[scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
I'm a Firefox guy myself. I keep IE7 on my machine, but it's got dust on it. I DID buy something from Microsoft that I love, though. Windows Live OneCare. It does my virus, spyware and firewall protection, defrags my drives, backs up my drives, and a couple of other things. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008 - Vin Diesel
I think Diesel is trying to establish himself, and as you said, maybe some ego got in the way. Yet, he did that family-friendly flick where he was agent having to babysit a family, so surely that was just to please the crowd and make some dough (a la Eddie Murphy). A Man Apart was pretty good, but not spectacular. I sometimes think Diesel is from the Kevin Costner/Wesley Snipes school: they aim high, trying to make big, epic, soaring pictures (Waterworld, The Postman), or high-octane action flicks (Murder at 1600, others) that don't always do as well as hoped. So people then see the movies and the actors as just average. While the actors are aiming high and big, the audience seems them as just average. Some actors seem to have built in likability/visability/studio support, and get attention that frankly may be out of proportion to their abilities (Schwarzenegger, Will Smith) but they make it work. Arnold had his weightlifting background, and the good sense to team up with Camero n (Terminator) and DeLaurentis (Conan) to help get him going. Smith had the Fresh Prince background, and a couple of crowd-pleasing hits (Bad Boys, Men in Black) to get his visibility. Is it that Diesel and Snipes aren't as good/likeable as Arnold and Smith, did they make worse choices, rush their careers too fast, or haven't been as lucky? One thing I will say about Diesel: The Chronicles of Riddick is one of the closest disappointments i've seen in recent years. That trailers promised a soaring epic, a scifi film to stand on the same level as LOTR and in the scifi world, we haven't had that in ages. And will i love The Chronicles of Riddick, everytime I see it I realize it falls short of the glory Diesel intended. So many great moments, such great background and setup, but spoiled by a beginning and middle that's too much cliched scifi. By the time they really try to bring in the mythos and otherworldliness of the Necromongers, it's too late. I think that's the film that could have put him on the road to Arnold territory, but it just missed the mark. Too bad, 'cause I really wanted to see a third film too, the second was so damn good in spots... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I liked both Pitch black and the sequel. After Pitch Black and Boiler Room, I thought he was really going places. I guess his career sorta fizzled Mike Street wrote: yeah Vin is doing an animated Hannibal for BET and looks like he might be in another Fast and Furious flick. But i think that franchise is pretty much dead. So looks like he is trying to rebuild his career with Hannibal as an epic movie. But I think he was at his best in Boiler Room. That was the only movie I ever really liked him in. On Dec 29, 2007 12:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding Vin. I think there was room for both. i think him, his ego and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it. Mike Street wrote: I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career. There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to Narina after the Silver Chair. On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly. In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended) Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen. Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite. Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur era. Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up some of the adults who read the book. The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes. The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect. Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front. The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids, that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word of mouth gets out. 10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo. The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it going big big big. Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the Technonerdati in the door. Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia movie, and
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
i'm still skeptical. Roger Ebert says your mouth hangs open--at how preposterous the movie is. Question: just because the stars are over 30, does that mean the movie is then for the 30+ audience? Can't youngsters in their 20s still go? That was my question to Tracey earlier: when I was in my early 20's I didn't stay away from a good action flick simply because the stars were in their 30s or 40s. -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw National Treasure 2 last night and it was good actually. I'm pretty much into anything that involves puzzles and decoding something. I play a lot of turn based card games, and I enter just about any online contest that involves puzzle solving. My favorite online puzzle contest was the Da Vinic Code. It was really well done. But NT2 was wayyy better then the first one. And it was cross generational so not all movie are youth obsessed. This one was totally for the 30+ audience. The young people in this movie only played a minor role. You can't make Nick Cage look younger then 35 esp. with the hair plugs he's got going on. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
It's a family movie. So to me it was for everyone from ages 5 to 65. It's a Disney flick to they made it with the broadest appeal possible. On Dec 30, 2007 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm still skeptical. Roger Ebert says your mouth hangs open--at how preposterous the movie is. Question: just because the stars are over 30, does that mean the movie is then for the 30+ audience? Can't youngsters in their 20s still go? That was my question to Tracey earlier: when I was in my early 20's I didn't stay away from a good action flick simply because the stars were in their 30s or 40s. -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw National Treasure 2 last night and it was good actually. I'm pretty much into anything that involves puzzles and decoding something. I play a lot of turn based card games, and I enter just about any online contest that involves puzzle solving. My favorite online puzzle contest was the Da Vinic Code. It was really well done. But NT2 was wayyy better then the first one. And it was cross generational so not all movie are youth obsessed. This one was totally for the 30+ audience. The young people in this movie only played a minor role. You can't make Nick Cage look younger then 35 esp. with the hair plugs he's got going on. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss.
