Hi everyone,
www.worldofsam.org was first launched in 2005, on the then-current Drupal 4.4.
Since then it's been kept alive across new hosting services, new web servers
and new PHP language versions, but it's been getting harder and harder to hide
its age.
This version of the site has been
Hi all,
The Sam's FaceBook group recently drew my attention to this archive of over 600
Etracker tunes, which was quite fun and brought back the memories. Worth a
visit, and it will always help to have more votes in the ranking system:
http://zxart.ee/eng/music/top-100/sam-coupe/
Quite a lot
Hi,
I guess the Sam's 25th birthday is coming up this year.
I was wondering anybody regularly goes to any of the retro computer shows
which happen from time to time, and whether there would be any interest
from sam-users generally to meet up at one of them? If there's a good one
towards the end
:(
I'm using reCAPTCHA but they're all trivially defeated nowadays. This is
why we can't have nice things...
I've deleted the accounts responsible, but the recent comments block
hasn't updated itself, so I've disabled it until I can sort it out.
I need to port the whole thing to a less archaic
On 27 Nov 2013, at 12:36, Chris Pile chris.p...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
World of SAM seems down - is it just me?
Yikes - I had a crashed mySQL sessions table.
It should be back now. Unfortunately session cookies were invalidated so
everyone will need to log in again.
Andrew
Hi,
Oh my, that's some of the first c code I ever wrote. You're really probably
better off without it!
If what you want is to put a bunch of files onto a disk image, you can do that
in pyz80 without having to change it. Just use -I on a command line, e.g.:
pyz80.py -I file1 -I file2 -I file3
On 7 Oct 2013, at 15:48, SCjoe sam.co...@centrum.cz wrote:
Andrew,
did you make the PYZ80 work with the new Python 3, with any script?
(I started with the Python in the latest version from scratch...)
I'm afraid not. Python 3.0 (or Py3k) is not backwards compatible with older
programs, and
Hi,
Hmm. It's a while since I wrote that code, but I think the effect of commenting
out those lines may be that after an INCLUDE directive is used, it would
continue assembling from the wrong line number in the parent file.
Unfortunately I do appear to have made an implicit assumption about
On 27 Jul 2013, at 21:49, Andrew alp...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Been out of sam stuff for a while but i want to get back.
Anyone managed to use tommy gun to write for the sam? Or is there another
windows development IDE i could use.
Sorry, I haven't tried that one (I don't generally use
Hi,
Please calm down, most of those comments were on the web for less than
three hours. In any case, a couple of other people *do* already have
admin privileges over comments.
It's not quite as simple as me handing out admin accounts left right
and centre because the version of drupal running
On 1 May 2013, at 21:27, Stefan Drissen stefan.dris...@gmail.com wrote:
Just a heads up that there are two spam posts on WoS:
http://www.worldofsam.org/node/250#comment-1662
The second one was spam, but this one looks perfectly legitimate...
Andrew
Hi all,
Not sure if this ever got discussed here, but...
Did anybody ever manage to find the solution to level 3 of Waterworks II?
Andrew
On 18 Mar 2013, at 17:39, ellvis ell...@zeroteam.sk wrote:
Hi all,
just a short note, there was another year of Forever party this
weekend and for the first time we had a real Sam Coupe contribution,
which even won the Other 8bit demo category.
The name is Short Oldskool Demo and was
On 14 Jun 2012, at 11:40, Simon Owen wrote:
What I really could do with is a utility (preferably with a palette
editor) for drawing graphics (tiles, sprites) that runs on Windows and
spits out either DEFBs or binary files that I can INCBIN. Does such a
thing exist?
I mainly use Paint Shop
On 4 May 2012, at 13:32, David Sanders wrote:
The compiler actually didn't make mincemeat of this one :-)
http://www.dsanders.co.uk/living.dsk
Nice track! Reminds me of some of the demo coder music from Sam's early days.
Again you manage to get a much punchier bass sound than I ever can,
On 16 Apr 2012, at 16:28, Simon Owen wrote:
On 16 Apr 2012, at 16:13, Andrew Collier wrote:
It still amuses me that the biggest side-effect of my contributions to
the Sam scene was to necessitate accuracy in the emulators :)
Getting the textured scroller right in part 2 of MNEMOdemo1
On 23 April 2012 18:10, Tommo H tomh.retros...@gmail.com wrote:
Re: Samdos, is it definitely legal for redistribution? I thought we
had explicit clearance but I notice that it's 'not yet approved' on
World of Sam.
