[Samba] SID problemRe: Moving a computer from a down domain to a new domain

2013-04-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
OK, this is a SID problem.  I built an new XP system, installed SP3 then 
tried to use the wizard to connect to the domain:


cat homebase-dectop1
[2013/04/12 16:21:44.899424,  1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3)
  The primary group domain 
sid(S-1-5-21-3360932306-476405-2840157550-513) does not match the 
domain sid(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894) for 
rgm(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894-1000)

[2013/04/12 16:21:44.899608,  0] auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'

[root@homebase samba]# cat homebase-dectop1
[2013/04/12 16:21:44.899424,  1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3)
  The primary group domain 
sid(S-1-5-21-3360932306-476405-2840157550-513) does not match the 
domain sid(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894) for 
rgm(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894-1000)

[2013/04/12 16:21:44.899608,  0] auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'

[2013/04/12 16:23:30.110032,  1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3)
  The primary group domain 
sid(S-1-5-21-3360932306-476405-2840157550-513) does not match the 
domain sid(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894) for 
winadmin(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894-302)

[2013/04/12 16:23:30.110200,  0] auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'


How do you figure out a SID problem and fix it?  This was a clean Samba 
install.



On 04/11/2013 08:39 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I had been running a samba server, the AMAHI F12 distro, that has 
samba 3.4.9.  It ran well enough, but I was planning on replacing it 
with ClearOS.  Well monday night I lost my server harddrive, so now it 
is crunch time to update/upgrade.


I think I have ClearOS configured properly, it is running samba 3.6.10 
(Redhat 6.4 based).  So far I have tried to add two of my XP systems 
to the new domain.  The process I have been using (and what I did 4 
years ago when I moved them from a REAL NT domain to the samba domain) 
was to first login locally as administrator and using System 
Properties  Computer Name Domain Change to move the computer to a 
workgroup called SELF.  I then reboot and use the same dialog to join 
the new domain, HOME.  The old domain was HDA, but a prior domain was 
also HOME.  This fails and in the samba logs I see:


[2013/04/11 20:22:29.563127,  0] 
auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'

[2013/04/11 20:26:01.504397,  1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3)
  The primary group domain 
sid(S-1-5-21-3360932306-476405-2840157550-513) does not match the 
domain sid(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894) for 
winadmin(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894-302)
[2013/04/11 20:26:01.504589,  0] 
auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'

[2013/04/11 20:26:44.676638,  1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3)
  The primary group domain 
sid(S-1-5-21-3360932306-476405-2840157550-513) does not match the 
domain sid(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894) for 
rgm(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894-1000)
[2013/04/11 20:26:44.676804,  0] 
auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'


rgm is a user on the system that has admin priv, and a user on the 
samba server that is in the domain_admin group.


What is with the SID problem?  How do I clean this up?




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[Samba] Moving a computer from a down domain to a new domain

2013-04-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I had been running a samba server, the AMAHI F12 distro, that has samba 
3.4.9.  It ran well enough, but I was planning on replacing it with 
ClearOS.  Well monday night I lost my server harddrive, so now it is 
crunch time to update/upgrade.


I think I have ClearOS configured properly, it is running samba 3.6.10 
(Redhat 6.4 based).  So far I have tried to add two of my XP systems to 
the new domain.  The process I have been using (and what I did 4 years 
ago when I moved them from a REAL NT domain to the samba domain) was to 
first login locally as administrator and using System Properties  
Computer Name Domain Change to move the computer to a workgroup called 
SELF.  I then reboot and use the same dialog to join the new domain, 
HOME.  The old domain was HDA, but a prior domain was also HOME.  This 
fails and in the samba logs I see:


[2013/04/11 20:22:29.563127,  0] auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'

[2013/04/11 20:26:01.504397,  1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3)
  The primary group domain 
sid(S-1-5-21-3360932306-476405-2840157550-513) does not match the 
domain sid(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894) for 
winadmin(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894-302)

[2013/04/11 20:26:01.504589,  0] auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'

[2013/04/11 20:26:44.676638,  1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3)
  The primary group domain 
sid(S-1-5-21-3360932306-476405-2840157550-513) does not match the 
domain sid(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894) for 
rgm(S-1-5-21-4240919292-2417995422-4236335894-1000)

[2013/04/11 20:26:44.676804,  0] auth/check_samsec.c:491(check_sam_security)
  check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 
'NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL'


rgm is a user on the system that has admin priv, and a user on the samba 
server that is in the domain_admin group.


What is with the SID problem?  How do I clean this up?


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Re: [Samba] User submitted job

2011-02-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 02/18/2011 04:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote:

On 02/18/11 14:14, Christ Schlacta wrote:

On 2/18/2011 05:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Is there a way for a user to run a job on the server?

In particular, I want to implement a 'one click' backup using 
rsync.  An icon on the desktop would do something (in a batch script 
maybe or some canned program) that would run a job under their ID 
that would rsync their home directory to a backup directory.




magic files.


In my experience, if you leave backups to users you're in big trouble 
because it doesn't matter how easy you make the backup it isn't going 
to get done.


Oh, I already have nightly rsync in place to backup the home shares; it 
rsyncs the whole /home tree.  But one very important user doesn't trust 
this (my wife!), so on top of what I am doing every night, I want an 
icon she can click on that would run a special backup just for her.  
Give her something she can 'see' did something for her...


Since the home share is the user account (/home/user), I was thinking to 
just create a .crontab or something similar that would then run the job 
once and now.  I would like to think there is something better than 
creating /home/user/.corntab, and I suspect this will not really work 
anyway.




DeltaCopy is what you are after:

http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp


I will look at this.
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Re: [Samba] User submitted job

2011-02-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 02/18/2011 04:15 PM, Christ Schlacta wrote:

On 2/18/2011 05:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Is there a way for a user to run a job on the server?

In particular, I want to implement a 'one click' backup using rsync.  
An icon on the desktop would do something (in a batch script maybe or 
some canned program) that would run a job under their ID that would 
rsync their home directory to a backup directory.




magic files.


What do you mean by this?  One idea I had was to create a file that the 
hourly cronjob would watch for, that would trigger an rsync and delete 
this 'magic file'.  But this is not immediate enough for the user in 
question.

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[Samba] User submitted job

2011-02-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Is there a way for a user to run a job on the server?

In particular, I want to implement a 'one click' backup using rsync.  An 
icon on the desktop would do something (in a batch script maybe or some 
canned program) that would run a job under their ID that would rsync 
their home directory to a backup directory.



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[Samba] What to backup on PDC with security=user

2011-02-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Burned once and all that.  I am setting up rsync cron jobs to back up 
what I would need to completely rebuild the server.