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two. I'm the guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and storing data about who I've met or talked with that night. At home, I need that quiet time with a book or my laptop. Or at a coffee shop for a bit on the way home from work. My blog and commentary persona are nothing like my meatspace personality. I'm not shy. I just prefer to observe and think. I hate small talk and refuse to speak just for the sake of speaking. When I do speak, it is because I have something real to add to the conversation. I abhor hoopla and I suck at entertaining. I'm not the guy screaming his head off at sporting events or concerts. If you see me at a concert, it'll likely be a more intimate club like the Birchmere - listening to a band, sipping a margarita - just enjoying the music. And I hate being asked if something is wrong. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ Tracey said: My husband has a split reclusive/ social personality as well. So, we encourage each other to get alone time. This was especially important when we were working with the business full-time. You are so
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
This makes me very angry. My first foray into the Net was with AOL, which I loved for a while. Once I tired of it, I got MindSpring, an Atlanta-based company which later merged with Earthlink. Mindspring's browser of choice was Netscape Navigator. I loved everything about Netscape: the way you could easily copy/paste its list of saved URLs to another computer...the way you could do the same with its Address book...the interface that let you quickly see what plugins the browser had and what function they fulfilled...and especially, a little feature (whose name escapes me) that allowed you to put the same URL in several different folders without having to do a copy/paste. This was a great device for me, as some links fit in more than one category. Black Ameria Web, for example, goes in both my Black Culture and Audio Sites folders. Best of all, Netscape was powerful, easy to use, well laid out, and not a major drain on computer resources. Then Bill Gates decided to give away Internet Explorer for free. I can't stand people who can't compete fairly, and this was a major example of Gates just cheating far as i'm concerned. Worse, like so many of microsoft's moves, Gates actually pushed *inferiour* software on is in the form of IE. Most of Microsoft's major products and functionality over the years have been inferiour to the competition, but money, power, dirty tactics, and market penetrability have won the day. AOL destroyed Netscape, however, and i quit using it after that. I don't use Firefox for the simple reason that my main computer is a company laptop and i don't want anyone geting on me about it. I will use Firefox on the next home machine I build. Saddest of all is that Netscape's demise will be largely unheralded and unremarked. Most people the world around will not remember there was a better alternative to IE, won't remember yet another example of how Gates squashed creativity and innovation for greed, and won't realize just how free our choices are in this world. Very, very sad news... -- Original message -- From: Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a Firefox guy myself. I keep IE7 on my machine, but it's got dust on it. I DID buy something from Microsoft that I love, though. Windows Live OneCare. It does my virus, spyware and firewall protection, defrags my drives, backs up my drives, and a couple of other things. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn/Charleston Heston
You know, i've always liked Heston. Yeah, he's a conservative, and his NRA rhetoric got on my nerves. But he is one of those old-school actors who always said what he felt. He didn't dissemble or demure for fear of damaging his career and rep: he told it like it was. Heston did a wide range of films, being fortunate enough to work back in the days when Biblical epics were considered as valid as cop dramas. And he crossed into scifi at a time when some major stars shied away from it as too silly for them. Heston also spoke out against segregation and racism when he was younger, back when many stars refused to get involved. He marched with Dr. King. (see wiki entry below). Now later in life he became more conservative, attacked political correctness, and was against affirmative action. I think like a lot of white guys, the reality of having to *work* for a *long time* to ensure equality was more and scarier than he thought when he was marching and speaking out. (Lot of white folk have fatigue with our issues; i guess they think 30 years of half-ass equality more than makes up for going on 400 years of oppression). Despite his swing to the right, though, I still like Heston. I guess he seems like one of those old school real men whose attitudes i often abhor, but whose courage and forthrightness i can respect. If only their powers could be used for good and all... From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston In his earlier years, Heston was a liberal Democrat, campaigning for Presidential candidates Adlai Stevenson in 1956 and John F. Kennedy in 1960. A civil rights activist, he accompanied Martin Luther King Jr. during the civil rights march held in Washington, D.C. in 1963, even going so far as to wear a sign that read All Men Are Created Equal. Heston later claimed it a point of pride that he helped in the civil rights cause long before Hollywood found it fashionable, as he often says in his speeches. Heston had also planned to campaign for Lyndon Johnson, but was unable to do so when filming on Major Dundee went over schedule. In 1968, following the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, Heston appeared on The Joey Bishop Show and, along with fellow actors Gregory Peck, Kirk Douglas and James Stewart, called for public support for President Johnson's Gun Control Act of 1968. He later claimed he was young and foolish.[citation needed] In 1969, Heston was asked by some Dem ocrats to run for the California State Senate, a move that would have likely had bipartisan support in the state.[citation needed] He declined because he wanted to continue acting. He was also an opponent of McCarthyism and racial segregation, which he saw as only helping the cause of Communism worldwide. He opposed the Vietnam War and considered Richard Nixon a disaster for America. He turned down John Wayne's offer of a role in The Alamo, because the film was a right-wing allegory for the Cold War. By the 1980s, however, Heston had began to support more conservative positions on such issues as affirmative action and gun rights. Heston changed his registration from Democrat to Republican. He has campaigned for Republican candidates and Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sad :( Martin wrote: Yes, Tracey, he has. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks there I'm able to talk and joke with (none in my immediate group, unfortunately). Having gone through this before with my dad's death, and during a period when I was unemployed for a few months, I literally have been forcing myself to get up and out: going to movies, bookstores, going out to eat, hitting the gym. Christmas was the worst, because this is the first Christmas in a decade where I couldn't go back to Texas to be with family (had to work). it was sad and lonely being here in Atlanta, but again I forced myself to smile when I wanted to cry, to laugh when I wanted to yell. Having this group to talk to about stuff really helps too-more than you'd believe. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want to inflict it on them. Reece Jennings wrote: I hear you! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more... Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm a party voyeur... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's taken me to find three people like myself. Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling different from others? I revel in being that way...now...LOL! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow! Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the question you had to anticipate... why? Martin wrote: Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest movie secrets. I love Howard the Duck. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Keith I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :( Martin wrote: But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu! KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one
Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008
you think Dwayne Johnson--isn't that his given name? I hear he no longer wants to go by The Rock--killed Diesel's career? I didn't think so. Johnson has done well, but not gangbusters by any means. The Rundown was a good movie that established he has screen presence. I enjoyed it, but it didn't do major bucks. Walking Tall remake was panned by critics and didn't do all that well. His most recent movies where he was working with troubled youth as a football coach and the other one with little kids, did well, but again, not on the level of Will Smith or something. I don't know many people who flock to the theatre just because Johnson's the lead. I tend to think it's not that another bi-racial action star came out that hurt Diesel, I think it's just been his choice of films. He did a couple of films that weren't meant for big box office (one where he played a real life mob guy testifying against his cohorts was well reviewed, but little seen), and he hasn't been churning them out with great frequency. -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career. There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to Narina after the Silver Chair. On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin wrote: One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly. In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended) Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen. Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite. Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur era. Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up some of the adults who read the book. The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes. The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect. Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front. The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids, that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word of mouth gets out. 10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo. The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it going big big big. Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the Technonerdati in the door. Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia movie, and was pleasantly surprised. Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup. Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis... Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well, but I won't be there. Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too. The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good. The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you. Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA? Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the trailer. Just me and my weirdness. Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES. The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough. Jurassic Park IV- see above. The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO... Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY? The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following month. Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long. They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based on this blurb, I'll go to see it. Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised. The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more? Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right? Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the Aliens from Aliens vs Predator. Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the hardcore fans are sick of the franchise. Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green. Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn
LMNAO!!! Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100% Total Scumbag Now, now, B-B. You really must learn how to express your TRUE feelings! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I think CH got his attitudes from riding war chariots in Ben-Hur. He probably thought, Screw this wheel-chewing stuff! Give me a Shotgun!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bosco Bosco Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:01 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn Rent Bowling For Columbine and you might have a different perspective on 100% Total Scumbag that goes by the name Charleton Heston. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Sad :( Martin wrote: Yes, Tracey, he has. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com com I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix. All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is much more developed then the previous versions. If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go nuts. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Yeah - I've been typed. INTJ all the way. The Wife has been typed ENFP and ENTJ at different times. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two. I'm the guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and storing data about who I've met or talked with that night. At home, I need that quiet time with a book or my laptop. Or at a coffee shop for a bit on the way home from work. My blog and commentary persona are nothing like my meatspace personality. I'm not shy. I just prefer to observe and think. I hate small talk and refuse to speak just for the sake of speaking. When I do speak, it is because I have something real to add to the conversation. I abhor hoopla and I suck at entertaining. I'm not the guy screaming his head off at sporting events or concerts. If you see me at a concert, it'll likely be a more intimate club like the Birchmere - listening to a band, sipping a margarita - just enjoying the music. And I hate being asked if something is wrong. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn/Charleston Heston
That explains a lot. I remember thinking he was liberal while growing up. No body was hiring us in Hollywood, yet he always did, with meaty, meaningful roles. So when he became a right wing nut, I was shocked. I really tried to hate him, but after years of being a fan, it was difficult. I just ended up pretty much ambivalent. Thanks for posting this, at least now I have aa better understanding about the source of my ambivilance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, i've always liked Heston. Yeah, he's a conservative, and his NRA rhetoric got on my nerves. But he is one of those old-school actors who always said what he felt. He didn't dissemble or demure for fear of damaging his career and rep: he told it like it was. Heston did a wide range of films, being fortunate enough to work back in the days when Biblical epics were considered as valid as cop dramas. And he crossed into scifi at a time when some major stars shied away from it as too silly for them. Heston also spoke out against segregation and racism when he was younger, back when many stars refused to get involved. He marched with Dr. King. (see wiki entry below). Now later in life he became more conservative, attacked political correctness, and was against affirmative action. I think like a lot of white guys, the reality of having to *work* for a *long time* to ensure equality was more and scarier than he thought when he was marching and speaking out. (Lot of white folk have fatigue with our issues; i guess they think 30 years of half-ass equality more than makes up for going on 400 years of oppression). Despite his swing to the right, though, I still like Heston. I guess he seems like one of those old school real men whose attitudes i often abhor, but whose courage and forthrightness i can respect. If only their powers could be used for good and all... From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston In his earlier years, Heston was a liberal Democrat, campaigning for Presidential candidates Adlai Stevenson in 1956 and John F. Kennedy in 1960. A civil rights activist, he accompanied Martin Luther King Jr. during the civil rights march held in Washington, D.C. in 1963, even going so far as to wear a sign that read All Men Are Created Equal. Heston later claimed it a point of pride that he helped in the civil rights cause long before Hollywood found it fashionable, as he often says in his speeches. Heston had also planned to campaign for Lyndon Johnson, but was unable to do so when filming on Major Dundee went over schedule. In 1968, following the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, Heston appeared on The Joey Bishop Show and, along with fellow actors Gregory Peck, Kirk Douglas and James Stewart, called for public support for President Johnson's Gun Control Act of 1968. He later claimed he was young and foolish.[citation needed] In 1969, Heston was asked by so me Dem ocrats to run for the California State Senate, a move that would have likely had bipartisan support in the state.[citation needed] He declined because he wanted to continue acting. He was also an opponent of McCarthyism and racial segregation, which he saw as only helping the cause of Communism worldwide. He opposed the Vietnam War and considered Richard Nixon a disaster for America. He turned down John Wayne's offer of a role in The Alamo, because the film was a right-wing allegory for the Cold War. By the 1980s, however, Heston had began to support more conservative positions on such issues as affirmative action and gun rights. Heston changed his registration from Democrat to Republican. He has campaigned for Republican candidates and Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sad :( Martin wrote: Yes, Tracey, he has. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
You know, after a decade of working at home, I really enjoyed my stint at Merrill Lynch and sometimes think about going in to work a Microsoft once I'm well. I loved the interaction with the people and the laid back atmosphere of the IT department. I still miss that and them. It was a fun place before O'Neal's influence could be felt. It puts you on on a social auto-pilot that you hinted at below that is difficult to maintain when you are self-employed, and are not required to go out. Right now, I live in the suburbs because my husband wanted to be able to reach me if I had an emergency and was incapacitated. Also its cheaper out here and we had to live off one salary during me illness. However, I've been trying to explain to my Mom that why we want to move to an active part of the city is because it is easier to roll out of bed and do things. In the past, if I had easy access to activities, I stayed more social. If it required a lot of effort to get through, eventually I would stop the activity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks there I'm able to talk and joke with (none in my immediate group, unfortunately). Having gone through this before with my dad's death, and during a period when I was unemployed for a few months, I literally have been forcing myself to get up and out: going to movies, bookstores, going out to eat, hitting the gym. Christmas was the worst, because this is the first Christmas in a decade where I couldn't go back to Texas to be with family (had to work). it was sad and lonely being here in Atlanta, but again I forced myself to smile when I wanted to cry, to laugh when I wanted to yell. Having this group to talk to about stuff really helps too-more than you'd believe. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want to inflict it on them. Reece Jennings wrote: I hear you! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more... Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm a party voyeur... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's taken me to find three people like myself. Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling different from others? I revel in being that way...now...LOL! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
I'm with you, Rave... ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't cry for Mr. Diesel. After a shallow 2007, he appears to have a full slate of films scheduled and announced for 2008 2009 including Hannibal the Conquerer. Plot: Vin Diesel stars as the Carthaginian general who led an elephant-riding battalion across the Alps to attack Rome in the 3rd Century B.C. But, I'll believe that one when I see it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career. There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to Narina after the Silver Chair. On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly. In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended) Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen. Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite. Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet- voyeur era. Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up some of the adults who read the book. The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes. The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect. Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front. The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids, that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word of mouth gets out. 10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo. The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it going big big big. Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the Technonerdati in the door. Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia movie, and was pleasantly surprised. Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup. Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis... Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well, but I won't be there. Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too. The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good. The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you. Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu- WHA? Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the trailer. Just me and my weirdness. Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES. The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough. Jurassic Park IV- see above. The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO... Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY? The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following month. Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long. They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based on this blurb, I'll go to see it. Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised. The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more? Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right? Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the Aliens from Aliens vs Predator. Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the hardcore fans are sick of the franchise. Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green. Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are afraid to grow old. The Hobbit- another trick question, right? Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless Marvel brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this year), not much of a chance. I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a wireless PC card... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of Speculative Fiction Movies Coming Out on 2008. Which ones are you looking forward to? Which ones do you think will hit and which ones do you think will flop? One Missed Call U.S. Opening