I've fixed this, it must have been overlooked previously. Dr Andy
Wright gave a
so this is what people do on the internet these days, is it?
Actually it does remind me a bit of the kind of stuff that ended up on early
issues of Fred...
You'd need to draw the stars manually, but that should be achievable.
Andrew
On 22 Apr 2012, at 19:45, James R Curry wrote:
There
on the Spectrum version, you could probably do it in Mode 1 or
2, just using the attributes?
On 22 Apr 2012, at 13:32, Andrew Collier and...@intensity.org.uk wrote:
so this is what people do on the internet these days, is it?
Actually it does remind me a bit of the kind of stuff that ended up
On 20 April 2012 10:56, David Sanders dsuzukisand...@gmail.com wrote:
Well this is embarrassing. Does anyone know who one goes about playing
compiled E-Tracker tunes? I've completely forgotten. I thought it was call
the base address first, and then the base+6 bytes, but I am demonstrably
On 20 Apr 2012, at 20:07, Aleš Keprt wrote:
I haven’t seen any protected EDSK files anywhere,
Almost all the previously-commercial software on worldofsam.org, for a start.
Andrew
:13 PM, Aleš Keprt a...@keprt.cz wrote:
Really? I didn't know it. Believe me, I don't lie, I never saw any EDSK or
at least I don't remember any.
I don't know much about World of Sam. It is something like NVG FTP archive?
Aley
-Původní zpráva-
From: Andrew Collier
Sent: Saturday
On 16 April 2012 11:29, Simon Owen simon.o...@simcoupe.org wrote:
Seems like a promising start: http://simonowen.com/raspberrypi
Speed is fine with the normal SDL build, even with demanding titles like
MNEMOdemo1 part 2.
Oooh! Nice.
It still amuses me that the biggest side-effect of my
On 16 April 2012 16:48, Simon Owen simon.o...@simcoupe.org wrote:
On 16 Apr 2012, at 16:17, Tommo H wrote:
Looking good though! Versus running it on a normal computer, do we get
genuine 50Hz output?
That's something I'm aiming for too, as it'd make a huge difference to the
experience.
On 12 April 2012 11:19, Graeme Gregory x...@xora.org.uk wrote:
Ok, to change the topic from current discussion lately ;-)
I am a newbie to the Sam world, I bought a machine on ebay as a whim and
to reach one of my childhood dreams of owning one. As a kid I could not
afford one and by the time
On 4 Apr 2012, at 23:39, da...@properbastard.co.uk wrote:
Was it just me who was sent a huge number of un-requested files?
I've added the sender to my email blacklist.
No, I got that as well (plus some personalised vituperation). I fear it might
be some kind of attempt at reprisal for me
On 16 Mar 2012, at 20:09, Aleš Keprt wrote:
I received a bunch of screen$ files in a tape file. I want to read and show
then at 25 fps. This is possible in emulator, because it loads files
immediately.
I have got this code:
10 poke svar 33,1
20 load “”screen$
30 pause 2
30 goto 20
On 12 Feb 2012, at 23:01, Stefan Drissen wrote:
Andrew's py80 (of which the only reference I can find is on a Czech site
referring to a SAM Revival article)
http://www.intensity.org.uk/samcoupe/pyz80.html
Andrew
Hi Stefan,
Eeek! Sorry about this. You must have uploaded these at the exact
crossover point between me copying worldofsam to a new server
installation, and the DNS change propagating out so the world would
see it.
Unfortunately there are a few lingering problems with the new
installation, and
On 27 Jan 2012, at 13:49, Andrew Gillen wrote:
Hi folks
I've finished writing my first game for the SAM. In fact it is pretty much
the first game I've ever programmed in assembler (certainly on the SAM
anyway) . I've tinkered with various high level languages over the years but
have
Roger,
Yes, sort of. To be more precise, in modes 1 and 2 a given cell can
contain either two colours in the range 0-7, or two colours in the
range 8-15. [And not one from 0-7 with another from 8-15].