My PDC is running with security=user.  I know I have to backup:

/home
.../netlogon
.../profiles
/etc/passwd (and shadow, how to do this with rsync?)
/etc/groups (ditto)

What else?


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Re: [Samba] What to backup on PDC with security=user

2011-02-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz

thank you for the response, see below.

On 02/16/2011 08:21 AM, Helmut Hullen wrote:

Hallo, Robert,

Du meintest am 16.02.11:

Burned once and all that.  I am setting up rsync cron jobs to back up
what I would need to completely rebuild the server.
My PDC is running with security=user.  I know I have to backup:
/home
/netlogon
/profiles
/etc/passwd (and shadow, how to do this with rsync?)
/etc/groups (ditto)
What else?

Command:
 net getlocalsid  localsid.txt


And on a rebuild, how do I use this sid instead of whatever a new system 
creates?



Files:
  /etc/samba/private/passdb.tdb
  /etc/samba/private/secrets.tdb


These are in /var/lib/samba/private on Fedora 12; along with 
schannel_store.tdb


And what about all the other .tdb files I see one level down?


  /etc/samba/smb.conf

(and/or perhaps the whole /etc/samba directory)


I am using the Amahi system and it builds these from its sql database 
that I am separately backing up.

Do you use LDAP? Then there ist still more to backup.


No, I thought that the 'security=user' means that it is using /etc/passwd.
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Re: [Samba] What to backup on PDC with security=user

2011-02-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 02/16/2011 10:07 AM, Helmut Hullen wrote:

Hallo, Robert,

Du meintest am 16.02.11:


Burned once and all that.  I am setting up rsync cron jobs to back
up what I would need to completely rebuild the server.

[...]


What else?

Command:
  net getlocalsid   localsid.txt

And on a rebuild, how do I use this sid instead of whatever a new
system creates?

Command:

 net setlocalsidlocalsid

The simpliest way to get the parameter localsid is looking into the
above file localsid.txt; the SID starts with S-1.


Oh, so after I rebuild a system, I then overwrite what ever SID it 
created with this old one with the setlocalsid command. I do not specify 
it in some parameter in the smb.conf...



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[Samba] More Samba PDC problems

2011-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So I back up my settings for user1, by stopping smb and nmb on the 
server (I have to do this, rather than disconnect it, as it is also the 
DHCP server).  I was able to get in with the local cached settings and 
back them up.


I then logged out, started smb and nmb and logged in again.  I got 
warned that there were no settings and local settings were being used.  
I then logged out, and saw the settings saved on the server in the 
.../profiles/user1/ directory.


I go to log in again and get an error:

Windows cannot connect to the domain, either becuase the domain 
controller is down or otherwise unavailable ...  or because your 
computer account was not found


smb and nmb are running.  I try restarting them, no difference.

I had created the computer account with the script:

add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -d /dev/null -g 99 -s /bin/false 
-M %u


where %u is the computer name followed by a $ (this is how the other 
computer was set up).


I don't see the computer account as the problem, I did get in the first 
time.


So I look at the permissions for .../profiles/user1 and see they are 
root:users, I change this down the tree to user1:users and no 
difference.  I mv .../profiles/user1 to user1old and try again, no 
difference.


Why might I be getting this error?


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[Samba] Solved - Re: More Samba PDC problems

2011-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 02/15/2011 09:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So I back up my settings for user1, by stopping smb and nmb on the 
server (I have to do this, rather than disconnect it, as it is also 
the DHCP server). I was able to get in with the local cached settings 
and back them up.


I then logged out, started smb and nmb and logged in again. I got 
warned that there were no settings and local settings were being used. 
I then logged out, and saw the settings saved on the server in the 
.../profiles/user1/ directory.


I go to log in again and get an error:

Windows cannot connect to the domain, either becuase the domain 
controller is down or otherwise unavailable ... or because your 
computer account was not found


smb and nmb are running. I try restarting them, no difference.

I had created the computer account with the script:

add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -d /dev/null -g 99 -s 
/bin/false -M %u


where %u is the computer name followed by a $ (this is how the other 
computer was set up).


I don't see the computer account as the problem, I did get in the 
first time.


It seems this was the problem. Running the script is NOT the same as 
what happens when the computer is connected to the domain. I bet there 
is a password in there somewhere...


I deleted the computer account and went through the steps, logged in 
locally as Administrator to move the system to a workgroup then back to 
the domain. I only have a few systems, but this would be an APPSOLUTE 
PAIN with a number of systems. Now I have to find out how to back up the 
/etc/passwd shadow file so if I loose the computer again, I can 'easily' 
rebuild things.




So I look at the permissions for .../profiles/user1 and see they are 
root:users, I change this down the tree to user1:users and no 
difference. I mv .../profiles/user1 to user1old and try again, no 
difference.


Why might I be getting this error?



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Re: [Samba] Lost my Samba PDC, trying to rebuild

2011-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 02/14/2011 12:44 AM, t...@tms3.com wrote:





--- Original message ---
*Subject:* Re: [Samba] Lost my Samba PDC, trying to rebuild
*From:* Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
*To:* t...@tms3.com
*Cc:* samba@lists.samba.org
*Date:* Sunday, 13/02/2011 9:39 PM

On 02/13/2011 11:42 PM, t...@tms3.com mailto:t...@tms3.com wrote:




The problem comes with users. The users were user.HOME in
'Documents
and Settings'. But so far on the one computer I have tried
with the one
user I have on that computer, it is creating a new profile for
user.HDA. What controls the profile directory on the computer
(btw, the
OS is XP)? What do I need to do for it to use the profile of
user.HOME?

Disconnect the workstations from the network. Log in with the old
domain user account. Run the file and programs transfer wizard
(Start-All-Programs- Accessories...IIRC) and save the profile
transfer locally. Log in with new domain user and import the
saved profile.


I disconnected the ethernet.  I am logging in as the user for domain 
HOME.  I get the error:
Hmmm...you need to do a reboot without network connectivity on the 
Windows box. The passwords are cached locally.



I used this to set up another computer properly.  Now to go back to the 
problem child again...





The system cannot log you on now because the domain HOME is not 
available.


Before all this, if I did not have network connectivity, I could 
still log in locally.  Hmmm, let's try disconnecting the server 
instead...  No dice as the server is also the DHCP server.


Next let's stop smb and nmb on the server, but leave it 
connected  Just took longer, but still no login.


So now why is it requiring the domain to be present to log in.  No 
local log in?


So I restarted the services and got logged in.

If I log in locally as administrator, is there anyway to copy another 
user's files and settings?