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn
I don't know...I do know he's dead now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix. All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is much more developed then the previous versions. If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go nuts. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn
Not necessarily, According to the IMDB. He's still alive: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm032/bio and Wikipedia as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's dead? I had know idea Astromancer wrote: I don't know...I do know he's dead now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix. All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is much more developed then the previous versions. If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go nuts. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn
I stand corrected. He's not dead...yet. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know...I do know he's dead now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix. All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is much more developed then the previous versions. If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go nuts. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
Mine, too. I wonder again why no one in H'Wood has picked up on the fact that what fans want is literate work. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn
That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been updated. Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at least I understand why I have liked him and why it is so hard to let go. The man was a card carrying,outspoken liberal for years. It also shed like on another star I've admired who was all the way to the right... Jimmy Stewart. It seems the same thing happened to him. It still saddens me that Heston got so ugly in his old age Bosco Bosco wrote: Not necessarily, According to the IMDB. He's still alive: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm032/bio and Wikipedia as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's dead? I had know idea Astromancer wrote: I don't know...I do know he's dead now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix. All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is much more developed then the previous versions. If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go nuts. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
And I just noticed that you tossed in Microsoft-in-the-head... where's that danged vomiting smiley when you need it? Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
i feel you. When i take days off i rarely spend all day at the house. I will work in the yard for a while, maybe do some chores. But after a few hours i get lonely and need to be around people. So I always go to the gym and take classes, then meet a friend for lunch, or my wife. Or, i'll just go to the bookstore or the park to be around people. although i love to write, i don't often write in solitude. I like to go to a coffee shop or the park and write. that's one reason i don't like watching movies at home only. i really miss interacting with people at the theatre. I think some of this is because i was often very lonely as a child. but a lot of it is due to my personality. I really am a strong extrovert. As for where you live, i pay a hell of a lot more mortgage for living IP (Inside the Perimeter, the loop around Atlanta) than I'd pay if I lived in the suburbs. The main issue was quality of life: I like the diversity closer in, the proximity to malls and theatres and downtown (though I'm ten miles away from the city), and the better choices in roads. In the 'burbs, there's usually only one or two roads that one can take to get to the city, and they often get clogged and backed up. Living closer in, one has more choices of taking surface, residential streets to get around. My wife doesn't like driving on the freeway much, and we can get all the way to downtown Atlanta without ever getting on the freeway. if we lived in the 'burbs, she'd have to get on congested roads every day. I'd lie to live truly down closer to the city, but a house the size of the one i have now (2300 square feet), in the same condition (1981) would cost half a million on the low end -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, after a decade of working at home, I really enjoyed my stint at Merrill Lynch and sometimes think about going in to work a Microsoft once I'm well. I loved the interaction with the people and the laid back atmosphere of the IT department. I still miss that and them. It was a fun place before O'Neal's influence could be felt. It puts you on on a social auto-pilot that you hinted at below that is difficult to maintain when you are self-employed, and are not required to go out. Right now, I live in the suburbs because my husband wanted to be able to reach me if I had an emergency and was incapacitated. Also its cheaper out here and we had to live off one salary during me illness. However, I've been trying to explain to my Mom that why we want to move to an active part of the city is because it is easier to roll out of bed and do things. In the past, if I had easy access to activities, I stayed more social. If it required a lot of effort to get through, eventually I would stop the activity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks there I'm able to talk and joke with (none in my immediate group, unfortunately). Having gone through this before with my dad's death, and during a period when I was unemployed for a few months, I literally have been forcing myself to get up and out: going to movies, bookstores, going out to eat, hitting the gym. Christmas was the worst, because this is the first Christmas in a decade where I couldn't go back to Texas to be with family (had to work). it was sad and lonely being here in Atlanta, but again I forced myself to smile when I wanted to cry, to laugh when I wanted to yell. Having this group to talk to about stuff really helps too-more than you'd believe. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want to inflict it on them. Reece Jennings wrote: I hear you! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more... Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm a party voyeur... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
I'm INTJ as well. James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - I've been typed. INTJ all the way. The Wife has been typed ENFP and ENTJ at different times. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two. I'm the guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and storing data about who I've met or talked with that night. At home, I need that quiet time with a book or my laptop. Or at a coffee shop for a bit on the way home from work. My blog and commentary persona are nothing like my meatspace personality. I'm not shy. I just prefer to observe and think. I hate small talk and refuse to speak just for the sake of speaking. When I do speak, it is because I have something real to add to the conversation. I abhor hoopla and I suck at entertaining. I'm not the guy screaming his head off at sporting events or concerts. If you see me at a concert, it'll likely be a more intimate club like the Birchmere - listening to a band, sipping a margarita - just enjoying the music. And I hate being asked if something is wrong. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
Microsoft-in-the-head...must bathe self in lye... Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a Firefox guy myself. I keep IE7 on my machine, but it's got dust on it. I DID buy something from Microsoft that I love, though. Windows Live OneCare. It does my virus, spyware and firewall protection, defrags my drives, backs up my drives, and a couple of other things. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Of late, I don't even need the sight impetus. Just got this week's TV guide, and this Saturday's offering, Beyond Loch Ness posits that Nessie's done some commuting, and has left a few kids around. Martin (off to see what the History Channel has in the way of competition for the time slot...) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Keith, I go to malls for the same reason you do airports, for the people-watching. But I don't interact with anyone, even the people I go there with. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two. I'm the guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and storing data about who I've met or talked with that night. At home, I need that quiet time with a book or my laptop. Or at a coffee shop for a bit on the way home from work. My blog and commentary persona are nothing like my meatspace personality. I'm not shy. I just prefer to observe and think. I hate small talk and refuse to speak just for the sake of speaking. When I do speak, it is because I have something real to add to the conversation. I abhor hoopla and I suck at entertaining. I'm not the guy screaming his head off at sporting events or concerts. If you see me at a concert, it'll likely be a more intimate club like the Birchmere - listening to a band, sipping a margarita - just enjoying the music. And I hate being asked if something is wrong. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ Tracey said: My husband has a split
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
I do not think fans want literate work anymoreat least not the target they are after. Have you ever heard comments, like the story is too hard to follow or too complicated, or there was too much talking, not enough action? Martin wrote: Mine, too. I wonder again why no one in H'Wood has picked up on the fact that what fans want is literate work. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
ooo! I feel the chills. Astromancer wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film.