However, unlike the Spectrum, the palette can be rearranged and each
of these numbers can
On 3 Oct 2011, at 16:22, Thomas Harte wrote:
It looks like a previous owner of my current SAM has had occasion to
replace resistor R55, or at least, to solder an additional copy of R55
on top of the existing one. See http://postimage.org/image/1g4kbz490/
Immediate follow-on questions,
On 22 July 2010 10:59, Thomas Harte tomh.retros...@gmail.com wrote:
Both pyz80 and Jam are supersets of the Comet syntax, but I'm not sure
what tools would be used to actually convert source back and forth
(since I think it's stored tokenised on the Sam?).
Back in the day, Simon Cooke wrote a
On 20 July 2010 14:03, Simon Owen simon.o...@simcoupe.org wrote:
On 19 Jul 2010, at 22:47, Stefan Drissen wrote:
Now hurry along Si and integrate the label.tab in SimIce… ;-)
If it's just symbols you want tied in, I'm sure that can be arranged :)
You may want to ask David to add page
On 27 May 2010 09:41, Roger Jowett rogerjow...@gmail.com wrote:
is the ram contention slower for mode two thatn mode 1?
Mode 1 is slowest (deliberately so; this mode was only intended for
Spectrum compatibility, so the ASIC attempts to slow the Z80 down a
bit until it is approximately the same
On 27 May 2010 10:46, Roger Jowett rogerjow...@gmail.com wrote:
and when the screen is off its like rom or external ram?
No, it's like time spent when the raster is in the border area; i.e.
rounding to 4 t-states still occurs, but not the doubling to 8
t-states.
Andrew
On 24 Oct 2009, at 20:08, Thomas Harte wrote:
Anyway, if some of you z80 experts could have a quick look and tell me
if I'm making any obvious style errors or otherwise missing obvious
optimisations — even if only on a peephole level — I'd be infinitely
grateful.
One trick I almost always
On 24 Oct 2009, at 23:46, Thomas Harte wrote:
By the way:
ld d, (NUMVERTS)
I don't think you can do this?
No, you're right, you can't. It silently substituted ld a, (NUMVERTS),
so that loop was running quite a bit longer than it needed to and the
result not being visibly different
On 4 Oct 2009, at 18:53, Stefan Drissen wrote:
Just a heads up that worldofsam.org is being spammed
Thanks, I've cleaned it up again...
Andrew
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On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:25, Andrew Park wrote:
Hello
I want to use JPUT (0133) to display my graphics to compare speed
with my own routine, on a 512K Sam where is the default screen page
stored?
I understand that as long as the graphics are between 16384 and
32767 or above 57344 in the
Hi,
I suggest using nvg for now. I think ftp.worldofsam.org might be
interesting at some point, but I'm about to go away for a couple of
weeks and I would need to edit worldofsam.org's DNS entry to add a
subdomain even if I didn't have to set up the actual ftp service
(Adrian owns the
On 3 Aug 2009, at 20:23, Adrian Brown wrote:
I remember selling my spectrum to part fund my sam and living
without a
computer for 5 months running up to the release of the sam before i
could afford one :) Those were horrible days, but all worth it when i
got the sam - even though it didnt
On 31 Jul 2009, at 18:46, LCD wrote:
maybe everyone is busy with their next SAM Mega hit game? ;-).
Actually, it's funny you should mention that
Andrew
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Simon Owen simon.o...@simcoupe.org wrote:
Andrew Collier wrote:
I think the only question it doesn't answer is what happens to the
112 t-state difference between the number of t-states measured with
the screen off (119696) and the number that would be expected
On 24 Feb 2009, at 00:27, Simon Owen wrote:
Andrew Collier wrote:
That would mean there should be 384*312=119808 t-states between frame
interrupts, but according to that article, if you measure the number
of instructions executed during a frame, then even with the screen
off
it turns out
border
near the frame interrupt, and is unlikely to inflict any significant
disruption.
Another rather interesting prospect would be that you might be able to
literally improve the graphics by plugging in a mayhem accelerator...
Andrew
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On 4 Feb 2009, at 08:33, Simon Owen wrote:
Andrew Collier wrote:
- an implementation of the inflate decompression algorithm from
RFC1951,
as used by gzip and other compatible utilities.