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Re: [Samba] Lost my Samba PDC, trying to rebuild

2011-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 02/14/2011 12:44 AM, t...@tms3.com wrote:





--- Original message ---
*Subject:* Re: [Samba] Lost my Samba PDC, trying to rebuild
*From:* Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
*To:* t...@tms3.com
*Cc:* samba@lists.samba.org
*Date:* Sunday, 13/02/2011 9:39 PM

On 02/13/2011 11:42 PM, t...@tms3.com mailto:t...@tms3.com wrote:




The problem comes with users. The users were user.HOME in
'Documents
and Settings'. But so far on the one computer I have tried
with the one
user I have on that computer, it is creating a new profile for
user.HDA. What controls the profile directory on the computer
(btw, the
OS is XP)? What do I need to do for it to use the profile of
user.HOME?

Disconnect the workstations from the network. Log in with the old
domain user account. Run the file and programs transfer wizard
(Start-All-Programs- Accessories...IIRC) and save the profile
transfer locally. Log in with new domain user and import the
saved profile.


I disconnected the ethernet.  I am logging in as the user for domain 
HOME.  I get the error:
Hmmm...you need to do a reboot without network connectivity on the 
Windows box. The passwords are cached locally.


I did that.  I unplugged and did the reboot.  Apparently no local 
caching.  Is there some parameter in the smb.conf that controls this?





The system cannot log you on now because the domain HOME is not 
available.


Before all this, if I did not have network connectivity, I could 
still log in locally.  Hmmm, let's try disconnecting the server 
instead...  No dice as the server is also the DHCP server.


Next let's stop smb and nmb on the server, but leave it 
connected  Just took longer, but still no login.


So now why is it requiring the domain to be present to log in.  No 
local log in?


So I restarted the services and got logged in.

If I log in locally as administrator, is there anyway to copy another 
user's files and settings?



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[Samba] Lost my Samba PDC, trying to rebuild

2011-02-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz

My PDC is based on the Amahi server in PDC mode, running on Fedora 12.

I got it working previously through a bit of trial and error, and then 
bug fixes to Amahi.  Friday I lost my drive and did not have backups of 
my smb.conf, or my profile directories for my roaming profiles, or most 
of my data.  I had a rsync kind or written, but had not croned it yet


So the rebuild is well underway.  It looks like my server is set. So 
'key' lines in smb.conf are:


workgroup = HOME
server string = home.htt
netbios name = hda
add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -d /dev/null -g 99 -s /bin/false 
-M %u



so I added my first computer into the domain.  I did this by logging in 
locally as administrator, changing it to a workgroup then changing it 
back to my domain.  Looking at that script line, I suspect I can do add 
the other computers just by running that command?


The problem comes with users.   The users were user.HOME in 'Documents 
and Settings'.  But so far on the one computer I have tried with the one 
user I have on that computer, it is creating a new profile for 
user.HDA.  What controls the profile directory on the computer (btw, the 
OS is XP)?  What do I need to do for it to use the profile of user.HOME?



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Re: [Samba] Lost my Samba PDC, trying to rebuild

2011-02-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 02/13/2011 11:42 PM, t...@tms3.com wrote:





The problem comes with users. The users were user.HOME in 'Documents
and Settings'. But so far on the one computer I have tried with the one
user I have on that computer, it is creating a new profile for
user.HDA. What controls the profile directory on the computer (btw, the
OS is XP)? What do I need to do for it to use the profile of user.HOME?
Disconnect the workstations from the network. Log in with the old 
domain user account. Run the file and programs transfer wizard 
(Start-All-Programs- Accessories...IIRC) and save the profile transfer 
locally. Log in with new domain user and import the saved profile.


I disconnected the ethernet.  I am logging in as the user for domain 
HOME.  I get the error:


The system cannot log you on now because the domain HOME is not available.

Before all this, if I did not have network connectivity, I could still 
log in locally.  Hmmm, let's try disconnecting the server instead...  No 
dice as the server is also the DHCP server.


Next let's stop smb and nmb on the server, but leave it connected  
Just took longer, but still no login.


So now why is it requiring the domain to be present to log in.  No local 
log in?


So I restarted the services and got logged in.

If I log in locally as administrator, is there anyway to copy another 
user's files and settings?







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[Samba] Can't change password where Samba users are Linux users

2010-10-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz

My PDC is set up where the users are all Linux users.

I added the following lines to my smb.conf:

  unix password sync = Yes
  passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
  passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n *ReType*new*UNIX*password* 
%n\n *passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updat

ed*successfully*

I go to C-A-D and use the change password button.  I get back a message 
that I do not have permission to change me password.


I do not see any messages in any of the smb or nmb logs after the 
failure.  What am I missing?  Below is my [global section:


workgroup = Home
server string = home.home
netbios name = hda
printing = cups
printcap name = cups
load printers = yes
cups options = raw
log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log
log level = 0
max log size = 150
socket options = TCP_NODELAY
preferred master = yes
os level = 65
domain master = yes
local master = yes
admin users = u1, u2, u3
domain logons = yes
logon path = \\%L\profiles\%U
logon drive = h:
logon home = \\%N\%U
time server = yes
unix extensions = no
wide links = yes
veto files = /*.nws/riched20.dll/*.{*}/
security = user
username map script = /usr/share/hda-platform/hda-usermap
large readwrite = yes
encrypt passwords = yes
dos charset = CP850
unix charset = UTF8
display charset =  LOCALE
guest account = nobody
map to guest = Bad User
wins support = yes
printer admin = root, @ntadmin, administrator
logon script = %U.bat
# FIXME - is 99 (nobody) the right group?
add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -d /dev/null -g 99 -s 
/bin/false -M %u


  unix password sync = Yes
  passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
  passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n *ReType*new*UNIX*password* 
%n\n *passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updat

ed*successfully*


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[Samba] Workgroup compared to Domain

2010-10-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Are there any good articles comparing features/functions of a Workgroup 
compared to a Domain?


I am trying to put something together for the Amahi project and so far 
my searches have been rather slim pickins.



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[Samba] SOLVED -- Re: Domain user printing

2010-10-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Thanks to the help here and hints over on the SME forum, I got printing 
working.


Basically you have to be logged in on the domain with an admin user and 
THEN install the printer drivers.


So first I had to unistall the drivers, using a local admin user account.

Then I had to log in to the domain with an admin user.  For this I 
needed the line:


admin users = user1

And I had to spell that right (I had 'admin user' and I did not note any 
error in starting smb services).


Then I installed the driver from this user and it could print.  I could 
then log in with a non-admin user and they could also print.


So anyone that has some control over wiki content for Samba might want 
to put this in for local printer installs:


At least if your printer is a network attached printer and you are 
printing directly to it, you install the printer drivers while logged in 
as a domain admin user.