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
One of the things that appeals to me about Seattle is that there are lots of independent coffee houses where the self-employed (writers included) seem to work. Out in the suburbs there are all Starbucks--its not the same. Anyway, when we move I'm going to try working at a few of the coffee houses sometimes to break out the monotony I understand your circumstances. Seattle is one of the few places where mortgages are going up. $600,000 for a small townhouse is the going rate. I'm going to rent for a while and seek out fixer upper, investment rental properties in areas that are up and coming, but not where i would not to live. I used to rent out flip houses with my dad after we rehabbed them when he was alive. Long ago my husband used to be a contractor. We are in for some serious times with the real estate market and banking, and I do not want to be a victim of that. Once things calm down, or if we find a fixer upper in the right areas, then we would buy. unfortunately, with employment growing here, the Lake being so deep, traveling on the highway is a nightmare that is only going to get worse. So being close to town is no longer an advantage. While there all people from all over the world living out here, the religious right seem to rule out side with the liberal leading in town. People are friendly in town and reserved outside. Strange area. Like my neighbors though [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i feel you. When i take days off i rarely spend all day at the house. I will work in the yard for a while, maybe do some chores. But after a few hours i get lonely and need to be around people. So I always go to the gym and take classes, then meet a friend for lunch, or my wife. Or, i'll just go to the bookstore or the park to be around people. although i love to write, i don't often write in solitude. I like to go to a coffee shop or the park and write. that's one reason i don't like watching movies at home only. i really miss interacting with people at the theatre. I think some of this is because i was often very lonely as a child. but a lot of it is due to my personality. I really am a strong extrovert. As for where you live, i pay a hell of a lot more mortgage for living IP (Inside the Perimeter, the loop around Atlanta) than I'd pay if I lived in the suburbs. The main issue was quality of life: I like the diversity closer in, the proximity to malls and theatres and downtown (though I'm ten miles away from the city), and the better choices in roads. In the 'burbs, there's usually only one or two roads that one can take to get to the city, and they often get clogged and backed up. Living closer in, one has more choices of taking surface, residential streets to get around. My wife doesn't like driving on the freeway much, and we can get all the way to downtown Atlanta without ever getting on the freeway. if we lived in the 'burbs, she'd have to get on congested roads every day. I'd lie to live truly down closer to the city, but a house the size of the one i have now (2300 square feet), in the same condition (1981) would cost half a million on the low end -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, after a decade of working at home, I really enjoyed my stint at Merrill Lynch and sometimes think about going in to work a Microsoft once I'm well. I loved the interaction with the people and the laid back atmosphere of the IT department. I still miss that and them. It was a fun place before O'Neal's influence could be felt. It puts you on on a social auto-pilot that you hinted at below that is difficult to maintain when you are self-employed, and are not required to go out. Right now, I live in the suburbs because my husband wanted to be able to reach me if I had an emergency and was incapacitated. Also its cheaper out here and we had to live off one salary during me illness. However, I've been trying to explain to my Mom that why we want to move to an active part of the city is because it is easier to roll out of bed and do things. In the past, if I had easy access to activities, I stayed more social. If it required a lot of effort to get through, eventually I would stop the activity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks there I'm able to talk and joke with (none in my immediate group, unfortunately). Having gone through this before with my dad's death, and during a period when I was unemployed for a few months, I literally have been forcing myself to get up and out: going to movies, bookstores, going out to eat, hitting the gym. Christmas was the worst, because this is the first Christmas in a decade where I couldn't go back to Texas to be with family (had to work). it was sad and lonely being here in Atlanta, but again I forced myself to smile
Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
While I'm no fan of comcrap, send it to me as well. Please. Tracey Reece, I'm going to send you something I sent Astro a few days back about the chairman of Comcrap that just might change your mind... Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
agreed. especially when the remake is inferiour (Planet of the Apes). I just had a nightmare thought: what if someone tries to remake Blade Runner some day??? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
Please, never use the phrase Blade Runner and the word remake together in a sentence again. Someone might get an idea (shudders at thought) __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ Keith said: agreed. especially when the remake is inferiour (Planet of the Apes). I just had a nightmare thought: what if someone tries to remake Blade Runner some day???
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
because, unfortunately, illiterate work still pulls people into the theatres. I was just talking to some friends about how much i disliked Transformers from a plot and acting point. Great fX, but really horrid lines that actually had me wincing in the theatre. I want to see the picture again, but i honestly havea hard time thinking about sitting through the bad acting again. Yet, it made lots and lots of money. Same for sh** like Bad Boys 2, which I can see is one of the worst movies i've seen in the last decade. And all those crappy gore-filled horror films that flame out at the theatre--but not before taking in twenty mill or so the first weekend. For every Batman Begins or The Incredibles or 3:10 to Yuma, Hollywood finds enough suckers to support half-baked crap. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine, too. I wonder again why no one in H'Wood has picked up on the fact that what fans want is literate work. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
a good friend of mine has been working with Linux for the last three years and puts it on all laptops and desktops he has. My goal for this winter is to build two computers. One i will keep as a Windows machine simply for ease of storing existing files. Probably keep it as XP, 'casue i don't care for Vista. The real goal, though, is to build a Linux box. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used Netscape for about a month, walked away from it because I didn't ahve the common sense that Deity gave little green apples (i.e. knowing that Microsoft-in-the-head was jsut that). Now, I used Firefox, and will be bouncing out of XP as soon as I can afford to buy another OS. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here ravenadal wrote: I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK --- Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
indeed. Remember a year or so ago when there was talk of a US version of the British miniseries Ultraviolet? I cringed, just knowing what a blonde-obssessed, youth-loving, plot-averse US studio would do with that material. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not think fans want literate work anymoreat least not the target they are after. Have you ever heard comments, like the story is too hard to follow or too complicated, or there was too much talking, not enough action? Martin wrote: Mine, too. I wonder again why no one in H'Wood has picked up on the fact that what fans want is literate work. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
I would have guessed that for both you and James, from your writings and opinions. Interestingly, most corporate leaders, and just about all US presidents, have similar profiles. I think they're ISTJ or INTJ often. People with my profile--ENFP and similar--tend to be the ones trying to lead revolutions or social changes from outside the system. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm INTJ as well. James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - I've been typed. INTJ all the way. The Wife has been typed ENFP and ENTJ at different times. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two. I'm the guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and storing data about who I've met or talked with that night. At home, I need that quiet time with a book or my laptop. Or at a coffee shop for a bit on the way home from work. My blog and commentary persona are nothing like my meatspace personality. I'm not shy. I just prefer to observe and think. I hate small talk and refuse to speak just for the sake of speaking. When I do speak, it is because I have something real to add to the conversation. I abhor hoopla and I suck at entertaining. I'm not the guy screaming his head off at sporting events or concerts. If you see me at a concert, it'll likely be a more
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn
the problem comes in when good hearted people with good intentions do horrible things--which i think is probably the greater problem in humanity than that caused by truly evil men doing evil things. I really don't believe the likes of Heston or Stewart hate people; at least, not in the way a Klansman might hate me. They honestly think their worldview is better for everyone--me included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us with well-intentioned force that's the problem. By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme conservatives. Don't know if you knew this, but the lady who played Miss Jane on The Beverly Hillbillies --Nancy Kulp--ran for Congress as a Democrat from Pennsylvania. Without warning her, Ebsen taped a radio ad for her Republican opponent. The ad ended with the line, I love you Nancy, but you're too liberal for me. Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in the Reagan years, and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was gay) probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp. I had a hard time thinking of Uncle Jed/Barnaby Miller the same way after that. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been updated. Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at least I understand why I have liked him and why it is so hard to let go. The man was a card carrying,outspoken liberal for years. It also shed like on another star I've admired who was all the way to the right... Jimmy Stewart. It seems the same thing happened to him. It still saddens me that Heston got so ugly in his old age Bosco Bosco wrote: Not necessarily, According to the IMDB. He's still alive: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm032/bio and Wikipedia as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's dead? I had know idea Astromancer wrote: I don't know...I do know he's dead now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix. All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is much more developed then the previous versions. If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go nuts. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
Give it time. Ridley Scott doesn't own the rights, does he? If not, he certainly couldn't stop it if someone tried... -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please, never use the phrase Blade Runner and the word remake together in a sentence again. Someone might get an idea (shudders at thought) __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ Keith said: agreed. especially when the remake is inferiour (Planet of the Apes). I just had a nightmare thought: what if someone tries to remake Blade Runner some day??? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
LOLLOLLOLLOL!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:07 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator Microsoft-in-the-head...must bathe self in lye... Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I'm a Firefox guy myself. I keep IE7 on my machine, but it's got dust on it. I DID buy something from Microsoft that I love, though. Windows Live OneCare. It does my virus, spyware and firewall protection, defrags my drives, backs up my drives, and a couple of other things. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
Sure! Looking for it! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator Reece, I'm going to send you something I sent Astro a few days back about the chairman of Comcrap that just might change your mind... Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
...and I still hate Comcrap... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reece, I'm going to send you something I sent Astro a few days back about the chairman of Comcrap that just might change your mind... Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
Actually, I was a UNIX guy back in the late '70s - early 80s when I was with ATT Informations Systems in Bala Cynwyd, PA. (Tracey knows where that is!). We had a room full of IBM-PC/ATs, and what ATT called their 3B2 computers. I remember the beginning of email, and 2-letter commands. UNIX Shell, and how UNIX morphed into LINUX. I did a lot of programming in C-Language and some Assembler language on PCs. Never had a MAC except at McDonalds! So I still feel a little loyalty to the might IBM and Microsoft. HOO-Rah! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:06 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator And I just noticed that you tossed in Microsoft-in-the-head... where's that danged vomiting smiley when you need it? Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the
RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
I choose to love a couple of them! Microsoft and Comcast! LOVE-LOVE-LOVE-LOVE!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator Maurice. We gotta reprogram you. Microsoft leads the way with big egotistical companies Martin wrote: And I just noticed that you tossed in Microsoft-in-the-head... where's that danged vomiting smiley when you need it? Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast,
[scifinoir2] Sweeney Todd
So I just got back in from watching Sweeney Todd with my girlfriend and my kids. They all liked it pretty well. I was not too impressed. It looked good. It was typically Burton dark. The costumes were really nice and there are some truly funny moments throughout the film. Overall, it's just a bore. It's way way way too long and there's not enough plot or character to carry the length of the film. Additionally there are no likeable, at least for me, characters. So while there are some good bits, I just couldn't find enough good things to bring me into the story. Frankly, if you take out the dark parts and the gore, and there is a lot of blood, it's just another generic two dimensional musical with an underdeveloped plot. I guess I'm also bummed that I don't go to that many movies at the theater and I feel like I wasted my money on this one. Bosco Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
I would be surprised if someone already pitched it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed. especially when the remake is inferiour (Planet of the Apes). I just had a nightmare thought: what if someone tries to remake Blade Runner some day??? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
Programmers do not like Vista as Microsoft, so why is the public supposed to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a good friend of mine has been working with Linux for the last three years and puts it on all laptops and desktops he has. My goal for this winter is to build two computers. One i will keep as a Windows machine simply for ease of storing existing files. Probably keep it as XP, 'casue i don't care for Vista. The real goal, though, is to build a Linux box. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used Netscape for about a month, walked away from it because I didn't ahve the common sense that Deity gave little green apples (i.e. knowing that Microsoft-in-the-head was jsut that). Now, I used Firefox, and will be bouncing out of XP as soon as I can afford to buy another OS. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here ravenadal wrote: I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK --- Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn
I was thinking about Uncle Jed today. When I heard that, I was crushed. Same thing with him, try as I might, I can not hate him [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem comes in when good hearted people with good intentions do horrible things--which i think is probably the greater problem in humanity than that caused by truly evil men doing evil things. I really don't believe the likes of Heston or Stewart hate people; at least, not in the way a Klansman might hate me. They honestly think their worldview is better for everyone--me included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us with well-intentioned force that's the problem. By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme conservatives. Don't know if you knew this, but the lady who played Miss Jane on The Beverly Hillbillies --Nancy Kulp--ran for Congress as a Democrat from Pennsylvania. Without warning her, Ebsen taped a radio ad for her Republican opponent. The ad ended with the line, I love you Nancy, but you're too liberal for me. Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in the Reagan years, and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was gay) probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp. I had a hard time thinking of Uncle Jed/Barnaby Miller the same way after that. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been updated. Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at least I understand why I have liked him and why it is so hard to let go. The man was a card carrying,outspoken liberal for years. It also shed like on another star I've admired who was all the way to the right... Jimmy Stewart. It seems the same thing happened to him. It still saddens me that Heston got so ugly in his old age Bosco Bosco wrote: Not necessarily, According to the IMDB. He's still alive: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm032/bio and Wikipedia as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's dead? I had know idea Astromancer wrote: I don't know...I do know he's dead now... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's? Astromancer wrote: NRA... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this into real life. From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles... -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled my world. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix. All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is much more developed then the previous versions. If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go nuts. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A
RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
I just took an abbreviated Briggs-Meyers: Your Type is ISTJ Introverted Sensing ThinkingJudging Strength of the preferences % 78 12 38 56 Career choices: Computer programmer, law enforcement, Management... Wow! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:57 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Keith, I go to malls for the same reason you do airports, for the people-watching. But I don't interact with anyone, even the people I go there with. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two. I'm the guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and storing data about who I've met or talked with that night. At home, I need that quiet time with a book or my laptop. Or at a coffee shop for a bit on the way home from work. My blog and commentary persona are nothing like my meatspace personality. I'm not shy. I just prefer to observe and think. I hate small talk and refuse to speak just for the sake of speaking. When I do speak, it is because I
Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