Very nice!
Can it be fed straight gzip file data, or does it need the file header
stripping from
Type 2 is the most efficient, and gzip
seems to use it for all compression levels 1 to 9, so it's unlikely
that anyone will see that problem...)
Cheers,
Andrew
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On 1 Feb 2009, at 13:00, Frode Tennebø wrote:
On Saturday 31. January 2009, Andrew Collier wrote:
Hi,
AS you may know, if you CALL a machine code routine with some
parameters, they are pushed onto the ROM's floating point calculator
stack. I'm trying to use this, but having some difficulty
call JGETINT
ld a,h
or a
jr nz, invalid_argument_error
ld a,l
dec a
cp 32
jr nc, invalid_argument_error
ld (TO_page),a
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the ProTracker player to support doing
that. Bear in mind it is decade-old code, though...)
Cheers,
Andrew
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towards, if nothing else.
Andrew
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wasn't compatible. I've updated that file and, fingers crossed,
everything is back to normal again.
Cheers,
Andrew
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for distribution.
Hi,
It looks like Comet is available from Edwin's own website here:
http://www.samcoupe-pro-dos.co.uk/edwin/software/comet/comet.htm
Edwin - i would it be okay by you, if I enable the download on WOS as
well?
Cheers,
Andrew
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 03:11:07PM +0200, Edwin Blink wrote:
Edwin - i would it be okay by you, if I enable the download on WOS as
well?
Go ahead you have my permission.
Thanks!
The Comet page on WOS has been duly updated.
Cheers,
Andrew
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: Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Short, short questions
Hi,
I'm sceptical about this claim. I've never heard anybody say that
the
vector formed is big-endian - it's just you don't know the byte
offset
to mind.
Anyway - in this particular case I wanted to display the whole screen; and in
the case of one or two scanlines, it probably takes longer to set up the line
interrupt handling, than you save by having the screen turned off.
Cheers,
Andrew
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machine that has a variable
screen start address.
Also, one further question: am I right to think that the Sam has no
means of producing interlaced video?
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 03:16:07PM +0100, Thomas Harte wrote
to fetch should imply?
The number of available t-states per second is the same in mode 2, 3 and 4.
Cheers,
Andrew
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r2+ T4* cSEL dMS hEn/CBBL A4 S+*++ C$++L/mP W- a-- Vh+seT
= 28
instead of
ld bc, table 12
add hl, hl 16
add hl, bc 16
= 44
HTH,
Andrew
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On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 03:22:54PM +0100, Andrew Collier wrote:
correction:
ld a,h 4
sla l 8
rla4
add table/256 8
ld h,a 4
= 28
You can also shave a little more time if you're willing to rearrange the table:
Instead of word pairs (low
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ina,(status.int)
.
.
ei
ret
- Original Message - From: Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Short, short questions
the table
and use the same address for all entries and over run it by one it
will work. My demo of a full scrolling football pitch used this
system, which I believe you saw many years a go.
Dave
- Original Message - From: Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users
to 64 pixels
in either x or y offset would take roughly 300k (plus a 16k table
pointing to the location of each routine) so that could be a viable
approach.
Andrew
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the archives are a useful resource. Now that you are aware
they exist, you might choose to exclude your past and future messages; that's
entirely your own decision, but I think it would be a shame if you decided
that it was necessary.
Andrew
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- your mail seems to be down - can you forward me the details for
the dns for worldofsam.org - its vanished i think due to my server
upgrades
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Andrew Collier
Sent: 17 March 2008 14:45
To: sam-users
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is to use a new pyz80 extension, whose intent should
be much clearer:
DEFS ALIGN 256
HTH,
Andrew
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On 21 Aug 2007, at 08:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Dan Dooré [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Gavin Smith wrote:
WOSam is currently getting spammed like crazy by a user called
brianbaker. Andrew or Dan can you guys delete his account? Is
there an easy way to delete all his comments?
I
are in different
groups.
not needed too urgently, but any help or links appreciated :)
Cal...
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On 29 Jul 2007, at 22:54, Simon Cooke wrote:
It's from the soundtrack to John Carpenter's The Fog - composed by
John
Carpenter
http://forums.finalgear.com/showthread.php?t=20392
That's the badger. Thanks.
