.
>
>While I'm writing, I may as well let people know what I've been up to 
>lately.
>
>I was a MIDI and notation guy for many years, but then I bought a set of 
>drums.  I mostly play drums and guitars now, and I mostly work with 
>audio.  I was never a strong reader on guitar, and I didn't spend a lot 
>of time with drum notation either.
>
>My drum recording setup is complicated, and managing the hardware on 
>Linux is a complete nightmare.  After 15 years of using Linux 
>exclusively, I finally switched to Windows for audio and video 
>production.  Windows is survivable if you just use it for dedicated work 
>like this, and don't install any crap on it.
>
>Beyond all this, I went in with my son to buy a vintage truck.  The work 
>we wanted to do required a welder and a cutting torch.  Once I had 
>those, I knew it was time to set up the forge I had kept on my bucket 
>list for 20 years.  Once I had the forge, I wanted a milling machine to 
>make easier work of making cross-guards for knives.  Once I had a mill, 
>I wanted a lathe too.  I also got a vinyl cutter so I could make masks 
>for etching lettering and ornamental designs into knife blades.
>
>I was having problems with condensation on my equipment, so I did some 
>research and came up with a solution to the problem.  The guy posted his 
>finished project with just a vague outline of how it worked.  I gave 
>myself a crash course in Arduino, and put together the Dewbane 
>Condensation Management system.  It uses sensors, relays, and heaters to 
>keep my equipment heated above the dew point, so my expensive investment 
>is protected from condensation damage.  There has been a little bit of 
>interest in the hobby machinist community, and I may sell a few of these 
>commercially.
>
>So that, in a nutshell, is why I don't have time to develop Rosegarden 
>anymore.  I am very grateful to Ted Felix for picking up and carrying 
>the torch.
>

Always good to hear from you Michael.
I see you swapped one treadmill for another :) :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 17:30:57 -0400
Ted Felix <t...@tedfelix.com> wrote:

>On 04/02/2018 01:36 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
>> make it *much* slower and less aggressive.  
>
> > Today I was editing multiple tracks in the matrix editor and it was   
>driving me nuts. It is especially bad when moving notes pitch-wise
>
>   I fixed this on the "segment canvas".  Is the auto-scroll behavior 
>there OK for you?  If so, we can go ahead and copy that behavior to all 
>of the other editors.
>
>   The segment canvas auto-scrolls only when you drag outside of the 
>editing area.  The further you go outside, the faster it scrolls.  The 
>matrix editor has the older behavior where scrolling starts inside the 
>editing area.  It's also somewhat unpredictable as to speed.
>
>Ted.
Yes! That's a much better idea.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-02 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 14:02:11 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

>I presume you're not looking for the little icon near the playback icons 
>(things like Play, Stop, Rewind) which is labeled "Scroll to Follow Playback 
>(Pause)"? 

No, I'm manually editing in the matrix editor and dragging notes around.

P·S.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] RG 17.04 seems to leave lock files behind

2018-01-10 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:40:55 -0500
Ted Felix <t...@tedfelix.com> wrote:

>On 01/10/2018 02:46 AM, david wrote:
>> Was completely unable to duplicate the problem.
>> 
>> Must have been the phases of the moon or something. Thanks for fixing it 
>> quantum-mechanics-style simply by turning your attention toward it! :)  
>
>   Ha!  Computers are afraid of me.
>
>   Lock file problems tend to happen when rg crashes.  My best guess is 
>that it was crashing when it was going down and now it isn't.
>
>Ted.
>

Another way that's caught me (rather more often than I'd like to admit) is
shutting down the desktop, without first shutting down Rosegarden.

Wasn't there some discussion on adding some kind of time stamp to the lock
file, so that it will ignore one that was (say) over 24 hour old.

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[Rosegarden-user] A request

2018-01-06 Thread Will Godfrey
First of all, a belated Happy New Year to all Rosegarden-isters.

Is there any chance of implementing Jack MIDI for Rosegarden as and alternative
to ALSA? I know this is definitely non-trivial (from my work on Yoshimi) but it
would be a very welcome addition - and would also silence some of our critics :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 17.12, codename "Ultimate Pleasure" RELEASED

2017-12-21 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:39:52 +0100
Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsut...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 20/12/17 18:20, Ted Felix wrote:
>> ROSEGARDEN 17.12, codename "Ultimate Pleasure" RELEASED
>> 
>> The Rosegarden team is proud to announce the release of version 17.12 of
>> Rosegarden, a MIDI sequencer that features a rich understanding of music
>> notation along with basic support for digital audio.  
>
>Great! Thanks Ted Yves (and all the rest of the team...) :)
>Lorenzo.
>
>> 
>> http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/

... and a heartfelt thanks from me too.
I've been running Rosegarden for many years now. Occasionally I tried other
sequencers, but none have the breadth and ease of use Rosegarden does.

These days I only run the others occasionally to check they can handle my own
software. All of them have some weird quirk that Rosegarden doesn't!

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Make matrix editor default

2017-11-26 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:34:52 +0100
compl4xx <compl...@riseup.net> wrote:

>Hm, didn't work...
>
>the matrix editor window doesn't have a studio tab, so I opened it, but
>clicked "save current document as default" in the main window.
>
>double-click still opens the notation editor.

Sorry, forgot you also need:

Edit->Preferences->Behaviour->Double-click opens matrix editor

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Make matrix editor default

2017-11-26 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:56:10 +0100
compl4xx <compl...@riseup.net> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>sorry if this is obvious: but where can I make matrix the default
>editor? I couldn't find those settings anywhere under
>Edit>Preferences>Notation. And neither anywhere else^^ But as the docs  
>state that there is an option for this somewhere...
>
>Thanks!
>
>compl4xx
>
>

Studio->Save current document as default :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Tried to start RG 17.04 on my desktop, crash!

2017-10-29 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 19:19:47 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre" <rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Well, I made it through 2.5 weeks of notice, collected my quarterly 
>bonus on my last day, and handed in my keys.

Is that retirement, or just fed up with the job and moving on?

best wishes, whichever it it.

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[Rosegarden-user] Test please ignore

2017-08-04 Thread Will Godfrey
If successful that is.
Sourceforge playing silly buggers :(

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