On 10/26/2010 01:51 PM, Dale Schroeder wrote:

On 10/26/2010 11:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/26/2010 06:39 AM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 25/10/2010 19:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

It looks like a domain user has NO printing permission.

Do I need Policy Editor for this? Where do I get it to run on an XP 
Pro

system?

I have seen various notes about this, but I can't make head or 
tails of

them.




Robert,
Have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Implementing_System_Policies_with_Samba
This explains deployment of system policy through samba 3.X. It also 
outlines the difference between system policy and group policy
You can still use Local Group Policy (through gpedit.msc), but as 
the name suggests its local to every machine, and not deployable 
from the Domain Controller.


What good is it to know how to implement a policy for all computers 
on the domain if you don't know what policy is giving you the problem?


How do I troubleshoot this blockage.   All I get is the print failure 
when using a domain user.


Robert,

Are any of the group policies in the following section set?  A 
previous email stated you were looking at templates under Computer 
Configuration, so check under


*User Configuration*\Administrative Templates\Control Panel\Printers

Details here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319939

Dale




If you using samba4 have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO#Step_1:_Installing_Windows_Remote_Administration_Tools_onto_Windows 

These tools include Group Policy Management console that works very 
well with samba4


HTH

Luk


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Re: [Samba] Domain user printing

2010-10-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/26/2010 06:39 AM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 25/10/2010 19:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

It looks like a domain user has NO printing permission.

Do I need Policy Editor for this? Where do I get it to run on an XP Pro
system?

I have seen various notes about this, but I can't make head or tails of
them.




Robert,
Have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Implementing_System_Policies_with_Samba
This explains deployment of system policy through samba 3.X. It also 
outlines the difference between system policy and group policy
You can still use Local Group Policy (through gpedit.msc), but as the 
name suggests its local to every machine, and not deployable from the 
Domain Controller.


Thanks for this reference.  I see it is rather old as originally set up 
on '06 and last modified in '08.  It would see that Samba PDC setup 
instructions would do a better job of pointing here.


The 'big item' now is which policy to get the HP printer drivers loaded 
to use the local printer setup, as I could not find it on what is 
available in XP, or I just have not set the policy right yet.  As well 
as what policy is blocking connecting to a printer share.  It would be 
nice if there was some logging of the blocking policy.


If you using samba4 have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO#Step_1:_Installing_Windows_Remote_Administration_Tools_onto_Windows 

These tools include Group Policy Management console that works very 
well with samba4


FC12 comes with 3.4.9, it seems.  So I am staying with what the distro 
provides.



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Re: [Samba] Domain user printing

2010-10-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/26/2010 06:39 AM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 25/10/2010 19:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

It looks like a domain user has NO printing permission.

Do I need Policy Editor for this? Where do I get it to run on an XP Pro
system?

I have seen various notes about this, but I can't make head or tails of
them.




Robert,
Have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Implementing_System_Policies_with_Samba
This explains deployment of system policy through samba 3.X. It also 
outlines the difference between system policy and group policy
You can still use Local Group Policy (through gpedit.msc), but as the 
name suggests its local to every machine, and not deployable from the 
Domain Controller.


What good is it to know how to implement a policy for all computers on 
the domain if you don't know what policy is giving you the problem?


How do I troubleshoot this blockage.   All I get is the print failure 
when using a domain user.



If you using samba4 have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO#Step_1:_Installing_Windows_Remote_Administration_Tools_onto_Windows 

These tools include Group Policy Management console that works very 
well with samba4


HTH

Luk


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Re: [Samba] Domain user printing

2010-10-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/26/2010 01:51 PM, Dale Schroeder wrote:

On 10/26/2010 11:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/26/2010 06:39 AM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 25/10/2010 19:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

It looks like a domain user has NO printing permission.

Do I need Policy Editor for this? Where do I get it to run on an XP 
Pro

system?

I have seen various notes about this, but I can't make head or 
tails of

them.




Robert,
Have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Implementing_System_Policies_with_Samba
This explains deployment of system policy through samba 3.X. It also 
outlines the difference between system policy and group policy
You can still use Local Group Policy (through gpedit.msc), but as 
the name suggests its local to every machine, and not deployable 
from the Domain Controller.


What good is it to know how to implement a policy for all computers 
on the domain if you don't know what policy is giving you the problem?


How do I troubleshoot this blockage.   All I get is the print failure 
when using a domain user.


Robert,

Are any of the group policies in the following section set?  A 
previous email stated you were looking at templates under Computer 
Configuration, so check under


*User Configuration*\Administrative Templates\Control Panel\Printers

Details here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319939


This looks promising.  That is exactly the error message I got when 
trying to connect to the PDC's print share.


The kb only shows how to add this to the registry, not set it as a 
policy.  But the links for the SPE may be a help for this...





Dale




If you using samba4 have a look at 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO#Step_1:_Installing_Windows_Remote_Administration_Tools_onto_Windows 

These tools include Group Policy Management console that works very 
well with samba4


HTH

Luk


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[Samba] Domain user printing

2010-10-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz

It looks like a domain user has NO printing permission.

Do I need Policy Editor for this?  Where do I get it to run on an XP Pro 
system?


I have seen various notes about this, but I can't make head or tails of 
them.



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[Samba] Can I have a pointer to an XP discussion list for policies?

2010-10-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Obviously I am missing something major here. Or maybe just a minor thing.

My smb.conf looks rather normal, and the domain user are Linux users, so 
there is no extra permissions.


A domain user cannot print to a network attached printer that is using 
the HP printer port (9100).  This seems to be a local policy block, as a 
local user can print to it.  (note that a domain user CAN print to the 
XPS document writer 'printer').


A domain user cannot connect to a printer share, it gets an obvious 
policy error.


So since there is no help over here to my earlier posts, perhaps an XP 
list might have some answers  :(




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[Samba] Oh, that is CAN'T print -- Re: Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Perhaps some people were wondering from the subject what the issues were!

Obviously there is a solution to this. Either there is something NOT 
right about my PDC setup or some special tool for getting the policies 
set up right. There SEEMS to be a need for a special policy to allow 
domain users to access the local printer or to access a printer share...


I am NOT using LDAP for the PDC, all users are Linux users with their 
own /home/user directory as their Home share.


On 10/22/2010 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 10/22/2010 04:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 04:03 PM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 22/10/2010 20:38, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 03:22 PM, Chris Smith wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert 
Moskowitzr...@htt-consult.com

wrote:

This is an OEM installed XP from a resaler. I would NOT be supprised
that
there are some serious limitations on the XP installed.