Cheers,
Andrew
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On 28 Jul 2007, at 11:59, Dan Dooré wrote:
Andrew Collier wrote:
Hi all,
The music on Fred 34, E-Tunes, 4th track (Andy Monk -
Untitled) ... does anybody know if that's an original
composition, or based off something else?
Sounds like Faithless - Drifting Away (Paradiso Mix) to me which
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favourite text editor
(using familiar Comet syntax) then run pyz80 with them: it spits out
a disk image which you can load into SimCoupe directly. You can see
your code running within seconds of typing it.
Cheers,
Andrew
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a Spectrum. Has Sam Coupe written on
it).
Ah, the cultural celebration of ignorance. He must be a Cool Person.
Andrew
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On 17 May 2007, at 23:24, Calvin Allett wrote:
Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because of the Sam's memory timings, using JR is usually as fast (or
slightly faster than) using JP. That may change with Mayhem
accelerator!
Thanks :) I`ve been reading the 1995 posts to the mailing
don't see it up at
World of SAM.
Anyone...?
Thanks!
Gavin
Until someone gets round to uploading it at WOSam, there's a copy
available at:
http://intensity.org.uk/samcoupe/download.html
HTH,
Andrew
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stores the values for you to
check later (I have a vague recollection it does, but I may well be wrong!),
It does, and so does the ProTracker2 compiler.
HTH,
Andrew
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r2+ T4
, we see ORG address and we now do know this. But when we get
to JP
start, we don't know the value yet.
It may be possible to parse this file by running more than two assembler
passes, but
I don't think people write like this very often...
Andrew
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 03:34:33PM +0100, Geoff Winkless wrote:
Simon Owen wrote:
So, what are you waiting for? :-)
Integration with SimCoupé to include clock-accurate debug stepping and
real-time code reassembly? :)
SimCoupe: The Eclipse Plug-in
Andrew
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made it a
command-line option to enable this behaviour (because I had already
started writing source files which didn't obey this rule). Add --case
to the command line to get Comet's behaviour.
Andrew
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with FOR loops, IF ... ELSE constructs, local
symbols and more.
So if you're doing any assembly language development on the Sam, why
not check it out?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyz80
Cheers,
Andrew
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is limiting
your graphics to 16 unique colours - and Kaleidoscope doesn't help with
that.
Andrew
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that make it into production? Did the designer - or
the people at SamCo, who marketed it and put a write-up in the NewsDisk at
the time - ever actually believe that anyone would be able to make use of
it?
Andrew
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, into the larger .M format which E-
Tracker can load. That way you can see how some of the original music
achieved their effects.
Cheers,
Andrew
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, but I think I can have a
prototype ready for content by Christmas.
Andrew
On 13 Dec 2005, at 01:23, david wrote:
You're probably right.
It was a waste of my time anyway.
Project abandoned.
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On 10 Dec 2005, at 19:31, david wrote:
(Blah
just looking to image some disks.
Thanks for the offer; I'm not desperate to get my hands on it
immediately, but I'm very glad to hear it's being worked on!
Cheers,
Andrew
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Andrew
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going on in tracks 80 and 81?
If so, what can any of us do about it? Is there a way to create
SimCoupe-compatible images of protected disks yet? There was a lot of
talk about this about a year ago...
Simon? Anyone?
Andrew
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start one instead, and it hasn't
got going yet.
I'm about this close --- --- to give up waiting, and doing one
myself (want a job done properly, etc.)
Andrew
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and named it after him (it's a great name!),
and need to apologise/congratulate him. Thanks!
So you deducations are correct :)
Oh yes, so he did! Oh well, I blame a poor memory.
Cheers,
Andrew
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famous in other fields?
Cheers,
Andrew
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myself?
Andrew
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, david wrote:
2 - a PC (WIndows) based Z80 compiler that will output
to Z80 code
How about this one:
http://www.intensity.org.uk/samcoupe/pyz80.html
(purpose built!)
Cheers,
Andrew
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Andrew
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probably pay twice as much and get Logic Pro, but actually I'm very
impressed with the features you get at this price.
http://www.apple.com/logicexpress/
Cheers,
Andrew
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shamelessly pilfered.
Cheers,
Andrew
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