How much are they paying you? Reece Jennings wrote: I choose to love a couple of them! Microsoft and Comcast! LOVE-LOVE-LOVE-LOVE!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator Maurice. We gotta reprogram you. Microsoft leads the way with big egotistical companies Martin wrote: And I just noticed that you tossed in Microsoft-in-the-head... where's that danged vomiting smiley when you need it? Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big companies are so egotistic. They don't ask what we like. They just give us what they want to sell. Screw them. Except for Microsoft and Comcast! LOLLOL!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator I have always hated Microsoft Explorer (I currently use Firefox) but I was big Netscape fan until AOL bought it and did what it did to Time Warner. ~(no)rave! http://www.foxnews. http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html com/wires/2007Dec28/0,4670,NetscapeRIP,00.html AOL Pulls Plug on Netscape Web Browser Friday, December 28, 2007 By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer NEW YORK - Netscape Navigator, the world's first commercial Web browser and the launch pad of the Internet boom, will be pulled off life support Feb. 1 after a 13-year run. Its current caretakers, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, decided to kill further development and technical support to focus on growing the company as an advertising business. Netscape's usage dwindled with Microsoft Corp.'s entry into the browser business, and Netscape all but faded away following the birth of its open-source cousin, Firefox. While internal groups within AOL have invested a great deal of time and energy in attempting to revive Netscape Navigator, these efforts have not been successful in gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Netscape Director Tom Drapeau wrote in a blog entry Friday. In recent years, Netscape has been little more than a repackaged version of the more popular Firefox, which commands about 10 percent of the Web browser market, with almost all of the rest going to Internet Explorer. People will still be able to download and use the Netscape browser indefinitely, but AOL will stop releasing security and other updates on Feb. 1. Drapeau recommended that the small pool of Netscape users download Firefox instead. A separate Netscape Web portal, which has had several incarnations in recent years, will continue to operate. The World Wide Web was but a few years old when in April 1993 a team at the University of Illinois' National Center for Supercomputing Applications released Mosaic, the first Web browser to integrate images and sound with words. Before Mosaic, access to the Internet and the Web was largely limited to text, with any graphics displayed in separate windows. Marc Andreessen and many of his university colleagues soon left to form a company tasked with commercializing the browser. The first version of Netscape came out in late 1994. Netscape fed the gold-rush atmosphere with a landmark initial public offering of stock in August 1995. Netscape's stock carried a then-steep IPO price of $28 per share, a price that doubled on opening day to give the startup a $2 billion market value even though it had only $20 million in sales. But Netscape's success also drew the attention of Microsoft, which quickly won market share by giving away its Internet Explorer browser for free with its flagship Windows operating system. The bundling prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit and later a settlement with Microsoft. Netscape eventually dropped fees for the software, but it was too late. Undone by IE, Netscape sold itself to AOL in a $10 billion deal completed in early 1999. Netscape spawned an open-source project called Mozilla, in which developers from around the world freely contribute to writing and testing the software. Mozilla released its standalone browser, Firefox, and Netscape was never able to regain its former footing. Copyright 2007
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Where do you find the abbreviated test? I took one long, long time ago and do not remember how I scored Reece Jennings wrote: I just took an abbreviated Briggs-Meyers: Your Type is ISTJ IntrovertedSensing ThinkingJudging Strength of the preferences % 78 12 38 56 Career choices: Computer programmer, law enforcement, Management... Wow! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:57 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Keith, I go to malls for the same reason you do airports, for the people-watching. But I don't interact with anyone, even the people I go there with. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two. I'm the guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and storing data about who I've met or talked with that night. At home, I need that quiet time with a book or my laptop. Or at a coffee shop for a bit on the way home from work. My blog
Re: [scifinoir2] Sweeney Todd
Try to catch Juno, which I hear is good, and plan to see tomorrow. It stars up-and-coming Canadian actress Ellen Page (Hard Candy, Kitty in the X-Men) as a young pregnant teen who makes a matter-of-fact decision to give up her child. I hear it's funny, well-written, and well acted. Atonement is also getting rave reviews. I hope to see that on New Year's day. Not surprised about Sweeny Todd. Most critics are raving about it, but it didn't seem like anything that'd hold my attention. -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I just got back in from watching Sweeney Todd with my girlfriend and my kids. They all liked it pretty well. I was not too impressed. It looked good. It was typically Burton dark. The costumes were really nice and there are some truly funny moments throughout the film. Overall, it's just a bore. It's way way way too long and there's not enough plot or character to carry the length of the film. Additionally there are no likeable, at least for me, characters. So while there are some good bits, I just couldn't find enough good things to bring me into the story. Frankly, if you take out the dark parts and the gore, and there is a lot of blood, it's just another generic two dimensional musical with an underdeveloped plot. I guess I'm also bummed that I don't go to that many movies at the theater and I feel like I wasted my money on this one. Bosco __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
Alas yes, even from someone I was sitting with. (smile) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not think fans want literate work anymoreat least not the target they are after. Have you ever heard comments, like the story is too hard to follow or too complicated, or there was too much talking, not enough action?
[scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
I think that PKD's kids keep a tight rein on who makes movies of their father's work. Not that they always make great choices. However, Bladerunner was one that he was alive to see the rushes from and he approved of the movie. I can't see a remake made unless his daughters really see a better script. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed. especially when the remake is inferiour (Planet of the Apes). I just had a nightmare thought: what if someone tries to remake Blade Runner some day??? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Sweeney Todd
Wow! Sorry that you didn't like it. The original musical is around 3 hours long and the characters get a little more leg room, but Burton pretty much captured one stream of the show. (There is a bit more humor in the musical.) Maybe I was in a more blood-thirsty mood. I went back last night. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I just got back in from watching Sweeney Todd with my girlfriend and my kids. They all liked it pretty well. I was not too impressed. It looked good. It was typically Burton dark. The costumes were really nice and there are some truly funny moments throughout the film. Overall, it's just a bore. It's way way way too long and there's not enough plot or character to carry the length of the film. Additionally there are no likeable, at least for me, characters. So while there are some good bits, I just couldn't find enough good things to bring me into the story. Frankly, if you take out the dark parts and the gore, and there is a lot of blood, it's just another generic two dimensional musical with an underdeveloped plot. I guess I'm also bummed that I don't go to that many movies at the theater and I feel like I wasted my money on this one. Bosco Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being
Re: [scifinoir2] Sweeney Todd
I think you have to really see the play before you see the movie to appreciate how good Sweeney Todd really is. I saw the play with Patti Lapone when it was on Broadway and I'm totally in love with the material. And when I heard J. Depp was going to play Sweeney Todd I knew it was going to be a winner. It's hard to pull a musical off on the Silver Screen but to me you just can't faily with Depp and Burton. They have never disappointed me and the Sweeney Todd movie to me was brilliant. I hope it wins Oscars across the board. If you have netflix you can rent the original play with Angelia Lansbery. She is amazing! But the recent staging on Broadway did the play much different. They threw all of the old school victorain costumes and went for a dark almost S and M like mixed with a 70's beatnick feel to it. But what was even better was they all of the actors played their own instruments. So there was no orchestra. The actors where on stage playing all of the music and singing. The staging of the play also was totally brilliant. On Dec 31, 2007 12:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to catch Juno, which I hear is good, and plan to see tomorrow. It stars up-and-coming Canadian actress Ellen Page (Hard Candy, Kitty in the X-Men) as a young pregnant teen who makes a matter-of-fact decision to give up her child. I hear it's funny, well-written, and well acted. Atonement is also getting rave reviews. I hope to see that on New Year's day. Not surprised about Sweeny Todd. Most critics are raving about it, but it didn't seem like anything that'd hold my attention. -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I just got back in from watching Sweeney Todd with my girlfriend and my kids. They all liked it pretty well. I was not too impressed. It looked good. It was typically Burton dark. The costumes were really nice and there are some truly funny moments throughout the film. Overall, it's just a bore. It's way way way too long and there's not enough plot or character to carry the length of the film. Additionally there are no likeable, at least for me, characters. So while there are some good bits, I just couldn't find enough good things to bring me into the story. Frankly, if you take out the dark parts and the gore, and there is a lot of blood, it's just another generic two dimensional musical with an underdeveloped plot. I guess I'm also bummed that I don't go to that many movies at the theater and I feel like I wasted my money on this one. Bosco __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss.
Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator
In a message dated 12/30/07 10:48:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a good friend of mine has been working with Linux for the last three years and puts it on all laptops and desktops he has. My goal for this winter is to build two computers. One i will keep as a Windows machine simply for ease of storing existing files. Probably keep it as XP, 'casue i don't care for Vista. The real goal, though, is to build a Linux box. Actually a friend of mine is seriously thinking about switching to Linux instead of moving over to OS 10.5 because it's more geared to Intel Macs instead of normal PPC macs (like his). He hates the idea that he has to upgrade to a new type of mac that has little-to-no difference performance wise because of an OS change. And after looking at the stats of both of them I agree with him. In my opinion the new mac OS is nothing more than apple embracing the Windows OS at the cost of mac fans. As for Netscape Navigator. It was the first browser I used-and used it for a while before I settle upon Firefox and Safari so it will aways have a fond spot in my heart. But yeah AOL did killed it and Firefox has surpassed it so to let it die a peaceful death. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
similar to the tolkien family, eh? That's actually good to hear. what choices have they made that you didn't think were good? -- Original message -- From: maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that PKD's kids keep a tight rein on who makes movies of their father's work. Not that they always make great choices. However, Bladerunner was one that he was alive to see the rushes from and he approved of the movie. I can't see a remake made unless his daughters really see a better script. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed. especially when the remake is inferiour (Planet of the Apes). I just had a nightmare thought: what if someone tries to remake Blade Runner some day??? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gattaca is one of my favorites. This trend of remakes and adaptations is scary. While I often enjoy some of the final productions, it smacks of a trend of decreasing use of creativity in movie making and TV production. I fear movies created from original scripts may be a thing of the past maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Not a whole lot for me. I want something more involved than comic book heroes. Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake. In fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia. Maybe someday some one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was. The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dark Knight Hancock The Dark Knight Watchmen The Hobbit Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008
In a message dated 12/30/07 11:04:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: indeed. Remember a year or so ago when there was talk of a US version of the British miniseries Ultraviolet? I cringed, just knowing what a blonde-obssessed, youth-loving, plot-averse US studio would do with that material. I remember that too. I think we both are glad it died in development hell. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
so that fits, huh? My ENFP is strong in all areas, though my feeling/thinking was fairly close. I guess that makes sense because, though I'm very emotion-driven, I also have a logical, analytical side that lets me do the math/engineering/IT things i've done in life. Still, the F is stronger, and my makeup is really that of a writer or artist. I could be on the street corner yelling Scripture at passersby, or playing a guitar and harmonica, hoping for change! -- Original message -- From: Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just took an abbreviated Briggs-Meyers: Your Type is ISTJ Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging Strength of the preferences % 78 12 38 56 Career choices: Computer programmer, law enforcement, Management... Wow! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:57 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Keith, I go to malls for the same reason you do airports, for the people-watching. But I don't interact with anyone, even the people I go there with. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: ever had a Meyers-Briggs analysis done on you? You sound like an introvert, which is not, as some think, a 'wall flower. Simply means you get a lot of energy internally, that you like to analyze things. Extroverts simply get more energy externally, from other people, but doesn't mean they're always running around with lamp shades on their heads at parties. I'm a strong extrovert: going to the mall on Black Friday gets me pumped and hyper like a kid. I'm never bored in an airport 'cause I almost OD on watching people. I do have difficulty not speaking into silence (you called it talking just to talk). But by the same token, once my batteries are charged, I have to get away from people to think and analyze or write. But then I have to be back among the mading crowd. I've taken Meyers Briggs tests three times. I'm a strong ENFP: Extroverted - Getting psychic/mental/emotional/spiritual energy from others instead of internally (as opposed to Introverted, getting energy from within) Intuitive - making lots of leaps in thought and creativity based on the gut or inspiration (as opposed to Sensers, who need hard facts to fuel the process) Feeling - ruled by emotions and passions, going with what feels right (as opposed to Thinkers, who analyze things and tend to rely on logic more) Perceiving - filter the world based on what I feel and how things should be (right and wrong), wanting to fluidly adjust circumstances to individuals' needs, strongly ruled by a sense of right (as opposed to Judgers, who tend to be more rigid, less focused on right and wrong , but on what's fair for all, tending to want a set of rules that apply as well as possible to the masses, with little emotion to change them. not prone to want to change laws or rules willy-nilly) so of course, being fueled by emotions and passions and feelings, and a cosmic sense of right and wrong, I majored in electrical engineering in college and now work as a network administrator. According to all tests (and my feelings) i should have been a writer, journalist, musician, public relations person--or a minister. Which is why I wrtie more posts than anyone except maybe Martin, why I'm long winded, why I'm always ranting about something being wrong in the universe. :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com The Wife and I are strikingly different. She is a heavy extrovert and prone to being the life of a party. Her skills as a former model, multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc. make it seem effortless. She turns it on like flicking a switch at parties and public events. I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more. In the office, I have to make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar sentiments a few months ago). Through my websites and as a media contact for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly. I've turned down more than I've accepted. I much prefer to let my written words speak for me via my writings. Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and appearances. (sigh) At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a