No functional limitations on OEM versions, except that some were tied
to specific manufacturers (they wouldn't install if the BIOS string
did not identify the device as that manufacturers).


The license is an OEM license (per system properties) registered to 
the

E-Waste Recycler I bought it from. It is an IBM SFF.

But why no policies for allowing printing when attacked to a 
domain? Why

not connect when domain logged in.

Robert,
Are you using AD for group policy, samba (system policy) or local 
group policy. I have noticed, that on my XP client machines not all 
of the policies are present until you add appropriate templates 
(don't know if its SP3 feature). If you right-click on 
Administrative templates, there will be an option to Add/Remove 
templates. The required policy is part of system.adm


I don't know what policy I am using. I suppose whatever is installed 
on the system?


Oh, NOW I see what I was doing wrong. Now I have added system.adm 
policy and I see printers. Here goes!


Well I enabled a couple of things.

I disabled: Disallow install of printers using ker-mode drv
I enabled: Allow print spooler to accept clients
Web-based printing

I could not figure out what really to do.

This has not made any change to the system behaviour :(

I am off now until Saturday night. I will look for help again then!





I tried connecting to the server printer share from a local login, and
that got past the policy block and was asking for the printer 
driver. So
it is REALLY something tied into how a domain user acts on this 
system.







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[Samba] Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz

This is on an XP Pro workstation.

Now I am trying to print.

I can print from a local user.  I added domain\user to the permisssions 
for the printer.  I try a test print from the printer properties and get 
an error.


Then I think, well I can print to the printer from the Samba PDC 
directly, and I have a print share, so lets attach it.


So I go to the run dialog and enter \\server

I get a windows browser window of all of my shares including the printer 
share.  So I right click on it and check connect and I get the error:


A policy is in effect on your computer which prevents you from 
connecting to this print queue.  Please contact your system 
administrator (which of course is me :(  ).


So what policy might this be that is blocking printing and how can I fix 
this for printing either way...



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Re: [Samba] Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/22/2010 01:33 PM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 22/10/2010 18:13, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

This is on an XP Pro workstation.

Now I am trying to print.

I can print from a local user. I added domain\user to the permisssions
for the printer. I try a test print from the printer properties and get
an error.

Then I think, well I can print to the printer from the Samba PDC
directly, and I have a print share, so lets attach it.

So I go to the run dialog and enter \\server

I get a windows browser window of all of my shares including the printer
share. So I right click on it and check connect and I get the error:

A policy is in effect on your computer which prevents you from
connecting to this print queue. Please contact your system administrator
(which of course is me :( ).

So what policy might this be that is blocking printing and how can I fix
this for printing either way...




Check Point and Print Restrictions
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781985%28WS.10%29.aspx


I have and can't figure out what to do with this  :(


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Re: [Samba] Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/22/2010 02:02 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 01:33 PM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 22/10/2010 18:13, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

This is on an XP Pro workstation.

Now I am trying to print.

I can print from a local user. I added domain\user to the permisssions
for the printer. I try a test print from the printer properties and get
an error.

Then I think, well I can print to the printer from the Samba PDC
directly, and I have a print share, so lets attach it.

So I go to the run dialog and enter \\server

I get a windows browser window of all of my shares including the 
printer

share. So I right click on it and check connect and I get the error:

A policy is in effect on your computer which prevents you from
connecting to this print queue. Please contact your system 
administrator

(which of course is me :( ).

So what policy might this be that is blocking printing and how can I 
fix

this for printing either way...




Check Point and Print Restrictions
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781985%28WS.10%29.aspx


I have and can't figure out what to do with this :(


I got group editor running, but in Computer Configuration  
Administrative Templates There is no Printer option at all


Nor can I figure out how to add it. It is not in the list of allowable 
templates to add.



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Re: [Samba] Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 10/22/2010 02:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 02:02 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 01:33 PM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 22/10/2010 18:13, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

This is on an XP Pro workstation.

Now I am trying to print.

I can print from a local user. I added domain\user to the permisssions
for the printer. I try a test print from the printer properties and 
get

an error.

Then I think, well I can print to the printer from the Samba PDC
directly, and I have a print share, so lets attach it.

So I go to the run dialog and enter \\server

I get a windows browser window of all of my shares including the 
printer

share. So I right click on it and check connect and I get the error:

A policy is in effect on your computer which prevents you from
connecting to this print queue. Please contact your system 
administrator

(which of course is me :( ).

So what policy might this be that is blocking printing and how can 
I fix

this for printing either way...




Check Point and Print Restrictions
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781985%28WS.10%29.aspx


I have and can't figure out what to do with this :(


I got group editor running, but in Computer Configuration  
Administrative Templates There is no Printer option at all


Nor can I figure out how to add it. It is not in the list of allowable 
templates to add.


This is an OEM installed XP from a resaler. I would NOT be supprised 
that there are some serious limitations on the XP installed. Am I going 
to have to reinstall? (and first remove the workstation from the domain)?



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Re: [Samba] Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/22/2010 03:22 PM, Chris Smith wrote:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert Moskowitzr...@htt-consult.com  wrote:
   

This is an OEM installed XP from a resaler. I would NOT be supprised that
there are some serious limitations on the XP installed.
 

No functional limitations on OEM versions, except that some were tied
to specific manufacturers (they wouldn't install if the BIOS string
did not identify the device as that manufacturers).


The license is an OEM license (per system properties) registered to the 
E-Waste Recycler I bought it from.  It is an IBM SFF.


But why no policies for allowing printing when attacked to a domain?  
Why not connect when domain logged in.


I tried connecting to the server printer share from a local login, and 
that got past the policy block and was asking for the printer driver.  
So it is REALLY something tied into how a domain user acts on this system.



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Re: [Samba] Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/22/2010 04:03 PM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 22/10/2010 20:38, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 03:22 PM, Chris Smith wrote:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert Moskowitzr...@htt-consult.com
wrote:

This is an OEM installed XP from a resaler. I would NOT be supprised
that
there are some serious limitations on the XP installed.

No functional limitations on OEM versions, except that some were tied
to specific manufacturers (they wouldn't install if the BIOS string
did not identify the device as that manufacturers).


The license is an OEM license (per system properties) registered to the
E-Waste Recycler I bought it from. It is an IBM SFF.

But why no policies for allowing printing when attacked to a domain? Why
not connect when domain logged in.

Robert,
Are you using AD for group policy, samba (system policy) or local 
group policy. I have noticed, that on my XP client machines not all of 
the policies are present until you add appropriate templates (don't 
know if its SP3 feature). If you right-click on Administrative 
templates, there will be an option to Add/Remove templates. The 
required policy is part of system.adm


I don't know what policy I am using.  I suppose whatever is installed on 
the system?


Oh, NOW I see what I was doing wrong.  Now I have added system.adm 
policy and I see printers.  Here goes!




I tried connecting to the server printer share from a local login, and
that got past the policy block and was asking for the printer driver. So
it is REALLY something tied into how a domain user acts on this system.






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Re: [Samba] Can print when logged in as domain user

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 10/22/2010 04:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 04:03 PM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

On 22/10/2010 20:38, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/22/2010 03:22 PM, Chris Smith wrote:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert Moskowitzr...@htt-consult.com
wrote:

This is an OEM installed XP from a resaler. I would NOT be supprised
that
there are some serious limitations on the XP installed.

No functional limitations on OEM versions, except that some were tied
to specific manufacturers (they wouldn't install if the BIOS string
did not identify the device as that manufacturers).


The license is an OEM license (per system properties) registered to the
E-Waste Recycler I bought it from. It is an IBM SFF.

But why no policies for allowing printing when attacked to a domain? 
Why

not connect when domain logged in.

Robert,
Are you using AD for group policy, samba (system policy) or local 
group policy. I have noticed, that on my XP client machines not all 
of the policies are present until you add appropriate templates 
(don't know if its SP3 feature). If you right-click on 
Administrative templates, there will be an option to Add/Remove 
templates. The required policy is part of system.adm


I don't know what policy I am using. I suppose whatever is installed 
on the system?


Oh, NOW I see what I was doing wrong. Now I have added system.adm 
policy and I see printers. Here goes!


Well I enabled a couple of things.

I disabled: Disallow install of printers using ker-mode drv
I enabled: Allow print spooler to accept clients
Web-based printing

I could not figure out what really to do.

This has not made any change to the system behaviour :(

I am off now until Saturday night. I will look for help again then!





I tried connecting to the server printer share from a local login, and
that got past the policy block and was asking for the printer 
driver. So

it is REALLY something tied into how a domain user acts on this system.






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Re: [Samba] Revisit - Re: Default Hidden Disk Shares

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/21/2010 12:42 AM, Jeremy Allison wrote:

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:29:41PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
   

I want admin to be able to access other user data to clean up any
messes they have. Kind of standard here at home with my kids getting
into challenges and asking for help. Or they did an assignment from
the wrong login, and now I have to move it around. More my wife
tends to just use my login and access her files. Well I will have to
skin this cat another way. Most likely set up some symlinks and ID
groups.
 

Look into the admin user parameter. Anyone coming in as that
user is mapped to root, with full priviliges. Just create an
admin user, set admin user = admin in the [global] section
and don't tell anyone else the password :-).


oow That is valuable. And risky. I think I will try it!

And I ASSuME that admin user = admin1, admin2

works as well? Did a quick google search and did not find anything on 
this (sometimes I have to fix things from my wife's login; she is in the 
middle of something and needs a bit of help...).



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[Samba] INCLUDEs in smb.conf

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Do I need a separate INCLUDE in each section, or can I have one INCLUDE 
at the end and just include needed sections?


Way 1:

smb.conf:

[Global]

...

INCLUDE smb-global.conf

[netlogon]

..

smb-global.conf:

   sambaPwdCanChange=1


Way 2:

smb.conf:

[Global]

...

[netlogon]

..

INCLUDE smb-custom.conf

smb-custom.conf:

[Global]

   sambaPwdCanChange=1

[TestShare]

.



Which way???


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Re: [Samba] INCLUDEs in smb.conf

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 10/21/2010 11:49 AM, Jefferson Diego Gomes wrote:

As I know, includes on Samba are like includes at Apache:


Now that actually makes sense!  I have little experience editing 
includes in Apache, but lots in Asterisk.


You don't need to separete in sections, because each include has it 
own section.


Got it.  Thanks.


I don't know if you Way 1 will work, but Way 2 will.
I always do something like:

[global]

INCLUDE share.adm.conf
INCLUDE share.people.conf


share.people.conf:
[Person1]

[Person2]



share.adm.conf:
[Share 1]

[Share 2]


(Sorry my poor enghish)

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[Samba] Application will not run for domain user

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have set up a Samba PDC using the Amahi.org distro, so there might be 
some things they still have a bit off...


Anyway, I have a somewhat old program, Quicken 2000.

On my old Win2K workstation on an old NT server, it ran just fine for 
domain users.  The software is installed on the workstation, and the 
data is on the server.


But on my new XP Pro workstation on my new Samba PDC, it only runs for a 
local user, and that user is a super user (I have not created a regular 
user on the system yet).  It will not run for the domain user.


I reinstalled the software while logged on as the domain user.  I got 
prompted to supply a user with admin privs for the install, which I 
did.  I still cannot run the program from the domain user.



Where do I look to fix this?


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Re: [Samba] Application will not run for domain user

2010-10-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/21/2010 11:11 PM, Gaiseric Vandal wrote:

Two possible options:


1) It may not be a local vs domain user issue. It may be an administrator vs
non administrator issus.
Can you add the domain user to the local administrators group?
   


OK. That was it. Though I added the user into the Power User group. Kind 
of hokey that was needed. Good thing there are only a couple computers 
here on my network.


And I had to reboot twice. After the change, I still could not run the 
program, so on a hunch I reboot. Then XP could not access the user 
profile information and created a temp profile. A second reboot got 
everything working.



2) It may be the file permissions-  samba doesn't always translate the unix
acl's to windows properly. If you can run quicken with the data on the XP
machines local hard drive than this is the case.   What is the Samba PDC OS
and File system?   I found Solaris 10 ZFS was especially tricky.  If you
right click on a network directory or file, and check the permissions do you
get an warning about permissions being incorrectly ordered?  Can you check
effective permissions to see if a deny group is overriding an allow
user?
   


I knew this was not the case. I was able to access the file(s) just fine 
from the local user by browsing and mounting the share.


I got this set. Now we will see what is the next issue to pop up...


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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:48 PM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: [Samba] Application will not run for domain user

I have set up a Samba PDC using the Amahi.org distro, so there might be
some things they still have a bit off...

Anyway, I have a somewhat old program, Quicken 2000.

On my old Win2K workstation on an old NT server, it ran just fine for
domain users.  The software is installed on the workstation, and the
data is on the server.

But on my new XP Pro workstation on my new Samba PDC, it only runs for a
local user, and that user is a super user (I have not created a regular
user on the system yet).  It will not run for the domain user.

I reinstalled the software while logged on as the domain user.  I got
prompted to supply a user with admin privs for the install, which I
did.  I still cannot run the program from the domain user.


Where do I look to fix this?


   

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[Samba] Revisit - Re: Default Hidden Disk Shares

2010-10-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Not to flog a dead horse

I am building a replacement for my old NT server at home (been running 
undisturbed since '95) using the amahi.org distro, and turning on the 
advanced settings for PDC support.  I have done a few things with the 
Amahi developers and have made mods to the DNS and DHCP setup script to 
suit my needs.  Now for tackling the Samba stuff before configuring all 
new workstations as well (upgrading from W2K wrkstations to XP pro woo!).


I am not so interested in C$ to access the whole drive, but to access 
all the user shares.  So I was thinking about something like:


[C$]
comment = CC
path = /home
writeable = yes
browseable = no
valid users = admin1, admin2
write list = admin1, admin2
create mask = 0775
force create mode = 0664
directory mask = 0775
force directory mode = 0775

[D$]
comment = DD
path = /var/hda/files
writeable = yes
browseable = no
valid users = admin1, admin2
write list = admin1, admin2
create mask = 0775
force create mode = 0664
directory mask = 0775
force directory mode = 0775

Of course, the Amahi front end won't let me name a share with a $ in it 
(or at least ending in one), and I am having to edit the smb.conf file 
to get this setup.


Understanding that only Windows clients 'hide' $ shares, and given my 
goal of being able to view all shares from a couple shares, does this 
seem the way to go?


On 07/05/2010 02:04 PM, Robert LeBlanc wrote:

The Windows client will hide any share that ends with a '$' whether or not
it is an administrator share, it's doesn't know or care. In this case there
is no difference between hidden and normal because to Windows they are both
hidden. Give it a try sometime.

If you hit the server with a Mac client, it shows all the shares (at least
it used to, I haven't tried in a long time), even the c$, d$, etc. I think
the Linux SMB clients also do the same. So to rely on 'server' to 'hide'
these shares, is a very false sense of security. It's the actual client that
does the hiding from normal users.

Robert LeBlanc
Life Sciences  Undergraduate Education Computer Support
Brigham Young University


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Atkinson, Robertratkin...@tbs-ltd.co.ukwrote:

   

  Robert, the discussion was around the hidden ‘$’ shares, not normal ones.



Rob.



*From:* Robert LeBlanc [mailto:rob...@leblancnet.us]
*Sent:* 02 July 2010 19:15
*To:* Atkinson, Robert
*Cc:* Jeremy Allison; samba@lists.samba.org

*Subject:* Re: [Samba] Default Hidden Disk Shares



On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Atkinson, Robertratkin...@tbs-ltd.co.uk
wrote:

Interesting to see you say it's dangerous. The way the Windows version
works
is that you have to be part of the Administrator group to be able to see
them, which I would have thought secure enough?



This is not true, the share is advertised to anyone who asks. The Windows
client only hides shares that end with a '$'. By default Windows gives
access only to administrators (by default), but they are by no means hidden.


Robert LeBlanc
Life Sciences  Undergraduate Education Computer Support
Brigham Young University


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[Samba] auto mount of home share

2010-10-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have searched this list and googled for examples, but have not found 
the answer to this question:


I would have thought that all the lines in the smb.conf was setting up 
an auto mount of the home share, and I did not have to put it in the 
logon.bat script.  I have:



[global]



domain master = yes
local master = yes
domain logons = yes
logon path = \\%L\profiles\%U
logon drive = q:
logon home = \\hda\%u


[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = no
writeable = yes
browseable = yes
create mask = 0640
directory mask = 0750

I would have thought that user john would have a share of q: of 
\\hda\john but this is not happening.  I am seeing this share if I 
browse the server.


Or do I HAVE to have an entry in the logon.bat of:

net use q: \\hda\%u /persistent:no

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Re: [Samba] Revisit - Re: Default Hidden Disk Shares

2010-10-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 10/20/2010 03:37 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Not to flog a dead horse

I am building a replacement for my old NT server at home (been running 
undisturbed since '95) using the amahi.org distro, and turning on the 
advanced settings for PDC support.  I have done a few things with the 
Amahi developers and have made mods to the DNS and DHCP setup script 
to suit my needs.  Now for tackling the Samba stuff before configuring 
all new workstations as well (upgrading from W2K wrkstations to XP pro 
woo!).


I am not so interested in C$ to access the whole drive, but to access 
all the user shares.  So I was thinking about something like:


[C$]
comment = CC
path = /home
writeable = yes
browseable = no
valid users = admin1, admin2
write list = admin1, admin2
create mask = 0775
force create mode = 0664
directory mask = 0775
force directory mode = 0775



Well, perhaps the masks are wrong because I see all of /home, but admin1 
only can access /home/admin1


All the other directories gets access denied.

So what would be the proper masks?


[D$]
comment = DD
path = /var/hda/files
writeable = yes
browseable = no
valid users = admin1, admin2
write list = admin1, admin2
create mask = 0775
force create mode = 0664
directory mask = 0775
force directory mode = 0775

Of course, the Amahi front end won't let me name a share with a $ in 
it (or at least ending in one), and I am having to edit the smb.conf 
file to get this setup.


Understanding that only Windows clients 'hide' $ shares, and given my 
goal of being able to view all shares from a couple shares, does this 
seem the way to go?


On 07/05/2010 02:04 PM, Robert LeBlanc wrote:
The Windows client will hide any share that ends with a '$' whether 
or not
it is an administrator share, it's doesn't know or care. In this case 
there
is no difference between hidden and normal because to Windows they 
are both

hidden. Give it a try sometime.

If you hit the server with a Mac client, it shows all the shares (at 
least
it used to, I haven't tried in a long time), even the c$, d$, etc. I 
think

the Linux SMB clients also do the same. So to rely on 'server' to 'hide'
these shares, is a very false sense of security. It's the actual 
client that

does the hiding from normal users.

Robert LeBlanc
Life Sciences  Undergraduate Education Computer Support
Brigham Young University


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Atkinson, 
Robertratkin...@tbs-ltd.co.ukwrote:


  Robert, the discussion was around the hidden ‘$’ shares, not 
normal ones.




Rob.



*From:* Robert LeBlanc [mailto:rob...@leblancnet.us]
*Sent:* 02 July 2010 19:15
*To:* Atkinson, Robert
*Cc:* Jeremy Allison; samba@lists.samba.org

*Subject:* Re: [Samba] Default Hidden Disk Shares



On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Atkinson, 
Robertratkin...@tbs-ltd.co.uk

wrote:

Interesting to see you say it's dangerous. The way the Windows version
works
is that you have to be part of the Administrator group to be able to 
see

them, which I would have thought secure enough?



This is not true, the share is advertised to anyone who asks. The 
Windows

client only hides shares that end with a '$'. By default Windows gives
access only to administrators (by default), but they are by no means 
hidden.



Robert LeBlanc
Life Sciences  Undergraduate Education Computer Support
Brigham Young University


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Re: [Samba] Revisit - Re: Default Hidden Disk Shares

2010-10-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/20/2010 09:35 PM, Jeremy Allison wrote:

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 09:31:39PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
   


On 10/20/2010 03:37 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 

Not to flog a dead horse

I am building a replacement for my old NT server at home (been
running undisturbed since '95) using the amahi.org distro, and
turning on the advanced settings for PDC support.  I have done a
few things with the Amahi developers and have made mods to the DNS
and DHCP setup script to suit my needs.  Now for tackling the
Samba stuff before configuring all new workstations as well
(upgrading from W2K wrkstations to XP pro woo!).

I am not so interested in C$ to access the whole drive, but to
access all the user shares.  So I was thinking about something
like:

[C$]
comment = CC
path = /home
writeable = yes
browseable = no
valid users = admin1, admin2
write list = admin1, admin2
create mask = 0775
force create mode = 0664
directory mask = 0775
force directory mode = 0775

   

Well, perhaps the masks are wrong because I see all of /home, but
admin1 only can access /home/admin1

All the other directories gets access denied.

So what would be the proper masks?
 

The masks aren't what is denying you access, they specify
the permissions created files/directories get.

Remember Samba is looking at the UNIX permissions on the
disk. admin1 probably only has access to /home/admin1 and
no access to any other directory under /home. That's why
you see what you see.
   


oh well...


I'm not clear on what exactly you're trying to do here ?


I want admin to be able to access other user data to clean up any messes 
they have. Kind of standard here at home with my kids getting into 
challenges and asking for help. Or they did an assignment from the wrong 
login, and now I have to move it around. More my wife tends to just use 
my login and access her files. Well I will have to skin this cat another 
way. Most likely set up some symlinks and ID groups.



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Re: [Samba] auto mount of home share

2010-10-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 10/20/2010 11:01 PM, Chris Smith wrote:

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Robert Moskowitzr...@htt-consult.com  wrote:
   

I would have thought that all the lines in the smb.conf was setting up an
auto mount of the home share, and I did not have to put it in the logon.bat
script.  I have:
 

The systems have to be domain members and the users must be domain
users and logging on to the domain (not the local system).


I added the system to the domain successfully and now I get the log onto 
domain option.  I used a user I created on the server, is there 
something special to define a domain user?  And yes I logged onto the 
domain, creating a domain user on the system (user.domain).



You may also need the [netlogon] share (although the logon script does not
need to explicilty create map the home drive).


The logon.bat is executing.  I am getting all the shares from the bat 
file.  I see the netlogon share and can mount it and open the logon.bat 
file.



Also your logon home looks possibly suspect, I have logon home = \\%N\%U 
(the
default) on several servers (for years now) and they all work (for
hundreds of users). Where are you getting your documentation? When in
doubt don't fuck with the defaults (man smb.conf) unless you know what
you're doing and have a very good reason.


This is what the developers of the Amahi.org distro have set up.  hda is 
the Netbios name of the server.  Does the case (%u instead of %U) 
matter?  There is a bit to changing this if needed; I have to edit the 
script that builds smb.conf.


Well I just made the change and now it is working.  Now to find out if 
it is %N (how can I find out its value?) or %U.



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Re: [Samba] auto mount of home share

2010-10-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 10/20/2010 11:01 PM, Chris Smith wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Robert 
Moskowitzr...@htt-consult.com wrote:
I would have thought that all the lines in the smb.conf was setting 
up an
auto mount of the home share, and I did not have to put it in the 
logon.bat

script. I have:

The systems have to be domain members and the users must be domain
users and logging on to the domain (not the local system).


I added the system to the domain successfully and now I get the log 
onto domain option. I used a user I created on the server, is there 
something special to define a domain user? And yes I logged onto the 
domain, creating a domain user on the system (user.domain).


You may also need the [netlogon] share (although the logon script 
does not

need to explicilty create map the home drive).


The logon.bat is executing. I am getting all the shares from the bat 
file. I see the netlogon share and can mount it and open the logon.bat 
file.


Also your logon home looks possibly suspect, I have logon home = 
\\%N\%U (the

default) on several servers (for years now) and they all work (for
hundreds of users). Where are you getting your documentation? When in
doubt don't fuck with the defaults (man smb.conf) unless you know what
you're doing and have a very good reason.


This is what the developers of the Amahi.org distro have set up. hda 
is the Netbios name of the server. Does the case (%u instead of %U) 
matter? There is a bit to changing this if needed; I have to edit the 
script that builds smb.conf.


Well I just made the change and now it is working. Now to find out if 
it is %N (how can I find out its value?) or %U.


Testing shows it is the %u instead of %U that is the error. Seems to be 
case sensitive. \\hda or \\%N both work.


So I will file a bug report to the Amahi developers. Thanks for pointing 
me in the right direction.



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[Samba] FWD: Letters Only LM Hash Database

2004-11-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/02/1523212tid=93
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Petermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clark writes 
Disk storage has increased tremendously in the past 5 years and the 
blatant insecurities in the antiquated LM hashing technique have not gone 
away; though functionality has been added to disable LM hashes, this is not 
set by default. With some help from Elcomsoft, simple flat files have been 
created that hold 
http://www.beginningtoseethelight.org/ntsecurity/index.php#0FEB224E21024B8Cevery 
combination of LM hash for letters only passwords. Jesko has coded a server 
application which allows you to access this database. Simply telnet to: 
beginningtoseethelight.no-ip.org on port 2501 and paste in a LM hash. So 
how does this differ from Rainbow tables? Well this will return a password 
100% of the time, using minimal processor power, in approximately less than 
0.2 seconds.

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[Samba] Migarting an NT domain to a Fedora Samba 3 domain

2004-07-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have an NT domain, and I DON'T want to go to AD, and I DO want to move 
off NT4 to Linux for my servers.

I have set up a Fedora Core 2 server in my domain.  The domain recognizes 
it and it the other servers (oddly enough I am having some, but not 
complete printer problems.  Well thta is a separate question)

My plan is:
Run Fedora as a BDC.
Take down my NT PDC (I have an NT BDC btw)
Upgrade the Fedora to PDC
Bring up another Fedora server as a BDC
But the graphic tool in Fedora does not support these activities.  I am not 
a UN*X person.  Never found the time. I am a protocols developer.  So I 
need some graphic tools and wish to stay away fromVI and .conf files.

Pointers to instructions and tools are greatly appreciated!
Oh, I also want to move my Fedora PDC to the same IP address and even 
hostname as my NT PDC.  Will save a lot of external problems.

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